French Kissing - will it lead to STD?

[sequence79]

how risky is french kissing with TN gals?

i alwayzz restrain myself from it, but very giaan to do it.

[thaivisitor]

French Kissing should only be done with girls who are french, not PRCs.

For PRCs, you should use Dragon Kissing, even hotter, got fire come out somemore.

thaivisitor :cool:

[jon2000sg]

should be okay as long as no blood transmission exchange lo...

[tittyhawk]

Haha...I like bro TV's response...
Anyway, french kissing involves deep exchange of tongue and lips, basically thye whole works of mouth to mouth exercise....if there is a ucler or a slight cut in either party, and that the person carries STD, then the chance of infection is there.
Otherwise, enjoy the kissing...

[dt3305]

Simple, ask the gal " Got ucler boh?", "Git bleeding gum boh?" then put on condom and wrap around tip of your tongue and french her...

but seriously, kissing is ok but deep kissing(Frenching), tongue lashing and fighting is safe as along as both parties have no ulcer and bleeding inside mouth...and don't brush your teeth hard hard then french...hard brushing will damage the linings and cause small cuts which you can't really see or feel...

[Big Sexy]

1. the risk has been answered....

2. how sure are you the TN gal want to kiss you???? there are load of them who do not do kissing.. only a small minority does allow kissing..

3. and why do u want to french kiss someone u only want to bonk? i always keep the kissing part to someone i really love.

how risky is french kissing with TN gals?
i alwayzz restrain myself from it, but very giaan to do it.

[Huluman]

how risky is french kissing with TN gals?
i alwayzz restrain myself from it, but very giaan to do it.

VERY FCARKIN RISKY

[thaivisitor]

Anyway, french kissing involves deep exchange of tongue and lips, basically thye whole works of mouth to mouth exercise....if there is a ucler or a slight cut in either party, and that the person carries STD, then the chance of infection is there.


but seriously, kissing is ok but deep kissing(Frenching), tongue lashing and fighting is safe as along as both parties have no ulcer and bleeding inside mouth...and don't brush your teeth hard hard then french...hard brushing will damage the linings and cause small cuts which you can't really see or feel...
Bros, correct me if I'm wrong. The guy will only get STD if he's the one who has a cut or ulcer in his mouth and the girl has STD, and vice versa as STD can also be spread thru saliva.

So, Generally, if the guy's mouth is OK, he'll be quite safe.

But bro sequence79, even if your mouth is clear of any cuts or ulcers, make sure the girl don't bite your tongue while frenching hor? Who knows she may have STD and purposely want to pass to you. kekekekekekeke

Also, make sure the girl don't have braces like "jaws". KNN don't while frenching, she "massacre" your whole mouth leh... kekekekekekekeke

thaivisitor :D

[Lowell]

STD. possible. especially if have cuts and sores.

HIV. theoretically possible, however new studies seem to show that saliva neutralises the HIV virus.

[Big Sexy]

huh?? :confused: source please???

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HIV. theoretically possible, however new studies seem to show that saliva neutralises the HIV virus.

[tokkon1]

huh?? :confused: source please???

From the Yahoo Internet Health Page on How People Can Get HIV infection:

"The virus lives easily in some body fluids and barely survives in others. Blood, semen (cum), or vaginal fluids carry the virus in quantities that can cause infection. Only very small amounts of HIV (too little to spread the virus) are found in body fluids such as saliva. If infected blood, semen, or vaginal fluids enter your body, you may get HIV.

Some people get HIV the first time they get these infected fluids in their bodies. For unknown reasons, other people are exposed to HIV but don't get infected. But if they are exposed again, they could get infected too."

[thaivisitor]

Only very small amounts of HIV (too little to spread the virus) are found in body fluids such as saliva

1. So it doesn't says that saliva neutralizes the HIV virus.

2. Did they say how much (or little) amount in saliva?

I mean, half a drop or blood could contain sufficient amount of virus to spread and half a drop of saliva could contain insufficient amount.

So knowing the quantity is important because if if half a drop of saliva is insufficient, a large quantity of saliva may be sufficient, thus frenching with large volume of saliva exchanging may then be dangerous, right?

If I'm not wrong, there were cases of HIV being transmitted thru BBBJ although the figures are extremely low.

thaivisitor

[sammyboyfor]

So, Generally, if the guy's mouth is OK, he'll be quite safe.


Syphilis can be transmitted when kissing via the mucous membranes of the mouth
http://www.sexinfo101.com/st_syphilis.shtml
http://www.mamashealth.com/syphilis.asp

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Transmission

Syphilis is transmitted during kissing, anal and vaginal intercourse, and oral-genital contact. The bacteria can enter the body by penetrating the mucous membranes or any small cracks in the skin. Pregnant women with syphilis can infect their fetus, so it is best to quickly deal with this infection if contracted during pregnancy. Syphilis does not survive long outside the body and therefore non-sexual transmission of the disease is uncommon.

[Big Sexy]

and which part of the article suggest that saliva neutralises the HIV virus.??? :confused:


From the Yahoo Internet Health Page on How People Can Get HIV infection:

[Lonev]

how risky is french kissing with TN gals?

i alwayzz restrain myself from it, but very giaan to do it.

if u doing truly french kiss with her, you might get a broken heart...
and that is worse than any STD... ;)

hmm, i dun think i am doing any good here... :P

gud luck 2 u...

ps: hepatitis, herpes, syphilis, gonorrhea... maybe is awaiting...

[Lowell]

An article in the Journal of the American Dental Association (Vol. 118, June 1989) concludes that "saliva from healthy men, women, and children contained a factor that inhibits HIV-1 infection of lymphocytes [white blood cells]. This finding is consistent with the documented low risk of oral transmission of this virus and the infrequent isolation of HIV-1 from human oral fluids."

In their study, researchers took samples of saliva from uninfected people - nine women, nine men, and seven children - and from nine HIV-positive men. Each sample of saliva was incubated with concentrated HIV-1 for one hour, after which time lymphocytes were added to the saliva-virus mixture for another hour. The researchers then tested the mixtures three times, starting on the eighth day, looking for signs that the virus was replicating.

The saliva from all the women and children and from the majority of men completely protected the lymphocytes against infection with the virus. Three uninfected and two HIV-positive men had "substantial, partial inhibitory activity." Even when the saliva was diluted by a factor of 20 to 1, 50% of its inhibitory activity remained.

Among the authors' conclusions is a statement that has major implications for therapy: "The inhibitory activity displays an important characteristic of a pharmacological agent." This suggests that the as-yet unknown protective factor - probably a large protein molecule - may offer an important clue to the identification of a "natural, nontoxic [antiviral] product."

If identified, such a molecule could form the basis of an agent capable of protecting cells against HIV, and it would offer some insight into the mechanism by which the virus is neutralized, says Dr. Phillip Fox, chief of the clinical investigative section that conducted the research. To that end, four studies have been funded to continue the work.

"Based on what we've seen and the number of years of experience, there is enough background to see that [oral activity] isn't a route of transmission," Fox says. "To my mind it makes sense that this fluid - saliva - which definately contains the virus, is not transmitting it."

Because semen, saliva, and breast milk have all been shown to contain inconsistent, low levels of HIV, it seems sensible to look at the more clear-cut instance of uninfected babies being nursed by HIV-positive mothers, where the only risk factor was the baby's nursing.

Pediatric immunologist James Oleske of Newark, N.J., who was one of the first to identify AIDS in children, has criticized the CDC's recommentation that HIV-positive women not breast-feed their infants. "This is a typical overresponse," he says. "Yes, factors in saliva seem to inhibit HIV, which is just one more bit of evidence that you don't get AIDS through oral exposure very frequently."

Oleske knows of two European cases in which babies who became infected by transfusion after birth and were being breast-fed have infected their mothers. In both instances the children were teething and the mothers' nipples were cracked, creating a blood-blood rather than simply oral route of transmission.

http://www.gaylib.com/aids/aids22.htm

[Big Sexy]

hmm.. can it be...

saliva is less likely to cause infection than blood or other body fluids. = true.

saliva neutralises the HIV virus = to a certain degree..yes. but to say it in general ...is misleading.

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In those saliva samples in which virus can be found, the concentration of virus is much lower than in blood, semen, or the already low concentrations found in vaginal or cervical secretions.

The low concentration of virus in saliva may mean that saliva is less likely to cause infection than blood or other body fluids.
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http://thailabonline.com/myforum/show.asp?id=486&fid=23&tid=0

http://www.thebody.com/oralsex.html



http://www.gaylib.com/aids/aids22.htm

[tittyhawk]

hmm.. can it be...
saliva is less likely to cause infection than blood or other body fluids. = true.
saliva neutralises the HIV virus = to a certain degree..yes. but to say it in general ...is misleading.
http://thailabonline.com/myforum/show.asp?id=486&fid=23&tid=0
http://www.thebody.com/oralsex.html
Yea I've read some article that saliva contains something to neturalize the virus, but it aint proven yet....bro BS u very resourceful and up-to-date.

[tokkon1]

Yea I've read some article that saliva contains something to neturalize the virus, but it aint proven yet....bro BS u very resourceful and up-to-date.

I think the key 'word' here is INHIBIT rather than NEUTRALIZE. Saliva is nature's panacea to heal wounds and combat malignant bacteria, germs and other harmful foreign bodies. That's why animals lick their wounds to heal them.

[tittyhawk]

I think the key 'word' here is INHIBIT rather than NEUTRALIZE. Saliva is nature's panacea to heal wounds and combat malignant bacteria, germs and other harmful foreign bodies. That's why animals lick their wounds to heal them.
Yes, u got the right vocab...thanks bro.

[tokkon1]

Yes, u got the right vocab...thanks bro.

Hey bro...u gg to change yr nick to 'Anti-Christ'..keke...hint..yr rep points. :D