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Rof|maoxz

26-04-2006, 08:25 PM

I was on some work attachment here in singapore and i got a employment pass and i am a foreigner. I gave up my PR status a while ago as my dad wanted me to finish my studies first and as i had to work for about 6 months, my company got me a employment pass.

I don't actually understand you. Which country of PR that you gave up?

hi need some advice from lao jiaos out there. just sent my PRC wife-to-be off yesterday after the end of her 1 month stay here so feeling sad and lost. planning to ROM in a few month's time. but i have a problem, she is married though separated from her husband for a long long time so long that her husband has married someone else (though not legalised) and a new baby. is it necessary for her to go through the official divorce in china and produce the document to ROM or she can declare herself single when at ROM? any serious consequences if ROM without divorce? pls advise.

You wanna marry her, then she has to finalise her divorce proceedings before marry to another. You will get fine for bigamy if her past marriage is improperly handled. Please refer to the earlier pages, I think there's some related issues on these.

Btw, I saw you last post in here, is she the same girl?

http://forum.sammyboy.com/showpost.php?p=1361473&postcount=178

solucky0621

26-04-2006, 09:08 PM

Xine

27-04-2006, 10:01 AM

Rof|maoxz

27-04-2006, 10:50 AM

Bro Rofl, ya I wish i can find more productive things for her to do. She's already got a 7 on her IELTS exam which she took for fun and at the same time it gave her a school to go for about 6months. More for meeting new friends...

Not sure what else I can think of to let her do. Care to suggest some?

Appreciate your help!

Cheers!

Most of them took up basic english course, facial & beauty courses, hair-grooming courses. Some even took up chinese literature teaching in some CCs.

johnny88

27-04-2006, 11:24 AM

Thanks brother Rof|maoxz, saw the earlier postings, seems like the divorce papers will take at least 5-6 months to get. somemore her husband may not agree so readily, guess i have to wait patiently. really a torture for us to be apart for so long. sigh.

Bro, seems like we were in the same boat once. I've to wait for quite some time as well. The most important thing is the "户口本" as it will show up that she is married. This will need to be submitted as part of the approval process in Singapore, so you need to ensure she is formally divorce in her country before getting married with her.

Quite easy for your case lah...Since her "ex-hubby" is currently considered as "通婚", it should be an easy case to handle. Employed a PI to take photos as proof and have it submitted to court for divorce if he refuse to divorce. This will be a very good evident used against him for getting a legal divorce from the court. It will only take 3 months (most province) at most even if he refuse.

Hope this will be helpful to you.

Rof|maoxz

27-04-2006, 03:36 PM

Quite easy for your case lah...Since her "ex-hubby" is currently considered as "通婚", it should be an easy case to handle. Employed a PI to take photos as proof and have it submitted to court for divorce if he refuse to divorce. This will be a very good evident used against him for getting a legal divorce from the court. It will only take 3 months (most province) at most even if he refuse.

Employing a china PI is not easy, like singapore. Their asking fee may be a massive amount. Better solution is to engage thru' proper channel.

solucky0621

27-04-2006, 04:43 PM

hi brother johnny 88, thanz for the encouragement. i am sure you know how agonising it is for me especially when you had gone thru it yourself. you just gave me hope, her 户口本 actually is a city one so does not reflect her marital status, i checked with her recently, so maybe there is hope? my problem is more complicated than you can imagine, she has a son and she wants custody of him cos the father is not taking care of him at all, my wife-to-be's mother has been taking care of him since they parted years ago. I have no problem accepting her son but the husband may not give in that easily. Heaven pls help!!!

Rof|maoxz

27-04-2006, 04:47 PM

I have no problem accepting her son but the husband may not give in that easily. Heaven pls help!!!

Their son is his negotiating tools for something. If this goes on and drag further, it does you no good. :cool:

solucky0621

27-04-2006, 05:20 PM

she cares a lot for her, i know therefore never persuade her to give up. understand how she feel, her son will go astray if custody goes to a father that does not care for him at all.

solucky0621

27-04-2006, 05:21 PM

she cares a lot for her son, i know therefore never persuade her to give up. understand how she feel, her son will go astray if custody goes to a father that does not care for him at all.

-Potato-

27-04-2006, 07:50 PM

Hi all,

i am Malaysian Citizen,also a Singapore Permanent Residence.And my gf is Thai citizen.
1.if want to ROM,only ROM at one country and then notify the other 2 country?
2.if ROM at Sg,first is check at MOM,personally go there with my gf?and the result will known how long?

currently just these 2 question,when have will ask again..thanks all..:)

Rof|maoxz

27-04-2006, 08:28 PM

Hi all,

I am Malaysian Citizen, also a Singapore Permanent Residence. And my gf is Thai citizen.
1. If want to ROM, only ROM at one country and then notify the other 2 country?
2. If ROM at Sg, first is check at MOM,personally go there with my gf? and the result will known how long?

currently just these 2 question, when have will ask again.. thanks all.. :)

You just choose your country of your choice to get married, preferably in Thailand, [If you wish to live with her], malaysia [If she's going over to live with you] or in Singapore [The place you may find your advancement there] There's no requirement for you to notify each and every country of your martial status.

If your gerfrd is not an ex/work permit holder in singapore, then no need to go MOM. You can proceed to register your marriage in here provided there's sufficient validity for her to stay till the ROM ceremony. :)

shengge

27-04-2006, 08:35 PM

Employing a china PI is not easy, like singapore. Their asking fee may be a massive amount. Better solution is to engage thru' proper channel.

Bro Raflmaoxz,
I have been following this thread all the time. Just to share a little info.
I think in China, PI is still not recognise so as their evidence.
I remember saw this report on TV, wife engaged PI, to trace his husband. She confronted the husband with the intimate photos. Later, husband file for divorce, claiming the wife invaded his privacy.

Cheers!
Shengge

-Potato-

27-04-2006, 09:32 PM

Bro Raflmaoxz,
thanks for the reply,,most probaly at early stage with live at malaysia and singapore.and here some question again..
if i marry her in thailand,that mean i have to get a copy of statement from either singapore police or malaysia police to state that i am not a criminal right?(coz i ever read that need to get statement from police)\

thanks

Rof|maoxz

28-04-2006, 08:27 AM

Bro Raflmaoxz,
I have been following this thread all the time. Just to share a little info.
I think in China, PI is still not recognise so as their evidence.
I remember saw this report on TV, wife engaged PI, to trace his husband. She confronted the husband with the intimate photos. Later, husband file for divorce, claiming the wife invaded his privacy.

Cheers!
Shengge

You are right, their judicial system still quite conservative. Especially the men there are domineering lot.

Bro Raflmaoxz,
thanks for the reply,,most probaly at early stage with live at malaysia and singapore.and here some question again..
if i marry her in thailand,that mean i have to get a copy of statement from either singapore police or malaysia police to state that i am not a criminal right? (coz i ever read that need to get statement from police)

Thanks

If you are still working in Singapore, you can obtain one from cantonment police HQ. I think that's depend what passport or origin you are holding right now. If you are still holding the malaysian passport, get the statement from the Malaysia PF.

johnny88

28-04-2006, 10:51 AM

You are right, their judicial system still quite conservative. Especially the men there are domineering lot.

If you are still working in Singapore, you can obtain one from cantonment police HQ. I think that's depend what passport or origin you are holding right now. If you are still holding the malaysian passport, get the statement from the Malaysia PF.

Things have changed quite a bit in China recently and they are now giving more protection to women especially in larger cities. PI would cost you about 5000 RMB for two to three days work (only photos). Alternatively, go and consult a lawyer in China and they usually charge about 3-4K RMB and they will do all the work and tell u how to go about getting a divorce. A separation for more than a year will usually be easy to get a divorce legally. They do not need to arrange for paper work to get separation like in Sillypore. Just need to provide enough evidences will do. Even though "户口本" not showing her true marital status will also result in future problem if her ex-hubby file for a complain when he found out about your marriage. She will be jailed for 3 years in China and you might also be implicated.

Xine

28-04-2006, 07:32 PM

Rof|maoxz

29-04-2006, 11:24 AM

Bro ROFLmaozzzzz

I agree teaching Chinese literature in CC sounds good. Since she taught English before coming here maybe can get her to try. Any idea where to find such info? like where do i start? Sounds not very resourceful.. but i'm lost.

Thanks for the great suggestion bro.

Cheers!

For CCs, you can go to their office reception to ask for application. For schools, you need to apply thru' MOE, Successful applicants who are Non-Singapore Citizens / Non-Singapore Permanent Residents (PR) may be offered employment on contract terms. And they are offered contract terms.

Successful applicants will be awarded an initial teaching contract period of 2 to 3 year.

JaViEr84

16-05-2006, 11:57 PM

SingViet

17-05-2006, 06:00 AM

hi bros i had a question t ask about marrying a foreigner. I had known my gf(vietnamese) for 3 yrs met her thru her aunt match made. my gf had study in singapore before.now she is coming back to study again for nitec f&b plyus a uk diploma of f&b. Should i let her apply employment pass later apply pr or jus let her go baclk after studies then i bring her back to marry and since she had been to singapore to study will there b any problems?i am an IT support officer earning $1800 a month. any bros got any advice 4 mi appreciate! :)

If she is coming back to study, then a Student Pass will be the most suitable. Employment pass are for professionals or degree holders who earns more than $2500 a month. There will not be any problem for you to marry her after she has completed her studies. You can either choose to marry in Singapore or in Vietnam. But my advise is to ROM in Singapore. :D

JaViEr84

18-05-2006, 05:43 AM

singviet bro i call mom b4 they told mi employment pass is for diploma $1800 S pass degree $2500..ayway i tot of letting her study till she go nitec nursing then go poly or go study o levels apply poly...i noe it will cost but for mi is worth it..::p anyway we dun intend to register @ vietynam we intend o go ROM vietnam register slowly then say but holding a small celebration i s a must.. over here i would like to host a big celebratrion hehe:D singviet bro your wife is a vietnamese? i still got alot of queries bout the procedures of applying my gf to bcome pr if we choose to marry. hope singviet bro can guide mi along.. appreciate singviet bro reply to my post thank you..

SingViet

18-05-2006, 08:44 AM

singviet bro i call mom b4 they told mi employment pass is for diploma $1800 S pass degree $2500..ayway i tot of letting her study till she go nitec nursing then go poly or go study o levels apply poly...i noe it will cost but for mi is worth it
I think u got a bit confused. S Pass are for Diploma holders whose pay is between $1800 and $2500 while Employment Pass is for Degree holders or professionals whose pay is over $2500.
anyway we dun intend to register @ vietynam we intend o go ROM vietnam register slowly then say but holding a small celebration i s a must.. over here i would like to host a big celebratrion hehe
ROM in Singapore is surely a better choice. Spend less and much faster. After ROM, just bring the marriage certificate back to Vietnam,
(1) translate to Vietnamese,
(2) let Singapore Consultate General certify
(3) Bring to Ministry of Foreign Affairs Vietnam to certify
(4) Bring the certified copied back to her province
singviet bro your wife is a vietnamese? i still got alot of queries bout the procedures of applying my gf to bcome pr if we choose to marry.
yes, my wife is vietnamese and also Singapore PR for the past 1 1/2 yrs. Like any other government, if you want your foreigner wife to become PR, you have to work hard on your pay :)
hope singviet bro can guide mi along.. appreciate singviet bro reply to my post thank you..
Will try my best to assist you.

Rof|maoxz

19-05-2006, 06:18 PM

singviet bro i call mom b4 they told mi employment pass is for diploma $1800 S pass degree $2500....

Yes, MOM is refering S pass type of EP to you. It replaces the old Q2 Pass category. You S pass is assessed on a points system. [Btw your first post is talking about you holding the pass, not your gerfrd right, your paragraph is making me confused.] When you attain a certain range of points, den you can ask your company to apply PR for you.

Maybe you can roughly point out what nationality status you are holding right now?
If your ger is working ahead to be a F&B elite, it's best for her to study hard and get good results, get sponsored by local F&B company, in a way, she can attain her PR herself, in a few years time.

OceanEleven

19-05-2006, 06:58 PM

JaViEr84

19-05-2006, 07:00 PM

Yes, MOM is refering S pass type of EP to you. It replaces the old Q2 Pass category. You S pass is assessed on a points system. [Btw your first post is talking about you holding the pass, not your gerfrd right, your paragraph is making me confused.] When you attain a certain range of points, den you can ask your company to apply PR for you.

Maybe you can roughly point out what nationality status you are holding right now?
If your ger is working ahead to be a F&B elite, it's best for her to study hard and get good results, get sponsored by local F&B company, in a way, she can attain her PR herself, in a few years time.

Rof|maoxz bro i am a singaporean ngee ann poly diploma holder...
i wan to find a way for my gf to get PR tats the best.

Rof|maoxz

19-05-2006, 07:14 PM

Rof|maoxz bro i am a singaporean ngee ann poly diploma holder...
i wan to find a way for my gf to get PR tats the best.

Den my second paragraph is my suggestion to your ger. :)

Rof|maoxz

19-05-2006, 07:16 PM

I remember photos are not counted as evidence for adultery. It must be caught in the act by the Gong An. Hence there is this woman, followed her husband to the mistress place. Waited half an hour, called the Gong An and report thef in that apartment. When the Gong An barge in, she followed suit and snapped away...... :D

You are right, mate. Communist Gong An, mai pray pray hor. :D

shengge

19-05-2006, 08:00 PM

this woman, followed her husband to the mistress place. Waited half an hour, called the Gong An and report thef in that apartment. When the Gong An barge in, she followed suit and snapped away

In the end did the Gong An send the woman 发票 (invoice)?

qbdp

20-05-2006, 03:44 AM

Bros

I need some words of advices with my current situation.

I am a Singaporean studying fulltime in Australia

My wife is Indonesian and we have an eight month old daughter.

My daughter recently got her Singapore passport and citizenship certificate.

How can I apply Singapore PR for my wife?

Thanks

naemlo

20-05-2006, 05:50 AM

How can I apply Singapore PR for my wife?

Of cos u can apply since u r a S'porean.

johnny88

25-05-2006, 02:27 PM

Does any bros out there knows how long it normally takes to get approval from ICA for LTSVP? I've been waiting for the past 4 weeks and have not hear from them by post. Called them and they said it is still under processing and have to wait at most for another 2 weeks.

Sigh...Taking so long does that means my application is having any hiccups??:(

Rof|maoxz

25-05-2006, 05:41 PM

siamcutey

25-05-2006, 05:48 PM

Of cos u can apply since u r a S'porean.

I do know of 1 thai lady who is SINGLE, has an Employment Pass and got her PR when she started applying for it.:cool:

So I guessed if the foreign girl is a Foreign Talent, then she gets PR very fast and can do it on her own. And then just marry her.

SC

shengge

25-05-2006, 08:08 PM

I am a Singaporean studying fulltime in Australia
My wife is Indonesian and we have an eight month old daughter.
My daughter recently got her Singapore passport and citizenship certificate.
How can I apply Singapore PR for my wife?

Bro,
My friend (Sgp Citizen), wife (Indonesian) and two kids (Sgp Citizen) now living in Jakarta for a nos of years.
He had given up on the PR application for his wife after two times. FYI, he graduated in US, worked in Sgp for 4~5 years before he moved to Indonesia. He was still single then.

I think government is more willing to give PR to those whose spouse is paying income tax and contributing CPF.

All the Best.

Cheers!

Rof|maoxz

31-05-2006, 05:13 PM

Bro,
My friend (Sgp Citizen), wife (Indonesian) and two kids (Sgp Citizen) now living in Jakarta for a nos of years.
He had given up on the PR application for his wife after two times. FYI, he graduated in US, worked in Sgp for 4~5 years before he moved to Indonesia. He was still single then.

I think government is more willing to give PR to those whose spouse is paying income tax and contributing CPF.

All the Best.

Cheers!

Sadly, but true... in fact every countries do practise different types of checks before granting PRs to these 2nd-tier group of people. If they are living well in indonesia. Can still stay put for awhile, if not OZ, NZ is another better options. You may be surprised that after emigrating to there, you might not bother to rtn to sinagpore. ;)

shengge

31-05-2006, 11:23 PM

Sadly, but true... in fact every countries do practise different types of checks before granting PRs to these 2nd-tier group of people. If they are living well in indonesia. Can still stay put for awhile, if not OZ, NZ is another better options. You may be surprised that after emigrating to there, you might not bother to rtn to sinagpore. ;)

Don't think he has plan to move back to Sgp, unless for the children education. In long term, I see loses than gain for the govt not offering the wife PR.

All the while, to reside in Sgp has not been his first choice. The encounter only further discourage him to return. You are right, if there is a better option, I also feel that he may not return.

Cheers!

korb

01-06-2006, 04:15 PM

btw,any bro here had a thai wife.is there a market rate for the 'sin sort' dun know what they call in english.i know abt the 'thorng 9 baht'(999999 baht=41 k sin).but if i were to rom in spore and not in thai.i know that had to depend on the girls parent,but i also need to know a rough guide.thanks :)

JaViEr84

05-06-2006, 10:53 PM

any bros can giv mi some advice on how to bring my gf back from vietnam if i wan to marry her?buy 2 way or one way ticket?plus how mani years do i hav to work to convince the govt?

naemlo

06-06-2006, 09:40 AM

btw,any bro here had a thai wife.is there a market rate for the 'sin sort' dun know what they call in english.i know abt the 'thorng 9 baht'(999999 baht=41 k sin).

That's depend on the family. No market rate. Normally for above average family 1 million is quite common, others some even 10-100k. U mind telling me how rich is your future parents in law??

but if i were to rom in spore and not in thai.i know that had to depend on the girls parent,but i also need to know a rough guide.thanks :)

There is no different in SG or Thailand.

naemlo

06-06-2006, 10:01 AM

any bros can giv mi some advice on how to bring my gf back from vietnam if i wan to marry her?

Normally, bring her to SG via short term visa abt 14 days, ROM and apply for extension of visa then later apply for PR or longer term visa.

buy 2 way or one way ticket?plus how mani years do i hav to work to convince the govt?

Buy 2 ways ticket. No how many yrs, there are a lot of other conditions to grant a PR.

Rof|maoxz

06-06-2006, 11:12 AM

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oooohyah

08-06-2006, 10:03 PM

I know this topic has been discussed before.

I got ROM with my PRC wife in May. I applied for for LTSVP and got the letter stating:

We regret to inform you that your spouse is not eligible for a Long-Term social visit pass. Nevertheless, we are prepared to grant him/her a non-renewable 6-month social visit pass for him/her to look for a job and apply for Work permit or employment pass. While on social visit pass, he/she is not permitted to engage in any form of employment, business, profession or occupation in Singapore.

I called ICA and was told that this is the last chance granted to her for an extended stay in Sillypore. She is told to collect her chop (Pass) and go to MOM to get a letter to look for a job.

I was bemused as well as stressed by it all. :( This is my first ever LTSVP application for her. As far as I know, she was never in trouble with ICA or Police. I know her for a year already.

I am self employed and my pay had been 30k P.A. for the past 3 years. I submitted all the relevant documents to ICA.

Both our age groups are in the early thirties.

Any advice from the experienced bros here on what to do?

Can I appeal? or Go ahead?

PS: If she gets LTSVP, can she go back to PRC to visit her parents?

HSB2000

09-06-2006, 01:43 AM

Hi Bro,

If i intent to send my PRC wife for some english course, any recommendation for low budget courses cos I need to support both my and her parant, thus need to tighten my pocket. Thanks

SingViet

09-06-2006, 08:36 AM

any bros can giv mi some advice on how to bring my gf back from vietnam if i wan to marry her?buy 2 way or one way ticket?plus how mani years do i hav to work to convince the govt?

I do not think that your vietnamese gf can enter singapore with a ONE WAY ticket. And its not the number of years u have worked, its the amount of salary u are drawing that will decide. Normally, ICA will ask for 3 years of income tax returns. If don't have 3 years, 2 years also can. :D

naemlo

09-06-2006, 10:16 AM

I was bemused as well as stressed by it all.

Dun be too stressful, living in SG already very stressful. Relax and slowly work it out..;)

I am self employed and my pay had been 30k P.A. for the past 3 years. I submitted all the relevant documents to ICA.

I have a friend who same as u earn abt 30k annually. He got to know this PRC who is 1 yr older than him. They ROM in SG. His first application for PR went thru smoothly. :cool: So all these depend a lot of other hidden factors which we dunno.

If I'm u, I will try n try again. No harm trying. 1 of my lecturers who told me this, "if u try, there is 50% of success, if u dun try, u r 100% failure".

All the best.

PS: If she gets LTSVP, can she go back to PRC to visit her parents?

Yes.

naemlo

09-06-2006, 10:18 AM

If i intent to send my PRC wife for some english course, any recommendation for low budget courses cos I need to support both my and her parant, thus need to tighten my pocket. Thanks

U can try BMC... dunno whether this suits your budget.

BigGuy

09-06-2006, 10:23 AM

No offence to foreign wives. From the little knowledge but some information, reasons that approvals are not given as not just based on your annual income.

It can be of the following:

1) Education standard
2) Income
3) which company or what business you run

However, one disturbing factor i heard was though the gal is your wife, there are some personal records like crime which you may not know but they do. So you got to check properly.

I mayb wrong but with so many PRC come and go u really never know.

Rof|maoxz

09-06-2006, 10:43 AM

Hi Bro,

If i intent to send my PRC wife for some english course, any recommendation for low budget courses cos I need to support both my and her parant, thus need to tighten my pocket. Thanks

General English Course (Levels I, II & III)

Duration : 32 hours @ 2 sessions per week spread over 8 weeks for each level.
Schedule : 6.30 pm to 8.30 pm
Fees (Per level) : S$430.50 (including 5% GST)

SEAMEO Regional Language Centre
30 Orange Grove Road
Singapore 258352
Tel: 6885 7888

Another one provided by MDIS
http://www.mdis.edu.sg/courses/course_detail/ELC01.asp

Alternatively, you can go to your nearest CC to check up their latest courses offered there. :)

Rof|maoxz

09-06-2006, 10:58 AM

I know this topic has been discussed before.

I got ROM with my PRC wife in May. I applied for for LTSVP and got the letter stating:

We regret to inform you that your spouse is not eligible for a Long-Term social visit pass. Nevertheless, we are prepared to grant him/her a non-renewable 6-month social visit pass for him/her to look for a job and apply for Work permit or employment pass. While on social visit pass, he/she is not permitted to engage in any form of employment, business, profession or occupation in Singapore.

As far as I know, she was never in trouble with ICA or Police. I know her for a year already.

Let us look carefully at your reply from ICA before you make your appeal more justifiable with valid points. For LTSVP, there a few criteria they will look upon before approving each application. And the most important factor they looked into is the validity and authenticity of the applicant's travel documents. If there's doubt in this area, mostly they will either reject, or give a one-time LTSVP for the applicant. Thereafter, the chances of returning back will be granted via case-by-case basic, thru' short term social visit pass of up to 28 days.

Secondly, the local sponsor's employment history ought to be in good shape, with decent pay. You may like to relate more on the ger's past history during her one year stay here. I'm sure there's nothing to hide between married couples. :)

JaViEr84

09-06-2006, 11:58 PM

namelo bro singviet bro after seeing your reply i am very grateful for the advice jus wan to ask if my gal got ite cert n a uk diploma in f&b will this improve her chance of been granted a lont term visa?my job is with a government sector doing IT support.$1600 a month.actually i am quite worry bout not able to get her in with my abilityb if she cant get an s pass

naemlo

10-06-2006, 06:03 AM

if my gal got ite cert n a uk diploma in f&b will this improve her chance of been granted a lont term visa?

Of cos it will improve her chance.

my job is with a government sector doing IT support.$1600 a month.actually i am quite worry bout not able to get her in with my abilityb if she cant get an s pass

I guess u should seriously thinking of earning more b4 u settle down with her. With 1600 a mth n after cpf, u take home slightly more than 1k per mth. :rolleyes:

JaViEr84

10-06-2006, 10:02 PM

Of cos it will improve her chance.

I guess u should seriously thinking of earning more b4 u settle down with her. With 1600 a mth n after cpf, u take home slightly more than 1k per mth. :rolleyes:

naemlo bro r u referring to ica not approving her pr or advising me on my decision to marry her?

naemlo

10-06-2006, 10:56 PM

naemlo bro r u referring to ica not approving her pr or advising me on my decision to marry her?

I'm not against your marriage cos it has nothing to do with me. I'm just thinking with your 1k take home, dun u think u should consider marriage later??? :rolleyes:

SingViet

11-06-2006, 12:23 AM

naemlo bro r u referring to ica not approving her pr or advising me on my decision to marry her?

Bro JaViEr84, correct me if i am wrong, but u are only 22 years old? Why make a lifetime decision when u are so young. I only got married when i was 30 years old. By 30, you will be more mature and the chances of making a wrong choice will be lower ;) I do agree with Bro Namelo, your pay is a bit low to maintain a decent family. The chances of getting LTSVP for your gal is also low. Don't be blinded by love. Think practical and live in reality. :D

Cheers

JaViEr84

11-06-2006, 12:47 AM

thanks for singviet bro n naenlo bro for your advice. Actually i tink i abit kan chiong :p nw asking so much. actually i am asking things tat i am planning to do in 5-6 yrs time.Thnaks for the conncern bros .what made me tink until so far is mayb my mind is not so open i tink . i am thinking if a guy can find a woman whu loves him unconditionally cares onli bout him place him above her family i tink is a guy's bless. i really wish to be with this gal for the rest of my lifetime.My gal got this weird tinking tat watever money she get even if the person say nvm no need to return she still insist on returning.when i send money over ask her to giv some to her parents she stubbornly send back to me say i not earning much save money for our future.haiz some times dun understand watch the posts here all i tot is they place their family in 1st place and others behind.but for her is like i am in the 1st place even her family is so poor she will not wan my money to relief her family.To b honest my parents actually dun approve of us being together.so i am not rushing oso hope in 5 - 6 yrs time i cna change thier minds.:o sing viet bro i need some targets to work towards so as not to waste time ,like how to increase the chances of my gal getting ltsvp wat do i have to work hard on?my pay?income tax?cpf?

Rof|maoxz

11-06-2006, 09:34 AM

so i am not rushing oso hope in 5 - 6 yrs time i cna change thier minds.:o sing viet bro i need some targets to work towards so as not to waste time ,like how to increase the chances of my gal getting ltsvp wat do i have to work hard on? my pay?income tax? cpf?

It is always a good practise to plan ahead. But in cases like yours, people change, situation changes, environment changes and ICA will always review thier immigration policies everynow and then. If you want to have a good headsup, then both of you must also improve academically and financially. Every component like basic pay, income tax, CPF and oneself criminal history are very vital in social passes processing.

JaViEr84

11-06-2006, 11:58 AM

It is always a good practise to plan ahead. But in cases like yours, people change, situation changes, environment changes and ICA will always review thier immigration policies everynow and then. If you want to have a good headsup, then both of you must also improve academically and financially. Every component like basic pay, income tax, CPF and oneself criminal history are very vital in social passes processing.

jus dun understanfd how come those uncle can still marry foreign brides succesfully while i hav to get degree cert pay more than 2000.i dun believe those uncles doing odd job pay is so much..haizz..plus those agencies they find kampong gals let them learn chinese no education oso can come over singapore become prmy gf aunt doesnt even attend their 12 yrs education nor does she learn english here but still can bcome pr.the husband jus a sales engr in a small contractor company $1800 oni..but i tink he documented the pay slip himself change to a higher amount.heard when he marry last time doesnt even had a job had to use his parents as garantor for his wife..haiz life is so unfair.

HSB2000

11-06-2006, 04:54 PM

Hi Rof|maoxz, Thanks for the info : )

naemlo

11-06-2006, 10:55 PM

haiz life is so unfair.

Since when life is fair?? If life is fair, then everyone is the same.

A lot of hidden stuffs we dunno... :cool:

aloha34

12-06-2006, 03:11 AM

but i tink he documented the pay slip himself change to a higher amount.heard when he marry last time doesnt even had a job had to use his parents as garantor for his wife..haiz life is so unfair.
When is your so called 'Last time'?? 10 or 20 yrs ago??? :confused:

Never compare "Last Time" with "Now" lah. Cos Last Time policeman only wear kaki short. :eek:

johnny88

12-06-2006, 11:21 AM

You should be getting your mail by 31 May.

Hi Bro,

Finally, i've received my wife's LTSVP and they only gave 6 months (shld be thankful :rolleyes: ). Anyway, can be renewed when is time is up. I've just completed my PR application last saturday and now got to wait for three months.

I think they are also considering my previous marriage and the alimony that I might have to pay. I don't feel that confident after they issue only 6 months LTSVP. I've found a new job which is 33% higher pay than now and also gave them a copy of my letter of appointment (not sure whether that will help??). I'm actually quite well paid already but they seems to be quite unwilling to give longer term. I reckon they also take your wife's education standard quite seriously as she is only Junior middle school graduated. Hope to hear good news in 3 months time..;)

Rof|maoxz

12-06-2006, 11:54 AM

jus dun understanfd how come those uncle can still marry foreign brides succesfully while i hav to get degree cert pay more than 2000.

Haiz life is so unfair.

It is pointless and futile to compare every other successful cases with those unsuccessful ones. Never ending explanation...

Rof|maoxz

12-06-2006, 12:01 PM

Hi Bro,

Finally, i've received my wife's LTSVP and they only gave 6 months. Anyway, can be renewed when is time is up. I've just completed my PR application last saturday and now got to wait for three months.

I think they are also considering my previous marriage and the alimony that I might have to pay. I don't feel that confident after they issue only 6 months LTSVP. I've found a new job which is 33% higher pay than now and also gave them a copy of my letter of appointment (not sure whether that will help??). I'm actually quite well paid already but they seems to be quite unwilling to give longer term. I reckon they also take your wife's education standard quite seriously as she is only Junior middle school graduated. Hope to hear good news in 3 months time.. ;)

Don't feel despair, you might get 1 yr extension in your next renewal, or even get your PR after 3 mths, who knows.

wonder81

13-06-2006, 10:35 PM

bikee69

14-06-2006, 08:56 AM

She need to apply for the Malaysia Visa.

wonder81

14-06-2006, 09:44 AM

oh..ok then..thanks for the reply bro..

naemlo

14-06-2006, 10:12 AM

so wonder if anyone here can advise or help me..thanks alot!!!

As long as she is holding China passport, she needs a visa.

Rof|maoxz

14-06-2006, 10:47 AM

hi everyone..have a question to ask as my wife is from China..already got her LTSVP and we plan to go JB shopping but i heard that she needs to get a Visa to enter JB even for 1 day... so wonder if anyone here can advise or help me..thanks alot!!!

You definitely need a multiple trip malaysian visa for her in order to travel into malaysia. You can always apply in most major agencies in chinatown area or one beside ICA. One point to note, if travel further into KL for example by bus, train... remember to keep the bus ticket or the train ticket. The malaysian custom may ask to see how she travel from.

korb

20-06-2006, 01:22 AM

That's depend on the family. No market rate. Normally for above average family 1 million is quite common, others some even 10-100k. U mind telling me how rich is your future parents in law??

There is no different in SG or Thailand.

thanks bro naemlo,sorry just touch down back to sillypore few hrs ago.anyway i managed to settle the whole sin sort with my gf sister.actually her mom and dad no asked for sinsort,but her sister insist.btw the arey dealing with gems trading.lucky her sister ask me how much i had save,and how much i can give.so i just take a good figure -$88888bht fart fart fart. and plus a thong 2 baht(1 bht = $10000bht worth gold ) and renting of thai wedding suit for the ceremony abt (3 -5 k bht).the rest like invitation card and ceremony expenses will be help by them.i just going for the tradition ceremony ,opt out the night wedding dinner.so total expenses abt 6 -7 k sin.

naemlo

20-06-2006, 07:15 PM

so total expenses abt 6 -7 k sin.

All the best.... :cool:

singrakthai

20-06-2006, 07:47 PM

so total expenses abt 6 -7 k sin.
sounds reasonable.... congrats! :)

naemlo

20-06-2006, 08:05 PM

sounds reasonable.... congrats! :)

Then me how?? :D

singrakthai

20-06-2006, 08:13 PM

Then me how?? :D
u? u rich man got big fat CPF of cos they ask for more! :D

vmtech

20-06-2006, 08:35 PM

can any of e pros here help me clarify this place?
spelling might be off cuz was told over the fone with BAD reception...

From Myanmar.
Dang Na, KyiangTong. Maiyang Road

how to travel there with minimal time OR minimal cost

travel guide with cost would be most appriciated cuz im leaving tomorrow night to bangkok, would really need info on how to get there real fast ...

thanks mates

korb

20-06-2006, 11:29 PM

sounds reasonable.... congrats! :)

THANKS,singrakthai and naemlo.i not rich,so that what i can offer.but still got to rom in sing,so another expenses expected.

Tao Tai Lang

21-06-2006, 02:07 AM

As long as she is holding China passport, she needs a visa.
How about holding China passport, but she is already Sg PR? cos my wife just got her PR.:confused:

naemlo

21-06-2006, 05:13 AM

How about holding China passport, but she is already Sg PR? cos my wife just got her PR.:confused:

She's a PR n no SG passport??? Go n make a SG passport, save a lot of trouble. If she is holding a China passport, pls apply a visa.

bikee69

21-06-2006, 08:28 AM

She's a PR n no SG passport??? Go n make a SG passport, save a lot of trouble. If she is holding a China passport, pls apply a visa.

Can a PR apply for a SG Passport??? :confused:

camelot

21-06-2006, 08:50 AM

Can a PR apply for a SG Passport??? :confused:

PR can get a blue Sinagpore IC but cannot apply Singapore passport.
To go JB she must get Malaysian visa using her PRC passport.

SingViet

21-06-2006, 09:22 AM

She's a PR n no SG passport??? Go n make a SG passport, save a lot of trouble. If she is holding a China passport, pls apply a visa.

Bro, i think u got it wrong. PRs cannot hold Singapore passport, they only hold Singapore BLUE ID.

Rof|maoxz

21-06-2006, 09:26 AM

How about holding China passport, but she is already Sg PR? cos my wife just got her PR. :confused:

She has to get a REP. A Re-Entry Permit (REP) is necessary whenever a Singapore Permanent Resident (SPR) wishes to travel out of Singapore using her foreign travel documents. It will enable him/her to retain his/her SPR status while away from Singapore. :)

Tao Tai Lang

21-06-2006, 01:37 PM

She's a PR n no SG passport??? Go n make a SG passport, save a lot of trouble. If she is holding a China passport, pls apply a visa.

She has to get a REP. A Re-Entry Permit (REP) is necessary whenever a Singapore Permanent Resident (SPR) wishes to travel out of Singapore using her foreign travel documents. It will enable him/her to retain his/her SPR status while away from Singapore.
Thk for the reply. PR cannot apply Sg Passport :(

Like Bro rof say can apply REP, but that will only help to retain the PR status.
If enter Malaysia still need to apply Msian Entry Visa, or exempted due to Sg PR Status?

Leeson

21-06-2006, 04:27 PM

Thk for the reply. PR cannot apply Sg Passport :(

Like Bro rof say can apply REP, but that will only help to retain the PR status.
If enter Malaysia still need to apply Msian Entry Visa, or exempted due to Sg PR Status?

no need visa la :)

Rof|maoxz

21-06-2006, 04:38 PM

no need visa la :)

Thk for the reply. PR cannot apply Sg Passport :(

Like Bro rof say can apply REP, but that will only help to retain the PR status.
If enter Malaysia still need to apply Msian Entry Visa, or exempted due to Sg PR Status?

Yes, she still require to apply for mutiple-trip visa as per each country's immigration requirements. She need to apply a malaysian mutiple-trip visa thru' various agencies in order to enter malaysia because she still holding her own country's travel documents. Normally they will grant her one year mutliple trip visa, @ $20 processing fee.

Additionally, REP cost $10 per year, or $50 for 5 years.

DNAT

21-06-2006, 04:42 PM

She's a PR n no SG passport??? Go n make a SG passport,
wow naemlo, you give salah info ??
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_30_109stc.gif

Leeson

21-06-2006, 05:28 PM

Yes, she still require to apply for mutiple-trip visa as per each country's immigration requirements. She need to apply a malaysian mutiple-trip visa thru' various agencies in order to enter malaysia because she still holding her own country's travel documents. Normally they will grant her one year mutliple trip visa, @ $20 processing fee.

Additionally, REP cost $10 per year, or $50 for 5 years.

pai seh, never read is from china :D

naemlo

21-06-2006, 11:39 PM

Can a PR apply for a SG Passport??? :confused:

Cannot apply SG passport?? This is strange..... :confused:

naemlo

21-06-2006, 11:45 PM

PR can get a blue Sinagpore IC but cannot apply Singapore passport.
To go JB she must get Malaysian visa using her PRC passport.

Bro, i think u got it wrong. PRs cannot hold Singapore passport, they only hold Singapore BLUE ID.

Sorry, it mistake... once u get SG citizenship then u can apply SG passport.

naemlo

21-06-2006, 11:47 PM

wow naemlo, you give salah info ??

Sorry, ren you shi shu, ma you shi ti.

Paul Lam Par

22-06-2006, 01:59 AM

Sorry, ren you shi shu, ma you shi ti.
手 = shou and not 'shu'.
人有失手, 马有失蹄.

Rof|maoxz

22-06-2006, 09:48 AM

Cannot apply SG passport?? This is strange..... :confused:

SG passport bery attractive hor, even my wife bio jin goo liao. :p

naemlo

22-06-2006, 10:33 AM

SG passport bery attractive hor, even my wife bio jin goo liao. :p

Hmmm yes very attractive, but now also a bit "smelly name", cos a lot of cases ppl using SG passport to travel around for illegal stuffs and was caught. :cool:

DNAT

22-06-2006, 11:32 AM

Sorry, ren you shi shu, ma you shi ti.
its ok lah, just that I scare wait other samster read your posting then kock-up on such 'documentation' later blame you ....

I remember last time got 1 samster said something like this - if a guy already ROM in Sg, he still can marry again in China because China ROM dun have his marriage record in Sg ... this type of info/advice will 害死人的
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_13_13.gif

fat29

22-06-2006, 11:46 AM

Bro DNAT,

Cheers to your good heart. I think advice that lead people down or encourage people to do the wrong things should not be given. Thank you for pointing this out.

There are quite a fair bit of advice, some more subtely done that leads bros to commit the wrong things. Hope you will continue to spot and correct them.

its ok lah, just that I scare wait other samster read your posting then kock-up on such 'documentation' later blame you ....

I remember last time got 1 samster said something like this - if a guy already ROM in Sg, he still can marry again in China because China ROM dun have his marriage record in Sg ... this type of info/advice will 害死人的
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_13_13.gif

DNAT

22-06-2006, 12:26 PM

Bro DNAT,

Cheers to your good heart. I think advice that lead people down or encourage people to do the wrong things should not be given. Thank you for pointing this out.

There are quite a fair bit of advice, some more subtely done that leads bros to commit the wrong things. Hope you will continue to spot and correct them.
Bro fat29,

Thanks for your compliments and encouragement.

This is a open forum involving commerical sex in which some fellow samsters might go hay-wire at times. For example, a samster, who gives private tuition, asked how he could bonk the student's mother as she wears revealing attires ........ http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_14_202.gif

We can help by chipping in our views or experiences but its still an individual's own accord to make decision. Least we can do is avoid giving incorrect info/advice

Btw, I ain't no saint, just hope everyone who wanna play, play safe :D

naemlo

22-06-2006, 12:35 PM

if a guy already ROM in Sg, he still can marry again in China because China ROM dun have his marriage record in Sg

Some countries, if a foreigner want to marry the ger, u need to produce a doc of proof of single from the origin country. Back in SG, you just have to update your marriage status if u marry another ger from another country. But if you did not update the status, u can marry another ger in another country n hope that nobody knows abt this. U get wat I meant?? :rolleyes: I dunno whether China request for this "single" proof.

naemlo

22-06-2006, 12:37 PM

Btw, I ain't no saint, just hope everyone who wanna play, play safe :D

U r a saint now lah... btw the rep thingy changed liao meh?? zap n add also same?

DNAT

22-06-2006, 01:26 PM

Some countries, if a foreigner want to marry the ger, u need to produce a doc of proof of single from the origin country. Back in SG, you just have to update your marriage status if u marry another ger from another country. But if you did not update the status, u can marry another ger in another country n hope that nobody knows abt this. U get wat I meant?? :rolleyes: I dunno whether China request for this "single" proof.
meaning let say I am single and if I intend to get married, best is I get married in M'sia (Sg ROM don't have my record), then subsequently if I kao-suar a China gal then I marry her in China; then when I take CPF and I wanna retire + buy a house in Batam, I marry a cewek .... and still remain 'single' status as per Sg ROM's record. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_75.gif

DNAT

22-06-2006, 01:33 PM

U r a saint now lah... btw the rep thingy changed liao meh?? zap n add also same?
mai tu lan lah, since no one to poke, poke you a bit to pass time ....
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_7_26.gif

I also duno is it add / zap @ same rep power .. or I zap u and see

Leon Lai

22-06-2006, 01:36 PM

U r a saint now lah... btw the rep thingy changed liao meh?? zap n add also same?
Want to zapped ppl? http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_11_4.gif

naemlo

22-06-2006, 01:58 PM

and still remain 'single' status as per Sg ROM's record.

So dun marry a local ger..... :D

naemlo

22-06-2006, 02:00 PM

I also duno is it add / zap @ same rep power .. or I zap u and see

I thought zap is divide by 2 of the rep power?? U mentioned this in another post mah, I blur mah... must find out on someone...:D

naemlo

22-06-2006, 02:01 PM

Want to zapped ppl?

Dunno yet, still thinking n observing... :rolleyes:

DNAT

22-06-2006, 02:12 PM

So dun marry a local ger..... :D
may I correct a bit? - marry a local gal but dun ROM locally http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_3_16.gif hahaha

DNAT

22-06-2006, 02:21 PM

... still thinking n observing... :rolleyes:
no need to think 1 lah, just zap waypastprime !!! and put Rolfmao's nick !!! :D

Leon Lai

22-06-2006, 02:22 PM

Dunno yet, still thinking n observing...
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_11_59.gif to up me better http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_19.gif

GoGoGo

22-06-2006, 03:14 PM

GoGoGo

22-06-2006, 03:17 PM

U get wat I meant?? :rolleyes: I dunno whether China request for this "single" proof.

If I am not wrong, in china think the guy needs proof of being single... ;)

naemlo

22-06-2006, 04:14 PM

may I correct a bit? - marry a local gal but dun ROM locally

Ya but u think local ger so stupid meh?? :eek:

naemlo

22-06-2006, 04:18 PM

no need to think 1 lah, just zap waypastprime !!!

Mai lah, he diam diam, good boy nowsadays. :D

naemlo

22-06-2006, 04:20 PM

to up me better

Let me think n observe first... :D

naemlo

22-06-2006, 04:27 PM

well said... esp. those that mislead pple into filing for bankruptcy (althou out of the point, but seen so many pple went bankrupt and regret later due to misleading info...) ;)

U meant credit cards, personal loan....???? Wah lau nowsdays having a platium card is a norm for youngsters..... Last time, when police wear bermudas, u need to earn 100k but now 50k can apply liao.

naemlo

22-06-2006, 04:29 PM

If I am not wrong, in china think the guy needs proof of being single... ;)

In China I dunno, but u can check with your kaki... u know who hor?? He disappear in the thin air liao ;)

Rof|maoxz

22-06-2006, 05:15 PM

Bro fat29,

Thanks for your compliments and encouragement.

Btw, I ain't no saint, just hope everyone who wanna play, play safe :D

Bro fat29, bingo!! You have find the right person for help. Uncle D is the kingpin of all helps, esp. red chillis... :D

naemlo

22-06-2006, 05:30 PM

Bro fat29, bingo!! You have find the right person for help. Uncle D is the kingpin of all helps, esp. red chillis... :D

Look at the no. of posting he has, show he is indeed the most helpful samster in the forum. :D

GLHunter

22-06-2006, 11:41 PM

GLHunter

24-06-2006, 04:40 PM

I intend to bing my gf from thailand here to study, mabe language couse.. at the same time can stay here with me, getting used to the enviroment here. She has a degree from Thailand. Any bros can advise the following?

1. Does she need to apply student pass? or just go stamp passport every month as a tourist staying here?

2. How to apply?

Thanks for the advise in advance!

naemlo

25-06-2006, 01:00 AM

1. Does she need to apply student pass? or just go stamp passport every month as a tourist staying here?

Yes she needs student pass. With student pass, she dun need to in n out of the country.

2. How to apply?

Most 'school' woll assist u on this.

SingViet

25-06-2006, 08:41 AM

Most 'school' woll assist u on this.

Yes, all the schools will assist the students to apply for student pass. Actually the process is quite simple, but leaving it to the school is still the best. Saves the student a few trips to ICA :D

GLHunter

25-06-2006, 10:10 PM

Rof|maoxz

25-06-2006, 10:17 PM

actually i am thinking of getting private tutor to teach her one to one.
maybe more focus, maybe cheaper? coz u minus all the classroom rental, aircon, overheads etc..

but like that can apply student pass? bros comments? :rolleyes:

Getting her aprivate tutor may be a cheap alternative. But it is a better idea to get her certified by a school because with these certs, it helps her a great deal in future.

GLHunter

28-06-2006, 11:02 PM

Getting her aprivate tutor may be a cheap alternative. But it is a better idea to get her certified by a school because with these certs, it helps her a great deal in future.

Thats what i think after days of research too.. i am thinking of enrolling her to the British Council.. sounds good hor.. :p

BS07

29-06-2006, 01:12 AM

actually i am thinking of getting private tutor to teach her one to one.
maybe more focus, maybe cheaper? coz u minus all the classroom rental, aircon, overheads etc..

but like that can apply student pass? bros comments? :rolleyes:

how cheap do you want it to be? i know some schools... say learn english one month only less than 300?

Rof|maoxz

29-06-2006, 02:29 AM

Thats what i think after days of research too.. i am thinking of enrolling her to the British Council.. sounds good hor.. :p

Of course British Council is good place to learn english. But the fees is not that cheap. I think let your ger learn the basic fundamental first before gg on to learn the english from the BC. :)

SingViet

29-06-2006, 09:04 AM

actually i am thinking of getting private tutor to teach her one to one.
maybe more focus, maybe cheaper? coz u minus all the classroom rental, aircon, overheads etc..

but like that can apply student pass? bros comments? :rolleyes:

There is no way for a foreigner to get a student pass if she is not enrolled in an approved school.

bikee69

29-06-2006, 11:52 AM

Of course British Council is good place to learn english. But the fees is not that cheap. I think let your ger learn the basic fundamental first before gg on to learn the english from the BC. :)

ya. i agree with u. thats why i sent my wife to take up BEST class at ITE first :p

hoosdathu

29-06-2006, 08:40 PM

ya. i agree with u. thats why i sent my wife to take up BEST class at ITE first :p
but r the BEST courses open for student pass applicants from foreign countries:confused:

bikee69

29-06-2006, 08:55 PM

but r the BEST courses open for student pass applicants from foreign countries:confused:

No. Only for S'pore Citizen, PR, Work Pass or Dependant Pass holder.

WifeNaked

30-06-2006, 12:18 AM

but r the BEST courses open for student pass applicants from foreign countries
Hope this site can help u

----> http://www.ite.edu.sg/cet/best/index.htm :)

Rof|maoxz

30-06-2006, 11:29 AM

but r the BEST courses open for student pass applicants from foreign countries :confused:

Erm... interesting.... I doubt ITE help applying student passes for foreign students. They do offer courses to foreigners at a slightly higher fees.

mission153

30-06-2006, 01:14 PM

Any bro know, if i marry prc gal can i apply her own sister 2 attend wedding in singapore???

mission153

30-06-2006, 01:46 PM

any bro knw if i marry prc gal, can i apply her family member 2 attend wedding dinner in singapore???

chan1

30-06-2006, 02:58 PM

Mission153

They can come on regular visit pass to attend the wedding. Social visit pass should be for a 14 day period. Should be enough for pre-wedding, dinner and some follow up.

mahalosux

30-06-2006, 03:49 PM

Any bro know, if i marry prc gal can i apply her own sister 2 attend wedding in singapore???

any bro knw if i marry prc gal, can i apply her family member 2 attend wedding dinner in singapore???

how come 2 qns of the similar nature??? hmmm....

solucky0621

30-06-2006, 06:32 PM

i need to know too.
besides that i have another question: is it really necessary to submit the household booklet when applying social visit visa for my PRC girlfriend who is unemployed there as stated in "Document Checklist for Applicant(For Nationals of Assessment Level 1 Countries)?
I actually managed to apply one for her successfully in March this year without submitting photocopy of the household booklet. why is it necessary now? change of policy?
This time she is coming here to ROM with me.
Big brothers out there please advise.:)

Rof|maoxz

30-06-2006, 10:11 PM

mahalosux

30-06-2006, 10:20 PM

Hello there, social visit visa can be applied without her household booklet.

bro..at the present moment, i guess still need a photocopy of household booklet if i not wrong....and 2 photographs instead of 1....

Rof|maoxz

30-06-2006, 10:24 PM

bro..at the present moment, i guess still need a photocopy of household booklet if i not wrong....and 2 photographs instead of 1....

I just submitted one photo for my wife's "biao mei". Only the biodata pages of the travel document + $20 for the visa, plus filling up the form 14 and the LOI form. No additional things asked from me.

mahalosux

30-06-2006, 10:26 PM

I just submitted one photo for my wife's "biao mei". Only the biodata pages of the travel document + $20 for the visa. No additional things asked from me.

ooopss i mean 1 of the foto is paste on the form 14..and another is to be submited along wif the form....

Rof|maoxz

30-06-2006, 10:29 PM

ooopss i mean 1 of the foto is paste on the form 14..and another is to be submited along wif the form....

Yup, correct!

Randi_Candi

30-06-2006, 10:42 PM

Hello there, social visit visa can be applied without her household booklet. Just sent in her first 4 pages + last 2 pages of her travel doucment, 1 photograph, and her signature and do the submission.
2 photos n no need household bklet
But if applying 4 em 2 cum in n not only visit, better drop the idea
things get complicated;)

Rof|maoxz

30-06-2006, 11:59 PM

2 photos n no need household bklet
But if applying 4 em 2 cum in n not only visit, better drop the idea
things get complicated ;)

Planning to find her a local husband. :D

solucky0621

01-07-2006, 12:04 AM

thanks a lot brothers. guess will just submit without household book, they will check at the counter and let me know if anything is missing.:) :)

Randi_Candi

01-07-2006, 12:31 AM

Planning to find her a local husband. :D
u mai hai larng hor, not every1 is s goot s u:D

naemlo

01-07-2006, 02:49 AM

Planning to find her a local husband. :D

Nbzzz I queue up so long liao still boh intro to me. :eek:

Leon Lai

01-07-2006, 03:10 AM

I actually managed to apply one for her successfully in March this year without submitting photocopy of the household booklet. why is it necessary now? change of policy?
This time she is coming here to ROM with me.
Big brothers out there please advise.
My wife just got her PR this month, confirm household booklet is only required when applying for PR.

Entry Visa/Extention/LTSVP no need Household Booklet. For LTSVP application, make sure u have min two previous year Tax Assessment ready, but if u have more, just submit it, regardless of whether u have to pay tax or not. It will help to prove u are an asset to Singapore and not a liability.

Since u will be ROM soon, just get ready your Household Booklet ready cos u confirm need it eventually.

They ask for Household booklet from u when u apply for Visa maybe becos u 'so lucky' :D

mahalosux

01-07-2006, 09:59 AM

They ask for Household booklet from u when u apply for Visa maybe becos u 'so lucky' :D

According to the checklist of form 14..see below attached

http://www.ica.gov.sg/downloads/serv_visitor/Checklist4.pdf

Pt (C)..it is a requirement for us to submit a photocopy of hse hold booklet, if she is unemployed back in china..

this is applicable for social visit and entry visa..

if applying for PRC spouse to singapore for the purpose of ROM..it falls under the category of entry visa...

B) Social Visit (visiting friends, relatives and for tourism)

Local contact's Singapore identity card (original & photocopy);
1 copy (original) of duly completed and signed Form V39A ;
A letter from the applicant’s employer granting leave of absence and stating how long the applicant has been employed, his/her designation and salary if he/she is employed; or
A copy of the household booklet if he/she is a PRC national and is unemployed.
- Extracted from http://app.ica.gov.sg/serv_visitor/entry_visa/visa_level1.asp

solucky0621

01-07-2006, 10:21 AM

[QUOTE][) Social Visit (visiting friends, relatives and for tourism)

Local contact's Singapore identity card (original & photocopy);
1 copy (original) of duly completed and signed Form V39A ;
A letter from the applicant’s employer granting leave of absence and stating how long the applicant has been employed, his/her designation and salary if he/she is employed; or
A copy of the household booklet if he/she is a PRC national and is unemployed.
/QUOTE]

that's exactly what i saw which caused me to worry. will follow bro 黎明's advice, anyway will still get my wife to be to send it over, a bit frustrated for me cos i just came back from china a few days ago and she wanted to pass me a copy but i told her that she should keep it for later. so stupid of me. kam sia for all the wonderful replies.

mahalosux

01-07-2006, 10:32 AM

that's exactly what i saw which caused me to worry. will follow bro 黎明's advice, anyway will still get my wife to be to send it over, a bit frustrated for me cos i just came back from china a few days ago and she wanted to pass me a copy but i told her that she should keep it for later. so stupid of me. kam sia for all the wonderful replies.

You can ask ur wife to go to 邮电局 to fax the docu over..
the part that show her parents' data/ bios and hers..

i always believe in playing safe..and fulfilled all the requirement stated by ICA..just in case they want to 'play punk'....

solucky0621

01-07-2006, 10:38 AM

solucky0621

01-07-2006, 10:42 AM

any question: does she need a return ticket when she comes in since she is coming for ROM and therefore staying for quite a while?

mahalosux

01-07-2006, 10:56 AM

didn't know fax copy can. thanks for advice. guess someone up there is testing us, why is being together with the one you love so difficult? and this is only the beginning, there's the LTSVP and PR etc. :(

they dun need the original..just photocopy the fax copy and attached it along with form 14 as a supporting document..

well..i guess u r not the only one who have this thoughts..i guess there r plenty others who oso faced wif the difficulties of applying for the love ones to come to singapore..all boils down to your persistency...

any question: does she need a return ticket when she comes in since she is coming for ROM and therefore staying for quite a while?

this one i cannot fully answer u..but if i in your shoe, i will sent her a copy of solemnizaition appt (can be printed via ROM's homepage, upon registering for a solemnization date) at ROM to her, with a supporting letter from you that yo are intending to marry her in singapore and request the Custom offier to allow her to proceed.

Rof|maoxz

01-07-2006, 12:06 PM

u mai hai larng hor, not every1 is s goot s u

I also think so. :rolleyes:

Nbzzz I queue up so long liao still boh intro to me.

You wana go BKK, wana go HCC. Still wanna follow me go mainland? How to intro you to be part of our familee? :D

Leon Lai

01-07-2006, 01:06 PM

Pt (C)..it is a requirement for us to submit a photocopy of hse hold booklet, if she is unemployed back in china.
will follow bro 黎明's advice
Opsss so sorry, :o Bro solucky0621 better get ready the Hsebooklet, I make a mistake, lucky Bro maha pointed that out, but I am not wrong too, cos I apply my wife's Entry Visa with 'Special' reason. And they waive the requirement. And they only ask for it when i apply for her PR. I believe i am the 'solucky' one , hahaha.

Get the Hsebooklet translated to English too.
Sub-Courts translator charge $18 for the 1st page and $12 for every subsquence pages. I pay $66 for total 5 pages. ;)

Leon Lai

01-07-2006, 01:11 PM

any question: does she need a return ticket when she comes in since she is coming for ROM and therefore staying for quite a while?
Play safe just get the return ticket too. ;) Afterall, not really great difference in price when u get one or two tickets. At time, if she manage to get LTSVP, u may appeal for refund too. :p

mahalosux

01-07-2006, 01:22 PM

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Get the Hsebooklet translated to English too.
Sub-Courts translator charge $18 for the 1st page and $12 for every subsquence pages. I pay $66 for total 5 pages. ;)

guess they do not need translation during the submission to ICA for entry visa..

but for PR application ,etc..they may need to do a translation....

mahalosux

01-07-2006, 01:24 PM

Play safe just get the return ticket too. ;) Afterall, not really great difference in price when u get one or two tickets. At time, if she manage to get LTSVP, u may appeal for refund too. :p

if his wife is arriving during this period of time......not a bad idea to get those ticket open for 6 mths and above..cos may need to go back for CNY, etc...

solucky0621

01-07-2006, 07:03 PM

thanks brother Leon Lai, will take note, no choice but to get her to fax over. as for airticket, i am quite cheapo, thought of cutting cost so thinking of budget carrier, possibly jetstarasia from HK( i got that for her in March). I guess i should not be so stingy, will get a 6 months ticket. really appreciate the advice and encouragement offered by brothers out there especially bothers Mahalosux, Rof|maoxz and Leon Lai. it's heartening to know that help is available readily on this forum, thanks a million. 狮城有温暖，ha ha.　:) :)

Rof|maoxz

04-07-2006, 08:13 AM

Play safe just get the return ticket too. ;) Afterall, not really great difference in price when u get one or two tickets. At time, if she manage to get LTSVP, u may appeal for refund too.

I have got $28 for the refund portion, SQ flight somemore. :mad:

DNAT

04-07-2006, 10:11 AM

I have got $28 for the refund portion, SQ flight somemore. :mad:
S$28 can go for TN 1/2 hour .... authentic 1 lah :D

Leon Lai

04-07-2006, 11:31 AM

I have got $28 for the refund portion, SQ flight somemore.
Mine also SQ flight, two way ticket = about $1100, refund = $160 :mad:

Rof|maoxz

05-07-2006, 04:54 PM

Mine also SQ flight, two way ticket = about $1100, refund = $160.

Nbzz 黎明, you chiak me izzit? :mad: Later I ask Andy Lau zap you!! :D

vmtech

06-07-2006, 12:41 AM

any bros here with a burmese wife? nid some info on how to get her to stay in thailand for long periods of time..

mahalosux

06-07-2006, 06:20 PM

S$28 can go for TN 1/2 hour .... authentic 1 lah :D

uncle ..nowadays not much massage palour liaozz..u can save ur $28...
hahahaha:D

Rof|maoxz

16-07-2006, 03:20 AM

Morning.... My fellow bros.... how are you?? It has been days that I have since posted in this thread. Just a update.... have met with some of the bros with china wife over the weekend, and we exchanged tips, culture and other exchanges among each other. Feel free to pm me if you want to have a low-profile TCSS with us. ;)

Furthermore, those who have failed at least twice in their spouse SPR application, please do share the reason for the rejection, I may be able to find out more in how to improve your SPR application in the next submission. Cheers. :)

CheckMate

16-07-2006, 08:30 AM

Rof|maoxz

16-07-2006, 02:58 PM

Hi,have a bit of situaton here.my buddy just got bankrupt.he has a china wife and she is in singapore now.they r married for 1.5 years le.last week they went to extend thier green card but was rejected.now ica wan her to go back.so lan lan got to go but now he worry that she cant come back due to his status.

he cant ask help from his family as they r not close.so wat can he do to apply his wife to come singapore again in the next few month.pls advice.thanks...

Approach his family members for help.
Quicky get himself out of bankrupt status.
She won't be able to come back so soon, even with a MP's help.

Rof|maoxz

16-07-2006, 03:04 PM

My wife also a LTSVP holder and will be renewing her green card in 2 months time..

Now I am also worried she may not get her green card renewed due to some reasons.

Would anyone know how often this happen in ICA?

I do not know what reason worryingly you. Maybe you may like to pm me for details.

Ps: Another infor, those who have applied for SPR for their spouses, awaiting for letter from ICA.... if the letter is very light, most probably 1 piece of letter, den It's bad news, if the letter is quite thick, den It's good news!! Congrats!! :)

bikee69

16-07-2006, 04:30 PM

any bros here with a burmese wife? nid some info on how to get her to stay in thailand for long periods of time..

Met an Angmo in MaeSai last year and is GF is from Khiang Tong. He is staying in MaeSai and set up and Internet Cafe there. What he did to get hos GF to stay there is to get help from the shop owner there to apply a work permit for his GF but not working there. He only paid for the fee for the work permit application.

Hope this help. :)

GLHunter

16-07-2006, 07:14 PM

Rof|maoxz

16-07-2006, 08:46 PM

if my thai gf were to come to take up english course, can i bring her to malaysia or other countries for a trip/ holi during her free time?
Is there any concern of custom regulation or have to apply for permit somewhere? :rolleyes:

Please check with the malaysian high commission as whether she need / need not require a entry visa into malaysia. :)

SingViet

17-07-2006, 08:11 AM

This article is on TODAY newspaper on Monday, July 17. I forsee more difficulties for Bros with PRC gfs... haiz

CRACK DOWN ON THE `MARRIAGE FOR-PR' BRIGADE

Letter From LO WEN XIANG

Under current immigration laws, any person can apply for permanent residency (PR) as long as they are the unmarried child or spouse of a Singapore citizen, most notably Singaporean males.

Many China nationals are flocking to Singapore on work permits or under the ruse of study or social visits, in a bid to land themselves a marriage contract as their stepping stone to a better life here.

It is well-known among female PR-hopefuls here that having borne a child with their Singaporean husbands will greatly enhance their chances of getting their application granted.

These woman - usually armed with no technical expertise valuable enough to apply for PR under the category of Professional / technical Personnel and Skilled Workers Scheme - often use their sexual lures to enter into a marriage deal with the sole aim of gaining permanent abode here.

When this aim is achieved, some try to file for divorce, disregarding the plight of their husband and children, to continue their quest of an even better life.

Yet this situation is dismissed as something that the `lecherous old man' has brought down upon himself.

I urge the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority to look into revising the law such that one's PR will be revoked when one files for divorce without any good reason, where the marriage had been the basis for their PR status.

Towards this end, there should be a body to verify who is at fault for the irreparable state of the marriage

Hunter77

17-07-2006, 08:22 AM

Woah... it is hard to imagine that someone would go through all these just to land herself the PR. Come to Singapore, try to hook a guy, get married, and then go through childbirth and then divorce. But then, what do we know about the PRC mentality...

whitegenki

17-07-2006, 11:00 AM

Is there really a lotz of procedures and documentation to do if u want to marry a thai girl?izzit really that hard to apply a PR for her if we are to married?

all bro pls advice

gust81

17-07-2006, 11:48 AM

Wah... Sounds like some arsehole nothing else better to do and write this kind of letter to the press.... If singapore guys got no more PDMM to shag is he or she willing to offer his or her arse as replacement? Like that catch all the scammers never mind, end up those who are legit also kena... :mad:

On the side note, Ya!!!! got the visa this morning from ICA liao!!! Can ask my gal to come over to ROM!!! :D My gal from Hainan... Any bros wife from same area?

naemlo

17-07-2006, 01:33 PM

Is there really a lotz of procedures and documentation to do if u want to marry a thai girl?izzit really that hard to apply a PR for her if we are to married?

Same procedures as long as u r living in this world n not other planet. :D Depends, no easy no difficult. My friend marry a PRC, within mths, she has her PR.

mahalosux

17-07-2006, 02:03 PM

I urge the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority to look into revising the law such that one's PR will be revoked when one files for divorce without any good reason, where the marriage had been the basis for their PR status.

Towards this end, there should be a body to verify who is at fault for the irreparable state of the marriage

i totally agree wif the above statement, quoted from TODAY....

cos it will be fair for the man..who take all the trouble to bring the woman over to singapore and at then end of the day..she value the PR status than the man..

but i do hope the authority come easy when it deals with authentic application for PR....

just clear off those 'black sheeps' who come to singapore on the expense of the genuine ones...

fair and square....:cool:

sexlover

17-07-2006, 02:10 PM

Same procedures as long as u r living in this world n not other planet.
LCB, if marry girl aka alien from other planet how? :confused:

naemlo

17-07-2006, 02:13 PM

LCB, if marry girl aka alien from other planet how? :confused:

Then come to me for verification.... :eek:

Rof|maoxz

17-07-2006, 02:36 PM

This article is on TODAY newspaper on Monday, July 17. I forsee more difficulties for Bros with PRC gfs... haiz

CRACK DOWN ON THE `MARRIAGE FOR-PR' BRIGADE

Lucky mine get it before all these saga. Tks~ to Mr Lo hor. :D

Rof|maoxz

17-07-2006, 02:41 PM

Then come to me for verification.... :eek:

You fuck aliens also?? :rolleyes:

There is few places to get your X-ray and medical examination for your spouse for LTSVP or SPR.

Medical Imaging - Orchard Total Diagnostic Centre
TeL: 62383610

AMK X-ray Clinic & Laboratory
Tel: 64599806

Tampines Street 11 X-Ray Clinic
Tel: 67857409

naemlo

17-07-2006, 03:13 PM

You fuck aliens also?? :rolleyes:

Thanks for the info, u also need to visit soon. U forget wat I did to u last night when u were drunk?? :eek:

Rof|maoxz

17-07-2006, 09:31 PM

Thanks for the info, u also need to visit soon. U forget wat I did to u last night when u were drunk?? :eek:

You are sick!! Don't friend you liao. :D

whitegenki

17-07-2006, 09:38 PM

Same procedures as long as u r living in this world n not other planet. :D Depends, no easy no difficult. My friend marry a PRC, within mths, she has her PR.
hmm....
mayb 1 of these day go down to ICA to clarify more
thx aniway

Rof|maoxz

19-07-2006, 09:53 AM

Hheheheheh these few days I cannot... the big cat is around. :D

HaHa.... Cat is finally back. Anyway during Cat's absence, been managed to meet up with the lengendary naemlo, ba xa oi!!, and some of the hubbies with PRC wife, shall not name their names here. Anyway hope to arrange more of this meeting in future. Will keep you guys posted. Cheers~ ;)

guruking

23-07-2006, 11:31 PM

Rof|maoxz

24-07-2006, 02:59 PM

Get your ROM date asap....

Today's Date: 24 Jul 2006
Earliest Solemnisation Date: 15 Aug 2006
Latest Solemnisation Date: 24 Oct 2006

List of Popular Days

# 08 August 2006 (DOUBLE DATE)
# 09 September 2006 (DOUBLE DATE)
# 06 October 2006 (8TH LUNAR MTH - 15TH DAY)
# 10 October 2006 (DOUBLE DATE)
# 11 November 2006 (DOUBLE DATE)
# 12 December 2006 (DOUBLE DATE)

ROM reserves the right to change the list of popular dates at short notice. You are therefore advised to check the ROM website for the latest update.

If a popular date/day falls on a Sunday or Public Holiday, you may only file a notice of marriage for solemnisation to take place outside the ROM.

Rof|maoxz

24-07-2006, 03:05 PM

Advisor needed!

If the guy earns abt $60k/yr with a diploma and the lady is a indo chinese with a local pte diploma.

What is the chances of getting a PR for the wife and how long it take?
if the guy is a divorcee will it reduce the chance?

Thanks in advance!

The rules applies to all.... and ICA treat each and every application vigilantly and seriously, be it you earn 15K/year, 30K/year or 60K/year. Even if you are supported by your minister MP, it is just another reference letter. But for those who have failed once in their SPR application, you can use this letter to appeal, no need to fill up the bloody long "lou sho" forms again, and wait for their reply.

guruking, I see that you do stand a good chance of of getting a SPR, providing she is clean on her immigration records. Whether she is a divorcee or you are a divorcee, doesn't matter, provided your divorcee proceedings are finalised. :)

guruking

24-07-2006, 05:19 PM

guruking, I see that you do stand a good chance of of getting a SPR, providing she is clean on her immigration records. Whether she is a divorcee or you are a divorcee, doesn't matter, provided your divorcee proceedings are finalised. :)

Bro Rofl,

what u mean by standing a good chance? In term of? pls explain....thanks.
i also like to know the average/general waiting time for getting a PR as there is some urgent matter to attend to....Cheers!

Rof|maoxz

25-07-2006, 09:16 AM

Bro Rofl,

what u mean by standing a good chance? In term of? pls explain....thanks.
i also like to know the average/general waiting time for getting a PR as there is some urgent matter to attend to....Cheers!

The waiting time for the PR processing is 4 weeks to 12 weeks. From the way you relate your case, you do have a good chance of attaining SPR for your spouse, but anyway you go submit first.... I talk also no use.

guruking

25-07-2006, 03:52 PM

tks....on behalf :)

NTUC

25-07-2006, 05:32 PM

29th Sep should be quite 'hot' date too, cos 八月初八 ;) Huat Huat

Rof|maoxz

28-07-2006, 09:19 AM

I believe most of my points come from here and my past AV contributions.... So special thanks to these ppl. Since this thread is mainly delicate to husbands with PRC foreigner wives, I shall touch on how I apply and finally attain SPR for my PRC wife.

Tell you franky, it's not an easy breeze for me to get SPR for my wifey. Also quite complicated, alot of paperworks, translations so on and forth, furthermore my pay at that time is also low. The lowest annual pay I have ever get was 18K when I become her local sponsor at that time, Haha. So Lanlan, got to put up a $3K security deposit for her.

Luckily my wifey still get the 6 mth LTSVP, after finalizing the medical check-up examination. The security deposit was refunded after 6 wks. I got to admit extending her social visa is very time-consuming, although I know that the time was not right for a SPR application as yet. Mainly due to my low-pay at that time, and her residential requirements. So I put in the SPR application 6 mths after her first LTSVP, to test my luck. Woo... the reply was damn fast, 4 wks to be exact, and the reply was also short and crisp, it was rejected. :( ICA told me to apply in 18 mths later. Nevertheless, I know the main reason could be my annual salary, although I'm paying taxes in Yr 2000-2002. The only remedy I can improve is to build up my annual gross, and send her for english foundation class in ITE. Yes, the fees was very expensive, as compared to citizens and SPRs. $150+ per module as compared to only < $50 for the subsided lot. Heck care lor, just continue to work like chinaman, slog like hell. Still managed to purchase a resale flat with my wifey as an occupier at that time, while still holding the social visit pass.

Time files.... and I have spent $240 for the visa extension and $50+ for the 2nd time medical examination. 2 years] I decided to test my luck again, before that, I'm thinking of going to MP, but I decided not to do that, just to keep that as a last resort, I went thru' the 2nd time SPR application round, that time my year gross was about $35K. And I waited almost 8 wks for the reply. **Actually for those who have rejected once, you can go straight to ICA to appeal, with the required documents submitted, so that you no need to fill in the pink form once again. You will also receive a letter to know whether your appeal is successfull or not** So inside me, I think gone case liao, since so long.

The agonizing 8th wks came, I receive an unusual thick letter from ICA, quite tense at that time, but I still bravely open up and know what's the content inside. The application was successful. To finalise the SPR, just need to produce 4 photos, and $$$, $170 to be exact. :D

So I guess every ppl have different cases, be it a PRC with student pass married to singaporeans, professional visit pass holders married to singaporeans, PDMM to singaporeans, PRC divorcee to singaporeans, bankrupt singaporeans married foreigner Wife etc etc.... The most important thing is to declare truthfully and accurately to the ICA authorities. Be patient, find out what's the cause of the failed SPR application, 63916085, and improve if possible. Dun rush thru' the process, because our chips will get lessen after each tries. Good luck~

Rof|

Durex_69

29-07-2006, 11:04 AM

Thank you bro Rof for sharing his experience.

I'm now with a PRC girl and this topic is really of great help in terms of experience, information and knowledge sharing.

Though we still have not ROM yet, this should happen next year, after visiting her parents during CNY next year.

Then ...... all the info in this topic will be "put into practice".

Noticed 1 thing when extending her LTSVP ... LUCK ! There is this ICA officer who look damn strict and those numbers appear to be "served" by her all kanna a long standing / Q&A at the counter when submitting application.

Lucky for me, was at the other counter and the ICA Officer even helped me to fill in some blanks which I said I don't know how to fill up.

Submit application, go lunch, jalan jalan and collect her newly extended LTSVP. Luckily don't need for Security Deposit, cos me that month very broke. :o

Rof|maoxz

29-07-2006, 11:10 AM

Noticed 1 thing when extending her LTSVP ... LUCK ! There is this ICA officer who look damn strict and those numbers appear to be "served" by her all kanna a long standing / Q&A at the counter when submitting application.

Lucky for me, was at the other counter and the ICA Officer even helped me to fill in some blanks which I said I don't know how to fill up.

Submit application, go lunch, jalan jalan and collect her newly extended LTSVP. Luckily don't need for Security Deposit, cos me that month very broke.

Is the officer an Indian plump woman? :rolleyes: Anyway how you get the LTSVP when both of you are not married? Or you are referring to visa application of $20?

sexlover

29-07-2006, 12:22 PM

Tell you franky, it's not an easy breeze for me to get SPR for my wifey. Also quite complicated, alot of paperworks, translations so on and forth, furthermore my pay at that time is also low.
先苦后甜，苦尽甘来。 :D

mahalosux

29-07-2006, 12:37 PM

Is the officer an Indian plump woman? :rolleyes: Anyway how you get the LTSVP when both of you are not married? Or you are referring to visa application of $20?

yah..i oso thought the same way..i only tot tat oni after ROM then can applied for LTSVP...i guess he is referin to extention of visa...

clear the 1st step liaozz..me now thinkin abt LTSVP..hopefully the officer...not kuai lan type...:o

long and tedious process....

Durex_69

30-07-2006, 10:02 PM

Is the officer an Indian plump woman? :rolleyes: Anyway how you get the LTSVP when both of you are not married? Or you are referring to visa application of $20?

Not Indian, but a stone face Chinese lady.

Actually, she is a PDMM. Or should I say its a 6 mths SVP ? $60, if I didn't remember wrongly. :)

Rof|maoxz

31-07-2006, 09:30 AM

Not Indian, but a stone face Chinese lady.

Actually, she is a PDMM. Or should I say its a 6 mths SVP ? $60, if I didn't remember wrongly. :)

No wonder lah, so your ger is a PDMM, holding the LTSVP. The fee for extension is $40, multiple-trip visa is $20. So are you her local sponsor now? If yes, next time when you ROM, continue to be her local sponsor, be prepared with the paperworks required, especially her divorce translation documents, education documents and household booklet.

As for her kid, not to worry as the kid already has his passport and student pass extended up to 10 years if he/she study in a government school. :)

banker

31-07-2006, 11:56 AM

very useful thread, thanks bros, especially Rof|maoxz,
i have read from the start, now seem a bit blur, too many reading...

here are my doubt....
i m M'sian with Sg PR, i have a Prc gf.
she works in the same factory as me, as operator for 3 years already,
and she holding WORK PERMIT, her current contract will end Feb 07.
she plan to quit and go back China holiday after that.

1. if she marry me, she able to get PR, because previous thread mentioned Work Permit holder difficult to approve.
2. she studied in Collage in China b4, and own a mechanical diplama ( she said her father bought ),
but when she join here, her agent change (fake) to electronic diploma. and destroy the original copy,
so, when applying PR, what to put in her Educational Level ?

if we get marry now, what things i need to do ?
1st : go MOM to get approver ?
2nd : go ROM ?
3dr : when can start to apply PR for her ?

what if after her contract end, she goes back China,
what should i do to bring her here ?
1st : marry her in china 1st and bring her back ?
2nd : apply LTSVP ? when to apply ? if the period expires, she need to goes and come back ?
3rd : go ROM ?
4th : apply PR ?

if in both cases, can not get PR, must keep on re-newing LTSVP for her ?

she went back china twice for home leave and visit m'sia regulary ( untill passport Full ).

my education level : Adv diploma in Mechatronic ( from M'sia Collage )
PR since 2002
work in same company for 6 years, work as technician.
gross 30k over,
pay taxes yearly...
sorry, company acknownledge letter for which process ?

hope for ur replies....thanks.

mahalosux

31-07-2006, 02:33 PM

here are my doubt....
i m M'sian with Sg PR, i have a Prc gf.
she works in the same factory as me, as operator for 3 years already,
and she holding WORK PERMIT, her current contract will end Feb 07.
she plan to quit and go back China holiday after that.

1. if she marry me, she able to get PR, because previous thread mentioned Work Permit holder difficult to approve.
2. she studied in Collage in China b4, and own a mechanical diplama ( she said her father bought ),
but when she join here, her agent change (fake) to electronic diploma. and destroy the original copy,
so, when applying PR, what to put in her Educational Level ?

WP holder a bit tough..heard from someone tat u gotta submit the request to MOM... b4 u r cleared to submit the necessary documentation to ICA.

b4 the application to ICA, is best to register on line for a date for solemnization. as this will show ICA u r sincere in the application..even better if u request your parents to be your witness during solemnization, this will at least support your case is genuine.

for her qualification, use the one she is holding at the moment, i.e. dip in electronic, since her record in singapore shown tat she is a graduate in dip in electronic. if the govt body find the info not tally, they will hv doubts about her application..

if we get marry now, what things i need to do ?
1st : go MOM to get approver ?
2nd : go ROM ?
3dr : when can start to apply PR for her ?

what if after her contract end, she goes back China,
what should i do to bring her here ?
1st : marry her in china 1st and bring her back ?
2nd : apply LTSVP ? when to apply ? if the period expires, she need to goes and come back ?
3rd : go ROM ?
4th : apply PR ?

if in both cases, can not get PR, must keep on re-newing LTSVP for her ?

she went back china twice for home leave and visit m'sia regulary ( untill passport Full ).

my education level : Adv diploma in Mechatronic ( from M'sia Collage )
PR since 2002
work in same company for 6 years, work as technician.
gross 30k over,
pay taxes yearly...
sorry, company acknownledge letter for which process ?

hope for ur replies....thanks.

it will be better if u married her in SG rather than china, saw some incidents, whereby they married over in china, and when request for visa from ICA, they might meet wif some difficulties..

wif regards to the travelling to m'sia..they may ask you for the reason (s) for her visit..just be trueful wif your answer..u also can tell them tat she follo u to visit ur parents in m'sia..just to make it look authentic.

as for ur education back ground plus your annual salary..guess should not be much problem...they may need ur CPF statement, IRAS Notice of Assessment, an employment letter from your company, original and phoyocopied copy of your highest qualification to confirm your status..

but u hv been workin in your company for 6 yrs..is quite a good sign, as they look out on how stable r u in your job..at least they require u to hv a stable income if u r marryin a foreigner...

Rof|maoxz

31-07-2006, 07:08 PM

My education level : Adv diploma in Mechatronic ( from M'sia Collage )
PR since 2002
work in same company for 6 years, work as technician.
gross 30k over,
pay taxes yearly...
sorry, company acknownledge letter for which process ?

hope for ur replies....thanks.

Aiyoh banker.... why so funny de? Fake mechanical diploma cert for your gerfrd and the agent fake it again in order to process her work permit? She can pass the test this time, doesn't mean that she will pass thru' undetected when she submit for the SPR in future. This is my fore-warning for you. Both department doesn't rely on each other and they don't share the common database.

Q1 and Q2 ~ If you wish to get married while she still holding the work-permit, [is she holding the S pass >$2.5K or the normal work-permit <$1.8K? Because S Pass holders who wish to apply for PR can apply to the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority (ICA) and will be assessed based on ICA's PR criteria. ] anyway I doubt she's holding the S-Pass or the employement pass, if she's not, she need to seek MOM controller's pre-approval before heading to ROM to prevent complication of matters.

Q3 ~ You can apply SPR after marriage, with her holding the LTSVP.

Q4 ~ If her contract ends and you still did not get ROM, you need to apply a visa for her to stay for short period, this way you can still plan to get ROM during this short span of period. Because when she returns, ICA may/may not approve her to return, even on social visit, or holidaying.

If in both cases, can not get PR, must keep on renewing LTSVP for her?

Yup, you are right. Keep renewing and keep paying $60 every renewal.

Sorry, company acknowledge letter for which process?

The above is for dependent pass holder only.

I see no problem on your criteria, since you are still working. But faking a education certificate is a no-no. Good luck. :eek:

Durex_69

31-07-2006, 08:05 PM

No wonder lah, so your ger is a PDMM, holding the LTSVP. The fee for extension is $40, multiple-trip visa is $20. So are you her local sponsor now? If yes, next time when you ROM, continue to be her local sponsor, be prepared with the paperworks required, especially her divorce translation documents, education documents and household booklet.

As for her kid, not to worry as the kid already has his passport and student pass extended up to 10 years if he/she study in a government school. :)

Really an "Old Bird" ... spot on lah ...

She has all her document translated before she came over with her kid, so no problem on this issue. 1 big "discount" is that she didn't even managed to complete her Primary School Education. Think its gonna be tough when applying for SPR. :(

Rof|maoxz

31-07-2006, 08:18 PM

Really an "Old Bird" ... spot on lah ...

She has all her document translated before she came over with her kid, so no problem on this issue. 1 big "discount" is that she didn't even managed to complete her Primary School Education. Think its gonna be tough when applying for SPR. :(

No worries lah, you have not tried, and you become inconfident already? Your spouse is dependent on you leh. :rolleyes:

天剑无名

31-07-2006, 08:23 PM

No worries lah, you have not tried, and you become inconfident already? Your spouse is dependent on you leh. :rolleyes:

Give more confident lor...;)

Durex_69

31-07-2006, 08:37 PM

No worries lah, you have not tried, and you become inconfident already? Your spouse is dependent on you leh. :rolleyes:

Actually I left out something in my last post ...

Will keep my fingers crossed and ....... CHEONG ARRRRRRHHHHHHH for her SPR application :D Will try and try until "Garment" give up on me and give me her SPR ... hahahahahahahahahah

Me have been a very good Singaporean and pay tax for past donkey years, hope the "Garment" will give some face ...

Rof|maoxz

31-07-2006, 09:12 PM

Actually I left out something in my last post ...

Will keep my fingers crossed and ....... CHEONG ARRRRRRHHHHHHH for her SPR application :D Will try and try until "Garment" give up on me and give me her SPR ... hahahahahahahahahah

Me have been a very good Singaporean and pay tax for past donkey years, hope the "Garment" will give some face ...

Look forward you to become one of our Foreigner Wife's club. :D

naemlo

31-07-2006, 09:46 PM

Look forward you to become one of our Foreigner Wife's club. :D

Hmmmm u chairman of the club? :D

Rof|maoxz

31-07-2006, 11:33 PM

Hmmmm u chairman of the club? :D

I'm PA nia, hello... you shld join the Vietnamisation Club leh. :rolleyes:

popiah

31-07-2006, 11:47 PM

I'm PA nia, hello... you shld join the Vietnamisation Club leh. :rolleyes:

hi bro Rofl,

so you are the CEO of Foreign Wife Club....can i be your assistant ?

signoff
PA of Rofl

sexlover

01-08-2006, 10:59 AM

Look forward you to become one of our Foreigner Wife's club.
Testing out my new siggy. :D

plman2002

01-08-2006, 11:14 AM

Testing out my new siggy. :D

ooi,,,,,,,,, i want to collect royalty fee for yr siggies in Green color. kekeke
u retired from OSF! how come neber jio me?

sexlover

01-08-2006, 11:33 AM

ooi,,,,,,,,, i want to collect royalty fee for yr siggies in Green color. kekeke
u retired from OSF! how come neber jio me?
U are awarded the title Member Of FWC [Mt Fuji Zone] :D

Should be Semi Retired Member ;)

banker

02-08-2006, 12:24 PM

Q4 ~ If her contract ends and you still did not get ROM, you need to apply a visa for her to stay for short period, this way you can still plan to get ROM during this short span of period. Because when she returns, ICA may/may not approve her to return, even on social visit, or holidaying.

I see no problem on your criteria, since you are still working. But faking a education certificate is a no-no. Good luck. :eek:

thanks bor Rof...

she is holding WORK PERMIT now, the agent fake the diploma to electronics one, and destroy the original. meaning no more ORIGINAL ( mechanical ) or even the Fake original diploma in electronics which the agent submit to MOM, because all the document is taken by the agent.

if she return back after her contract end, ICA may not approve on her return even on social visit or holidaying ?
why is it so ? why can not return back ?
thanks.

Durex_69

02-08-2006, 10:47 PM

Look forward you to become one of our Foreigner Wife's club. :D

Is this an invitation ??

I'm more than glad to join the club, but think I've to get ROM with her 1st. Else become Foreigner GF's Club liao leh. :D

Rof|maoxz

03-08-2006, 06:41 PM

Is this an invitation ??

I'm more than glad to join the club, but think I've to get ROM with her 1st. Else become Foreigner GF's Club liao leh. :D

Nvm...juz settle whatever you need to do. Hope to see you soon. ;)

Rof|maoxz

03-08-2006, 06:44 PM

if she return back after her contract end, ICA may not approve on her return even on social visit or holidaying ? why is it so ? why can not return back ? thanks.

It's up to ICA's discretion as whether to allow her to rtn even is to holiday. Not as easy as one's thinking. Esp. if the lady is < 30 yo. :)

bikee69

03-08-2006, 10:55 PM

1 big "discount" is that she didn't even managed to complete her Primary School Education. Think its gonna be tough when applying for SPR. :(

Dun need to worry about the education lah. I put my wife education level as NIL when I applying her SPR and she get her SPR after 2 mths of waiting :D

Rof|maoxz

04-08-2006, 10:34 AM

Dun need to worry about the education lah. I put my wife education level as NIL when I applying her SPR and she get her SPR after 2 mths of waiting :D

Juz declare truefully to the authorities, dun try to hide, and dun over declare also. :D

Durex_69

04-08-2006, 06:26 PM

Juz declare truefully to the authorities, dun try to hide, and dun over declare also. :D

It never pay to cheat, esp the "Garment" ... once found out, sure die.

On her LTSVP Extension Form, I also fill up as "NIL" for her Ed Lvl. Didn't encounter any problem.

Will declare very truefully, as adviced [or advised huh ? :p ] by fellow brothers here.

Thank you very much.

Rof|maoxz

04-08-2006, 07:17 PM

It never pay to cheat, esp the "Garment" ... once found out, sure die.

On her LTSVP Extension Form, I also fill up as "NIL" for her Ed Lvl. Didn't encounter any problem.

Will declare very truefully, as adviced [or advised huh ? :p ] by fellow brothers here.

Thank you very much.

Advice is a verb, so no 'ed'.

HSB2000

05-08-2006, 11:48 AM

Rof|maoxz

05-08-2006, 02:27 PM

Hi Bros,

need advice here, I apply online social visit pass for my finacee but it was rejected. I was then told to submit appeal letter, form 14 and form 39. To my understand, form 39 is the LOI (Letter of Introduction). Not sure what should I write for LOI??? though for my appeal letter, all info should already stated there, why still the need of LOI??? Thanks : )

Applying for Visa Application requires the From 14 and the LOI, appeal letter is another written letter by you to the ICA office for reconsideration for the rejection, plus any additional documents.

HSB2000

05-08-2006, 08:01 PM

noted, thanks : )

-Potato-

12-08-2006, 02:04 PM

Rof|maoxz

15-08-2006, 10:08 PM

Hi all,
my situation like this,
I am Malaysian with SPR since 2000 Jan.I intending to marry my gf a Thai citizen on next year.

For ROM at SPORE,does the witness must be her family or relative?

as i am SPR and my future wife is non SPR,i not qualified for the resale flat from HDB.if we stay in Malaysia,can i apply LTSVP and then apply PR for her,even or maybe we not stay in Singapore?

my income for past 2 year 30k per year,and been paying tax for 2 year past.

thx

For ROM, you can invite any frds, relatives or family members to be your witnesses as long they are above 21 years of age, SPR or Singapore Citizens.

Both of you are only entitled the Non-Citizen Spouse Scheme (NCS) Just make sure that your spouse has at least holding a social visit pass of at least 3 months and you are at least 35 years old, or You must be at least 21 if your spouse is holding a social visit pass of at least 6 months.

Link~
http://www.hdb.gov.sg/fi10/fi10201p.nsf/WPDis/Buying%20A%20Resale%20FlatEligibility%20Scheme%20-%20Non-Citizen%20Spouse%20Scheme%20(NCS)?OpenDocument&SubMenu=Eligibility_Schemes

If you do not have a local residential address to fill in the application form, chances are they won't be granting her the LTSVP since this pass is for her to stay long term in singapore, and not in malaysia. Hope this helps. :)

plman2002

15-08-2006, 10:20 PM

Link~
http://www.hdb.gov.sg/fi10/fi10201p.nsf/WPDis/Buying%20A%20Resale%20FlatEligibility%20Scheme%20-%20Non-Citizen%20Spouse%20Scheme%20(NCS)?OpenDocument&SubMenu=Eligibility_Schemes:)

Since when u become property agent of hdb staff. kekeke

-Potato-

15-08-2006, 10:24 PM

I cant buy,since only for singapore citizen.

btw,any malaysian marry thai and how do you apply and what procedure to do for her to stay in malaysia?

-Potato-

15-08-2006, 10:27 PM

i have local adress,and if i apply LTSVP and PR together,can she go back Thailand while waiting for the PR?
Does the PR application require her to be in Singapore at that period?
thanks

Rof|maoxz

15-08-2006, 10:28 PM

I cant buy, since only for singapore citizen.

btw, any malaysian marry thai and how do you apply and what procedure to do for her to stay in malaysia?

Oops, mistake, didn't see properly. You can only rent.

Rof|maoxz

15-08-2006, 10:32 PM

i have local adress,and if i apply LTSVP and PR together,can she go back Thailand while waiting for the PR?
Does the PR application require her to be in Singapore at that period?

thanks

If you are in the interim period of awaiting the status of the LTSVP application, I suggest her to stay in singapore to wait for the latest development and complete the formalities if it is successful. It takes abt 4 weeks to know the outcome.

For PR application, she can go aboard, as long she has the valid mulitple visa to return back.

Durex_69

16-08-2006, 12:29 AM

Sorry to interupt ...

Today, I heard from my girl that one of her friend went to extend her "PDMM" SVP and was asked to produced proof of savings > RMB400k before ICA renew her SVP.

Any brother here can comfirm this "rumous" ?

Sincerely hope this is no such ruling, else :(

rickytay

16-08-2006, 12:58 AM

Dear all brothers,

I am getting confuse on this issue right now.

Currently working in china and intend to marry my chinese gf.

I am thinking of ROM in HK instead of china and singapore. But does the sg authority recognise it? Problem is because I find it a hassel to go back to sg just for the ROM.

Questions;

1) if ROM in HK, how do I or can I get it to be certify in sg?

2) i am current based here in china with a hk company(actually no intention to go back sg as well) but i would still wants to apply for a social visit pass and PR for her, Will it be possible? if yes, how do I go about doing it?

3) just a thought(may sound stupid, but i really want to find out.) IF she get a PR or citizenship in sg, and at the same time, I get a PR or citizenship of another country(maybe Oz or HK), i am thinking, can i give up my sg citizenship, and withdraw the CPF money. THEN, since my wife is a sg PR or citizen, I apply for a sg PR?

Please don't zap me if i sound crazy or stupid. Just wanna to find out.

Please advice.

Thank you,

Regards
Ricky

naemlo

16-08-2006, 09:52 AM

I am thinking of ROM in HK instead of china and singapore. But does the sg authority recognise it?

As long as the local govt recognise the marriage paper, SG will recognise it.

1) if ROM in HK, how do I or can I get it to be certify in SG?

Wat is the reason u want to certify it? There is no need to certify the marriage cert, just as long as u change your marriage status to "married" in SG. U worry next time, u pass away, your wife cannot claim your asset?? :D

if yes, how do I go about doing it?

Make it easy, come to SG n apply.

3) I apply for a sg PR?

I doubt so, once u give up your citizen n withdraw your CPF, the govt will not stupid to allow u to come back as PR.

Rof|maoxz

16-08-2006, 01:45 PM

naemlo

16-08-2006, 01:49 PM

Hmm.... RMB 400K is abt SIN $80K, so much meh? RMB 50K I may believe....

A normal S'porean also difficult to have 50kSGD in bank, talk abt normal PRC. :D

Oi tnn...

Rof|maoxz

16-08-2006, 02:29 PM

A normal S'porean also difficult to have 50kSGD in bank, talk abt normal PRC. :D

Oi tnn...

That's why in the 'How Old Are you' thread, I say I live off you mah. :D

-Potato-

16-08-2006, 07:18 PM

If you are in the interim period of awaiting the status of the LTSVP application, I suggest her to stay in singapore to wait for the latest development and complete the formalities if it is successful. It takes abt 4 weeks to know the outcome.

For PR application, she can go aboard, as long she has the valid mulitple visa to return back.
while waiting when apply the LTSVP,what visa they give?coz when she come in i think they willgive 14 days only,and when apply the LTSVP,need wait 4 weeks...
if not approve LTSVP,so get STSVP?:)
THANKS

Rof|maoxz

16-08-2006, 07:28 PM

while waiting when apply the LTSVP, what visa they give?coz when she come in i think they willgive 14 days only, and when apply the LTSVP,need wait 4 weeks...

if not approve LTSVP, so get STSVP? :)

THANKS

While waiting for the LTSVP, ICA will grant her one month temp visa for the result of the application. If successful, den they will issue her the social visa pass card after completion of medical examination.

If the LTSVP is unsuccessful, you have some time to appeal before she go back to her country.

Durex_69

17-08-2006, 09:15 PM

Read the below from another forum dated 16 Aug 06 and gave me a cold sweat till now ...

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刚刚去办了签证回来，确实有些出乎意料。

半年前去续签时，问我要结婚公证，当时实在没法记得这份公证是留在国内还是带来放在住处了，只好含含糊糊地回答应该是留在国内，对方很客气的说下次记得让家里寄过来，还告诉我要递上结婚或是离婚公证是防止有假陪读妈妈来混水摸鱼。

今早去了，交上孩子的出生公证和结婚公证后又被告知，公证需要外交部的认证和新加坡领事馆的认证。再问详细些说要到北京去做认证，我的天！我的公证全都是1999年做的，现在才让去认证，真不知该找哪一家。

还需要的是，银行存款证明和孩子他爸的工作职务薪水证明。

有一份英文原件，是移民厅官员给的，给大家参考：

1. Children' Official Birth Certificate;

2. Documentary proof of finacial ability in the form of bank statement,fixed deposit accounts or saving accounts (Past 1-year tansaction)(If the original bank book is not produced on application,a full-notarised copy of every page of the bank will be required.)

3. Applicant's Official Marriage Certificate.

4. Letter of Employment of spouse or self,and

5. Full notarized Birth Certificate and Marriage Certificate.

Full notarization refers to a 3-step process whereby a certificate would first be translated and notarized by the local notary public,followed by verification of the notary public's signature by their local the foreign affirs officers and a re-verification of the chinese FAO's signature by our Mission overseas.
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Any brother care to comment ? Sincerely hope this is not true. :(

Luckster

18-08-2006, 04:38 PM

Dear all brothers,

I am thinking of ROM in HK instead of china and singapore. But does the sg authority recognise it? Problem is because I find it a hassel to go back to sg just for the ROM.

Yeah man, same here, have to pre book the time and stuff, very leh cheh.Questions;

1) if ROM in HK, how do I or can I get it to be certify in sg?

No need to certify, you just need to declare.

2) i am current based here in china with a hk company(actually no intention to go back sg as well) but i would still wants to apply for a social visit pass and PR for her, Will it be possible? if yes, how do I go about doing it?
For social visit pass, there are embassies, you just go there fill up the form and pay about 100yuan. The guangzhou consulate is easy to get to, just take the train to the west station and go to citic building.

You can get a 5 week visit pass, takes about 3-7days to process. The one in hongkong I am not sure
3) just a thought(may sound stupid, but i really want to find out.) IF she get a PR or citizenship in sg, and at the same time, I get a PR or citizenship of another country(maybe Oz or HK), i am thinking, can i give up my sg citizenship, and withdraw the CPF money. THEN, since my wife is a sg PR or citizen, I apply for a sg PR?
Only if you are a citizen then you can give up singapore citizenship, it might be better to just get PR in the other country and maintain citizenship in singapore till later. Australia PR and citizenship is almost the same thing except every 5 years must renew PR.

rickytay

18-08-2006, 04:59 PM

For social visit pass, there are embassies, you just go there fill up the form and pay about 100yuan. The guangzhou consulate is easy to get to, just take the train to the west station and go to citic building.

You can get a 5 week visit pass, takes about 3-7days to process. The one in hongkong I am not sure

Thanks Brother!!!

Try not to go HK and apply the sg visa. The last time I spoken to them on the phone, even if you sponsor them for the visa, still need to pay 1K or 1.5K security bond.

Anyway I have checked with GZ consulate and they say that if your gf/wife is a VISA/MASTER CC holder, she can apply for a 1 or 2 yrs multi entry visa. But she must be the main card holder and not a sup-card holder.

Luckster

18-08-2006, 08:49 PM

Credit card holder, so is that hard to get?

I mean normal pay is about 2000 to 4000 yuan, with that can allow one to obtain a card or not? -

Rof|maoxz

18-08-2006, 08:49 PM

Read the below from another forum dated 16 Aug 06 and gave me a cold sweat till now ...

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1. Children' Official Birth Certificate;

2. Documentary proof of finacial ability in the form of bank statement,fixed deposit accounts or saving accounts (Past 1-year tansaction)(If the original bank book is not produced on application,a full-notarised copy of every page of the bank will be required.)

3. Applicant's Official Marriage Certificate.

4. Letter of Employment of spouse or self,and

5. Full notarized Birth Certificate and Marriage Certificate.

Full notarization refers to a 3-step process whereby a certificate would first be translated and notarized by the local notary public,followed by verification of the notary public's signature by their local the foreign affirs officers and a re-verification of the chinese FAO's signature by our Mission overseas.
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Any brother care to comment ? Sincerely hope this is not true.

Is this the extension for the LTSVP for spouse or for PDMM? :rolleyes: Surely marriage certificate is required for the extension for LTSVP of spouse every 6 mths or 1 year.

I heard there is a change in ruling for the extension and the application for PDMM somewhere in 1st quarter of 2007. Stay tune. ;)