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marconi57
26-06-2013, 06:09 PM
Super ultimate pissed off today...arranged to meet a Massage+FJ girl at 4p.m.

I reached at 4.05pm, called her.

She: "Huh? I thought 4.30pm?"
Me: "No, I arranged to meet you at 4pm, you check."
She: "ohhh ok..you wait for me awhile, roughly 4.30pm"
Me: "Ok"

Lan lan, and so I waited til 5.05pm, still no news, and I msg her I have waited for 1 hour, I will be leaving.

Ard 5.15, she still can msg me "Are you here already?"I was like wtf? Don't even know the situation!

So i gentle-manly msg her what had happened, how come I wait 1 hour.

At least she had the decency to call me and apologise, say she mixed up me with another guy who booked her at 4.30pm. She met the 4.30pm guy during my appointment. Any bro want to admit haha?

I kindly told her that she should check the number first next time zzz. She asked if meeting again, I said see how and bye to her.

(Actually I hear already even more pissed, supposed to be a 1 hour service, massage+fj, how to finish in 0.5 hour? Even if she don't short change me, the bro at 4.30pm will have to wait dunnoe how long? She should meet the bro at 5pm and not 4.30pm! Seriously dunnoe how they plan their appointments.)

Just want to rant and cool down my 'fire'. Next time bros maybe informing them you are on the way or something to avoid such problem.

Thanks.

ernie2369
26-06-2013, 06:59 PM
Hi Bro,

You are not the first to meet this. I met another FL, Wendy from SGSexcapades.net recently.

Arrange to meet her, but when I meet at her place, another bro also arrived there for her. Turns out she double booked. But since I come first, so I go in first

Becos got another bro wiating, throughout the svc, she kept hurrying me. Never apologised but say the other one arrived early. Where got people arrive one hour early? Also, website say can fingering and french. Turns out cannot finger but must use condom, also cannot french. Fedup.

I think nowadays a lot of FL book 1 hour means 30 min, then they can quickly turnover and earn twice as much.

We must make more noise else the FLs think we S'porean men are easy carrotcake.

But this forum not the best place cos OKTs post so often our threads kenna bump down

petelim
26-06-2013, 10:05 PM
My experience is that I only give the FL a 15 to 20 min window after the appointed time. I experienced a FL whom I book at 5.00 pm. I arrived at her area at 4.50 pm, sms her and waited. By 5.15 pm if she does not respond, I will send her an SMS saying that" since you are so busy, I am leaving now; book you some other day, thank you." Even if she call/SMS me after that I will ignore her calls. Her no is then deleted from my fon.

marconi57
27-06-2013, 12:19 AM
Hi Bro,

You are not the first to meet this. I met another FL, Wendy from SGSexcapades.net recently.

Arrange to meet her, but when I meet at her place, another bro also arrived there for her. Turns out she double booked. But since I come first, so I go in first

Becos got another bro wiating, throughout the svc, she kept hurrying me. Never apologised but say the other one arrived early. Where got people arrive one hour early? Also, website say can fingering and french. Turns out cannot finger but must use condom, also cannot french. Fedup.

I think nowadays a lot of FL book 1 hour means 30 min, then they can quickly turnover and earn twice as much.

We must make more noise else the FLs think we S'porean men are easy carrotcake.

But this forum not the best place cos OKTs post so often our threads kenna bump down

If the svs hurry hurry i rather go off and book her another day liao.

jasonzzz
27-06-2013, 12:41 AM
today i also sianzzz......However partially my fault... Cos I'm late.... during our session, her phone keep ringing, SMS keep coming in... Dam spoil mood....

marconi57
27-06-2013, 01:44 AM
My experience is that I only give the FL a 15 to 20 min window after the appointed time. I experienced a FL whom I book at 5.00 pm. I arrived at her area at 4.50 pm, sms her and waited. By 5.15 pm if she does not respond, I will send her an SMS saying that" since you are so busy, I am leaving now; book you some other day, thank you." Even if she call/SMS me after that I will ignore her calls. Her no is then deleted from my fon.

If got valid reason ok lah, but if wait too long i guess they deserve it..

justl00king
27-06-2013, 03:50 AM
My experience is that I only give the FL a 15 to 20 min window after the appointed time. I experienced a FL whom I book at 5.00 pm. I arrived at her area at 4.50 pm, sms her and waited. By 5.15 pm if she does not respond, I will send her an SMS saying that" since you are so busy, I am leaving now; book you some other day, thank you." Even if she call/SMS me after that I will ignore her calls. Her no is then deleted from my fon.Agreed, max waiting time for me 15-20minutes. Unless she informs and postpone timing, I will just leave and remove her from any rtf.

Dun let them take you for granted, our time is precious too. :cool:

sgguy34
27-06-2013, 11:20 AM
Bro,

post FR lor, dont worry, even if the OKT push it away, those careful brothers will still see and skip this kind of FL one.

KhunThai73
27-06-2013, 11:49 AM
bro marconi57,
if you noticed nowadays there are about 4-5 ''stables'' but the girls are roughly the same bunch, either using another name, or even different numbers (they are getting smart), however its the same person

And then they start advertising under another "'OKT" he/shd will put new arrvials but actually this girl already came here more than 1mth, maybe advertised under another before now business slow liao, so try another advertiser

From wat i understand from some girls, there are alot of things going at the background very complicated wan..........
Nowadays the so call OKT is a one stop service or rather let me put it bluntly, a cyndicate, they will help the girls do visas to get here, either short term or long term, help them find condos/appt where they can open their business, and of cos collect advertisement fees for them to put up in websites

All these are charged at premium cost to the girls, whom in turn has to maximised their time here to earn $$
I am not siding the girls either, the are greedy in general, heard of how easy to make $$ here thats why they come
And it is true to a certain extent, every girl i noe of, after 1 time in Singapore, always DREAM of coming here again to make fast money

If you noticed, nowadays the girls are not longer in just Geylang or Balestier, if you checked with them, they might tell you, Jurong, Serangoon, East Coast etc etc, i even came across 1 at River Valley location

Not sure when will happen, but i am sure after the Dengue and Haze thingy, something will be done.....just wait and see

Meanwhile, my personal opinion is that north of the border is a better place to chiong

sporeknight76
27-06-2013, 12:14 PM
So far, i hav kena those late FL too. But normally those hav their own rm. I hav boycott those wif own rm. One thing is hygiene, another time punctuality is a challenge.

Normally those FL i mt up, i will call her in the morning to confirm appt. 2nd time is b4 i set off, i will call her to confirm she is ready by watever time i promise her. 3rd time is when i reach. But still, still hav to wait abt 10-15min for them to arrive, dress up, makeup etc....

marconi57
27-06-2013, 02:05 PM
bro marconi57,
if you noticed nowadays there are about 4-5 ''stables'' but the girls are roughly the same bunch, either using another name, or even different numbers (they are getting smart), however its the same person

And then they start advertising under another "'OKT" he/shd will put new arrvials but actually this girl already came here more than 1mth, maybe advertised under another before now business slow liao, so try another advertiser

From wat i understand from some girls, there are alot of things going at the background very complicated wan..........
Nowadays the so call OKT is a one stop service or rather let me put it bluntly, a cyndicate, they will help the girls do visas to get here, either short term or long term, help them find condos/appt where they can open their business, and of cos collect advertisement fees for them to put up in websites

All these are charged at premium cost to the girls, whom in turn has to maximised their time here to earn $$
I am not siding the girls either, the are greedy in general, heard of how easy to make $$ here thats why they come
And it is true to a certain extent, every girl i noe of, after 1 time in Singapore, always DREAM of coming here again to make fast money

If you noticed, nowadays the girls are not longer in just Geylang or Balestier, if you checked with them, they might tell you, Jurong, Serangoon, East Coast etc etc, i even came across 1 at River Valley location

Not sure when will happen, but i am sure after the Dengue and Haze thingy, something will be done.....just wait and see

Meanwhile, my personal opinion is that north of the border is a better place to chiong

My sentiments. I am quite surprised by some of the locations as well, now no longer limited to area G, B, L haha.

Yea understand they need to maximise earnings, but sometimes really too guofen.

even if plan 1 hr swee swee for 1 cust, 1 day 5-8 cust, $100, I month easily 10k-16k. (weekends not included somemore) 1 hr per customer enough time for them to wash up, get ready, or even a little break too. they also human need to rest, cannot 30 min 1 cust also not robot..


So far, i hav kena those late FL too. But normally those hav their own rm. I hav boycott those wif own rm. One thing is hygiene, another time punctuality is a challenge.

Normally those FL i mt up, i will call her in the morning to confirm appt. 2nd time is b4 i set off, i will call her to confirm she is ready by watever time i promise her. 3rd time is when i reach. But still, still hav to wait abt 10-15min for them to arrive, dress up, makeup etc....

Good strategy..we can learn frm u

sgguy34
27-06-2013, 03:41 PM
name and shame
if service really fuk up, call AV. send them back forever! need AV number, pm me! :D

Mr_don_juan
27-06-2013, 04:06 PM
Agreed, max waiting time for me 15-20minutes. Unless she informs and postpone timing, I will just leave and remove her from any rtf.

Dun let them take you for granted, our time is precious too. :cool:

Yeah lolz.. time is precious sometimes i also kanna made to wait for 1-2 hour cos she go shopping or some story. or forget appointment never inform. For me wait never mind lohz i just ensure i drink enough beer to give maximum commando poking if i dulan.. counter every moves


even if plan 1 hr swee swee for 1 cust, 1 day 5-8 cust, $100, I month easily 10k-16k. (weekends not included somemore) 1 hr per customer enough time for them to wash up, get ready, or even a little break too. they also human need to rest, cannot 30 min 1 cust also not robot..
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Not exactly that much, there only limited / countable amount of samsters who chiong. Fresh one even ang pai can only last maybe 3 mths after that the business not so fantasic as fresh one unless one rich bro upz mountain for her.

name and shame
if service really fuk up, call AV. send them back forever! need AV number, pm me! :D

Duhzz. if service fuk up then find new one loh, most cases if you know to act along with them every session will be just perfect :D

markkeef
29-06-2013, 12:22 PM
After reading this, I realize my experience is not unique.

This is my previous account of another fly aeroplane FL.

Yesterday booked Nuri for today. She smsed me her address and I confirm with her, so I thought ok liao.

This afternoon went to look for her at the right time, but she fly me aeroplane. I waited for her for 20min outside the condo and called her many times, but she didn't answer at all. Sometimes the phone was engaged so I know she's in. Lucky I got backup near same area G so went there instead.

Very poor service attitude. Bros beware. Don't say you have not been warned. Nowadays FL's service attitude drop like a stone in sea.

At least TS girl got reply him. Mine didn't even pick up the phone.

GN007SG
30-06-2013, 01:27 PM
next time if she make u leave in 30min then u pay half price lor lol...

greatday70
30-06-2013, 02:25 PM
Actually after reading those bro thread they are so desperate of the time not to wait 15 to 20 min me subjection to them either they can "bao" the girl so when urge can go to them they cannot reject you as you are paying for their living.

Or you lan lan have to follow their service as so call FL is their own time free time of service they not work for you or the OKT we cannot control their timing or service even the OKT saying their service got what kind of sevice in the end is also up to the girl want provide you the service or not we cannot force. I know some of the bro reading this might angry of what but this is the fact.

Mr_don_juan
30-06-2013, 03:54 PM
Actually after reading those bro thread they are so desperate of the time not to wait 15 to 20 min me subjection to them either they can "bao" the girl so when urge can go to them they cannot reject you as you are paying for their living.

Or you lan lan have to follow their service as so call FL is their own time free time of service they not work for you or the OKT we cannot control their timing or service even the OKT saying their service got what kind of sevice in the end is also up to the girl want provide you the service or not we cannot force. I know some of the bro reading this might angry of what but this is the fact.

Just because wait 15 - 20 mins bao girl. I think is miscommunication lohz, maybe next time double confirm with girl on timing before going down arbo waste time waste trip. Of cos bros will get angry cos precious time gone.. same same with FLs, they also don't like to be aeroplane.

Though is freelance own time own target.. still is a part of business with the real world not some cyberspace dates. Basic respect and trust is still needed.. if one bro get aeroplance or bad service sibei dulan, he still can get his friends to aeroplane or boycott the girl.. is best not to create trouble because in life is better to have a friend than one foe. :D

greatday70
30-06-2013, 04:26 PM
Just because wait 15 - 20 mins bao girl. I think is miscommunication lohz, maybe next time double confirm with girl on timing before going down arbo waste time waste trip. Of cos bros will get angry cos precious time gone.. same same with FLs, they also don't like to be aeroplane.

Though is freelance own time own target.. still is a part of business with the real world not some cyberspace dates. Basic respect and trust is still needed.. if one bro get aeroplance or bad service sibei dulan, he still can get his friends to aeroplane or boycott the girl.. is best not to create trouble because in life is better to have a friend than one foe. :D

Bro this is not miscommunication if bro find that 15 to 20 min precious time for them that what my subjection to them. If cannot then just follow their FL time as you say FL own time own target so is we match their time notthey match our time yes although is a business but they are doing their own business and they not work for you which cannot control their timing

AlexisOng85
30-06-2013, 04:49 PM
Well said bro don juan totally agree with you that both customer and service provider should respect agreed time and if any changes let the other party know so all dont waste time.
Bro greatday70 - yes FL manage their own time but if they short change their customers then bros will be wary to book them and they suffer less business.
That is why we bros should share FR to help each other identify the bad ones.
Fortunately I come across many FL that do keep their appointment time:)

Mr_don_juan
01-07-2013, 04:02 AM
Bro this is not miscommunication if bro find that 15 to 20 min precious time for them that what my subjection to them. If cannot then just follow their FL time as you say FL own time own target so is we match their time notthey match our time yes although is a business but they are doing their own business and they not work for you which cannot control their timing

Normally i book FL at my timing sometimes i directly ask for first slot morning if cannot then i will fix other day. If after code red first slot i upz the price or tips. I don't go for FL choice of time especially if i turn regular.

And i quite strict with RTF that turning non-sexual means just hug and chat or go on dates. yes if you like the girl.. sometimes she give you what timing also accept, here pain there pain also nevermind. no need bonk still got money take lagi best. Sometimes like the girl so much everything also okay. this type of customer is first choice piority for any FLs lohz. Sometimes i become the bad guy / not first choice as usual as i just want to have fun rtf bonk nia really not into dates type of customer ;)

Well said bro don juan totally agree with you that both customer and service provider should respect agreed time and if any changes let the other party know so all dont waste time.
Bro greatday70 - yes FL manage their own time but if they short change their customers then bros will be wary to book them and they suffer less business.
That is why we bros should share FR to help each other identify the bad ones.
Fortunately I come across many FL that do keep their appointment time:)

Yeah lolz respect very important cos we all have our time to play enjoy or make money so when we fix appointment always try to be punctual and expect fls to keep their timing. if bad we pay and find better ones, if good we can give some tips or rtf. But never let others control our life or shortchange us because we are the masters of our own life. Business or not we still in control of our decision to find her again :D

justl00king
01-07-2013, 07:54 AM
Yeah lolz.. time is precious sometimes i also kanna made to wait for 1-2 hour cos she go shopping or some story. or forget appointment never inform. For me wait never mind lohz i just ensure i drink enough beer to give maximum commando poking if i dulan.. counter every moves

Nice bro, give her a good and proper with some energizer pumping till her pussy sore! :eek:

She will remember you for sure. :p

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