Anyone knows the process for WL to re-enter singapore?

[lucyemelda88]

Hi bros,

Intending to bring back one of my favourites in geylang. Anyone knows the process of applying or sponsor visa for re-entry? Appreciate your info.

[hornie]

https://www.womensaction.sg/article/migration

“For licensed brothels in Geylang, the workers are given two-year contracts, and when the contract is up, they will have a lifetime travel ban."

But buddy, what's the point of bringing her back? If you wanna have a good time just go to where she is, enjoy and come back. If you are trying to create some life with her, then it might be a good idea to think again.

[naan1974]

Hi bros,

Intending to bring back one of my favourites in geylang. Anyone knows the process of applying or sponsor visa for re-entry? Appreciate your info.

Is that even possible? maybe change name and identity in china
then come back SG is easier. Anyway what's the objective?
you want to make her your SG wife? If For fuck, probably more feasible to
bao her in china

[Ecuader]

Her name will be in the blacklist in both the sg embassy in bkk and Thailand embassy in Singapore. You need to request to remove her name from
The black list. Prerequisites u probably need to marry her or have baby with her. Something along this line b4 they even consider your request.

I have a fren who’s Thai wife tried to enter sg after she exit sg 20years later. They had a daughter. The daughter was allowed to enter sg. But the immigration detain the wife and send her back bkk.
Immigration told my fren he should have had her name removed from the blacklist.

I do know of former GL gals reentering sg to work as dome1 gals.
She even tried to ask me give her my address want me be her guarantor.
I rejected of cos. Dunno how she entered. Ica sleeping probably.

[The Old Nite]

there tis sentence goes... Whores r for fucking... not for loving...

[The Old Nite]

if u start to love them... then their imaginary stories all come out... father sick... mother at hospital... brother need school fees... baby sis still young, nid money drink milk n money for diapers...

[Kinoshita]

True love shall last a long way…my good buddy married a WL more than 20 years ago. I was invited as their best man and signed their marriage certificate in JB. They had 2 sons and a daughter. His wife is happy living in Malaysia and my buddy had to travel to/fro on daily basis, nevertheless they are a happy couple.

The girl was from Chiangmai. Came to Singapore worked in L06H72, back then was $40 and overnight was $110. After 2 years, she went back and build a house for her parents as well as brought land for growing paddy. Got a few buffaloes 🦬 and pigs 🐖. My buddy visited her for 2 years and later they decided to get married. You have to have a big heart to accept a WL, salute to my buddy.

When she became a Malaysian citizen, she was then able to visit Singapore anytime. Before the conversion, she wasn’t able to enter.

[Dignified69]

True love shall last a long way…my good buddy married a WL more than 20 years ago. I was invited as their best man and signed their marriage certificate in JB. They had 2 sons and a daughter. His wife is happy living in Malaysia and my buddy had to travel to/fro on daily basis, nevertheless they are a happy couple.

The girl was from Chiangmai. Came to Singapore worked in L06H72, back then was $40 and overnight was $110. After 2 years, she went back and build a house for her parents as well as brought land for growing paddy. Got a few buffaloes 🦬 and pigs 🐖. My buddy visited her for 2 years and later they decided to get married. You have to have a big heart to accept a WL, salute to my buddy.

When she became a Malaysian citizen, she was then able to visit Singapore anytime. Before the conversion, she wasn’t able to enter.


That you for sharing this wonderful story to show that everything is possible in this world and for keeping faith in humanity and love.

Yes Sammy boss has the rule - whores are only for fucking. But they are also human. And yes many or maybe most times it will not work out. But is has in the cases you mentioned, so good for them.

Also, let us not forget that most married guy who visits GL are not getting something which is very important to them. So who is to say...

[lonelyfish]

You have to have a big heart to accept a WL, salute to my buddy.

I think it is easier to accept a WL if you had chiong a lot as well. Unfortunately, I didn't RTF the girls in GL enough to think of getting together with a WL in GL, but ever did think for an ex-regular ML in BKK pre-covid and don't mind moving there. Actually I was wondering if could bring her back as an option.

That P-ban from returning is a bit harsh of a regulation though.

[HalimahYakult]

Golden Mile got a lot of girls working in restaurants, hp shop, small shops that use to be GL girl who manage to re-enter and get married

[Tiger149]

It takes a brave and dedicated man to marry a girl who used to be in the flesh trade. There are some success stories but many tragic stories too. I nearly entered into a serious relationship with an ex GL girl some 10 years back to the point of she asking me to marry her in LOS. But things went pear shaped after one day she jokingly said she loved money. That was considered a red sign for me personally. Broke up with her later which was quite a painful sad period for me. I promised myself then no more emotional attachment to the regular girls that I booked. Happy with my present situation now be it at GL legal houses or FL Dome 1 and that is to fuck and fuck off and sometimes tipping the girls for their good service.

[Tiger149]

This was the kind reply from a senior Bro to me some 2 years back when I PMed him.

" Before answering your question, you should know that all Thai nationals need a valid VISA from our ICA before they can enter SG. They can apply in Thailand from Spore embassy thru their local tour agents.

I think your question, there are two aspects of it.

First of all, if she intends to come back to SG just for sightseeing and following a tour group, the possibility of ICA approving her visa is rather high although some 10-20% still not approve for certain reasons.

If she intends to come back on her own then she has to apply for her VISA on personal grounds. Can still go thru agent but no advantage.

In most cases, she has to write in to ICA to provide a reason why she is coming to SG.

She will not be allowed to work in SG and in most cases she has to be sponsored or have a good Singaporean referee for her character and good behaviour in SG. In some cases, her character referee may have to post a bond.

With this approval letter, her chances of getting her VISA approved is much higher.

If she has committed any crime and fined before in SG, then her VISA will most probably be rejected.

if you ask me, it is better for her to join a tour group.
VISA much easier for ICA to approve "

[Ninja_Assassin]

This was the kind reply from a senior Bro to me some 2 years back when I PMed him.

" Before answering your question, you should know that all Thai nationals need a valid VISA from our ICA before they can enter SG. They can apply in Thailand from Spore embassy thru their local tour agents.

I think your question, there are two aspects of it.

First of all, if she intends to come back to SG just for sightseeing and following a tour group, the possibility of ICA approving her visa is rather high although some 10-20% still not approve for certain reasons.

If she intends to come back on her own then she has to apply for her VISA on personal grounds. Can still go thru agent but no advantage.

In most cases, she has to write in to ICA to provide a reason why she is coming to SG.

She will not be allowed to work in SG and in most cases she has to be sponsored or have a good Singaporean referee for her character and good behaviour in SG. In some cases, her character referee may have to post a bond.

With this approval letter, her chances of getting her VISA approved is much higher.

If she has committed any crime and fined before in SG, then her VISA will most probably be rejected.

if you ask me, it is better for her to join a tour group.
VISA much easier for ICA to approve "

Having a Visa does not necessarily mean automatic entry into SGP..... She can still be denied entry upon arrival at our checkpoints and turned away.

[Ninja_Assassin]

Couple of weeks ago a Vietnam VIP came to SGP on an official visit at the invitation of our PM. Accompany him was an entourage of businessmen and their aides. To facilitate smooth arrival transition for these people.... their details and travel documents were submitted earlier.
I heard during the pre-arrival screening of these aides... it was discovered that one of them was on ICA blacklist. And the VN delegation was informed and told she will be denied entry..... really no give face to the VN VIP.
Apparently this aide committed an offence in SGP several years ago while she was still an undergraduate and trying to earn some money to fund her studies. She was never charged in court but was deported and blacklisted.

[Tiger149]

Having a Visa does not necessarily mean automatic entry into SGP..... She can still be denied entry upon arrival at our checkpoints and turned away.

I see. Thanks for your extra info. Much appreciated.

[Kinoshita]

Originally Posted by Ninja_Assassin:
Having a Visa does not necessarily mean automatic entry into SGP..... She can still be denied entry upon arrival at our checkpoints and turned away.

Thailand is part of ASEAN = No VISA is required

[Citizens]

Originally Posted by Ninja_Assassin:
Having a Visa does not necessarily mean automatic entry into SGP..... She can still be denied entry upon arrival at our checkpoints and turned away.

Thailand is part of ASEAN = No VISA is required

Read the title bro...... I think they are discussing on ex-GL WLs coming back into SG after their contract. ASEAN do not apply to these WLs as they had signed T&C with the SG authorities.
My fellow Malaysian ladies oso same same T&C that's why they are reluctant to take up the GL brothels offers despite the lucrative incentives as they do not want to be banned from entry into SG after their stint.

[p u r e]

so lemme get this straight

any Thai or PRC or Msian or Vietnam girl that works in Geylang cannot come into SG again unless they are here as tourists, or are here because they have registered their marriage with a Singaporean? So cannot work here anymore? Cannot come here study? And if they have a romantic interest, cannot come here until marriage period?

Sounds pretty brutal and unfair. Such a discrimination. Do we have this practice for other occupations? What is unique about prostitution - legalized one too - that warrants such a law, if what I stated above is true?

[nakadashi555]

I think no re-entry even as tourist liao.

Which as bro pure mentioned, is rather brutal.

Think the top brass logic is that if they are allowed in, will see an increase in marriage with ex-WL, which will 'damage the fabric of society' and piss off the conservative groups in SG etc etc

Also more likely than not a face issue- draconian measure to signal that they are not 'pro-prostitution', and that they lan lan have to do cos "necessary".

Funny that if caught doing FL, 3 year ban but if legal WL, chance of lifetime ban.

[bradpitt968]

https://www.womensaction.sg/article/migration

“For licensed brothels in Geylang, the workers are given two-year contracts, and when the contract is up, they will have a lifetime travel ban."

But buddy, what's the point of bringing her back? If you wanna have a good time just go to where she is, enjoy and come back. If you are trying to create some life with her, then it might be a good idea to think again.

Wah! Lifetime travel ban means cannot come back Singapore, correct?

What if they were to change their name in Thailand? Will that siam the ban?

[bradpitt968]

Her name will be in the blacklist in both the sg embassy in bkk and Thailand embassy in Singapore. You need to request to remove her name from
The black list. Prerequisites u probably need to marry her or have baby with her. Something along this line b4 they even consider your request.

I have a fren who’s Thai wife tried to enter sg after she exit sg 20years later. They had a daughter. The daughter was allowed to enter sg. But the immigration detain the wife and send her back bkk.
Immigration told my fren he should have had her name removed from the blacklist.

I do know of former GL gals reentering sg to work as dome1 gals.
She even tried to ask me give her my address want me be her guarantor.
I rejected of cos. Dunno how she entered. Ica sleeping probably.

So what happened to your friend's Thai wife after being denied entry to Singapore?

[bradpitt968]

True love shall last a long way…my good buddy married a WL more than 20 years ago. I was invited as their best man and signed their marriage certificate in JB. They had 2 sons and a daughter. His wife is happy living in Malaysia and my buddy had to travel to/fro on daily basis, nevertheless they are a happy couple.

The girl was from Chiangmai. Came to Singapore worked in L06H72, back then was $40 and overnight was $110. After 2 years, she went back and build a house for her parents as well as brought land for growing paddy. Got a few buffaloes 🦬 and pigs 🐖. My buddy visited her for 2 years and later they decided to get married. You have to have a big heart to accept a WL, salute to my buddy.

When she became a Malaysian citizen, she was then able to visit Singapore anytime. Before the conversion, she wasn’t able to enter.

Wah! This is a nice story of their love conquers all. But really really challenging.

[bradpitt968]

It takes a brave and dedicated man to marry a girl who used to be in the flesh trade. There are some success stories but many tragic stories too. I nearly entered into a serious relationship with an ex GL girl some 10 years back to the point of she asking me to marry her in LOS. But things went pear shaped after one day she jokingly said she loved money. That was considered a red sign for me personally. Broke up with her later which was quite a painful sad period for me. I promised myself then no more emotional attachment to the regular girls that I booked. Happy with my present situation now be it at GL legal houses or FL Dome 1 and that is to fuck and fuck off and sometimes tipping the girls for their good service.

So how did you maintain the relationship with her? How long (after she went back) that thing went sour?

[Kinoshita]

Wah! Lifetime travel ban means cannot come back Singapore, correct?

What if they were to change their name in Thailand? Will that siam the ban?

There was once a 19 yo WL using fake passport to enter and work in L8H17. When she reached BKK, she was detained due to the fake passport. 200,000baht bail paid and released, however have to travel from Chiangrai to Bangkok every 2 months to report at immigration office/police station. That process took about 2 years before she was set free and bail money returned.

Thereafter, she was able to apply and obtain a genuine passport using her real name. She had tried to enter using JB checkpoint with her new passport, however she was denied entry as her fingerprints were captured in the system.

[bradpitt968]

I think no re-entry even as tourist liao.

Which as bro pure mentioned, is rather brutal.

Think the top brass logic is that if they are allowed in, will see an increase in marriage with ex-WL, which will 'damage the fabric of society' and piss off the conservative groups in SG etc etc

Also more likely than not a face issue- draconian measure to signal that they are not 'pro-prostitution', and that they lan lan have to do cos "necessary".

Funny that if caught doing FL, 3 year ban but if legal WL, chance of lifetime ban.

Agree with your last statement, the punishment for legal WL is worst than illegal FL. Doesn't make sense.

[Ecuader]

So what happened to your friend's Thai wife after being denied entry to Singapore?

Ganna sent back the next flight lo.

[funboi]

very informative. :D

[Ninja_Assassin]

Thereafter, she was able to apply and obtain a genuine passport using her real name. She had tried to enter using JB checkpoint with her new passport, however she was denied entry as her fingerprints were captured in the system.

With the biometric systems used now...... more and more fake identities are being discovered. Those who have been using fake identities are having a hard time finding places to hide.

A friend's brudder who got involved in a fight more than 20 yrs ago and killed the other guy went on the run to a neighbouring country. He managed to get a new identity with accompanying documents and lived a new life there..... until all these biometric stuff started to be implemented. And he was not even trying to leave that country but was caught out when he renewed his driver's license. His fingerprints matched the database and after verification with the SPF.... he was detained and subsequently extradicted back. Fortunately SG did not charge him for murder but the lesser offence of manslaughter and convicted 14 yrs imprisonment.

What I learnt from this case was that our data is shared with neighbouring countries and vice versa. All these PDPA is just bullshit if our details are an open book for neighbouring countries authorities. As a PI.... not difficult for me to obtain info on someone even if I kenna obstacles in SG with the PDPA bullshit. I just need to contact someone from another country agency to access and retrieve the info through this loophole.

[bullterrier]

Some ex WLs who went back said that if they want to come to Singapore as tourists, they have to write in to ICA. A sponsor is definitely needed. The responsibility of the sponsor is quite high.

The ex WLs are free to roam to other countries including ASEAN countries. I know a few of them are in KL now with work permit.

[Ecuader]

By the way ex WL are required to sign and swear oath not to to marry sg men.

They can marry Malaysian men though. I saw from former L18h16 g23’s fb that she’s married to a Malaysian guy. 😂

[Citizens]

By the way ex WL are required to sign and swear oath not to to marry sg men.

They can marry Malaysian men though. I saw from former L18h16 g23’s fb that she’s married to a Malaysian guy. 😂

SGP rules & regulations are sometimes illogical.... not a law under their statutes but still enforceable like the laws.
I know a singkie guy who was an ex-detective from CID. Learnt alot from him about the policing methods of the SPF. What I cannot comprehend is why he threw away his career for an WL.
Ok.... story telling time now.
EK was a detective with the SSB/CID.... sometimes they are required to support to other CID units. One day he was assigned to follow AV on their rounds. He came to know a WL in one of the Thai houses. Both fell in love but could not marry in SG. So after her stint in GL ended he followed her back to LOS and married her there. She could not return to SG so he will visit her every few months. All these travelling was tedious as her home was in Phayao village Northern Thailand near the Burma border. So they hatched a plan for her to return to SG and succeeded.
But 1 year later she was arrested for illegal entry and after investigations.... EK was arrested too. Jailed for 3 months and lost his job. He went to live in LOS and became an agent supplying thai girls to stables in Malaysia and SG.

[bradpitt968]

Ganna sent back the next flight lo.

Yah lah. Of course I know lah. I mean after she went back liao, did your friend managed to find a way for her to come back or what?

[bradpitt968]

There was once a 19 yo WL using fake passport to enter and work in L8H17. When she reached BKK, she was detained due to the fake passport. 200,000baht bail paid and released, however have to travel from Chiangrai to Bangkok every 2 months to report at immigration office/police station. That process took about 2 years before she was set free and bail money returned.

Thereafter, she was able to apply and obtain a genuine passport using her real name. She had tried to enter using JB checkpoint with her new passport, however she was denied entry as her fingerprints were captured in the system.

Wah lau, are you working at ICA? This type of cases you also know ah?

[bradpitt968]

With the biometric systems used now...... more and more fake identities are being discovered. Those who have been using fake identities are having a hard time finding places to hide.

A friend's brudder who got involved in a fight more than 20 yrs ago and killed the other guy went on the run to a neighbouring country. He managed to get a new identity with accompanying documents and lived a new life there..... until all these biometric stuff started to be implemented. And he was not even trying to leave that country but was caught out when he renewed his driver's license. His fingerprints matched the database and after verification with the SPF.... he was detained and subsequently extradicted back. Fortunately SG did not charge him for murder but the lesser offence of manslaughter and convicted 14 yrs imprisonment.

What I learnt from this case was that our data is shared with neighbouring countries and vice versa. All these PDPA is just bullshit if our details are an open book for neighbouring countries authorities. As a PI.... not difficult for me to obtain info on someone even if I kenna obstacles in SG with the PDPA bullshit. I just need to contact someone from another country agency to access and retrieve the info through this loophole.

Wah lau, run for 20yrs and kena caught. Singapore don't have statute of limitations for criminal like Taiwan.

In Singapore all access of information are logged, other country not logged meh?

[bradpitt968]

Some ex WLs who went back said that if they want to come to Singapore as tourists, they have to write in to ICA. A sponsor is definitely needed. The responsibility of the sponsor is quite high.

The ex WLs are free to roam to other countries including ASEAN countries. I know a few of them are in KL now with work permit.

Wah! You also power leh. Can still be in contact with all this WLs. Where are all this WL from? Thailand?

[bradpitt968]

By the way ex WL are required to sign and swear oath not to to marry sg men.

They can marry Malaysian men though. I saw from former L18h16 g23’s fb that she’s married to a Malaysian guy. 😂

Wah! You have her in your Facebook? Si beh power leh. My idol.

Seriously? Sign and swear oath cannot marry SG men? Got need to do until like that meh?

Side question : Can we still employ a Thai gal as FDW?

[Ninja_Assassin]

Wah lau, run for 20yrs and kena caught. Singapore don't have statute of limitations for criminal like Taiwan.

In Singapore all access of information are logged, other country not logged meh?

You think other countries agencies have strict protocols like SG? We all know that some of the criminal syndicates in our neighbours are headed by high ranking officials themselves. Black & white laws is decide by them.

[Ninja_Assassin]

EK was arrested too. Jailed for 3 months and lost his job. He went to live in LOS and became an agent supplying thai girls to stables in Malaysia and SG.

How ironic.... early part of his life he was catching FLs.
Due to the stupid laws.... for the latter part of his life he became the supplier of FLs.
Nevertheless we have to thank folks like him for giving us a constant supply of fresh ladies for our stables.

[Dignified69]

All above discussion also give me an appreciation for our legal and policing system. Very strong. Cannot play play

[lonelyfish]

All above discussion also give me an appreciation for our legal and policing system. Very strong. Cannot play play

All the above made me realise that there are more ridiculous laws and regulations here in addition to our long list of ridiculous ones.

[Tiger149]

So how did you maintain the relationship with her? How long (after she went back) that thing went sour?

Things were ok during the first few months when she went back home after her GL stint. Went to BKK during that period few times to visit her. She intro me to her family. But that time I just had this gut feeling that she expected me to also support her family financially. She also mentioned about marriage and the need to sometimes help out her 2 jobless brothers who were already married with kids of their own. When she detected my reluctance she broke up with me.

[jsparrow]

Things were ok during the first few months when she went back home after her GL stint. Went to BKK during that period few times to visit her. She intro me to her family. But that time I just had this gut feeling that she expected me to also support her family financially. She also mentioned about marriage and the need to sometimes help out her 2 jobless brothers who were already married with kids of their own. When she detected my reluctance she broke up with me.

It is a standard expectation from every thai lady that once they marry you, you will have to take care of the whole family. Girls being born in a Thai family will be the breadwinner and they will have to work hard to support the family, once you marry them you will have to take over their responsibility to provide them.

If you are lucky that you marry a girl who used to send home 100K baht a mth, you will have to do that once you marry her. That does not include other expenses such as buying a car, paying salary to the farmers taking care of their rice field, medical fees, new iPhones etc etc.

I am not saying that you can't marry a Thai lady, but you have to be prepared to provide support to their family, because their culture is always to take good care of their family, marrying a WL is tough because they used to be financially strong and your financial status must be stronger to match that. But if you guys a earning S$10k per mth, sure no issues.

But marrying a ex Geylang WL is a no no for SG as they are unable to come back to SG, and it'll be stressful for both parties living apart unless you are prepared to throw your IC and live there.

[Citizens]

It is a standard expectation from every thai lady that once they marry you, you will have to take care of the whole family. Girls being born in a Thai family will be the breadwinner and they will have to work hard to support the family, once you marry them you will have to take over their responsibility to provide them.


Not just Thal ladies..... it is an Asian culture thingy. Same thing if you marry a vietbu , pinay or indon wife. They oso expect you to support their families too.

[Tiger149]

It is a standard expectation from every thai lady that once they marry you, you will have to take care of the whole family. Girls being born in a Thai family will be the breadwinner and they will have to work hard to support the family, once you marry them you will have to take over their responsibility to provide them.

If you are lucky that you marry a girl who used to send home 100K baht a mth, you will have to do that once you marry her. That does not include other expenses such as buying a car, paying salary to the farmers taking care of their rice field, medical fees, new iPhones etc etc.

I am not saying that you can't marry a Thai lady, but you have to be prepared to provide support to their family, because their culture is always to take good care of their family, marrying a WL is tough because they used to be financially strong and your financial status must be stronger to match that. But if you guys a earning S$10k per mth, sure no issues.

But marrying a ex Geylang WL is a no no for SG as they are unable to come back to SG, and it'll be stressful for both parties living apart unless you are prepared to throw your IC and live there.

Agree. I was young then and probably naive about this kind of things since that was the 1st time I was like emotionally attached to a working girl like her. Thinking back now, probably a blessing in disguise for me. I'm just a mid range income guy and I cannot afford to support her family. Over the years I read up on the personal experiences of many senior Bros here and thanks to this Forum, I have learnt alot when dealing with these girls who are in this trade. At times I do feel sorry for these girls due to their circumstances in life but then again high chances they are earning twice more than me 555. Presently I'm still single and quite contented and happy in my life chionging in our own backyard and sometimes around the region.

[bradpitt968]

SGP rules & regulations are sometimes illogical.... not a law under their statutes but still enforceable like the laws.
I know a singkie guy who was an ex-detective from CID. Learnt alot from him about the policing methods of the SPF. What I cannot comprehend is why he threw away his career for an WL.
Ok.... story telling time now.
EK was a detective with the SSB/CID.... sometimes they are required to support to other CID units. One day he was assigned to follow AV on their rounds. He came to know a WL in one of the Thai houses. Both fell in love but could not marry in SG. So after her stint in GL ended he followed her back to LOS and married her there. She could not return to SG so he will visit her every few months. All these travelling was tedious as her home was in Phayao village Northern Thailand near the Burma border. So they hatched a plan for her to return to SG and succeeded.
But 1 year later she was arrested for illegal entry and after investigations.... EK was arrested too. Jailed for 3 months and lost his job. He went to live in LOS and became an agent supplying thai girls to stables in Malaysia and SG.

Wah ..... Good sex .... I mean Love conquers all.

Life is short. Do what makes us happy.

[bradpitt968]

How ironic.... early part of his life he was catching FLs.
Due to the stupid laws.... for the latter part of his life he became the supplier of FLs.
Nevertheless we have to thank folks like him for giving us a constant supply of fresh ladies for our stables.

Objectively, WLs are just like all the plumbers, electrician, etc that is working in Singapore from Malaysia. They are just providing a service to meet a need in society.

No rob or kill, frankly it is ok.

[bradpitt968]

Things were ok during the first few months when she went back home after her GL stint. Went to BKK during that period few times to visit her. She intro me to her family. But that time I just had this gut feeling that she expected me to also support her family financially. She also mentioned about marriage and the need to sometimes help out her 2 jobless brothers who were already married with kids of their own. When she detected my reluctance she broke up with me.

Oic. That is very sad.

I guess it is about both party compromising. Seriously, if we are like a friend of mine who is rich, no problem. Got a Thai gal pregnant, bought a house, a car and give a monthly allowance.

For the regular Joe, I guess they need to manage the expectation.

[bradpitt968]

It is a standard expectation from every thai lady that once they marry you, you will have to take care of the whole family. Girls being born in a Thai family will be the breadwinner and they will have to work hard to support the family, once you marry them you will have to take over their responsibility to provide them.

If you are lucky that you marry a girl who used to send home 100K baht a mth, you will have to do that once you marry her. That does not include other expenses such as buying a car, paying salary to the farmers taking care of their rice field, medical fees, new iPhones etc etc.

I am not saying that you can't marry a Thai lady, but you have to be prepared to provide support to their family, because their culture is always to take good care of their family, marrying a WL is tough because they used to be financially strong and your financial status must be stronger to match that. But if you guys a earning S$10k per mth, sure no issues.

But marrying a ex Geylang WL is a no no for SG as they are unable to come back to SG, and it'll be stressful for both parties living apart unless you are prepared to throw your IC and live there.

To live in Thailand, don't need to throw IC right?

Can just register yourself as Digital Nomad right? Or no? Please pardon me, as I am not familiar with all this.

[stfatt]

To live in Thailand, don't need to throw IC right?

Can just register yourself as Digital Nomad right? Or no? Please pardon me, as I am not familiar with all this.

For those negative thoughts of marrying WL, I got 1 bro who been the same situation. Now he is happily married with her in sg and had two kids. He's not rich and the girl is working a decent job now. She send money to her family without the support of mine bro.but the initial years will be tough as he have to appeal the girl to come.

[lonelyfish]

To live in Thailand, don't need to throw IC right?

Can just register yourself as Digital Nomad right? Or no? Please pardon me, as I am not familiar with all this.

You can use the Retirement Visa (1yr each time) if you qualify and of age 50yo or above. You can't be employed in TH, but I guess Digital Nomad is not employment. Otherwise need to keep doing visa run. My friend is doing that now.

[bradpitt968]

For those negative thoughts of marrying WL, I got 1 bro who been the same situation. Now he is happily married with her in sg and had two kids. He's not rich and the girl is working a decent job now. She send money to her family without the support of mine bro.but the initial years will be tough as he have to appeal the girl to come.

Wah lau, you joined in 2008 and only got 9 post. This one your 9th post. This thread managed to make you post, solid lah.

Your friend's WL is from Thailand? She was working in one of the Geylang house?

What is the gal working as now? Probably retail, correct? I am also curious, how much would be reasonably sufficient to send back each month to "support" the basic needs of the family?

[stfatt]

Wah lau, you joined in 2008 and only got 9 post. This one your 9th post. This thread managed to make you post, solid lah.

Your friend's WL is from Thailand? She was working in one of the Geylang house?

What is the gal working as now? Probably retail, correct? I am also curious, how much would be reasonably sufficient to send back each month to "support" the basic needs of the family?

Yes she was in one of the houses. Now I think she is now F&B manager. How much she send I not sure only knows she never ask for mine bro. I only see many have negative thoughts for the girls so like to voice out mah. I Chiong many years see many things. Only can say the bros out there like to flaunt money in front of the girls that's why they think those bros like financial boat for them to help them ashore.

[hornie]

Wah! Lifetime travel ban means cannot come back Singapore, correct?

What if they were to change their name in Thailand? Will that siam the ban?

I think the ruling is clear, cannot come in. Lifetime ban. Does not matter what the reason is. These rules are in place to protect the "integrity" of our society. Geylang is not a dating agency.

The goverment's intention was not for Singaporeans to build long term relationships with these ladies. Not for them to marry, have kids, get PR, apply for hub etc. Thats also why there is a clear time limit for their employment here as well. I think the only way to "siam" as 1 bro mention is for them to enter with a new country passport then ICA cannot find them on the blacklist anymore.

[jsparrow]

To live in Thailand, don't need to throw IC right?

Can just register yourself as Digital Nomad right? Or no? Please pardon me, as I am not familiar with all this.

Yeah a bro already replied this, get a retirement visa if you are over 55 if not no choice do a visa run in/ out, was in Chiang Mai 2 weeks back and one of the cousins of my gal married to a Malaysian which he registered his marriage to the Thai office, was given a 3 MTHS visa everytime he enters Thailand by land border because he only drives in, Thai system is not straight forward and it changes everytime.

To correct someone who thinks I'm against marrying a Thai, nope, this thread is about marrying a Thai WL working in registered houses, so far it's to enlighten TS that the girl will not able to enter SG again, I have a fair share of friends wanting to do that but in the end they give up as they themselves know that they won't be able to commit to stay in Thai with the girl.

[jsparrow]

Not just Thal ladies..... it is an Asian culture thingy. Same thing if you marry a vietbu , pinay or indon wife. They oso expect you to support their families too.

Wahhh if we were to continue this we will have to be in a different thread, rest assured Thai girls are not really threatening than the other Nationalities mentioned :D

[bradpitt968]

Yes she was in one of the houses. Now I think she is now F&B manager. How much she send I not sure only knows she never ask for mine bro. I only see many have negative thoughts for the girls so like to voice out mah. I Chiong many years see many things. Only can say the bros out there like to flaunt money in front of the girls that's why they think those bros like financial boat for them to help them ashore.

Those who flaunt with $$ is sad if what they can do is just flaunt with $$.

Wah, she can do until F&B Manager, si beh power leh.

All this WLs are really champion, they should be treated with more respect. They help keep crime rates and preserve many families, which would otherwise be broken. They brought hope and joy to the lives of many men in Singapore.

They deserve better treatment lor.

[bradpitt968]

For those negative thoughts of marrying WL, I got 1 bro who been the same situation. Now he is happily married with her in sg and had two kids. He's not rich and the girl is working a decent job now. She send money to her family without the support of mine bro.but the initial years will be tough as he have to appeal the girl to come.

Of course happily married lah. Everyday can make love shiok shiok. Congrats to your friend. Should get him to register and share his journey, that will be so helpful to TS.

Frankly, sex is what bonds relationship. Many local ladies don't subscribe to this. One thing I like about Thai gal is that they know that sex is a "need" not just a "want" for men.

[bradpitt968]

I think the ruling is clear, cannot come in. Lifetime ban. Does not matter what the reason is. These rules are in place to protect the "integrity" of our society. Geylang is not a dating agency.

The goverment's intention was not for Singaporeans to build long term relationships with these ladies. Not for them to marry, have kids, get PR, apply for hub etc. Thats also why there is a clear time limit for their employment here as well. I think the only way to "siam" as 1 bro mention is for them to enter with a new country passport then ICA cannot find them on the blacklist anymore.

Like I said, all this WLs should be treated with more respect. What integrity are they talking about when CECA is allow in to take the jobs of Singaporean correct?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64082923

Canada is SO BIG and they ban foreigners from buying property because it drives up property prices there.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2432802/foreign-land-ownership-proposal-withdrawn-from-cabinet

Thailand SO BIG and they also doesn't lelong off their land to foreigners.

But in Singapore, our lands / properties are lelong off to foreigners. I heard from one property agent who told me that he came across PRC buyers who said : Singaporeans don't buy nevermind, next time can rent from me.

SG Govt should ban foreign buyers on property and allow WLs to come back after 3yrs (same as those FL who kena caught). Or frankly, don't even ban. Must give credits to them mah.

[bradpitt968]

Wahhh if we were to continue this we will have to be in a different thread, rest assured Thai girls are not really threatening than the other Nationalities mentioned :D

That's why I ask : Can we bring Thai gal in as FDW?

But nobody reply me. We have Thai gals as helper in Singapore long time ago but govt stopped it liao.

If now can, then ho say liao. LOL!

[Ninja_Assassin]

That's why I ask : Can we bring Thai gal in as FDW?!

Should be able to...... I went to a client's house in Sentosa Cove and she has 2 maids. Initially I thought they were filipinas because they look like pinays. After a few visits then I found out that they were actually Mexicans. They had been working for my client for several years when she was in the USA and she brought them over when she relocated to SG.
My client enlightened me that her migration lawyer had informed her that it was possible for her to bring them over and she left it to him to arrange it.... no problem at all.
I asked my employment agent friend about this and he says apparently any nationality can be brought in as an FDW...... but agents are only sourcing from those countries which are profitable to them.

[Dignified69]

Like I said, all this WLs should be treated with more respect. What integrity are they talking about when CECA is allow in to take the jobs of Singaporean correct?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64082923

Canada is SO BIG and they ban foreigners from buying property because it drives up property prices there.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2432802/foreign-land-ownership-proposal-withdrawn-from-cabinet

Thailand SO BIG and they also doesn't lelong off their land to foreigners.

But in Singapore, our lands / properties are lelong off to foreigners. I heard from one property agent who told me that he came across PRC buyers who said : Singaporeans don't buy nevermind, next time can rent from me.

SG Govt should ban foreign buyers on property and allow WLs to come back after 3yrs (same as those FL who kena caught). Or frankly, don't even ban. Must give credits to them mah.

I support your caring and kind attitude towards our WL friends. Indeed they beautifully help us in Life's journey.

Some other points

1. Do you think our SG gals will be happy if WL allowed to marry, come back here etc? Woman's charter says?

2. Canada property ban is recent. Before foreigner can buy. Thaland don't know.

3. Our problem is not enough people. If we don't each produce 2 of next generation then how? I know expensive, but then buy Charles and Keith and not Louis Vitton.

In my office 6 gal in team. 2 married with 1 kid each. Hopefully they make 1 more, though most probably not.

2 are 35+ and doesn't look like marrying any time soon.

2 are married but not having next generation.

haiz...

[lonelyfish]

I support your caring and kind attitude towards our WL friends. Indeed they beautifully help us in Life's journey.

Some other points

1. Do you think our SG gals will be happy if WL allowed to marry, come back here etc? Woman's charter says?

2. Canada property ban is recent. Before foreigner can buy. Thaland don't know.

3. Our problem is not enough people. If we don't each produce 2 of next generation then how? I know expensive, but then buy Charles and Keith and not Louis Vitton.

In my office 6 gal in team. 2 married with 1 kid each. Hopefully they make 1 more, though most probably not.

2 are 35+ and doesn't look like marrying any time soon.

2 are married but not having next generation.

haiz...

1. Probably they should ask themselves why the guys need to find WLs instead of blaming the WLs.

3. Not worried about this either. There are affordable ways to raise a kid, but the people chose to use the expensive way. I would like FDWs to be available as an option for us as well.

[hornie]

I want to keep an open mind on this, but I am struggling to understand what this has anything to do with "respect". They entered an agreement that clearly states their jobs cope and that they cannot enter SG again after their term.

And frankly I prefer it that way. I would not be excited to see a prostitute I banged 3 years ago in geylang starting a family next door to me.

And they are not Working Ladies. I think sammyboy forum is the only place in the whole I hear people referring hookers as Working Ladies. They are prostitutes. They have literally done nothing to deserve our respect. I respect that some of them have nicer blow jobs. Thats all the credit I give them.

Not to say that I believe in disrespecting them as human beings. Some of them are nice people, just in less desirable situations. But I think our parents will have something to say if they found out we are dating hookers. I would definitely wack my son big time if I find out he is getting serious with one.

I am also v passionate abt property since you brought it up. Singapore's economic situation, fast response to covid and well managed property market has enabled me to sell my 4 room hdb and buy 3 properties over the past 3 years with over $700,000 paper gain.

The Thai property market is rubbish. Has always been for a long time now. Many investors burnt. I have not enough knowledge to comment abt the Canada market but sudden moves to suddenly ban foreigners to buy into your market is way too harsh and chaotic and will lower investor confidence.

Like I said, all this WLs should be treated with more respect. What integrity are they talking about when CECA is allow in to take the jobs of Singaporean correct?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64082923

Canada is SO BIG and they ban foreigners from buying property because it drives up property prices there.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2432802/foreign-land-ownership-proposal-withdrawn-from-cabinet

Thailand SO BIG and they also doesn't lelong off their land to foreigners.

But in Singapore, our lands / properties are lelong off to foreigners. I heard from one property agent who told me that he came across PRC buyers who said : Singaporeans don't buy nevermind, next time can rent from me.

SG Govt should ban foreign buyers on property and allow WLs to come back after 3yrs (same as those FL who kena caught). Or frankly, don't even ban. Must give credits to them mah.

[unfit]

you can marry whore to be wife :)

but never prostitute your wife ;)

[TheIdesOfMarch]

I want to keep an open mind on this, but I am struggling to understand what this has anything to do with "respect". They entered an agreement that clearly states their jobs cope and that they cannot enter SG again after their term.

And frankly I prefer it that way. I would not be excited to see a prostitute I banged 3 years ago in geylang starting a family next door to me.

And they are not Working Ladies. I think sammyboy forum is the only place in the whole I hear people referring hookers as Working Ladies. They are prostitutes. They have literally done nothing to deserve our respect. I respect that some of them have nicer blow jobs. Thats all the credit I give them.

Not to say that I believe in disrespecting them as human beings. Some of them are nice people, just in less desirable situations. But I think our parents will have something to say if they found out we are dating hookers. I would definitely wack my son big time if I find out he is getting serious with one.



I wonder what you will say one day in future if you have a son and he says he's getting serious with a girl who's also fucked around a lot in the past before meeting him. Whack him also?

I'm not religious, but just to borrow an example from the Bible, Jesus held a higher regard for a prostitute than he did religious folk or the Pharisee priests. "I tell you the truth, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you" (Matthew 21:31).

Let that sink in. Your comment smacks of self-righteousness. You'd condemn and whack your son if he told you that he wanted to go serious with a prostitute, yet you have no qualms using the services of one yourself and sharing her with many other men one after another. What's that say about you?

[lonelyfish]

And frankly I prefer it that way. I would not be excited to see a prostitute I banged 3 years ago in geylang starting a family next door to me.

Not to say that I believe in disrespecting them as human beings. Some of them are nice people, just in less desirable situations. But I think our parents will have something to say if they found out we are dating hookers. I would definitely wack my son big time if I find out he is getting serious with one.

I choose not to live with the society views. I personally don't care who lives next door neither could my parents control my decisions. And I won't control who my future son (if have) got together with.

I find that agreement ridiculous and I think options should be kept open so that those who want to choose them get to. I'm tired to live by how the society thinks how we should. Their views already made it quite impossible to get the kind of partner I'm looking for - my requirements are way too low based on their standards. They exist around us, but we can't simply pick them.

[hornie]

I wonder what you will say one day in future if you have a son and he says he's getting serious with a girl who's also fucked around a lot in the past before meeting him. Whack him also?

I'm not religious, but just to borrow an example from the Bible, Jesus held a higher regard for a prostitute than he did religious folk or the Pharisee priests. "I tell you the truth, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you" (Matthew 21:31).

Let that sink in. Your comment smacks of self-righteousness. You'd condemn and whack your son if he told you that he wanted to go serious with a prostitute, yet you have no qualms using the services of one yourself and sharing her with many other men one after another. What's that say about you?

It says that I view prostitutes for what they are, people selling sexual services. I enjoy sharing my experiences, just like a restaurant review, with like minded people here. Like a vast majority of people here, I am also able to separate love from sexual release.

[bradpitt968]

I want to keep an open mind on this, but I am struggling to understand what this has anything to do with "respect". They entered an agreement that clearly states their jobs cope and that they cannot enter SG again after their term.

And frankly I prefer it that way. I would not be excited to see a prostitute I banged 3 years ago in geylang starting a family next door to me.

And they are not Working Ladies. I think sammyboy forum is the only place in the whole I hear people referring hookers as Working Ladies. They are prostitutes. They have literally done nothing to deserve our respect. I respect that some of them have nicer blow jobs. Thats all the credit I give them.

Not to say that I believe in disrespecting them as human beings. Some of them are nice people, just in less desirable situations. But I think our parents will have something to say if they found out we are dating hookers. I would definitely wack my son big time if I find out he is getting serious with one.

I am also v passionate abt property since you brought it up. Singapore's economic situation, fast response to covid and well managed property market has enabled me to sell my 4 room hdb and buy 3 properties over the past 3 years with over $700,000 paper gain.

The Thai property market is rubbish. Has always been for a long time now. Many investors burnt. I have not enough knowledge to comment abt the Canada market but sudden moves to suddenly ban foreigners to buy into your market is way too harsh and chaotic and will lower investor confidence.

Personally, I don't care what they were working as in the past or even now, as long as they are nice people. I see too many hypocrites, who may be in good job but are assholes.

If you let me choose, I rather have a prostitute who is a nice person than a judgemental prick, who feels that they are "holier than tho" as neighbour.

I agree with you on SG handling of Covid situation is well managed. As for the property side, congrats to you on your paper gain. The "gain" of today will be paid by the future generation.

Thai govt may not be the best but I feel that at least they still care about the Thai locals enough to block foreigners (from richer countries) to buy up their properties to artificially inflate property prices beyond the means of the average person in the streets.

The day when Singapore becomes like Hong Kong, the future of Singapore has become bleak.

[bradpitt968]

you can marry whore to be wife :)

but never prostitute your wife ;)

Agree with this too.

[unfit]

Agree with this too.

24 apples for you...Cheers 🥂

[TheIdesOfMarch]

Agree with this too.

+11 for you too. Your previous comment to Hornie, well said.

[bradpitt968]

24 apples for you...Cheers 🥂

Actually, what is the points for ah? Many people PM me to ask me to up their points.

I only can give you 19 apples. LOL!

[bradpitt968]

+11 for you too. Your previous comment to Hornie, well said.

Thanks! I don't know what the points are for but anyway +19 for you.

[unfit]

Actually, what is the points for ah? Many people PM me to ask me to up their points.

I only can give you 19 apples. LOL!

apples shared with like minded samsters:D

[p u r e]

I wonder what you will say one day in future if you have a son and he says he's getting serious with a girl who's also fucked around a lot in the past before meeting him. Whack him also?

I'm not religious, but just to borrow an example from the Bible, Jesus held a higher regard for a prostitute than he did religious folk or the Pharisee priests. "I tell you the truth, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you" (Matthew 21:31).

Let that sink in. Your comment smacks of self-righteousness. You'd condemn and whack your son if he told you that he wanted to go serious with a prostitute, yet you have no qualms using the services of one yourself and sharing her with many other men one after another. What's that say about you?
dude.

wanted to upz you for this.

but couldn't.

damn well said

[TheIdesOfMarch]

dude.

wanted to upz you for this.

but couldn't.

damn well said

Haha thanks. Just follow this comment you should be able to already.

Gave you +11 in advance.

[sting691]

So conclusion

All visa application applied by SG citizen also subject to approval?

[Summerhillt]

Should be able to...... I went to a client's house in Sentosa Cove and she has 2 maids. Initially I thought they were filipinas because they look like pinays. After a few visits then I found out that they were actually Mexicans. They had been working for my client for several years when she was in the USA and she brought them over when she relocated to SG.
My client enlightened me that her migration lawyer had informed her that it was possible for her to bring them over and she left it to him to arrange it.... no problem at all.
I asked my employment agent friend about this and he says apparently any nationality can be brought in as an FDW...... but agents are only sourcing from those countries which are profitable to them.

I don’t think any nationalities can be FDW. There’s a restriction right?

https://www.mom.gov.sg/passes-and-permits/work-permit-for-foreign-domestic-worker/eligibility-and-requirements/fdw-eligibility

From an approved source country or region, including Bangladesh, Cambodia, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Macau, Malaysia, Myanmar, Philippines, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Taiwan and Thailand.

[Zetyalpha]

SGP rules & regulations are sometimes illogical.... not a law under their statutes but still enforceable like the laws.
I know a singkie guy who was an ex-detective from CID. Learnt alot from him about the policing methods of the SPF. What I cannot comprehend is why he threw away his career for an WL.
Ok.... story telling time now.
EK was a detective with the SSB/CID.... sometimes they are required to support to other CID units. One day he was assigned to follow AV on their rounds. He came to know a WL in one of the Thai houses. Both fell in love but could not marry in SG. So after her stint in GL ended he followed her back to LOS and married her there. She could not return to SG so he will visit her every few months. All these travelling was tedious as her home was in Phayao village Northern Thailand near the Burma border. So they hatched a plan for her to return to SG and succeeded.
But 1 year later she was arrested for illegal entry and after investigations.... EK was arrested too. Jailed for 3 months and lost his job. He went to live in LOS and became an agent supplying thai girls to stables in Malaysia and SG.

Ok, maybe this is a long shot. Is it possible for you to hook me up with this guy? I can't really survive in Singapore really well either. Maybe you can drop me a PM?

[dbrudder]

so lemme get this straight

any Thai or PRC or Msian or Vietnam girl that works in Geylang cannot come into SG again unless they are here as tourists, or are here because they have registered their marriage with a Singaporean? So cannot work here anymore? Cannot come here study? And if they have a romantic interest, cannot come here until marriage period?

Sounds pretty brutal and unfair. Such a discrimination. Do we have this practice for other occupations? What is unique about prostitution - legalized one too - that warrants such a law, if what I stated above is true?

Yeah Singapore laws like this are discriminatory. Unfortunately, unless some Women's rights group start making noise, no MP will bother fighting for it.

[dbrudder]

Personally, I don't care what they were working as in the past or even now, as long as they are nice people. I see too many hypocrites, who may be in good job but are assholes.

If you let me choose, I rather have a prostitute who is a nice person than a judgemental prick, who feels that they are "holier than tho" as neighbour.

I agree with you on SG handling of Covid situation is well managed. As for the property side, congrats to you on your paper gain. The "gain" of today will be paid by the future generation.

Thai govt may not be the best but I feel that at least they still care about the Thai locals enough to block foreigners (from richer countries) to buy up their properties to artificially inflate property prices beyond the means of the average person in the streets.

The day when Singapore becomes like Hong Kong, the future of Singapore has become bleak.

Well said 👏👏👏

[Ninja_Assassin]

I don’t think any nationalities can be FDW. There’s a restriction right?

https://www.mom.gov.sg/passes-and-permits/work-permit-for-foreign-domestic-worker/eligibility-and-requirements/fdw-eligibility

From an approved source country or region, including Bangladesh, Cambodia, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Macau, Malaysia, Myanmar, Philippines, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Taiwan and Thailand.

I reconfirmed with TSL again... straight from the horses mouth.
Yes.... it is possible. Exceptions can be made for certain category of FDW.... on case by case basis.

[Summerhillt]

I reconfirmed with TSL again... straight from the horses mouth.
Yes.... it is possible. Exceptions can be made for certain category of FDW.... on case by case basis.

Made for certain categories of FDW? I can get a Vietnam maid?

[Ninja_Assassin]

Made for certain categories of FDW? I can get a Vietnam maid?

Are you of certain status or VVIP ?
Kuching kurap peasants dun get preferential treatment.... go join the queue for the mass FDW imports at the maid agencies.
Only the privileged can have their own handpicked special FDW to work for them.

[unfit]

chamberlain

majordomo

seneschal

employment permit will be more atas:D

[apollo79]

Possible for WL who left SG more than 4 years ago to visit SG as tourist?
Many thanks for any insights.

[apollo79]

Possible for WL to return to SG as tourist after 4years?
Many thanks for any insights

[apollo79]

Possible for WL to return to SG as tourist after 4years?
Many thanks for any insights

[apollo79]

Possible for WL to return to SG as tourist after 4years?

[apollo79]

Watching this thread

[bradpitt968]

I choose not to live with the society views. I personally don't care who lives next door neither could my parents control my decisions. And I won't control who my future son (if have) got together with.

I find that agreement ridiculous and I think options should be kept open so that those who want to choose them get to. I'm tired to live by how the society thinks how we should. Their views already made it quite impossible to get the kind of partner I'm looking for - my requirements are way too low based on their standards. They exist around us, but we can't simply pick them.

Frankly, what is the big deal about "society views"?

Gals can bragged on social media of the big house that their sugar daddy bought for them. One of my friend commented that the sugar daddy is like her bf, what is the difference?

Personally, I always tell my friends that for a gal and guy to be together for a long time, the most important thing is sexual compatibility. This is my POV.

After the sexual compatibility is there liao, then the rest like character, behaviour, etc will need to fall in place. Because in a healthy relationship, good sex is SO IMPORTANT.

When men especially have good sex, we become more patience, more loving, more sweet, etc. Gals who complaint their guy is not patience etc is usually because didn't have good sex mah.

In the time and age, most important is that we are happy.

[Penofthewest]

Possible for WL to return to SG as tourist after 4years?

Yes, it’s possible after 2 years. This is what the AV and ICA will tell the WL when she cuts her card. They will also say it’s case by case basis. In reality, if she has your kid there are quite a number of precedents of WLs being permitted to come to SG.

[Triple_H]

Times have change, last time people used to be very conservative, dont fark around before marriage. Now??? Even if you found a nice women whom you think she had low body count etc, but do you think she will tell you her true numbers?

For me is, at least you know she is a sex worker and be together with her rather then you get together with her and found out she is lying to you.

Regardless of who you marries. Their are still chances that she will one day leave you. Thats life.

[Ecuader]

Yes, it’s possible after 2 years. This is what the AV and ICA will tell the WL when she cuts her card. They will also say it’s case by case basis. In reality, if she has your kid there are quite a number of precedents of WLs being permitted to come to SG.

All they need is a guarantor.

But if she comes back and do fl will get the guarantor into trouble.

[bradpitt968]

Yes, it’s possible after 2 years. This is what the AV and ICA will tell the WL when she cuts her card. They will also say it’s case by case basis. In reality, if she has your kid there are quite a number of precedents of WLs being permitted to come to SG.

Har? Must have kids liao then can come back meh? I heard of a case, no kids but married.

So without getting married, cannot come back meh?

[bradpitt968]

Times have change, last time people used to be very conservative, dont fark around before marriage. Now??? Even if you found a nice women whom you think she had low body count etc, but do you think she will tell you her true numbers?

For me is, at least you know she is a sex worker and be together with her rather then you get together with her and found out she is lying to you.

Regardless of who you marries. Their are still chances that she will one day leave you. Thats life.

Agree. We will never know.

Yes. Frankly, marriage is nothing. For Singapore, it is the passport to buy HDB before 35yo, that's all. One day, when the person change of heart, it is GG liao.

[bradpitt968]

All they need is a guarantor.

But if she comes back and do fl will get the guarantor into trouble.

Oh, what must the guarantor do?

Of course lah. If they come back via this way, then cannot anyhow do this shit liao. If not, may really kena permanent ban liao.

[Penofthewest]

Har? Must have kids liao then can come back meh? I heard of a case, no kids but married.

So without getting married, cannot come back meh?

No need kid but have heard of a few unmarried w kid can come back visit. Married can get long term pass. Guarantor approach (same if you try to bring former siamdiu siambus working as “entertainers” or who got caught by ICA before) is fine but also case by case basis.

[bradpitt968]

No need kid but have heard of a few unmarried w kid can come back visit. Married can get long term pass. Guarantor approach (same if you try to bring former siamdiu siambus working as “entertainers” or who got caught by ICA before) is fine but also case by case basis.

You mean if unmarried but have kid and the kid is in Singapore, the Thai lady can come and visit but cannot stay long term in Singapore?

So only married liao then can get "Long term pass" lah, correct?

What is require for the "Guarantor" approach? Just use name only? What else?

[jenninghillsky]

No need kid but have heard of a few unmarried w kid can come back visit. Married can get long term pass. Guarantor approach (same if you try to bring former siamdiu siambus working as “entertainers” or who got caught by ICA before) is fine but also case by case basis.

Kid in SG and she can visit for short term?? Better married liao just in papers

[Ecuader]

Oh, what must the guarantor do?

Of course lah. If they come back via this way, then cannot anyhow do this shit liao. If not, may really kena permanent ban liao.

Provide her with your address?
Ever got Thai gal ask me be guarantor and I reject her outright.

[unfit]

Provide her with your address?
Ever got Thai gal ask me be guarantor and I reject her outright.

be safe than sorry

if she did any hanky-panky stuff

the deposit kiss goodbye too ;)

[nasribolt]

Can WL come back to work as WL again? Maybe it was answered and I missed it.

[lonelyfish]

Previously I was sad when the GFE WL with 100% the looks and body of my type I liked RTC. I was hoping when she can come back. After searching for some time, I found some GFE WLs with excellent service but not with the looks of my type and still able to get over with it. And now there are quite a few of such WLs in GL, so I don't care about whether the WL can come back again anymore or not.

However, I will care if a ML have restrictions to re-enter SG cuz those good ones are difficult to find and may require lots of time, effort and $ to build chemistry to get what you want.

[unfit]

Previously I was sad when the GFE WL with 100% the looks and body of my type I liked RTC. I was hoping when she can come back. After searching for some time, I found some GFE WLs with excellent service but not with the looks of my type and still able to get over with it. And now there are quite a few of such WLs in GL, so I don't care about whether the WL can come back again anymore or not.

However, I will care if a ML have restrictions to re-enter SG cuz those good ones are difficult to find and may require lots of time, effort and $ to build chemistry to get what you want.

before c19 most of us will fly over to fuck their brains out or meet them in boleh daily to continue the gfe:p

[HalimahYakult]

Times have change, last time people used to be very conservative, dont fark around before marriage. Now??? Even if you found a nice women whom you think she had low body count etc, but do you think she will tell you her true numbers?

For me is, at least you know she is a sex worker and be together with her rather then you get together with her and found out she is lying to you.

Regardless of who you marries. Their are still chances that she will one day leave you. Thats life.

Facts. But date sex workers is tough too. Every day the mental assault that many guys have been with her, some even actively wooing her with gifts, affection etc..

[Triple_H]

Facts. But date sex workers is tough too. Every day the mental assault that many guys have been with her, some even actively wooing her with gifts, affection etc..

Everything comes with a price bah, need to manage your emotions. Outside girls also she will have guy friends etc .

[lonelyfish]

Everything comes with a price bah, need to manage your emotions. Outside girls also she will have guy friends etc .

I think the point that the WLs have way more body count than a regular girl. The amount of guys she need to service probably made her numb to much of the feeling you give to her.

[lonelyfish]

before c19 most of us will fly over to fuck their brains out or meet them in boleh daily to continue the gfe:p

The gfe feel maybe excellent, but not up the level for me to go all the way for her. That's why I picked an alternative one.

[Triple_H]

I think the point that the WLs have way more body count than a regular girl. The amount of guys she need to service probably made her numb to much of the feeling you give to her.

Hmm. So how she can return to normal love life again, maybe like quit for few years?

[HalimahYakult]

Everything comes with a price bah, need to manage your emotions. Outside girls also she will have guy friends etc .

I think the point that the WLs have way more body count than a regular girl. The amount of guys she need to service probably made her numb to much of the feeling you give to her.

Hmm. So how she can return to normal love life again, maybe like quit for few years?

i know a fellow cheongster who managed to get a geylang angpai to rtc recently. give her money, buy house buy car etc. says he's head over heels in love with this girl but even he shares with me in confidence that he often thinks about how his girl is like when sleeping with customers, whether she fantasizes about them and the worst is if she's still in contact with them especially those who were wooing her with gifts, constant text messages etc.

[lonelyfish]

i know a fellow cheongster who managed to get a geylang angpai to rtc recently. give her money, buy house buy car etc. says he's head over heels in love with this girl but even he shares with me in confidence that he often thinks about how his girl is like when sleeping with customers, whether she fantasizes about them and the worst is if she's still in contact with them especially those who were wooing her with gifts, constant text messages etc.

This is relationship built on $, once he can't offer it anymore, she will probably dispose of him. I'll not spend this kind of thing on a girl especially a WL, even though I know some of the WL who really want to get over with this quick and return back to normal life.

After spending time in GL with the WLs, I feel that they are there just to temporary fix my deprives. Excellent gfe WLs can satisfy me for quite awhile, but it still doesn't last long enough or feel better than from a ML with developed feelings.

[bradpitt968]

i know a fellow cheongster who managed to get a geylang angpai to rtc recently. give her money, buy house buy car etc. says he's head over heels in love with this girl but even he shares with me in confidence that he often thinks about how his girl is like when sleeping with customers, whether she fantasizes about them and the worst is if she's still in contact with them especially those who were wooing her with gifts, constant text messages etc.

Wah, this cheongster so power ah? Money to buy car and buy house is probably in the range of SGD$200K or more?

As for the thinking how is it when other customer banged her, simple, just don't think. Enjoy what he wants to enjoy, that is the most important. The rest are all past.

For the in contact part, if somebody wants to do something behind you back, you can block or prevent once, twice, three times but if they really want to do it, they will still do it.

Relationship is NOT ownership, it is stewardship.

[Dignified69]

Wah, this cheongster so power ah? Money to buy car and buy house is probably in the range of SGD$200K or more?

As for the thinking how is it when other customer banged her, simple, just don't think. Enjoy what he wants to enjoy, that is the most important. The rest are all past.

For the in contact part, if somebody wants to do something behind you back, you can block or prevent once, twice, three times but if they really want to do it, they will still do it.

Relationship is NOT ownership, it is stewardship.



Respect bruh. Powderful angmoh and powerful idea - Relationship is NOT ownership, it is stewardship.

[Penofthewest]

Wah, this cheongster so power ah? Money to buy car and buy house is probably in the range of SGD$200K or more?

As for the thinking how is it when other customer banged her, simple, just don't think. Enjoy what he wants to enjoy, that is the most important. The rest are all past.

For the in contact part, if somebody wants to do something behind you back, you can block or prevent once, twice, three times but if they really want to do it, they will still do it.

Relationship is NOT ownership, it is stewardship.

Yeah, there was a WL in one of the PRC houses who had a customer buy 5 or more hours everyday so that she doesn’t need to service other men and she has RTC in the last month with his financial support. It is pretty pathetic because she actually secretly still serviced other customers behind his back. For that amount, I think it is probably better to go and bao a KL influencer.

[unfit]

most of us can't resist the temptation of pussy

thus small head overruled

especially at home

impossible for OC to give us such services

my 2ml worth :)

[Triple_H]

Yeah, there was a WL in one of the PRC houses who had a customer buy 5 or more hours everyday so that she doesn’t need to service other men and she has RTC in the last month with his financial support. It is pretty pathetic because she actually secretly still serviced other customers behind his back. For that amount, I think it is probably better to go and bao a KL influencer.

If single go marry viet bride better. But maybe he wanna play his whole life, then maybe become sugar daddy better

[Triple_H]

most of us can't resist the temptation of pussy

thus small head overruled

especially at home

impossible for OC to give us such services

my 2ml worth :)

I treat my session like 1 to 2 hours of happy time with a temporary gf then call it a day.

[unfit]

I treat my session like 1 to 2 hours of happy time with a temporary gf then call it a day.

yes machiam timesharing or pussy leasing:p

actually is better this way ;)

[bradpitt968]

Respect bruh. Powderful angmoh and powerful idea - Relationship is NOT ownership, it is stewardship.

The mindset that we must have towards Relationship (of any kind) must be that it is "Stewardship".

It doesn't means that once a Relationship is established liao, then can relax lah, bo chup liao. Parties involved must still continue to put in effort to maintain that Relationship.

Personally, I feel that the concept of "Marriage" kind of kill this.

Man has to continue to be loving. Woman has to continue to give good sex. This is the great balance and exchange that keep a relationship strong.

One good thing about WLs is that they totally understand that men need good sex. When a man gets sextified to the max, simi lan sai also can. Wash the dish, no problem. Sweep the floor, no problem. Wash the toilet, no problem.

So women instead of learning how to keep themselves looking good and give good sex to their husband which after that their husband will automatically help in housework, they kpkb to make the man feel lousy or end up in quarrel. Men gets angry, get out of the house and go Geylang. Men get comforts.

Over time, relationshiop will drift liao lor.

[bradpitt968]

Hmm. So how she can return to normal love life again, maybe like quit for few years?

One must understand the background of most of this Thai WLs.

The job that they can find, is really hard labourous work. Eg. Harvesting tea leaves in tea plantation for 12-14hrs with 6-7hrs under the hot sun and earn THB$200-400/day (~SGD$8-$16). Can you imagine doing that everyday for a few years? I think I cannot even tahan for 1 month!

Coming to SG and work as WL is 12hrs seating there most of the time and for most houses, maybe have 6-10 customers/day. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that it is easy job to suck the dick of any man and let them penetrate them that walk thru the door. But in terms of the physical strength usage, it is lesser.

I don't think they will take long to get back to normal life as long as got enough money.

[bradpitt968]

Yeah, there was a WL in one of the PRC houses who had a customer buy 5 or more hours everyday so that she doesn’t need to service other men and she has RTC in the last month with his financial support. It is pretty pathetic because she actually secretly still serviced other customers behind his back. For that amount, I think it is probably better to go and bao a KL influencer.

Ok. The rule of the thumb is that we don't use $$ to get love. But we spend $$ on the one who love us.

Last time, I got a regular at L20H36, she will do cosplay etc. Got customer buy whole day for her but customer is not even there and she continues to selectively do customer who she wants.

Frankly, in this time and age, monogamy is more of a concept that religion use to propagate the belief system. In reality, it is not practical. Most people live till about 80yo and only have sex with one person?

[bradpitt968]

This is relationship built on $, once he can't offer it anymore, she will probably dispose of him. I'll not spend this kind of thing on a girl especially a WL, even though I know some of the WL who really want to get over with this quick and return back to normal life.

After spending time in GL with the WLs, I feel that they are there just to temporary fix my deprives. Excellent gfe WLs can satisfy me for quite awhile, but it still doesn't last long enough or feel better than from a ML with developed feelings.

The feeling that we all want is :
Knowing somebody who we love is loving us back. Knowing that somebody is thinking of us, while we are thinking of them.

WL or ML, what matters is the feelings that 2 person have for each other.

[bradpitt968]

most of us can't resist the temptation of pussy

thus small head overruled

especially at home

impossible for OC to give us such services

my 2ml worth :)

The pussy must have with a nice face and body mah. If not, then not shiok liao.

Yes. That's why I say that concept of "Marriage" kind of makes women got lazy in a relationship.

We always hear of men say that sex before marriage solid solid but got married liao, then CMI liao.

[unfit]

The pussy must have with a nice face and body mah. If not, then not shiok liao.

Yes. That's why I say that concept of "Marriage" kind of makes women got lazy in a relationship.

We always hear of men say that sex before marriage solid solid but got married liao, then CMI liao.

Especially wife busy with kids will normally relax on husband... then we have to go outside:p

[bradpitt968]

Hi bros,

Intending to bring back one of my favourites in geylang. Anyone knows the process of applying or sponsor visa for re-entry? Appreciate your info.

Any update? Did you succeeded?

[Fish22]

Hi bros. Reviving this thread because I'm also a lovesick fool. Any updates or news on how to bring exWL back to Singapore?

I am trying to ask her to work a "normal" job in JB with my $$ support for the next 2 years then bring her back in, but she has a kid still in vietnam also. Is it feasible to ask her to bring her kid to Singapore with her if we end up marrying? She can speak english but the kid didn't really learn yet

Or should I prepare to relocate to vietnam haha

[rlskyline]

Hi bros. Reviving this thread because I'm also a lovesick fool. Any updates or news on how to bring exWL back to Singapore?

I am trying to ask her to work a "normal" job in JB with my $$ support for the next 2 years then bring her back in, but she has a kid still in vietnam also. Is it feasible to ask her to bring her kid to Singapore with her if we end up marrying? She can speak english but the kid didn't really learn yet

Or should I prepare to relocate to vietnam haha

better to find another girl and move on?

[Rock999]

Hi bros. Reviving this thread because I'm also a lovesick fool. Any updates or news on how to bring exWL back to Singapore?

I am trying to ask her to work a "normal" job in JB with my $$ support for the next 2 years then bring her back in, but she has a kid still in vietnam also. Is it feasible to ask her to bring her kid to Singapore with her if we end up marrying? She can speak english but the kid didn't really learn yet

Or should I prepare to relocate to vietnam haha

Bro, no offence. You can be love sick but pls don't be a fool. I'm sure others will also say move on. Cheers

[lonelyfish]

Hi bros. Reviving this thread because I'm also a lovesick fool. Any updates or news on how to bring exWL back to Singapore?

I am trying to ask her to work a "normal" job in JB with my $$ support for the next 2 years then bring her back in, but she has a kid still in vietnam also. Is it feasible to ask her to bring her kid to Singapore with her if we end up marrying? She can speak english but the kid didn't really learn yet

Or should I prepare to relocate to vietnam haha

It is really up to you. If you are willing to move and she willing to stick with you, why not? If the regulations here don't suit you, you can choose to go to another place.

Btw, you sure you can apply the marriage in VN? <- I'm interested in this point as well but with a ML.

[galaxyass]

Hi bros. Reviving this thread because I'm also a lovesick fool. Any updates or news on how to bring exWL back to Singapore?

I am trying to ask her to work a "normal" job in JB with my $$ support for the next 2 years then bring her back in, but she has a kid still in vietnam also. Is it feasible to ask her to bring her kid to Singapore with her if we end up marrying? She can speak english but the kid didn't really learn yet

Or should I prepare to relocate to vietnam haha
I think its better to relocate yourself to VN den bringing them here.... i can see that you are going to support them, so its better to do it there... you can substain longer.... anyway its not an easy move.... you need to be prepared.... i have went thr this and it really not as easy as you think it is..

[mikenade]

Hi bros. Reviving this thread because I'm also a lovesick fool. Any updates or news on how to bring exWL back to Singapore?

I am trying to ask her to work a "normal" job in JB with my $$ support for the next 2 years then bring her back in, but she has a kid still in vietnam also. Is it feasible to ask her to bring her kid to Singapore with her if we end up marrying? She can speak english but the kid didn't really learn yet

Or should I prepare to relocate to vietnam haha

ICA ban ex-wl from coming in to sg.
To be safe, just register your marriage in vn first in case she cant come in to sg to ROM. The ROM will still recognize VN marriage cert and convert in ROM.

ICA part is the hardest to get through. The first level is to come into sg first. Must find a way to lift the ban, have to go embassy to do that first. or write to ICA and be sponsor.

2nd level is to get a LTVP. Then 3rd step is PR.

Getting her child is in also another challenge. Schooling will cost more. You have to adopt the kid to be PR to lower your cost...

Lots of challenge ahead of you...

[AhMin]

ICA ban ex-wl from coming in to sg.
To be safe, just register your marriage in vn first in case she cant come in to sg to ROM. The ROM will still recognize VN marriage cert and convert in ROM.

Lots of challenge ahead of you...

Returned - Upz 4 Xchange - AhMin

[Rubbaking]

Hi bros. Reviving this thread because I'm also a lovesick fool. Any updates or news on how to bring exWL back to Singapore?

I am trying to ask her to work a "normal" job in JB with my $$ support for the next 2 years then bring her back in, but she has a kid still in vietnam also. Is it feasible to ask her to bring her kid to Singapore with her if we end up marrying? She can speak english but the kid didn't really learn yet

Or should I prepare to relocate to vietnam haha

No joke bro but i can feel for you. I have a viet gf too and though she can come to sillypore, i rather go over to vietnam for sustainability. Living expenses in sillypore is just silly. She was a FL before and till today i am still going through the torment of when will she decide to go back again. They have earned that kind of money, it is hard to go back. As of now I can provide her half of what she earned only so the insecurity will always be there.

[Fish22]

Thanks bros for all the comments. Yes I know it will be hard path ahead but I still want to try. Past relationships fell through for other reasons, this relationship may fail but I still want to give it a shot. At this point nothing can be committed for either side so not much risk, just trying to think and plan ahead for the future

No joke bro but i can feel for you. I have a viet gf too and though she can come to sillypore, i rather go over to vietnam for sustainability. Living expenses in sillypore is just silly. She was a FL before and till today i am still going through the torment of when will she decide to go back again. They have earned that kind of money, it is hard to go back. As of now I can provide her half of what she earned only so the insecurity will always be there.

Fight on brother. My girl still undecided on whether she wants to go back to FL work in other countries or whether she wants to let me support her. Hope she decides soon, but yes agree that the insecurity will always be there

[bradpitt968]

Hi bros. Reviving this thread because I'm also a lovesick fool. Any updates or news on how to bring exWL back to Singapore?

I am trying to ask her to work a "normal" job in JB with my $$ support for the next 2 years then bring her back in, but she has a kid still in vietnam also. Is it feasible to ask her to bring her kid to Singapore with her if we end up marrying? She can speak english but the kid didn't really learn yet

Or should I prepare to relocate to vietnam haha

You mean you can still earn enough money to support all of you even when you are in Vietnam? If yes, then go. Especially if you are single without kids.

Bringing her kid to Singapore will be most challenging but will be the best for the kid. Aiya, once the kid comes Singaopre for 1-2yrs, will be able to speak English liao.

The biggest factor that can determine whether this will work is money.

[bradpitt968]

It is really up to you. If you are willing to move and she willing to stick with you, why not? If the regulations here don't suit you, you can choose to go to another place.

Btw, you sure you can apply the marriage in VN? <- I'm interested in this point as well but with a ML.

I think getting married in VN is not a problem. It is the life moving forward after that that will be the biggest question.

[bradpitt968]

ICA ban ex-wl from coming in to sg.
To be safe, just register your marriage in vn first in case she cant come in to sg to ROM. The ROM will still recognize VN marriage cert and convert in ROM.

ICA part is the hardest to get through. The first level is to come into sg first. Must find a way to lift the ban, have to go embassy to do that first. or write to ICA and be sponsor.

2nd level is to get a LTVP. Then 3rd step is PR.

Getting her child is in also another challenge. Schooling will cost more. You have to adopt the kid to be PR to lower your cost...

Lots of challenge ahead of you...

Frankly, if your parent and her haven't even met, just get married? Life together is alot more than this.

[bradpitt968]

No joke bro but i can feel for you. I have a viet gf too and though she can come to sillypore, i rather go over to vietnam for sustainability. Living expenses in sillypore is just silly. She was a FL before and till today i am still going through the torment of when will she decide to go back again. They have earned that kind of money, it is hard to go back. As of now I can provide her half of what she earned only so the insecurity will always be there.

Let's face it. She will have her financial goals. She knows how to get there herself even without you.

Once she needs money or decided to pursue her financial goals, she will probably go back to working as WL. Remember love doesn't pay the bills.

[lonelyfish]

Frankly, if your parent and her haven't even met, just get married? Life together is alot more than this.

Tbh, I was trying to work towards a similar path without informing my parents. My parents can't interfere with my life. If you want something different from normal, your family or parents are going to be your biggest obstacle.

I think getting married in VN is not a problem. It is the life moving forward after that that will be the biggest question.

I believe if the girl worked in SG before especially was on WP, there are a lot of obstacles. Now this girl this guy intends to marry was a WL, it might be more difficult. I don't think you can simply register the marriage in VN.

[Fish22]

Hi bros. She lied to me and cheated me.

Few days ago she said she was thinking about going thailand to do FL for money for new year. I told her don't go. I gave her 3k sgd for new year under condition she don't go work FL. She take my money and now I found out she still end up go thailand and doing FL there now. Until I catch her she say she resting at home in vietnam.

Truly I'm a fool for hoping this will work out. Thanks all for comments

[unfit]

Whores are for fucking not loving

Advice from Boss Sam :)

[Ecuader]

Hi bros. She lied to me and cheated me.



Of cos she lied.

Whores with kids this will be their priority ranking

1. Kids
2. Parents
3. Friends
4. Bf/robert/sugar daddy whatever u call it.

[Rubbaking]

Let's face it. She will have her financial goals. She knows how to get there herself even without you.

Once she needs money or decided to pursue her financial goals, she will probably go back to working as WL. Remember love doesn't pay the bills.

Cannot agree more. If a 40ish woman can still work as a WL, anything is possible. End of day, marry someone with values over money, though no judgement to this please, since it is a brutal world outside and inflation puts sanity away

[Rubbaking]

Hi bros. She lied to me and cheated me.

Few days ago she said she was thinking about going thailand to do FL for money for new year. I told her don't go. I gave her 3k sgd for new year under condition she don't go work FL. She take my money and now I found out she still end up go thailand and doing FL there now. Until I catch her she say she resting at home in vietnam.

Truly I'm a fool for hoping this will work out. Thanks all for comments

End if and do not look back bro. To fL who earns like $10-15k easily a month, it is hard to keep their satiety. And tell tale sign also if the girl hardly video call you and show that she is at home daily every single hour. Even so, as long as you are not by her side, it is her words against yours.

[flyguy99]

now u lose 3K is better than u lose 30K in future. I believe she is in Thailand to meet someone… Just my sixth sense… cos she got your 3K and relax liao… but why still wanna go there… like the saying goes.. U can take the girl out of the bar, but u cannot take the bar out of the girl.

don’t be too sad… All the Best to you and may u find tour soul mate soon… 🙏🏻👍

[Ninja_Assassin]

https://www.womensaction.sg/article/migration

“For licensed brothels in Geylang, the workers are given two-year contracts, and when the contract is up, they will have a lifetime travel ban."



I think there has been a change in the regulations.
Only few days ago an ex-WL from JM14 called me and told me she oredi arrived in SGP. ... I did not believe her as she went back to LOS less than 4 months ago. We arranged to meet up and it was true.... she was allowed into SG and can stay up to 30 days. I checked her passport and she was using her real genuine one with everything in order.
But she will only be here for 1 week on holiday with her sister & mum.

I wonder if this new regulations applies to other WLs & FLs too.

[HalimahYakult]

I think there has been a change in the regulations.
Only few days ago an ex-WL from JM14 called me and told me she oredi arrived in SGP. ... I did not believe her as she went back to LOS less than 4 months ago. We arranged to meet up and it was true.... she was allowed into SG and can stay up to 30 days. I checked her passport and she was using her real genuine one with everything in order.
But she will only be here for 1 week on holiday with her sister & mum.

I wonder if this new regulations applies to other WLs & FLs too.

Legit bro? I don't think so leh.. but if really legit it'd be interesting..

[skymud]

Hi bros. She lied to me and cheated me.

Few days ago she said she was thinking about going thailand to do FL for money for new year. I told her don't go. I gave her 3k sgd for new year under condition she don't go work FL. She take my money and now I found out she still end up go thailand and doing FL there now. Until I catch her she say she resting at home in vietnam.

Truly I'm a fool for hoping this will work out. Thanks all for comments

Its heart breaking but trust me, everything will get better from now on. Don't look back and fall for her tricks again.

[nanahoriuchi]

Once a whore always a whore.

[bradpitt968]

Tbh, I was trying to work towards a similar path without informing my parents. My parents can't interfere with my life. If you want something different from normal, your family or parents are going to be your biggest obstacle.



I believe if the girl worked in SG before especially was on WP, there are a lot of obstacles. Now this girl this guy intends to marry was a WL, it might be more difficult. I don't think you can simply register the marriage in VN.

Without informing your parent? Call me old fashion but our parent are the ones who brought us into this world, painstakingly brought us up till we are financially independent.

As a parent myself, we hope really hope the best for our children. We all hope that we could help our children to avoid wrong decision but we all know that we will fail and can only hope for the best.

I really don't know the legally side of thing, so unable to comment more on this.

[bradpitt968]

Hi bros. Reviving this thread because I'm also a lovesick fool. Any updates or news on how to bring exWL back to Singapore?

I am trying to ask her to work a "normal" job in JB with my $$ support for the next 2 years then bring her back in, but she has a kid still in vietnam also. Is it feasible to ask her to bring her kid to Singapore with her if we end up marrying? She can speak english but the kid didn't really learn yet

Or should I prepare to relocate to vietnam haha

Hi bros. She lied to me and cheated me.

Few days ago she said she was thinking about going thailand to do FL for money for new year. I told her don't go. I gave her 3k sgd for new year under condition she don't go work FL. She take my money and now I found out she still end up go thailand and doing FL there now. Until I catch her she say she resting at home in vietnam.

Truly I'm a fool for hoping this will work out. Thanks all for comments

I don't know how long have you been with her. I don't know what are the things that she did for you which makes you sure about her feelings for you but this part is really important.

The most important part in a relationship is mutual feeling. You need to ask yourself whether did she "go the extra mile" to meet you. To see you more often. If you didn't experienced all this, then you need to relook at this "situation".

What was her reaction when you found out that she was lying? How she respond to you is important.

[bradpitt968]

Whores are for fucking not loving

Advice from Boss Sam :)

I would say that you are right for most cases, there will be exception, which will be few.

[bradpitt968]

Cannot agree more. If a 40ish woman can still work as a WL, anything is possible. End of day, marry someone with values over money, though no judgement to this please, since it is a brutal world outside and inflation puts sanity away

As the saying goes : We are as faithful as our options.

With more money, we will have more options.

Marriage is over-rated. Just be gf bf can liao. Yes, the cold hard truth about the world is that money makes the world go round.

Having said all that, if you can find "true love", do cherish it, enjoy it. But do always remembers that "nothing is forever".

[bradpitt968]

I think there has been a change in the regulations.
Only few days ago an ex-WL from JM14 called me and told me she oredi arrived in SGP. ... I did not believe her as she went back to LOS less than 4 months ago. We arranged to meet up and it was true.... she was allowed into SG and can stay up to 30 days. I checked her passport and she was using her real genuine one with everything in order.
But she will only be here for 1 week on holiday with her sister & mum.

I wonder if this new regulations applies to other WLs & FLs too.

I think you are right.

Seriously? Only left Singapore 4 months ago and can come back into Singapore?

[bradpitt968]

Once a whore always a whore.

Objectively, we all do what we need to do, to survive.

We are born in Singapore and we are very fortunate. Because we got more options.

As long as we don't rob, we don't cheat, we don't scam, whatever we do to earn money is ok. Being sex workers is not easy, frankly no shame for them.

[lonelyfish]

Without informing your parent? Call me old fashion but our parent are the ones who brought us into this world, painstakingly brought us up till we are financially independent.

As a parent myself, we hope really hope the best for our children. We all hope that we could help our children to avoid wrong decision but we all know that we will fail and can only hope for the best.

I really don't know the legally side of thing, so unable to comment more on this.

There is no wrong decision in this world it is really just the opinion of the society. Initially I wanted to register with my ML without letting my parents know about it. But we changed our mind due to various reasons, the fact it is impossible for me help support her current few kids and also to make one with her, remained as FB. Now she RTV. Tbh, she is a very nice lady and very responsible to her kids. A pity she have to go thru this cuz her ex-husband divorce her.

Now is another girl, a normal girl. Why don't inform? Because my parents are very particular with the background of the girl especially on the education and job, this one is at most passed sec sch in her home country and can only do menial jobs. My parents and relatives always $ here $ there which I don't care about. What I want is not what they or the majority of people wants. I already cut off 95% of my relatives. 先斩后奏 is the only way to get the kind of woman I want.

[lonelyfish]

Objectively, we all do what we need to do, to survive.

We are born in Singapore and we are very fortunate. Because we got more options.

As long as we don't rob, we don't cheat, we don't scam, whatever we do to earn money is ok. Being sex workers is not easy, frankly no shame for them.

After interacting with WLs, MLs and more locally or overseas, many of them are in this plight because of unforeseen situations or living conditions. Quite a lot of them just started to enter this line but couldn't bring themselves to stay for long. While WLs and FLs need to satisfy men during the whole time, there are many MLs who are at most willing to give a HJ. Not all sex workers really want to be a sex worker.

[Accounts]

Hi bros. She lied to me and cheated me.

Few days ago she said she was thinking about going thailand to do FL for money for new year. I told her don't go. I gave her 3k sgd for new year under condition she don't go work FL. She take my money and now I found out she still end up go thailand and doing FL there now. Until I catch her she say she resting at home in vietnam.

Truly I'm a fool for hoping this will work out. Thanks all for comments

Sorry to say but your 3k is nothing to her.

She can easily earn 30-40k per mth in this trade

[bradpitt968]

There is no wrong decision in this world it is really just the opinion of the society. Initially I wanted to register with my ML without letting my parents know about it. But we changed our mind due to various reasons, the fact it is impossible for me help support her current few kids and also to make one with her, remained as FB. Now she RTV. Tbh, she is a very nice lady and very responsible to her kids. A pity she have to go thru this cuz her ex-husband divorce her.

Now is another girl, a normal girl. Why don't inform? Because my parents are very particular with the background of the girl especially on the education and job, this one is at most passed sec sch in her home country and can only do menial jobs. My parents and relatives always $ here $ there which I don't care about. What I want is not what they or the majority of people wants. I already cut off 95% of my relatives. 先斩后奏 is the only way to get the kind of woman I want.

Oic. Your family is atas one lah. That's why your parent got high expectation.

Now after you explain, I understand why you want to do that liao.

All the best for your pursuit.

[bradpitt968]

After interacting with WLs, MLs and more locally or overseas, many of them are in this plight because of unforeseen situations or living conditions. Quite a lot of them just started to enter this line but couldn't bring themselves to stay for long. While WLs and FLs need to satisfy men during the whole time, there are many MLs who are at most willing to give a HJ. Not all sex workers really want to be a sex worker.

Yes. Precisely.

In any case, I would say that I really respect them for providing service to men. They didn't scam or cheat or rob but rather provide services to earn money. I would consider them as making a honest living.

[lonelyfish]

Yes. Precisely.

In any case, I would say that I really respect them for providing service to men. They didn't scam or cheat or rob but rather provide services to earn money. I would consider them as making a honest living.

I used to keep visiting regular WLs in GL. Everyone who visits GL have their deprive to fix. Some want need the gfe to fix their lack of companionship, but most just want a release. But the fact that most bros just treat them like living sex dolls made it very difficult for them to maintain gfe. They offer standard full service without feeling, that's not what I want. I salute my favourite WLs who RTC for enduring all the abuse and yet still able to maintain their level of gfe throughout their time here. But relationship never developed and I never thought of having them back to keep them. Nice to see them going about their normal life now though.

So I went to unlock MLs. It is very different from heading to GL. You don't get professional full service, but if you picked the right ML, the chemistry could build a relationship. Can maintain longer term relationship but very addictive. Of course, you might not the only one, but it is way lesser than GL's daily abuse that the girl have to endure. If you picked those neglected ones, the feel is like dating a gf.

Tbh it is cheaper (ymmv) to just fuck in GL and minus the risk of getting caught in raids. But strong feel from the chemistry built up is missing. I only head to GL when my ML is unavailable. Even those I chiong in BKK, either there are some girls I want to try, or the girls were ex-MLs who quit after 1 mth of working. Many of them also don't want to get into this line.

[unfit]

I would say that you are right for most cases, there will be exception, which will be few.

kena too many honey traps and milk dry dry liao :o

[lonelyfish]

Oic. Your family is atas one lah. That's why your parent got high expectation.

Now after you explain, I understand why you want to do that liao.

All the best for your pursuit.

Going out of the norm isn't what parents want. They will expect that you fit and live with society. But if you want a different path, you need to fend for yourself and sacrifice a lot of things including family ties. And of course, taking measures not to fall into a trap. While there are genuinely good WLs and MLs around, the effort involved to keep them with you is too much. That's why we gave up to just remain as FB and I decided to work on another.

[lonelyfish]

kena too many honey traps and milk dry dry liao :o

The addictive ones are those that you don't spend a lot on.

[bradpitt968]

kena too many honey traps and milk dry dry liao :o

Yah. Many many other guys also kena before.

Understand how you feel.

[Ninja_Assassin]

Legit bro? I don't think so leh.. but if really legit it'd be interesting..

I was surprised too...... I dunno how she managed to return here but all her travel papers were in order.

[bradpitt968]

I was surprised too...... I dunno how she managed to return here but all her travel papers were in order.

This is interesting and good! I have PM-ed you, please kindly reply.

TIA.

[HalimahYakult]

I was surprised too...... I dunno how she managed to return here but all her travel papers were in order.

She confirm cut card and actually exited Singapore? Or just never work and hide in room and tell people she went back before?

[unfit]

She confirm cut card and actually exited Singapore? Or just never work and hide in room and tell people she went back before?

if she’s holding her own passport is true cos operator suppose to safekeep till termination of medical card then send to ica (now) last time at airport counter :)

[bradpitt968]

I was surprised too...... I dunno how she managed to return here but all her travel papers were in order.

I think I found out who liao. Found the possible reason also liao.

[apollo79]

I think I found out who liao. Found the possible reason also liao.

Curious to know how bro. Pls PM me. Many thanks.

[HideWong]

I think I found out who liao. Found the possible reason also liao.

I'm quite curious about this as well in regards to the possible reason, do PM if about it if you dont mind :) thanks in advance!

[unfit]

I think I found out who liao. Found the possible reason also liao.

can share with me DaiGor ;)

[bradpitt968]

I asked Ninga_Assassin here, no reply. PM him to ask which gal, he also didn't reply me.

Make it hard for me to verify.

[unfit]

I asked Ninga_Assassin here, no reply. PM him to ask which gal, he also didn't reply me.

Make it hard for me to verify.

just curious how she back so fast

which girl never mind

most important how to cum so fast :D

[Rubbaking]

It is tough maintaining a relationship with a wl. Once any fights break out between you and her, there may be times you will scold her a wl, which can be degrading to both parties. Though i agree with some brothers here that is is an honest living albeit easy way out and sheer will power to ignore those men who may not be so appealing

[unfit]

It is tough maintaining a relationship with a wl. Once any fights break out between you and her, there may be times you will scold her a wl, which can be degrading to both parties. Though i agree with some brothers here that is is an honest living albeit easy way out and sheer will power to ignore those men who may not be so appealing

My friend said to wife that she's sex worker and wife reply him whoremonger:D

After that everything back to normal;)

He dislikes her previous customers still contact her :)

That's all:p

PS . my friend go RLD almost daily:D

[Ecuader]

just curious how she back so fast

which girl never mind

most important how to cum so fast :D

Ica sleeping.

I’ve seen former GL Thai came in as FL.

Her first attempt ask me to be her guarantor I say no.
She attempted to enter n got Sent back.

Her 2nd attempt she succeed entering.
Didn’t tell me how she did it.

[naan1974]

Been around for 2 decades in the GL . Seen and been thru too many shit and self KC experiences.
The moment you self declare ownership, the agony starts. Now i choose to let
other regulars be their boyfriend and i just fuck their girlfriend behind their back lor. hahaha!

[unfit]

Ica sleeping.

I’ve seen former GL Thai came in as FL.

Her first attempt ask me to be her guarantor I say no.
She attempted to enter n got Sent back.

Her 2nd attempt she succeed entering.
Didn’t tell me how she did it.

that’s why curious cos many kena u turn flight home :D

[bradpitt968]

Been around for 2 decades in the GL . Seen and been thru too many shit and self KC experiences.
The moment you self declare ownership, the agony starts. Now i choose to let
other regulars be their boyfriend and i just fuck their girlfriend behind their back lor. hahaha!

Yes. This is best liao.

[Rubbaking]

My friend said to wife that she's sex worker and wife reply him whoremonger:D

After that everything back to normal;)

He dislikes her previous customers still contact her :)

That's all:p

PS . my friend go RLD almost daily:D

What is RLD bro? And I would think first thing first if to be with a WL, have to ensure the WL cut off all contacts with ex customers. Imagine having 100s of ex bfs contacting the wife. Well, many men are whoremongers but not many women are WLs. Again, with all due respect, if is still an honest and super difficult job. If I am a woman and I have to survive to be a WL to survive, I really do not fathom how can I have sex with men I dislike

[Rubbaking]

Ica sleeping.

I’ve seen former GL Thai came in as FL.

Her first attempt ask me to be her guarantor I say no.
She attempted to enter n got Sent back.

Her 2nd attempt she succeed entering.
Didn’t tell me how she did it.

Fake passport and name? Singapore is digital leh. Did not even need to check passport but just check system will have records liao. Got a viet friend who has a s pass before in singapore but everytime upon entering singapore, also kena questioned left right centre. Even ask her what job she was doing last time and what did she do daily during her work and if she remembers the address of the work place.

[unfit]

Red light district :D

me personally attended wedding dinner of ex WL twice already :p

impossible to cut all ties cos they will maintain certain nice guys as bff;)

same goes to asking hubby stop hiring prostitute :)

[Ninja_Assassin]

impossible to cut all ties cos they will maintain certain nice guys as bff;)



I keep the contacts of several ex-WLs / FLs in my little black book. Even though they may have balik kampung..... they are open to meet up if I am travelling to their country. I often use them as my travelling companion / guide if I am travelling alone.

[unfit]

I keep the contacts of several ex-WLs / FLs in my little black book. Even though they may have balik kampung..... they are open to meet up if I am travelling to their country. I often use them as my travelling companion / guide if I am travelling alone.

me too :p no black book but updated contact:)

nice to catch up but provided that they are able to take time off from family;)

Am sure many samsters here are doing that too :D

[Ecuader]

Fake passport and name? Singapore is digital leh.

I don’t know how she did it. Cos I met her in sg when she came in as FL.
Don’t put words in my mouth! I didn’t say anything about fake passports.
She probably got someone to guarantee for her. Okts wanna get her in, they have their ways.

[bradpitt968]

I don’t know how she did it. Cos I met her in sg when she came in as FL.
Don’t put words in my mouth! I didn’t say anything about fake passports.
She probably got someone to guarantee for her. Okts wanna get her in, they have their ways.

FL is different from WL in Geylang Legal houses. As long as she is not being caught, she can still come back.

We are talking about WL in Geylang legal houses, after going back, how can they come back Singapore again.

[Kingoh]

FL is different from WL in Geylang Legal houses. As long as she is not being caught, she can still come back.

We are talking about WL in Geylang legal houses, after going back, how can they come back Singapore again.

If I'm not wrong. They can only come after after 2 or 3 years

[unfit]

If I'm not wrong. They can only come after after 2 or 3 years

Confirm cannot

Many kena u turn although passed 5 years mark

[Beckham07]

Delete……..

[Ninja_Assassin]

Confirm cannot

Many kena u turn although passed 5 years mark

That WL from JM14 came back less than a year after balik kampung.
Maybe the ICA officer at T4 sleeping in her case..... or maybe because she came together with her sister & mother they close one eye.

Still wondering how she did it..... or the regulations really has been changed. I did ask my sources in Cantonment..... no one is saying anything at this moment.
Their standard reply is "wait for announcement."...... KNN all kenna spook by this OSA nonsense.

[unfit]

That WL from JM14 came back less than a year after balik kampung.
Maybe the ICA officer at T4 sleeping in her case..... or maybe because she came together with her sister & mother they close one eye.

Still wondering how she did it..... or the regulations really has been changed. I did ask my sources in Cantonment..... no one is saying anything at this moment.
Their standard reply is "wait for announcement."...... KNN all kenna spook by this OSA nonsense.

wow social visit with family can work:eek:

really surprised 👍👍👍

[Kingoh]

Maybe she came back to finish off her term work. If not she'll be barred from entering for 2yrs

[bradpitt968]

That WL from JM14 came back less than a year after balik kampung.
Maybe the ICA officer at T4 sleeping in her case..... or maybe because she came together with her sister & mother they close one eye.

Still wondering how she did it..... or the regulations really has been changed. I did ask my sources in Cantonment..... no one is saying anything at this moment.
Their standard reply is "wait for announcement."...... KNN all kenna spook by this OSA nonsense.

Finally, you replied. Wah, you got contact at the Anti Vice side, solid lah. Paiseh. What is OSA?

[bradpitt968]

Confirm cannot

Many kena u turn although passed 5 years mark

Did this ex GL WL has a sponsor / guarantor?

[unfit]

Finally, you replied. Wah, you got contact at the Anti Vice side, solid lah. Paiseh. What is OSA?

Official secret act

[unfit]

Did this ex GL WL has a sponsor / guarantor?

before visa free era confirm need guarantor plus deposit

undertaking many rules and regulations



awaiting Bro Ninja update about new rules

Fingers Crossed 🤞

[bradpitt968]

before visa free era confirm need guarantor plus deposit

undertaking many rules and regulations



awaiting Bro Ninja update about new rules

Fingers Crossed 🤞

Need guarantor should be ok. But deposit is like how much? Refundable correct?

[MichaelWinn]

I think its better to relocate yourself to VN den bringing them here.... i can see that you are going to support them, so its better to do it there... you can substain longer.... anyway its not an easy move.... you need to be prepared.... i have went thr this and it really not as easy as you think it is..

Hi bro relocating means giving up our spore citizenship?and becomes pr in vietnam or thailand? Spore does not allow dual citizenship ...if we are able to fully withdraw the cpf money once we relocated forever?is there a safety net if things do not work out?meaning we may come back to spore again in the future..thanks for your insights

[MichaelWinn]

Need guarantor should be ok. But deposit is like how much? Refundable correct?

For two weeks visit deposit is about 1000...for one month social visit the deposit is likely 2k....based on my experience with prc ladies many years ago....above rough guideline only...just to share

[bradpitt968]

For two weeks visit deposit is about 1000...for one month social visit the deposit is likely 2k....based on my experience with prc ladies many years ago....above rough guideline only...just to share

$1K, $2K, still ok. So the deposit give to who? Is it refundable?

[MichaelWinn]

$1K, $2K, still ok. So the deposit give to who? Is it refundable?

You need to go down to ica personally with the girl...you can submit the deposit there...you will be given an offical receipt from ica....it is refundable once she exits spore...no breach of conditions..i e never caught for solicting or she never overstay

[MichaelWinn]

FL is different from WL in Geylang Legal houses. As long as she is not being caught, she can still come back.

We are talking about WL in Geylang legal houses, after going back, how can they come back Singapore again.

Best way is marry her in thailand first..have one child with her...then apply spore citizenship for the child...once the child is spore citizen then she can come in on family visit....one prc lady ex legal house did it...took 7 years before she come in again..you must bring the child to spore for school etc...

[MichaelWinn]

Ica sleeping.

I’ve seen former GL Thai came in as FL.

Her first attempt ask me to be her guarantor I say no.
She attempted to enter n got Sent back.

Her 2nd attempt she succeed entering.
Didn’t tell me how she did it.

Is she at dome 1 now? There are several ways...use a tour agency to sponsor her or use a spore registered company....business visa...but she must dress like businesswoman..and carry company namecard

[bradpitt968]

Is she at dome 1 now? There are several ways...use a tour agency to sponsor her or use a spore registered company....business visa...but she must dress like businesswoman..and carry company namecard

Seriously can use tour agency to sponsor her to come?

Using Singapore registered company to register as busines visa, I feel is a long shot. If people set up a $2 company, I don't think can right? So must be those legit running business type. So only those bosses can do this liao. Electronic business namecard can be done easily mah. LOL!

[MichaelWinn]

Seriously can use tour agency to sponsor her to come?

Using Singapore registered company to register as busines visa, I feel is a long shot. If people set up a $2 company, I don't think can right? So must be those legit running business type. So only those bosses can do this liao. Electronic business namecard can be done easily mah. LOL!
Tour agency can..but she must take a tour package..when come in airport she must show the ica the tour iternary as printed by the tour package....at all times she must stay with the tour group and tour guide and cannot go missing in action..lol

[unfit]

Need guarantor should be ok. But deposit is like how much? Refundable correct?

security bond from ntuc income:p

[MichaelWinn]

security bond from ntuc income:p

The security bond must be from local contact ie spore citizen or spore registered company lol;)

[Citizens]

I am curious too..... has SG changed its laws?

I know a vietbu working in one of the JB spas.
She used to work in a KTV in SG and was caught and sent back abt 2 years ago.
She had tried to return to SG once but was denied entry at Changi airport.
So she ended up working in JB.
Last week a customer booked her for 3 days and took her to SG for staycation at MBS.
Surprisingly she was allowed to enter Woodlands checkpoint without any issues at all. And her journey back to JB was smooth sailing too.

Does that mean she is no longer on the blacklist?
Has SG changed their rules for those deported?

[MichaelWinn]

I am curious too..... has SG changed its laws?

I know a vietbu working in one of the JB spas.
She used to work in a KTV in SG and was caught and sent back abt 2 years ago.
She had tried to return to SG once but was denied entry at Changi airport.
So she ended up working in JB.
Last week a customer booked her for 3 days and took her to SG for staycation at MBS.
Surprisingly she was allowed to enter Woodlands checkpoint without any issues at all. And her journey back to JB was smooth sailing too.

Does that mean she is no longer on the blacklist?
Has SG changed their rules for those deported?

I am sure she was allowed to enter this time because the customer who booked for three days became her sponsor gaurantor...this makes a difference...if she came alone very hard to enter by herself

[michglim]

how stupid you have to be to fall for a WL? use your brain. if want a wife go thailand or vietnma find a normal white collar worker also better.

just have fun and enjoy the sex and talks and that's it.

[bradpitt968]

I am sure she was allowed to enter this time because the customer who booked for three days became her sponsor gaurantor...this makes a difference...if she came alone very hard to enter by herself

How did the guy do that? Go ICA or what? Is there a link to apply that kind? LOL!

[MichaelWinn]

How did the guy do that? Go ICA or what? Is there a link to apply that kind? LOL!

The customer and girl enter spore using same lane...upon arrival both are led to the office to see duty officer...he furnish security bond and undertaking inside...

[bradpitt968]

The customer and girl enter spore using same lane...upon arrival both are led to the office to see duty officer...he furnish security bond and undertaking inside...

Like that can meh? Must follow together? Cannot like settle everything with ICA and then the gal just comes in on her own?

[Ninja_Assassin]

The customer and girl enter spore using same lane...upon arrival both are led to the office to see duty officer...he furnish security bond and undertaking inside...

Can meh?
I thought interview is always done with the lady alone in the room and no others allowed..... sponsors, agents, relatives, interpreter etc all have to wait outside.

[bradpitt968]

Up for more sharing of any success or unsuccessful cases.

[LordYama]

Please do share more..there is an ex prc wl who left about 10 yrs ago contacted me..she want to come back as a tourist..now that dun need visa, i wonder wats the process for her to come over..can she just buy a air tix n fly in?

[naan1974]

Someone mentioned a ex WL Vietbu was be able to enter with a sponsored guarantor.
(i will take that with a huge pinch of salt)
Banking on exception, that is usually extraordinarily disheartening.
Do Share your positive insights should you have any success

[Ecuader]

Please do share more..there is an ex prc wl who left about 10 yrs ago contacted me..she want to come back as a tourist..now that dun need visa, i wonder wats the process for her to come over..can she just buy a air tix n fly in?

Her records is there forever. She ask u to
Be her guarantor?

[LordYama]

Her records is there forever. She ask u to
Be her guarantor?

Nope. She din ask me to be her guarantor (at least not yet)..she just ask me to check what is the process for her to come in as a tourist..guess she dun want to come in with her family and get turned away at customs..she wld hv a hard time explaining to her family why she got turned away

[MichaelWinn]

Malaysia is a favourite place for those ex wls who enter spore before and but cannot come in again on her 2nd and 3rd try...remember dome 1 onesiam used to have one wl 40ee boobs rita with raw services..she now plying her trade in kuala lumpur

[Rubbaking]

Can meh?
I thought interview is always done with the lady alone in the room and no others allowed..... sponsors, agents, relatives, interpreter etc all have to wait outside.

That is what i know too as i kena before

[HalimahYakult]

Please do share more..there is an ex prc wl who left about 10 yrs ago contacted me..she want to come back as a tourist..now that dun need visa, i wonder wats the process for her to come over..can she just buy a air tix n fly in?

Heard sign up with tour group can.. Dunno how true..

[unfit]

Heard sign up with tour group can.. Dunno how true..

before visa free one ex wl tried but denied entry

she was told to stay at holding area till group return

sibay heartless:eek:

Now visa free no ex wl try:)

[bradpitt968]

You need to go down to ica personally with the girl...you can submit the deposit there...you will be given an offical receipt from ica....it is refundable once she exits spore...no breach of conditions..i e never caught for solicting or she never overstay

How is the gal going to enter Singapore then go ICA in the first place? LOL!

[HalimahYakult]

Forget it la just ask her go JB meet you or rent house let her stay. Most PRC girls see JB so backward won't stay long. If they stay long means really love you.

[unfit]

Forget it la just ask her go JB meet you or rent house let her stay. Most PRC girls see JB so backward won't stay long. If they stay long means really love you.

go also don't want...told me no kl no talk :D

[HalimahYakult]

go also don't want...told me no kl no talk :D

Even KL no stay klcc no talk..

[unfit]

Even KL no stay klcc no talk..

nowadays they wanna milk us dry dry:D

[bradpitt968]

nowadays they wanna milk us dry dry:D

Do you mean your dick or wallet? LOL!

[bradpitt968]

Forget it la just ask her go JB meet you or rent house let her stay. Most PRC girls see JB so backward won't stay long. If they stay long means really love you.

How do they get to stay for long term in Malaysia?

[Citizens]

How do they get to stay for long term in Malaysia?

So many types of visas and passes available for those that want to stay longterm..... only scared you no money to apply.
And approval is so much faster and easier than our neighbour's ICA.

[unfit]

Do you mean your dick or wallet? LOL!

they loves Yusofs and Maos only :D

[bradpitt968]

So many types of visas and passes available for those that want to stay longterm..... only scared you no money to apply.
And approval is so much faster and easier than our neighbour's ICA.

Yah lah. But problem is don't have so much money, then how leh?

[Rubbaking]

Yah lah. But problem is don't have so much money, then how leh?

Lan lan stick to video call and jerking off.

[bradpitt968]

Lan lan stick to video call and jerking off.

Like that not shiok leh.

[Rubbaking]

Like that not shiok leh.

Then lan lan got to bleed for shiokness. But probably better than bleed in clubs.

[bradpitt968]

Then lan lan got to bleed for shiokness. But probably better than bleed in clubs.

Don't want lah. Still want to enjoy but at a budget leh.

[Rubbaking]

Don't want lah. Still want to enjoy but at a budget leh.

True, at least will not bleed a luxury car. But long term over-haul is expensive too.

[bradpitt968]

Upz for sharing of success cases and tips on this.

[foxtro]

most GL houses only have 6-10 customers a day?
thought it would be much more. wonder whether people can share their observations

One must understand the background of most of this Thai WLs.

The job that they can find, is really hard labourous work. Eg. Harvesting tea leaves in tea plantation for 12-14hrs with 6-7hrs under the hot sun and earn THB$200-400/day (~SGD$8-$16). Can you imagine doing that everyday for a few years? I think I cannot even tahan for 1 month!

Coming to SG and work as WL is 12hrs seating there most of the time and for most houses, maybe have 6-10 customers/day. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that it is easy job to suck the dick of any man and let them penetrate them that walk thru the door. But in terms of the physical strength usage, it is lesser.

I don't think they will take long to get back to normal life as long as got enough money.

[10003508]

most GL houses only have 6-10 customers a day?
thought it would be much more. wonder whether people can share their observations

One ex-WL that I am friends with shared that she usually made about 8k per month here. That's about 11 sessions a day at 30 dollars each, 25 days a month.

She was from one of the most popular houses, and usually have short queue for her, so she definitely had more business than the average thai girl at the crappy houses that always sit in fish tank.

I think 10 customers sounds normal for the reasonably popular girls, and 6 for the more jialat ones, who rely on Sunday foreign workers to boost their numbers lol.

The best angpai of course can back-to-back up to 30 sessions a day. Kena fuck for 12 hour straight everyday, Can make 20k per month.

[bradpitt968]

One ex-WL that I am friends with shared that she usually made about 8k per month here. That's about 11 sessions a day at 30 dollars each, 25 days a month.

She was from one of the most popular houses, and usually have short queue for her, so she definitely had more business than the average thai girl at the crappy houses that always sit in fish tank.

I think 10 customers sounds normal for the reasonably popular girls, and 6 for the more jialat ones, who rely on Sunday foreign workers to boost their numbers lol.

The best angpai of course can back-to-back up to 30 sessions a day. Kena fuck for 12 hour straight everyday, Can make 20k per month.

Yah. $20K/mth x 24 = $480K!! Which is like 10yrs income of a typical fresh grads. If the WLs is wise, knows what to do with her $$, she just need to work for 10yrs.

I think basically, a large percentage of Thailand's economy rely on all the foreign $$ that goes back to Thailand via WLs.

[bradpitt968]

Just curious, does any of you know what is the difference if a SG guy and a TH gal were to register marriage in Thailand vs in Singapore?

[galaxyass]

Just curious, does any of you know what is the difference if a SG guy and a TH gal were to register marriage in Thailand vs in Singapore?
There is not much diff as long as you produce the marriage cert... however if you plan to stay in SG, its better to do it here as it will cut short all the application process if its a SG marriage cert... if you plan to stay there, den do it there...

[10003508]

Yah. $20K/mth x 24 = $480K!! Which is like 10yrs income of a typical fresh grads. If the WLs is wise, knows what to do with her $$, she just need to work for 10yrs.

I think basically, a large percentage of Thailand's economy rely on all the foreign $$ that goes back to Thailand via WLs.

Ya 20k is a lot of money, but I also dunno how these angpai tahan.

Most girls I have been with get fuck for one hour complain pussy sore liao. Imagine get fuck for 12 hours everyday, confirm pussy pain.


But realistically I think most WL here probably don't make a lot of money. I see the WH girls everyday sit in tank, maybe only have 6-7 customers a day only, probably only make 5-6k per month

[Senorita9876]

Ya 20k is a lot of money, but I also dunno how these angpai tahan.

Most girls I have been with get fuck for one hour complain pussy sore liao. Imagine get fuck for 12 hours everyday, confirm pussy pain.


But realistically I think most WL here probably don't make a lot of money. I see the WH girls everyday sit in tank, maybe only have 6-7 customers a day only, probably only make 5-6k per month
The wl that I go to gets minimum 15 customers a day. On weekend and public holiday can be up to 30+ customers

I think they are numb to sex already. Just put some lube, moan and maybe think of money or other things while looking at you

I wonder if there is permanent damage to her pussy but who cares

They earn maybe 10-12k a month after expenses if they don’t throw money around. After 2 years they don’t have to work anymore in their life if they are smart with money- like buy a condo and rent out or something

[Dignified69]

The wl that I go to gets minimum 15 customers a day. On weekend and public holiday can be up to 30+ customers

I think they are numb to sex already. Just put some lube, moan and maybe think of money or other things while looking at you

I wonder if there is permanent damage to her pussy but who cares

They earn maybe 10-12k a month after expenses if they don’t throw money around. After 2 years they don’t have to work anymore in their life if they are smart with money- like buy a condo and rent out or something

Some of the ones I was friendly with says it goes numb down there and they dont really feel anything. I wonder if the normal sensation comes back with time and no more multiple fucks