How to know if she truly loves you or just wants your money

[Chrisk456]

not even boyfriends, sometimes they have husbands 😂
and this really happened. My friend got into a lot of debt, and used customer money from the company he worked for, because he fell in love and felt sorry for WL. I warned him but he believes WL is not playing with him. but in the end it was discovered that WL only took as much money as possible from my friend and then disappeared.

Poor guy. Felt sorry for your friend. I hope other bros learn to diversify their hard earned money. Why someone not rich enough would give it all at a girl who works in GL? Why!?

[alvencalve]

That was painful bro im gonna cry lol so please to all other guys out there whose trying to make ends meet every month, 1 session is enough for 1 girl, can have 2 or more if service was good. They came here for money, not for romance.

Yeahhh right . Even not all WL like that but maybe only 1% from 100% in this world . Then back to the our goal . Only for have fun not to make our life broken

[Easivz]

not even boyfriends, sometimes they have husbands 😂
and this really happened. My friend got into a lot of debt, and used customer money from the company he worked for, because he fell in love and felt sorry for WL. I warned him but he believes WL is not playing with him. but in the end it was discovered that WL only took as much money as possible from my friend and then disappeared.

Very bad yeahh

[Rubbaking]

Yes. Who does that? Everytime go back GL take the same WL non stop so boring. Definitely a buffet is much better than the same chicken rice no matter how good it is. Bad thing is WL always, always wants the money. Once receive money put on mask of sweetness and fake lies and the TS now fall in love with fantasy.

Guys who fall into this trap is now living in a borrowed time. Once WL return expect you all get blocked/ignored/forgotten already. They all have own lives back home sometimes got a BF. They worked in different brothels, massage houses in every country they know before coming to GL but this TS think he is the first time becoming the knight in shining armor for the WL. Never thought about it huh?

Enjoy life lah! Go thai-viet-prc all the same night or at different times. Different girl, different race, different service, different feeling. No need for attachment. If TS want a wife go find in dating app or workplace much better.

Agreed. Just that hard to find hotties on dating sites and even if there is, 90% are scams.

[nllzboy]

That was painful bro im gonna cry lol so please to all other guys out there whose trying to make ends meet every month, 1 session is enough for 1 girl, can have 2 or more if service was good. They came here for money, not for romance.

Yeah . That the reality right. Then for guys try to play with them dont put too much feeling . They have real life

[Chrisk456]

Stumble upon this thread when I need help.. maybe is fate..

Some background, started to chiong 2 years ago only when covid re-open GL. I was a virgin back then, first time was some dirty massage place to a vietbu in 30s..

After that go to fish tanks, at first was very paranoid for STDs everytime , will request for cap BJ always and no kissing even if the girl dun mind. Will go dsc for check up every 6 months or so, back then I chiong at most once a month after pay day...

Fast forward to few months ago, due to some personal and work stress, I began visit GL every week once even twice. I avoid those $60 house, found a $100 Thai house with good quality girls..

Recently I keep visiting a same girl (3-4 times) and I even gotten her line at the last visit. I haven’t message her but she told me she next week one week no work., maybe is hinting me to jio her? Idk…..

This siambu reminds me of my crush in sch last time (I loser liked a girl one sided for 3-4 years) .. I’m not sure should I just try to jio her out and make her my “girlfriend”…
I know it probably won’t end well… she may not even reply me line… but idk… need some advices from bros here


This thread got revived because of this bro. Can you mind telling us what happened to you? You already moved on or still cannot tahan with the same WL?

To anyone feeling trapped in the KC game. FYI, this month and next month many WLs will return already. If you guys lost the game please go back to this thread and share your lessons for our future reference. I would also be happy to accompany you for a drink and find some real girl. Ill be your wingman, happy to help.

[Render]

Yeah the first batch of fls after covid are all reaching their 2 years now.

Any bros wanna share stories of the legendary wls?

[bradpitt968]

maybe not jealousy. but men sometimes always have a side that doesn't want to lose. like thinking "shit he not rich but he can be with that girl" so more precisely it's about pride maybe. Idk its right / no ,but this is my opinion bro

Yah. You are right.

Frankly, usually guy who are not so horny and never bang WLs will think that "wah lau, WLs so dirty, banged by so many guys liao, don't want lah". But for most of us here, if we see an ang pai with a guy, really envious that guy lor.

[bradpitt968]

Most of the time envious. I guess there are two types of guys but not generalising. One group is who go for girls who are doing well so they do not have to come up with a dime and they can make do with a hole only. Another type would be who die die prefer to be with a chiobu and have the means to support them.

Yah. Kind of like that.

The worst one are those guys who want a girl that is busty, chio, good in bed and plus knows how to make money. They must learn to self evaluate lor.

[bradpitt968]

Yes. Who does that? Everytime go back GL take the same WL non stop so boring. Definitely a buffet is much better than the same chicken rice no matter how good it is. Bad thing is WL always, always wants the money. Once receive money put on mask of sweetness and fake lies and the TS now fall in love with fantasy.

Guys who fall into this trap is now living in a borrowed time. Once WL return expect you all get blocked/ignored/forgotten already. They all have own lives back home sometimes got a BF. They worked in different brothels, massage houses in every country they know before coming to GL but this TS think he is the first time becoming the knight in shining armor for the WL. Never thought about it huh?

Enjoy life lah! Go thai-viet-prc all the same night or at different times. Different girl, different race, different service, different feeling. No need for attachment. If TS want a wife go find in dating app or workplace much better.

Yes, most are like that. But there will always be exception.

Dating apps, chio ones are usually scammers. Not chio but real, FDW. LOL!

First, one must ask yourself "What do I want to have a wife?". Answer this question and then you know one's priority.

[bradpitt968]

Agreed. Just that hard to find hotties on dating sites and even if there is, 90% are scams.

Yes. I fed up with dating apps liao, so I usually chat up gals whenever I see a chio busty one, everywhere I go. I trained until I can chat up gals anywhere liao.

[Rubbaking]

Yes. I fed up with dating apps liao, so I usually chat up gals whenever I see a chio busty one, everywhere I go. I trained until I can chat up gals anywhere liao.

Guru liao. But seriously where to find chio busty in sg. Its like needle in hay.

[Rubbaking]

Yah. Kind of like that.

The worst one are those guys who want a girl that is busty, chio, good in bed and plus knows how to make money. They must learn to self evaluate lor.

Girls like that all taken up long long ago liao. Where got cheap green and busty especially in sg?

[Darge]

Girls like that all taken up long long ago liao. Where got cheap green and busty especially in sg?

Got $$$ Got Honey 🍯

[kid6425]

This thread got revived because of this bro. Can you mind telling us what happened to you? You already moved on or still cannot tahan with the same WL?

To anyone feeling trapped in the KC game. FYI, this month and next month many WLs will return already. If you guys lost the game please go back to this thread and share your lessons for our future reference. I would also be happy to accompany you for a drink and find some real girl. Ill be your wingman, happy to help.

I have moved on.
End of the day, just have to control myself and stop going back to find her. Block and delete her on WeChat.
Now I will just visit random girls even at the same house even if she’s there. Can’t be bothered, when she see me she also just pretend never see me.

[kid6425]

This thread got revived because of this bro. Can you mind telling us what happened to you? You already moved on or still cannot tahan with the same WL?

To anyone feeling trapped in the KC game. FYI, this month and next month many WLs will return already. If you guys lost the game please go back to this thread and share your lessons for our future reference. I would also be happy to accompany you for a drink and find some real girl. Ill be your wingman, happy to help.

Still in love. I find her 2-3 times a week… at least 3-4 sessions per visit… recently she say her brother in thai kok need money to study, wan me help … I’m just an office worker earning 5k/ mth… really can’t help much as I spend most my $ to pay OKT to see her already. She say OKT doesn’t allow her to meet customers outside

[mkmk01]

Got $$$ Got Honey 🍯

1000% right hahaha

[Cokebottle133]

Is this even a question? :D

If they seek love, would they be in this industry? ;)

[masakii]

Is this even a question? :D

If they seek love, would they be in this industry? ;)

of course not lol. what they are looking for is money. but if lucky might get love too, even though the chances are very small

[Chrisk456]

Still in love. I find her 2-3 times a week… at least 3-4 sessions per visit… recently she say her brother in thai kok need money to study, wan me help … I’m just an office worker earning 5k/ mth… really can’t help much as I spend most my $ to pay OKT to see her already. She say OKT doesn’t allow her to meet customers outside

Its okay bro. New batch of WLs from the same house coming already in a week or two. Then after a week they start work at least 8 to 10 girls if govt approve them. Do not worry for a little bit about her. They are here to make money and not to find love.

Ofc we cannot control ourselves to fall in love with them especially with their personality and looks. Theyre only here for our money, not for love.. always think about it. They will tell you good things about you and how much they like you and how sad their life are but the truth is their pulling the threads on you until you cannot control yourself anymore.

Im glad you stopped visiting her. Find another gem and just fvck and go. They are all the same.

[Chrisk456]

of course not lol. what they are looking for is money. but if lucky might get love too, even though the chances are very small

Yea. As one bro mentioned earlier the WL might feel something towards her customers but its basis is money.

[Chrisk456]

I have moved on.
End of the day, just have to control myself and stop going back to find her. Block and delete her on WeChat.
Now I will just visit random girls even at the same house even if she’s there. Can’t be bothered, when she see me she also just pretend never see me.

After the WL leave the room she doesn't care about her customers anymore. Just dont believe the typical BS they tell us inside the room and on Line/Wechat because it was sent to all of her customers.

Geylang is supposed to be a treasure hunt, find one gem in one house, look for another type of gem in another house. Different quality, different breed. That's it. Find those gems on different weeks of the month for 1 to 2 sessions only. Thats what a cheongster should do until the day we die.

[Rubbaking]

Got $$$ Got Honey 🍯

Bittersweet albeit expensive raw honey

[Rubbaking]

Still in love. I find her 2-3 times a week… at least 3-4 sessions per visit… recently she say her brother in thai kok need money to study, wan me help … I’m just an office worker earning 5k/ mth… really can’t help much as I spend most my $ to pay OKT to see her already. She say OKT doesn’t allow her to meet customers outside

If she really likes you, die die she would meet you outside and ask you do not waste money look for her at her workplace.

[Darge]

Bittersweet albeit expensive raw honey

Got $$$ will have sweet top grade honey 🍯

[Chrisk456]

If she really likes you, die die she would meet you outside and ask you do not waste money look for her at her workplace.

Agreed, if its true love why would she want someone to spend money with her going to the house and not outside? Besides asking for money to help her brother study? Really? Plain as day red flag. TS needs to pull out before the hole in bank account grow bigger and deeper.

[Rubbaking]

Agreed, if its true love why would she want someone to spend money with her going to the house and not outside? Besides asking for money to help her brother study? Really? Plain as day red flag. TS needs to pull out before the hole in bank account grow bigger and deeper.

Exactly. Used to have wl who told me to meet outside instead of her work place as she is ashamed to let me bump into her clients. Usually if the wl really likes you, she will start to think for you.

[Rubbaking]

Got $$$ will have sweet top grade honey 🍯

Lol. Honey that is encasted in gold. If no money or not enough, then do not expect to taste sweet honey from the cunt. Regardless, it is really difficult to sustain.

[Chrisk456]

Still in love. I find her 2-3 times a week… at least 3-4 sessions per visit… recently she say her brother in thai kok need money to study, wan me help … I’m just an office worker earning 5k/ mth… really can’t help much as I spend most my $ to pay OKT to see her already. She say OKT doesn’t allow her to meet customers outside

"In love" is a big commitment. I'll help you think about this before you spend another $$ on this WL.

If youre in love what are the chances that she loves you back? Or at least likes you back not because of the milk you're giving her? (3 times per week × 3 sessions (CAT100) = $900) Imagine her cut on that amount. I will like you back too if im the WL BUT ON THE BASIS OF MONEY.

Does she like you back because only of money? Or does she like you back because on all the 3 to 4 sessions you give, you let her rest atleast 2 sessions because you pity her? I will like you back too BUT ON THE BASIS THAT I CAN SKIP GETTING FVCKED.

But on the rare but brighter side she might like you on some other factors. Then consider this points:

1.If you are married here, are you willing to file for divorce and move to Thailand to marry her?

2.If she has a kid would you be willing to accept that fact? Or if you have kids here what would you tell them once you file for divorce?

3.Maybe youre thinking you just want her to be your girlfriend at the moment until she comes back Thailand. Then what is this fuss all about?? Move on shes going back in 3 weeks time.

4.Or make her your long distance mistress/gf and send her money, visit her and have a good fvck knowing that she might have been milking you while she has already a BF or husband at home which she is in love with?

5.Maybe you are single and willing to accommodate her back home. Visit her multiple times per month, support her needs but at the same time get drowned in your thoughts because you dont see her everyday she might have been with her real BF over there while youre away? Can you handle the mental stress? Can you both trust each other?

In short, wake up bro..

[galaxyass]

Normally when you are blinded by love, even she does shit to you, you will find excuse for her so that you can accept all the shit she is doing to you..... if you are in that stage... you are going deep.... very hard to pull out.... its easy when ppl tell you to just pull out but in actual fact... you are sinking deeper...... i dont know the solution to this because i was there too.... i guess this fight is between your brain and your heart....

[Rubbaking]

"In love" is a big commitment. I'll help you think about this before you spend another $$ on this WL.

If youre in love what are the chances that she loves you back? Or at least likes you back not because of the milk you're giving her? (3 times per week × 3 sessions (CAT100) = $900) Imagine her cut on that amount. I will like you back too if im the WL BUT ON THE BASIS OF MONEY.

Does she like you back because only of money? Or does she like you back because on all the 3 to 4 sessions you give, you let her rest atleast 2 sessions because you pity her? I will like you back too BUT ON THE BASIS THAT I CAN SKIP GETTING FVCKED.

But on the rare but brighter side she might like you on some other factors. Then consider this points:

1.If you are married here, are you willing to file for divorce and move to Thailand to marry her?

2.If she has a kid would you be willing to accept that fact? Or if you have kids here what would you tell them once you file for divorce?

3.Maybe youre thinking you just want her to be your girlfriend at the moment until she comes back Thailand. Then what is this fuss all about?? Move on shes going back in 3 weeks time.

4.Or make her your long distance mistress/gf and send her money, visit her and have a good fvck knowing that she might have been milking you while she has already a BF or husband at home which she is in love with?

5.Maybe you are single and willing to accommodate her back home. Visit her multiple times per month, support her needs but at the same time get drowned in your thoughts because you dont see her everyday she might have been with her real BF over there while youre away? Can you handle the mental stress? Can you both trust each other?

In short, wake up bro..

Speak like a pro! And hit all the right notes. Been there done that and I can reiterate your points. Unless he fancy a few months or short term fun and willing to part with those money and do not mind inexclusivity.

[SadLoser]

The biggest mystery to me is why do so many guys love to fall in love with whores? :confused:

Almost every other week there will be a thread about some punters here who has fallen in love with a wl/fl/ml and ask for advice etc

This is commercial sex. Just fark and go. Release whatever urge you have and go back to your normal life. My only advice is stop trying to be romeo and find love with working ladies...

[galaxyass]

As much as we want to fire and forget, sometimes these ladies will KC u here and there which will shaken you abit and want to try to KC them back.... as this goes on.... we sink deeper and deeper.... its a bottomless pit....

[unfit]

handicap dad

sick mum

school brother

autistic sister

blind dog

mad cow

collapsing home

etc

Then time for us to donate to Tiongkok CPF

Con People Fund

Sympathy beCum lustful love

[Chrisk456]

handicap dad

sick mum

school brother

autistic sister

blind dog

mad cow

collapsing home

etc

Then time for us to donate to Tiongkok CPF

Con People Fund

Sympathy beCum lustful love

Its part of the WL/FL job. Make them lure you into their trap, drain your milk and leave you alone in that same pit.

True story, its sad there are bros coming back to the same WL EVERY FVCKING DAY with atleast 3 sessions as TS mentioned earlier. Like wth? I mean its okay but at the end of the WL contract dont cry or complain here in this forum because youve given everything youve had and got nothing in the end.

Ima drop here some anti KC cheat sheet so these newbies dont fall for it:

1. Everything she says is fvcking not true.
-She tells you she misses you
-She likes you
-Tells the customers handsome
-"You have beautiful eyes, beautiful nose, nice eyelashes"
-"You smell handsome"
-"You are different from other customers"
-She feels happy when she sees you
-She asks she likes to hang out with you outside but never happens

Heard all these lines right? Then nothing's new!

2. Physical intimacy.
-Looks you in the eyes that felt like she likes you
-Helps you take off clothes (SOP)
-Wipes your sweat before or after deed
-Smiles so close into you and gives you kisses
-Dfk like theres no tomorrow
-Hugs you after FJ like shes into you but she only wants to take a nap/rest
-Gives you frown/sad face whenever your session is about to end because she wants you to extend

3. Fake jealousy.
-Doesnt want you to take another girl from the same or other houses and youll feel like she really likes you
-Gives you love bites and tells you youre hers

4. Fake fvcking sad story
-Poor parents
-Poor life
-Sad life
-Parents sick
-Bro/sis sick
-Need money for better future or medicine

Then tell the WL to sell her IPhone 15, ipads, branded bags came from gifts or her Chanel jewelries to have money lah!

5. Read points 1 to 4 before coming to GL!


Im not judging nor putting the WLs on a bad light but GL isn't supposed to be complicated:
1. Fvck
2. Forget

There are WLs who are true to what they say but how can you differentiate it from the KC bs they dish out to everyone? Unless the WL proved you wrong, keep this notes into your heart and never ever fall for the trap again.

[Darge]

handicap dad

sick mum

school brother

autistic sister

blind dog

mad cow

collapsing home

etc

Then time for us to donate to Tiongkok CPF

Con People Fund

Sympathy beCum lustful love

Hahaha….blind dog is the 1st time i hear 😂

[unfit]

Hahaha….blind dog is the 1st time i hear 😂

She still got videos to support her claims ;)

That’s why I love her deep deep :D

[galaxyass]

This is getting very comprehensive which means many bros have fallen for it before.... hope the rest can pick up and not fall for the same trick..... this is easier said than done.... we normally believe every word the WL said when you are into her.... i just hope you dont fall too deep in.... because once they go back, she will be a different person....

[Chrisk456]

This is getting very comprehensive which means many bros have fallen for it before.... hope the rest can pick up and not fall for the same trick..... this is easier said than done.... we normally believe every word the WL said when you are into her.... i just hope you dont fall too deep in.... because once they go back, she will be a different person....

Agree on this. She will leave everything behind as if nothing happened. She got the money to start a new life why would she need any of us by that time. Probably shes richer than most of her customers.

9/10 WLs do that with no fail ever since GL existed. The most effective technique for that is to find another gem from the new arrivals and cut the bs attachment from your regulars. Otherwise, just a heads up, youll gonna bang your head to a wall in the end. Lesson learnt the hard way after all.

[gizz]

I love you. Then bang every other guy. You see if she get a handsome customer she remembers you anot. She just f with no guilt . It's my job ka.

[Chrisk456]

I love you. Then bang every other guy. You see if she get a handsome customer she remembers you anot. She just f with no guilt . It's my job ka.

Yup. I dont know why this thread even exists. Just want your money thats it. No love here come on.

[Chrisk456]

Just read these tips or feel free to add more. Last thing these WLs want is a white knight cause thay already have one back home.

Its part of the WL/FL job. Make them lure you into their trap, drain your milk and leave you alone in that same pit.

True story, its sad there are bros coming back to the same WL EVERY FVCKING DAY with atleast 3 sessions as TS mentioned earlier. Like wth? I mean its okay but at the end of the WL contract dont cry or complain here in this forum because youve given everything youve had and got nothing in the end.

Ima drop here some anti KC cheat sheet so these newbies dont fall for it:

1. Everything she says is fvcking not true.
-She tells you she misses you
-She likes you
-Tells the customers handsome
-"You have beautiful eyes, beautiful nose, nice eyelashes"
-"You smell handsome"
-"You are different from other customers"
-She feels happy when she sees you
-She asks she likes to hang out with you outside but never happens

Heard all these lines right? Then nothing's new!

2. Physical intimacy.
-Looks you in the eyes that felt like she likes you
-Helps you take off clothes (SOP)
-Wipes your sweat before or after deed
-Smiles so close into you and gives you kisses
-Dfk like theres no tomorrow
-Hugs you after FJ like shes into you but she only wants to take a nap/rest
-Gives you frown/sad face whenever your session is about to end because she wants you to extend

3. Fake jealousy.
-Doesnt want you to take another girl from the same or other houses and youll feel like she really likes you
-Gives you love bites and tells you youre hers

4. Fake fvcking sad story
-Poor parents
-Poor life
-Sad life
-Parents sick
-Bro/sis sick
-Need money for better future or medicine

Then tell the WL to sell her IPhone 15, ipads, branded bags came from gifts or her Chanel jewelries to have money lah!

5. Read points 1 to 4 before coming to GL!


Im not judging nor putting the WLs on a bad light but GL isn't supposed to be complicated:
1. Fvck
2. Forget

There are WLs who are true to what they say but how can you differentiate it from the KC bs they dish out to everyone? Unless the WL proved you wrong, keep this notes into your heart and never ever fall for the trap again.

[PaiLong]

Yup. I dont know why this thread even exists. Just want your money thats it. No love here come on.

maybe many are naive

[Darge]

All bros, GL is not a place to find LOVE. Find beautiful WL to F only

[Chrisk456]

All bros, GL is not a place to find LOVE. Find beautiful WL to F only

Been telling people that. Some more other bros spoil the market by pampering these girls then later bad service liao.

[bradpitt968]

Guru liao. But seriously where to find chio busty in sg. Its like needle in hay.

Ok lah. I have been doing it since 16yo. I get more and more experienced and more and more thick skin.

Whenever I go drinking, see any chio bu, usually Thai or Viet, there will be some SG gals but not many.

[bradpitt968]

Still in love. I find her 2-3 times a week… at least 3-4 sessions per visit… recently she say her brother in thai kok need money to study, wan me help … I’m just an office worker earning 5k/ mth… really can’t help much as I spend most my $ to pay OKT to see her already. She say OKT doesn’t allow her to meet customers outside

The last part is bullshit. If the gal really likes you, she will do whatever to come out to meet you.

Any gal that tell you this and ask for money, enjoy whatever you can and then drop and go.

[bradpitt968]

If the WL really likes you :

1. Will not ask you to buy expensive things for her.
2. Willing to meet you outside.
3. When you say "I miss you" but she didn't straight away say back. Because she still not sure whether she should accept you yet and don't want to lead you on unneccessarily.
4. Will not mind even if you bring her to coffee shop or hawker to eat when meeting you outside.

This is the 4 basic checklist one can try.

[Chrisk456]

If the WL really likes you :

1. Will not ask you to buy expensive things for her.
2. Willing to meet you outside.
3. When you say "I miss you" but she didn't straight away say back. Because she still not sure whether she should accept you yet and don't want to lead you on unneccessarily.
4. Will not mind even if you bring her to coffee shop or hawker to eat when meeting you outside.

This is the 4 basic checklist one can try.

Agreed on this. You can feel it actually if shes into you but still beware..some girls are expert and can play multiple cards with multiple games for every customer.

[CowFart]

Agreed on this. You can feel it actually if shes into you but still beware..some girls are expert and can play multiple cards with multiple games for every customer.

They have many ways that are right for each character of their customers.

[tipsy90]

Agreed on this. You can feel it actually if shes into you but still beware..some girls are expert and can play multiple cards with multiple games for every customer.

Right, exactly. They have a few off days each month and decides on which customer to bring them out. Some go out with customers whom they don't like but feel obliged to cos they are big spenders and tip a lot. Some go out with their exclusive bf. Well, really depends on the WL. Personally have met a few WL from the very different spectrums.

[Rubbaking]

Ok lah. I have been doing it since 16yo. I get more and more experienced and more and more thick skin.

Whenever I go drinking, see any chio bu, usually Thai or Viet, there will be some SG gals but not many.

Where do you drink at? Lol. Yeah, whenever i see a chiobu on the streets, 90% not local.

[Rubbaking]

If the WL really likes you :

1. Will not ask you to buy expensive things for her.
2. Willing to meet you outside.
3. When you say "I miss you" but she didn't straight away say back. Because she still not sure whether she should accept you yet and don't want to lead you on unneccessarily.
4. Will not mind even if you bring her to coffee shop or hawker to eat when meeting you outside.

This is the 4 basic checklist one can try.

Agreed. Personally met a few as such but sustainability is another question mark. Most of the time after a while, they still leave for money.

[Chrisk456]

Agreed. Personally met a few as such but sustainability is another question mark. Most of the time after a while, they still leave for money.

Yes they came for money and will leave with pocket full load of money and some gifts that their customers gave them which they would eventually sell back home or give as gifts to their family. No boyfriend, no husband, no romance. The advertisement or word of mouth in BKK is they earn money not to have boyfriend 😂😂

[Darge]

They have many ways that are right for each character of their customers.

They are the TRUE MASTER 💪🏻

[sytlover123]

Yes they came for money and will leave with pocket full load of money and some gifts that their customers gave them which they would eventually sell back home or give as gifts to their family. No boyfriend, no husband, no romance. The advertisement or word of mouth in BKK is they earn money not to have boyfriend 😂😂

The point is to play beautifully so that your pockets don't have holes hahaha
Just need a lot of cum but not our money

[godlikealamak]

They are the TRUE MASTER 💪🏻

Right hahaha can see various aspects. the financial aspect and our loneliness aspect hahaha. they know how to behave to spend our money and fill our loneliness

[Chrisk456]

They are the TRUE MASTER 💪🏻

Yes, theyre so smart that other bros be thinking theyre exclusive which they would end up spending more and if theyre not rich enough to play the game they would end up at the bottom of the trap. Same old story, heard some of my bros spent a lot on a WL and he eventually pawned her wife's jewelries just to spend to the WL only to end up getting blocked and forgotten. Why fall in love with a WL? Why people?

[Darge]

Yes, theyre so smart that other bros be thinking theyre exclusive which they would end up spending more and if theyre not rich enough to play the game they would end up at the bottom of the trap. Same old story, heard some of my bros spent a lot on a WL and he eventually pawned her wife's jewelries just to spend to the WL only to end up getting blocked and forgotten. Why fall in love with a WL? Why people?

Could be these bros do not have many GF B4. So SUPER EZ TO kena KC from WL.

[Chrisk456]

Could be these bros do not have many GF B4. So SUPER EZ TO kena KC from WL.

That might be the case but this is the worst way to fall in love. Better to try hit and miss with the girls outside rather than try to spend it all at WLs.

Imagine the $60 to $200 per session can date a single girl in a classy resto with no timer. Yes there will be no BJ, FJ and GFE but the risks and rewards are more quantifiable. Rather than spend thousands of $$ only to end up being dumped and the worst thing is you didn't even know the WLs true name and age LOL

[galaxyass]

Like most bro say, their main objective is here to make money, they will find all ways to KC you saying they dont like the men in their own country and like Singapore man, bla bla bla... this is a feel goo factor for most guys... but in actual fact, all of them have bf or husband back home.... some will still maintain contact with you after they go back knowing that you will not be visiting them often, they will KC you and ask for support so that they can support their bf or husband... many have more than one social media acct... one for pure working to KC customer and another personal one, if you are able to see their account, you will get to see the actual behind the scenes...������

[Rubbaking]

Yes they came for money and will leave with pocket full load of money and some gifts that their customers gave them which they would eventually sell back home or give as gifts to their family. No boyfriend, no husband, no romance. The advertisement or word of mouth in BKK is they earn money not to have boyfriend 😂😂

It is so true. Many wls i have heard had fallen out of bad romance and unreliable ex-bfs or they are mistresses with no future. So they rather earn themselves and be independent then to live off bfs. They are hukans too and need love but they are already masters of their own emotions as well as masters in controlling others’ emotions. End of day, sustainability is near zsro unless unless they past the age of being able to be in this youth and looks dependent job.

[Rubbaking]

Like most bro say, their main objective is here to make money, they will find all ways to KC you saying they dont like the men in their own country and like Singapore man, bla bla bla... this is a feel goo factor for most guys... but in actual fact, all of them have bf or husband back home.... some will still maintain contact with you after they go back knowing that you will not be visiting them often, they will KC you and ask for support so that they can support their bf or husband... many have more than one social media acct... one for pure working to KC customer and another personal one, if you are able to see their account, you will get to see the actual behind the scenes...������

The best would be if you can find their old photos showing their real look, I am sure the dick will be lam beh.

[Rubbaking]

That might be the case but this is the worst way to fall in love. Better to try hit and miss with the girls outside rather than try to spend it all at WLs.

Imagine the $60 to $200 per session can date a single girl in a classy resto with no timer. Yes there will be no BJ, FJ and GFE but the risks and rewards are more quantifiable. Rather than spend thousands of $$ only to end up being dumped and the worst thing is you didn't even know the WLs true name and age LOL

Well, some guys have plenty of gfs before but still some of these wls can really be pretty and good in bed, as that is their jobs kpi. But once you become a bf to them, yes you may get raw (well some customers get raw too by giving the right price), the service level dropped immediately. In the end you will end up being the driver, slave, and not to mention half poorer. Whoever wish to get into such need to have an end game or else it is end life.

[xela18]

Like most bro say, their main objective is here to make money, they will find all ways to KC you saying they dont like the men in their own country and like Singapore man, bla bla bla... this is a feel goo factor for most guys... but in actual fact, all of them have bf or husband back home.... some will still maintain contact with you after they go back knowing that you will not be visiting them often, they will KC you and ask for support so that they can support their bf or husband... many have more than one social media acct... one for pure working to KC customer and another personal one, if you are able to see their account, you will get to see the actual behind the scenes...������

Its really true lol .
I was once taken in by their fake love. and it turns out they already have husbands. When I found out about this, they made up a story that they were going to divorce, so they asked me to give them a little time until the divorce was official. and stupid me, I waited for it. In the end, there will never be a divorce. it's just that part of the scenario makes me survive as long as I can survive. at least they get money every month from me. And thx God I realized

[escobar43535]

Spoken like a true blue experienced player.

5. Will do a fast fast chop chop job with another customer if she knows you are waiting for her on a spontaneous visit.

6. At times, might even buy you a small gift or foot the bill for meal.

If the WL really likes you :

1. Will not ask you to buy expensive things for her.
2. Willing to meet you outside.
3. When you say "I miss you" but she didn't straight away say back. Because she still not sure whether she should accept you yet and don't want to lead you on unneccessarily.
4. Will not mind even if you bring her to coffee shop or hawker to eat when meeting you outside.

This is the 4 basic checklist one can try.

[Chrisk456]

Its really true lol .
I was once taken in by their fake love. and it turns out they already have husbands. When I found out about this, they made up a story that they were going to divorce, so they asked me to give them a little time until the divorce was official. and stupid me, I waited for it. In the end, there will never be a divorce. it's just that part of the scenario makes me survive as long as I can survive. at least they get money every month from me. And thx God I realized

Yea thank God. Thats must have been hard that time.

[unfit]

If the WL really likes you :

1. Will not ask you to buy expensive things for her.
2. Willing to meet you outside.
3. When you say "I miss you" but she didn't straight away say back. Because she still not sure whether she should accept you yet and don't want to lead you on unneccessarily.
4. Will not mind even if you bring her to coffee shop or hawker to eat when meeting you outside.

This is the 4 basic checklist one can try.

Spoken like a true blue experienced player.

5. Will do a fast fast chop chop job with another customer if she knows you are waiting for her on a spontaneous visit.

6. At times, might even buy you a small gift or foot the bill for meal.

me also met such "perfect" girl before cos me willingly fall into it myself:D

can't blame her :p

honey pot too tempting;)

[Piling8]

only time will tell because they have too many tricks

[Darge]

me also met such "perfect" girl before cos me willingly fall into it myself:D

can't blame her :p

honey pot too tempting;)

Fully understand when warm and slippery involved…super HARD not to fall into warm and slippery honey pot 😆

[unfit]

Fully understand when warm and slippery involved…super HARD not to fall into warm and slippery honey pot 😆

actually the very first time saw her already mesmerised by her looks:D

bluefin is the yummiest :p

[unfit]

only time will tell because they have too many tricks

dun need mediacorpse:D

automatically contribute to CPF aka Con People Fund :p

[Muhahaha]

I used to be involved with one, ended up badly. And recently one as well but now i find them very fake.

But then this is thai female mentality.

This not only apply to WL, even those non WL behave like this. Strings of lovers.

[knightkid]

I used to be involved with one, ended up badly. And recently one as well but now i find them very fake.

But then this is thai female mentality.

This not only apply to WL, even those non WL behave like this. Strings of lovers.

I think some Asian women are like that lah. They see SG men a lot of money

[Muhahaha]

I think some Asian women are like that lah. They see SG men a lot of money

If you read up on Reddit, you will know thai women technically cannot be fully trusted. Even the angmo also don't trust them fully.

There was a survey few years back, 6 to 7 out of 10 Thai women cheats in relationships. That is like 60 to 70%. So cheating and lying are just part of their love relationship. And 见怪不怪, becomes a mentality.

And if the Thai lady comes from a good upbringing, well to do. Why will they even choose Singapore men?? It is not like we Singaporean men are rich Romeo. Majority will want to marry their own kind and have a family in Thailand.

Actually many SG guys are destined to be single, as for myself I now gladly accept singleton. No worries and no burdens

[galaxyass]

Although all the statistics have shown Thai women are not trust worthy, many SG men still put their effort to KC them hoping they can find a special one.... which is a rare dream.... reality is different and cruel.... we choose to believe what come out of their mouth rather than using our brain.... that is why the success rate for thai women to KC SG men is 80-90 percent

[Chrisk456]

Although all the statistics have shown Thai women are not trust worthy, many SG men still put their effort to KC them hoping they can find a special one.... which is a rare dream.... reality is different and cruel.... we choose to believe what come out of their mouth rather than using our brain.... that is why the success rate for thai women to KC SG men is 80-90 percent

Let them learn their lesson if theyre willing to play the game. I just hope they dont invest too much emotion and go on a depression.

[Darge]

Let them learn their lesson if theyre willing to play the game. I just hope they dont invest too much emotion and go on a depression.

These bros 100% will be depressed once their WL leave S’pore…
$$$ can be earned but heart pain is forever…

[Chrisk456]

These bros 100% will be depressed once their WL leave S’pore…
$$$ can be earned but heart pain is forever…

The heart pain is bearable but the mental exhaustion is the hardest part, there's a part where you don't know what to do and where to go next, it felt empty and painful. I believe everybody with the KC trap experience will agree on this.

Im no psychiatrist but Im willing to help any trapped bros who are left by their WLs out of the trap. We can drink or go BKK/VN to help you move on.

[GeylangKia69]

If the WL really likes you :
1. Will not ask you to buy expensive things for her.
2. Willing to meet you outside.
3. When you say "I miss you" but she didn't straight away say back. Because she still not sure whether she should accept you yet and don't want to lead you on unneccessarily.
4. Will not mind even if you bring her to coffee shop or hawker to eat when meeting you outside.
This is the 4 basic checklist one can try.
Spoken like a true blue experienced player.
5. Will do a fast fast chop chop job with another customer if she knows you are waiting for her on a spontaneous visit.
6. At times, might even buy you a small gift or foot the bill for meal.

7. Ask me to extend even though I told her there are customers waiting for her outside. 🤣🤣🤣 and got angry because I didn’t extend.

So far my regular checked off all boxes. How ah? :D

[Chrisk456]

7. Ask me to extend even though I told her there are customers waiting for her outside. 🤣🤣🤣 and got angry because I didn’t extend.

So far my regular checked off all boxes. How ah? :D

Good for you. I hope you all well with her but lets not get other bros' hopes up. These WLs were also human and sometimes feel alone or have needs but still 1 or 2 years here in Singapore doesn't take their mind and hearts from where they come from. I know many of my young friends who have been there, got KCed and dumped in the end. I wish to add more on the list but its still too soon to tell..the point is no one really knows what's going on the girls mind..

[galaxyass]

If you put urself in the shoe of the WL, your main objective is to earn money here... of course along the way, there will be some fellows who would try to KC her or date her, since she is already here, just take whatever that comes along and make the best during her tour of duty here.... its win win for her, so why not.... end of the day, she will still go back with her loads of cash and go back to her bf or husbands... our culture is different here and she would definitely want to be with someone of the same culture... the chances of it working out is much higher as well..

[plantronic]

These bros 100% will be depressed once their WL leave S’pore…
$$$ can be earned but heart pain is forever…

Heart pain can be cured. Daily Bangkok caviar is a good way. Usually by 3rd day will feel effects

[Rubbaking]

Although all the statistics have shown Thai women are not trust worthy, many SG men still put their effort to KC them hoping they can find a special one.... which is a rare dream.... reality is different and cruel.... we choose to believe what come out of their mouth rather than using our brain.... that is why the success rate for thai women to KC SG men is 80-90 percent

Men are visual bastards. The thai girls slender body already won 90% of sg girls. If fair and chio and shapely then probably won 100%. How not to be kced?

[Rubbaking]

7. Ask me to extend even though I told her there are customers waiting for her outside. 🤣🤣🤣 and got angry because I didn’t extend.

So far my regular checked off all boxes. How ah? :D

Add on these:

8. Give bad service to other customers worrying you read good FR about her.
9. Willing to cut short her tour of duty without you buying her out.

If check the above two boxes as well, then really love you deep liao.

[naan1974]

8. Give bad service to other customers worrying you read good FR about her.


i hv come across gals who were distracted and lost motivation once they got a bf
resulting in drastic drop in service standard affecting their biz inevitably .
But the above is plain stupidity

[galaxyass]

I have also seen WLs gave up their job here and fly back to their real bf back home even though her income is on the rise.... thats what i call true love... the siam kia has the power over the siam bu... for us we dont have such power... even if we throw money, its only temporary.... ������

[Chrisk456]

Add on these:

8. Give bad service to other customers worrying you read good FR about her.


Even without thinking the FR about her the girl might just drop her service like a dead fish to other customers because she doesn't feel it. Even more if shes about to go back in less than 2 months. There wont even be a stereo sound so annoying.

[Rubbaking]

Even without thinking the FR about her the girl might just drop her service like a dead fish to other customers because she doesn't feel it. Even more if shes about to go back in less than 2 months. There wont even be a stereo sound so annoying.

They really mastered the art of getting fucked without any feeling.

[Aasjanro]

They really mastered the art of getting fucked without any feeling.

Right 👍 they already like artist

[phyrus]

Good for you. I hope you all well with her but lets not get other bros' hopes up. These WLs were also human and sometimes feel alone or have needs but still 1 or 2 years here in Singapore doesn't take their mind and hearts from where they come from. I know many of my young friends who have been there, got KCed and dumped in the end. I wish to add more on the list but its still too soon to tell..the point is no one really knows what's going on the girls mind..

because they went to SG with a definite plan to return to their partners where they came from. If you be their patner when they here maybe just because for their needed 😀

[Chrisk456]

because they went to SG with a definite plan to return to their partners where they came from. If you be their patner when they here maybe just because for their needed 😀

Yup. Next stage is theyll try to milk money while theyre at home.

[naan1974]

Yup. Next stage is theyll try to milk money while theyre at home.

Remote KC ... work from home(land) :D

[Chrisk456]

Remote KC ... work from home(land) :D

Damn nailed it bro! Wfh the fck hahahaha

[gidi]

Yup. Next stage is theyll try to milk money while theyre at home.

with sad drama as if there was problem this and that a disaster at home while they was not working hahaha
The trick already familiar lah

[Chrisk456]

with sad drama as if there was problem this and that a disaster at home while they was not working hahaha
The trick already familiar lah

Trick you with sweet words first, some more will try to call you so you feel special. Later will ask money either will meet up with you or not. Classic. Better go back to GL and have a good fck for less than $200. No strings attached.

[madleo9]

Add on these:

8. Give bad service to other customers worrying you read good FR about her.
9. Willing to cut short her tour of duty without you buying her out.

If check the above two boxes as well, then really love you deep liao.


maybe she did that. but hope to get money from us. she seemed to be trying to show that she was sacrificing to be with us. so we give her more. Its can make sense ?

[phyrus]

Yup. Next stage is theyll try to milk money while theyre at home.

its predictable. because almost all of them use the same method and are very cliche

[unfit]

TBH I ever questioned a working girl

on why all using same story for all scenarios

she replied

if no problem

why bother cum here sell pussy

think I sex addict

wanna let so many kind of people fuck

hear liao LL keep mum

Guess she’s right

Need money then sex working professional

Fastest to make money

[Chrisk456]

TBH I ever questioned a working girl

on why all using same story for all scenarios

she replied

if no problem

why bother cum here sell pussy

think I sex addict

wanna let so many kind of people fuck

hear liao LL keep mum

Guess she’s right

Need money then sex working professional

Fastest to make money

On spot bro unfit. There is no problem with the ladies working in this profession. The hardship in their lives (poor life, sick parents, debt owed from loans, raising kids alone, etc) plus almost all of them didn't have decent education made them accept their fate and just focus on earning money or what others call milking the customers.

We just need to retain their professional status, just fvck and go. No strings attached. If any bro allowed themselves to give money on top of the price tag or worse, send money to them overseas and end up getting dumped. Not the ladies' fault. THEY NEED MONEY.

No one will know if the WL truly loves you. Take it or leave it.

[unfit]

Whores are for fucking not loving :D

as advocated by Boss Sam:)

But sometimes…………love just ain’t enough:(

[Chrisk456]

Whores are for fucking not loving :D

as advocated by Boss Sam:)

But sometimes…………love just ain’t enough:(

Financial maintenance, mental resilience, big old trust and many more qualities for one bro to possess. Sometimes the ladies dont believe in love anymore so they end up just enjoying the money part and other bros ending up lost..cant blame the ladies on this.

[Axksiwz]

Financial maintenance, mental resilience, big old trust and many more qualities for one bro to possess. Sometimes the ladies dont believe in love anymore so they end up just enjoying the money part and other bros ending up lost..cant blame the ladies on this.

they choose money to heal because of love. can not blamed because many men are like us haha

[Rubbaking]

maybe she did that. but hope to get money from us. she seemed to be trying to show that she was sacrificing to be with us. so we give her more. Its can make sense ?

Unless can give her 5 or 6 figure sum easily, then maybe. Otherwise she can earn much more from her many clients. We have to remember also that usually these wls already spend a fair bit to come to sg to work as wls. Either for work passes, or agent fees. And not to mention their short tenure.

[galaxyass]

I know of a WL who got ard SGD 8k of angbao money alone on her birthday and she is only here a couple of months ago... thats her power of KC.... very impressive.....

[bobbyjoe456]

they love you... they love your money... what's the difference?

[bradpitt968]

Where do you drink at? Lol. Yeah, whenever i see a chiobu on the streets, 90% not local.

It depends. Why leh?

Yah lor. Most chio bu are not Sporeans.

[bradpitt968]

Its really true lol .
I was once taken in by their fake love. and it turns out they already have husbands. When I found out about this, they made up a story that they were going to divorce, so they asked me to give them a little time until the divorce was official. and stupid me, I waited for it. In the end, there will never be a divorce. it's just that part of the scenario makes me survive as long as I can survive. at least they get money every month from me. And thx God I realized

One surest way that you can know that this WL is really into you is when she tells you about everybody in her family, show you pictures, even let you say hi to the family members during video calls.

To round this all up, is when they brings you back to their home in Thailand to meet the whole family.

When you go out with them and other WLs from the same house, they will not expect you to treat everything or buy everything. When makan, they will go AA or "dutch". When buying stuff, they will pay for it themselves.

[bradpitt968]

Spoken like a true blue experienced player.

5. Will do a fast fast chop chop job with another customer if she knows you are waiting for her on a spontaneous visit.

6. At times, might even buy you a small gift or foot the bill for meal.

Yah. I have experienced all that. Really wonderful experience.

[bradpitt968]

I used to be involved with one, ended up badly. And recently one as well but now i find them very fake.

But then this is thai female mentality.

This not only apply to WL, even those non WL behave like this. Strings of lovers.

Did they video call their family and she introduce you to them?

Did they bring you back with them back home to meet the whole family?

[bradpitt968]

7. Ask me to extend even though I told her there are customers waiting for her outside. 🤣🤣🤣 and got angry because I didn’t extend.

So far my regular checked off all boxes. How ah? :D

Are you looking for something permanent with them or what? If not, then it is up to you.

[bradpitt968]

Whores are for fucking not loving :D

as advocated by Boss Sam:)

But sometimes…………love just ain’t enough:(

True for those bros here who are rich and got money.

But for those who are not as well off like me, we must find somebody to grow old together with.

[unfit]

True for those bros here who are rich and got money.

But for those who are not as well off like me, we must find somebody to grow old together with.

yes agree with you cos we are human beings with feelings after all

that’s why I have fallen many times already

just wanna have companionship

but she’s after money not affection

sad but true

nothing to be ashamed

Add Oil Buddy:)

[Chillbill]

We live in a hedonistic world; don't expect love or romance without money. Let's be practical here. We are not talking about school days as teenagers :) Back then, I could still take my gf for a stroll at East Coast Park after school, happy to enjoy the sunset together.

[Muhahaha]

The percentage of single mothers working in such trade is actually pretty high. At least from those WL i visited, i would say 50% or more are single mothers

[bradpitt968]

The percentage of single mothers working in such trade is actually pretty high. At least from those WL i visited, i would say 50% or more are single mothers

That's because the employment options in Thailand is not much. Especially in Chiang Rai. Chiang Mai is better but not that fantastic also.

Also for them, servicing all kinds of men is like massage to them. So to them, it is like a way of life liao. Those who are chio busty, work hard and know how to save money, just need to chiong 10yrs and then can relax liao. If lucky, kena one rich guy who takes care of them, then it is song song gao Thailand liao.

[plantronic]

That's because the employment options in Thailand is not much. Especially in Chiang Rai. Chiang Mai is better but not that fantastic also.

Also for them, servicing all kinds of men is like massage to them. So to them, it is like a way of life liao. Those who are chio busty, work hard and know how to save money, just need to chiong 10yrs and then can relax liao. If lucky, kena one rich guy who takes care of them, then it is song song gao Thailand liao.

Not just the Thai, others also many single mothers
Even with other work options many choose to continue this line for the money

They go back home and try other jobs or start own business for few months or a year then go back to work in this line.

[plantronic]

There is something about working in this line that changes a person. Permanently. Have observed this pattern in so many batches over the years.

Can recall those first timers, the initial weeks was so different from their last month before going home. Something changed inside.

The money is good yet the work is hard; to numb the feeling many turn to alcohol etc More interesting cases are convert to christian then quit WL

Feeling bit empty inside writing this. Think of the ones with good connection during first weeks and then months later something inside is broken. is same physical body but different inside. Some went through ordeal because of the environment or the houses. Seasoned bros know what I mean because the girls will open up and share if they are closer to you.

Sometimes wonder if we bros are also changed if we have been coming to GL. Hard to tell since change is gradual. Have thought of quitting yet still keep coming back for the fks and peace of mind compared to fl dome or others. have i become addicted ?

[musangk1ng]

There is something about working in this line that changes a person. Permanently. Have observed this pattern in so many batches over the years.

Can recall those first timers, the initial weeks was so different from their last month before going home. Something changed inside.

The money is good yet the work is hard; to numb the feeling many turn to alcohol etc More interesting cases are convert to christian then quit WL

Feeling bit empty inside writing this. Think of the ones with good connection during first weeks and then months later something inside is broken. is same physical body but different inside. Some went through ordeal because of the environment or the houses. Seasoned bros know what I mean because the girls will open up and share if they are closer to you.

Sometimes wonder if we bros are also changed if we have been coming to GL. Hard to tell since change is gradual. Have thought of quitting yet still keep coming back for the fks and peace of mind compared to fl dome or others. have i become addicted ?


Yes, like something that already becomes a habit bro. and the more we try something new, the more we want it. Becomr addicted . Even maybe we want to stop ,but they like give attractive offer so we come back
But im sure ,we will have era to stop

[LeonardMessi]

Not just the Thai, others also many single mothers
Even with other work options many choose to continue this line for the money

They go back home and try other jobs or start own business for few months or a year then go back to work in this line.

because they are used to get money more easily lah with this job. so that when do business they feel that money come not easy lah , then make they thinking to come back worked in this line.

[Chrisk456]

because they are used to get money more easily lah with this job. so that when do business they feel that money come not easy lah , then make they thinking to come back worked in this line.

Exactly. Ive known a WL that went on a full 2 years in GL then buy land & house with 5 bedrooms for atleast 150 to 200 sqm in size and a car. As for someone who didnt finish education and was able to put up this kind of investment in 2 years without mortgage is really attractive. Some more if she continue this for few more years in other location then shes gonna be able to put up small to medium businesses.

[bradpitt968]

There is something about working in this line that changes a person. Permanently. Have observed this pattern in so many batches over the years.

Can recall those first timers, the initial weeks was so different from their last month before going home. Something changed inside.

The money is good yet the work is hard; to numb the feeling many turn to alcohol etc More interesting cases are convert to christian then quit WL

Feeling bit empty inside writing this. Think of the ones with good connection during first weeks and then months later something inside is broken. is same physical body but different inside. Some went through ordeal because of the environment or the houses. Seasoned bros know what I mean because the girls will open up and share if they are closer to you.

Sometimes wonder if we bros are also changed if we have been coming to GL. Hard to tell since change is gradual. Have thought of quitting yet still keep coming back for the fks and peace of mind compared to fl dome or others. have i become addicted ?

It is a phenomenon in the whole world.

https://youtu.be/-asEjukbFk0

https://youtu.be/hJdi4hKHfQ8

https://youtu.be/gtjpKHlHR3Y

Prostituition is the new economy.

[bradpitt968]

Exactly. Ive known a WL that went on a full 2 years in GL then buy land & house with 5 bedrooms for atleast 150 to 200 sqm in size and a car. As for someone who didnt finish education and was able to put up this kind of investment in 2 years without mortgage is really attractive. Some more if she continue this for few more years in other location then shes gonna be able to put up small to medium businesses.

There are many many many Thai gals who are working in various trades like this that probably support the economy in Thailand. Those ang pais working full 2yrs in Singapore can get about SGD$300K-$400K. They go back, can buy land, buy house, buy car and still got left.

Singapore gals don't even have this option. $300K-$400K can't even buy a 4 room HDB flat. Sad facts of life.

[Rubbaking]

It depends. Why leh?

Yah lor. Most chio bu are not Sporeans.

Most places i drink at, hardly any local chiobus. Maybe i hit the wrong places. Out of the many friends who commented, including overseas friends and even till friends in their 60s, said singapore hardly has local chiobus. Hence an average looking local always tend to think that they are very chio in local standards already and nose up in the air.

[Rubbaking]

There is something about working in this line that changes a person. Permanently. Have observed this pattern in so many batches over the years.

Can recall those first timers, the initial weeks was so different from their last month before going home. Something changed inside.

The money is good yet the work is hard; to numb the feeling many turn to alcohol etc More interesting cases are convert to christian then quit WL

Feeling bit empty inside writing this. Think of the ones with good connection during first weeks and then months later something inside is broken. is same physical body but different inside. Some went through ordeal because of the environment or the houses. Seasoned bros know what I mean because the girls will open up and share if they are closer to you.

Sometimes wonder if we bros are also changed if we have been coming to GL. Hard to tell since change is gradual. Have thought of quitting yet still keep coming back for the fks and peace of mind compared to fl dome or others. have i become addicted ?

I did change over time. Become more and more picky and cannot be satisfied with plain jane. Eventually become lonelier if i did not set eyes on any lady. And gl batches after 2018 were a far cry than before. So i did not get addicted to gl but to fl instead. In the past it is gl at least three times a week.

[Rubbaking]

We live in a hedonistic world; don't expect love or romance without money. Let's be practical here. We are not talking about school days as teenagers :) Back then, I could still take my gf for a stroll at East Coast Park after school, happy to enjoy the sunset together.

Spot on. Even normal girls nowadays look at status, salary, and background. Let alone these wls.

[Chrisk456]

Yes, like something that already becomes a habit bro. and the more we try something new, the more we want it. Becomr addicted . Even maybe we want to stop ,but they like give attractive offer so we come back
But im sure ,we will have era to stop

Agree with you. At some point in time these activity will go down the sinkhole until it calls us back again. Before, I was going GL/catching FLs/clubbing almost everyday. I spent 2k on average at GL alone not until I met someone and suddenly I woke up with my priorities have changed. Not excited about the thought of GL or anything about FLs anymore. I just want to settle with the woman I love right now. I hope Ive buried the hatchet forever.

[Darge]

Agree with you. At some point in time these activity will go down the sinkhole until it calls us back again. Before, I was going GL/catching FLs/clubbing almost everyday. I spent 2k on average at GL alone not until I met someone and suddenly I woke up with my priorities have changed. Not excited about the thought of GL or anything about FLs anymore. I just want to settle with the woman I love right now. I hope Ive buried the hatchet forever.

Wish you best of luck with your woman 🌈

[Chrisk456]

Wish you best of luck with your woman 🌈

Thanks man. I hope we bury this thread for good because if she truly loves you whether she is a lady from GL/FL/ML/normal lady frm your workplace, you will know. Trust me you will know and you will feel it. As I have known myself from my girl.

My personal advise is dont get drowned so much on thoughts about a woman whether she loves you or not. Because you will not know not until she lets you know and makes you feel her love and not because you paid her $60/$100/$200 per 30/40/60 minutes of her time.

Especially if the lady is from GL, its hard to know. As I have mentioned in my previous posts, no one will know that she might be saying the same thing to other guys inside the room or going out with other guys on her offdays. Its mentally exhausting. But trust me, if she loves you, you will know. And if not just move on. GL is not a place for love. Work on yourself first before rushing to have someone as your partner. It will come at the right time and with the right person.

[Rubbaking]

Thanks man. I hope we bury this thread for good because if she truly loves you whether she is a lady from GL/FL/ML/normal lady frm your workplace, you will know. Trust me you will know and you will feel it. As I have known myself from my girl.

My personal advise is dont get drowned so much on thoughts about a woman whether she loves you or not. Because you will not know not until she lets you know and makes you feel her love and not because you paid her $60/$100/$200 per 30/40/60 minutes of her time.

Especially if the lady is from GL, its hard to know. As I have mentioned in my previous posts, no one will know that she might be saying the same thing to other guys inside the room or going out with other guys on her offdays. Its mentally exhausting. But trust me, if she loves you, you will know. And if not just move on. GL is not a place for love. Work on yourself first before rushing to have someone as your partner. It will come at the right time and with the right person.


Truly agreed and good on you. You truly met that someone who can influence you to give up gl and fl and ml. I know it is not easy and wishing you all the best and blessings for a long time with your love.

[bradpitt968]

One surest way that you can know that this WL is really into you is when she tells you about everybody in her family, show you pictures, even let you say hi to the family members during video calls.

To round this all up, is when they brings you back to their home in Thailand to meet the whole family.

When you go out with them and other WLs from the same house, they will not expect you to treat everything or buy everything. When makan, they will go AA or "dutch". When buying stuff, they will pay for it themselves.

If the WL that you know does all the above, you can be pretty sure that she is serious about you.

The question is whether are you ready for it?

[Lawrencegan]

If the WL that you know does all the above, you can be pretty sure that she is serious about you.

The question is whether are you ready for it?
Yeah all done before- the point is when you are not around or near them, what do you think? Do you think they are sneaking out to find another man? Can you trust that they are not selling their pussy for more money?

[Darge]

We MAN love challenges, thinking we can be hero saving WL… 😂

[Chrisk456]

If the WL that you know does all the above, you can be pretty sure that she is serious about you.

The question is whether are you ready for it?

Agreed on this.

Singapore: Level 1
Long distance relationship: Level 2
Married with WL: Level 3

Folks, one must understand that this is a long game and in every level the difficulty notch goes up. Better to play blackjacks in casino with me you'll have a better chance of winning.

[Rubbaking]

Yeah all done before- the point is when you are not around or near them, what do you think? Do you think they are sneaking out to find another man? Can you trust that they are not selling their pussy for more money?

Safest way is either have a cctv back at her home wherever there is or keep her by your side daily. The dutch and all rules I have encountered before as well but when she is low on cash, there is a tendency all will be back to square one. So unless one is ready to support her adequately for life, or enable her to have a decent business (but even business fails). These girls put survival above relationship, period. And to be fair, you cannot blame them as they do not have any back up.

[Chrisk456]

Safest way is either have a cctv back at her home wherever there is or keep her by your side daily. The dutch and all rules I have encountered before as well but when she is low on cash, there is a tendency all will be back to square one. So unless one is ready to support her adequately for life, or enable her to have a decent business (but even business fails). These girls put survival above relationship, period. And to be fair, you cannot blame them as they do not have any back up.

Its a rollercoaster ride of emotions. Hundreds of quarrels due to mistrust. Endless cycles of thoughts whenever she goes out alone without you or not sending prompt replies via message. Its mentally exhausting. I can only imagine. Just stop. Unless someone can watch her almost 24/7 then go ahead (which is impossible) otherwise just give up and find another woman. Not from the nightlife. They deserve love also but as a man, we also deserve peace in our romance life.

[abcchinese8inch]

One surest way that you can know that this WL is really into you is when she tells you about everybody in her family, show you pictures, even let you say hi to the family members during video calls.

To round this all up, is when they brings you back to their home in Thailand to meet the whole family.

When you go out with them and other WLs from the same house, they will not expect you to treat everything or buy everything. When makan, they will go AA or "dutch". When buying stuff, they will pay for it themselves.

I'm in this relationship for 6 month. Return thailand with her, met her family, had meal etc.

Even when going out, certain day she paid for the bill.

But guess LDR really doesn't work for ex-WL. When they spend finish their saving, they more or less going back to the same trade. That what happening to me now. Guess I should really just face the reality and move on.

[Chrisk456]

I'm in this relationship for 6 month. Return thailand with her, met her family, had meal etc.

Even when going out, certain day she paid for the bill.

But guess LDR really doesn't work for ex-WL. When they spend finish their saving, they more or less going back to the same trade. That what happening to me now. Guess I should really just face the reality and move on.

Do you understand the only way she made money is through the flesh trade ofc shes going back into it when everything is gone alr especially if you let her pay the bill on your dates. Lol. They didn't finish any education and can't find any job that would sustain her living expenses. Not even rent.

[abcchinese8inch]

Do you understand the only way she made money is through the flesh trade ofc shes going back into it when everything is gone alr especially if you let her pay the bill on your dates. Lol. They didn't finish any education and can't find any job that would sustain her living expenses. Not even rent.


FYI I'm been giving her monthly allowance. Sufficient for basic needs plus condo rental. Initially promised to work normal office job as she was a uni graduate. Now after awhile whining about the low pay and tiring to work in bangkok office.

Guess she used to the high maintenance standard of living and spurging money.

[Chrisk456]

FYI I'm been giving her monthly allowance. Sufficient for basic needs plus condo rental. Initially promised to work normal office job as she was a uni graduate. Now after awhile whining about the low pay and tiring to work in bangkok office.

Guess she used to the high maintenance standard of living and spurging money.

Then there must be something were missing here. Perhaps she's doing this trade for a long time and change is irreversible. She tried to change but the push wasn't enough (money and your time with her) at some point she felt lonely. Condo rent + basic needs is atleast $800-1000 in BKK, even cheaper in other locations and plus her salary perhaps she needed more for her family?? Or maybe she just like doing the flesh trade and shes missing it?? What did she say?? Its definitely more tiring getting fckd for 12 hours rather than working in the office (with freedom to go out after work).

[galaxyass]

Once she get into this trade, its a one way ticket... all other job sucks... because money is good and fast, plus they also get to enjoy during the process.... if you compare a normal office job, even if its a management post, the money still not as good... as for the love, they will really stop doing it while you support them, after awhile, they will look back and feel that they are underpaid as compare to their previous earning power... so nothing last forever... the worst part is the aftermath....

[bradpitt968]

Yeah all done before- the point is when you are not around or near them, what do you think? Do you think they are sneaking out to find another man? Can you trust that they are not selling their pussy for more money?

Are you talking about you financially support them fully or no?

Even if you are financially fully supporting them, you need to keep them reasonably occupied daily. Best is let them do some work, some small business. If not, then she may get bored and do shit stuff. Especially if they have bad friends.

If a guy is not financially supporting them fully, then how is she going to support herself and takes care of her liability and responsibility?

You are referring to both of you NOT staying together but supporting her financially fully? This one is challenging because you are not there for her physically. If one is in this situation, very tricky.

If not staying with her, best is support her financially partially. But if you do that, then what do you expect her to do when her family needs money? Ask from you? Will you give? After you give her the money, would you feel that you "own" her?

So the biggest question is survival. If not enough money, she will have to find the money somewhere. Especially if she really love you and know that you are not very rich, how?

[bradpitt968]

We MAN love challenges, thinking we can be hero saving WL… 😂

Yah. Or the pursue of everyday good sex? LOL!

[bradpitt968]

Agreed on this.

Singapore: Level 1
Long distance relationship: Level 2
Married with WL: Level 3

Folks, one must understand that this is a long game and in every level the difficulty notch goes up. Better to play blackjacks in casino with me you'll have a better chance of winning.

Yah. Being in relationship with a foreign gal is different. If want to be in a relationship with a ex-WLs in Geylang, will be even more challenging.

[bradpitt968]

Safest way is either have a cctv back at her home wherever there is or keep her by your side daily. The dutch and all rules I have encountered before as well but when she is low on cash, there is a tendency all will be back to square one. So unless one is ready to support her adequately for life, or enable her to have a decent business (but even business fails). These girls put survival above relationship, period. And to be fair, you cannot blame them as they do not have any back up.

Agree with you.

Cao Cao said before :

If you suspect the person, don't be with that person.
If you wanna be with that person, don't suspect that person.

If a person's mentality in relationship is "I own that person", that relationship is doom to fail. Matter of time.

Survival is important to all of us. We will do whatever to survive also.

[bradpitt968]

Its a rollercoaster ride of emotions. Hundreds of quarrels due to mistrust. Endless cycles of thoughts whenever she goes out alone without you or not sending prompt replies via message. Its mentally exhausting. I can only imagine. Just stop. Unless someone can watch her almost 24/7 then go ahead (which is impossible) otherwise just give up and find another woman. Not from the nightlife. They deserve love also but as a man, we also deserve peace in our romance life.

Cannot lah. Like that is not relationship liao. This is more like master and slave.

In relationship, remember that when it is gone, just know that it is part and parcel of life and move on.

How do we keep a person under surveiliance? This is crazy idea. It will not work. Plus it will make the person that setup all this more sad.

[bradpitt968]

I'm in this relationship for 6 month. Return thailand with her, met her family, had meal etc.

Even when going out, certain day she paid for the bill.

But guess LDR really doesn't work for ex-WL. When they spend finish their saving, they more or less going back to the same trade. That what happening to me now. Guess I should really just face the reality and move on.

Ok. You are on step in.

LDR can work if you have money and business. From what you described, means you are NOT financially supporting her and her family etc.

I got a friend. A businessman. He has family in Singapore. He purposely setup branches for his company in Thailand and Vietnam. Last I know he got one gal in Thailand and one gal in Vietnam. He bought a condo in BKK, bought a car and give the gal allowance monthly. I think he did the same for the gal in Vietnam too.

So having enough money, most problems can be solved. Problem is not enough money.

What option does she has? To be able to earn enough money to support herself and her family without having your financial support? Saving cannot last long enough, need regular income.

Frankly, did you ask yourself this question :
If a gal has to continue working as WL and earn enough money to support herself and family, what is your value preposition to this "relationship"?

Another question that you need to ask yourself is :
What is the aim / goal that you want to achieve being in this relationship?

[bradpitt968]

FYI I'm been giving her monthly allowance. Sufficient for basic needs plus condo rental. Initially promised to work normal office job as she was a uni graduate. Now after awhile whining about the low pay and tiring to work in bangkok office.

Guess she used to the high maintenance standard of living and spurging money.

Not enough one.

When we are working, we are trading our time for money. Are you willing to work harder to earn more money? Yes right? To them, working as WL is not a xiong job. Because some customers finished in 5mins or less and that's it. Not all customers can whack fo 1-2hrs non stop. To them, working as WL is like working as Massage Lady.

If you want to have a LDR with her and she working normal job in BKK, it will be hard for her and for you.

All this goes back to the question :
What is your aim / goal for this relationship with her?

[bradpitt968]

Then there must be something were missing here. Perhaps she's doing this trade for a long time and change is irreversible. She tried to change but the push wasn't enough (money and your time with her) at some point she felt lonely. Condo rent + basic needs is atleast $800-1000 in BKK, even cheaper in other locations and plus her salary perhaps she needed more for her family?? Or maybe she just like doing the flesh trade and shes missing it?? What did she say?? Its definitely more tiring getting fckd for 12 hours rather than working in the office (with freedom to go out after work).

I don't know whether they have places like Geylang Cat50/60 in Bangkok, so if they were to work in to Massage place like Alaina or Nancy, they will not get banged for 12hrs a day. Maybe 6-8hrs a day max over 6-8 customers only. Plus if most customer finishes in 20mins of less, the rest of the time is TCSS or massage. I can't remember exactly but for about 6 customers a day, they will get about $300. Plus they can choose when they want to work.

So they probably get about $5K/mth (since they won't get 6 customers everyday).

I don't think they miss it but it is just a "Means to an end".

[Chrisk456]

I don't know whether they have places like Geylang Cat50/60 in Bangkok, so if they were to work in to Massage place like Alaina or Nancy, they will not get banged for 12hrs a day. Maybe 6-8hrs a day max over 6-8 customers only. Plus if most customer finishes in 20mins of less, the rest of the time is TCSS or massage. I can't remember exactly but for about 6 customers a day, they will get about $300. Plus they can choose when they want to work.

So they probably get about $5K/mth (since they won't get 6 customers everyday).

I don't think they miss it but it is just a "Means to an end".

They might be earning a lot but its not plain and flat they receive that cut of money besides they wouldnt be working like that for the rest of their lives if they do. Ive seen the bank accounts of an ex-GL lady in over 1 year of working recently, I cant believe what I just saw. Its a lot of money but it didnt meet the expectation Ive had from their line of work but can definitely buy a house and a good secondhand car. After that they usually consider working in other country, the cycle is Taiwan and/or Dubai. Sometimes Taiwan comes first then Singapore.

The point being is its not always rainbows and butterflies in their industry. If someone would support them financially maybe they can fold and change. MAYBE. Theres always a chance for them to go back to the flesh trade especially when the need arises. Its hard to predict them.

[Chrisk456]

I also dont understand why some bros try their luck with an ex-GL/WL girl. I understand its easier to KC them but the long-distance bs? The money to be invested? The mental torture? Id rather go hit and miss with an SG girl. There are also PRC girls who work decently in restaurants or offices, theyre easy target too if they think of it. I have an officemate in her 30s, still single and shes hot. Like common. We can do better.

Just remember, some people are honored as "heroes" or "saints" after they die. Not before. Be careful everyone.

[abcchinese8inch]

Ok. You are on step in.

LDR can work if you have money and business. From what you described, means you are NOT financially supporting her and her family etc.

I got a friend. A businessman. He has family in Singapore. He purposely setup branches for his company in Thailand and Vietnam. Last I know he got one gal in Thailand and one gal in Vietnam. He bought a condo in BKK, bought a car and give the gal allowance monthly. I think he did the same for the gal in Vietnam too.

So having enough money, most problems can be solved. Problem is not enough money.

What option does she has? To be able to earn enough money to support herself and her family without having your financial support? Saving cannot last long enough, need regular income.

Frankly, did you ask yourself this question :
If a gal has to continue working as WL and earn enough money to support herself and family, what is your value preposition to this "relationship"?

Another question that you need to ask yourself is :
What is the aim / goal that you want to achieve being in this relationship?


Actually it's really sustainable if she just stick to proper job in BKK and with my monthly allowance. (Average middle class with no luxury spending).

She has no family to support, only have to take care of herself.

Doesn't want to give too much info, less people decipher which girl was it, but she end her stint in Singapore way early. She dump a richer guy for me.

But end of the day, think she wouldn't go back to normal lifestyle. And I think she now kinda blame me for urging her to return home.

Won't doubt she used to love me, but now... I think it all about money. Even my ex-WL friends ask me to forget her, stating they know what thai girl think and used themselves as a benchmark.

End of day I just have to move on. But this time round, I guess I gongtao deeply. Even go find others girl, enjoyed the session, but few hour later the emptiness creep in again.

[Chrisk456]

Actually it's really sustainable if she just stick to proper job in BKK and with my monthly allowance. (Average middle class with no luxury spending).

She has no family to support, only have to take care of herself.

Doesn't want to give too much info, less people decipher which girl was it, but she end her stint in Singapore way early. She dump a richer guy for me.

But end of the day, think she wouldn't go back to normal lifestyle. And I think she now kinda blame me for urging her to return home.

Won't doubt she used to love me, but now... I think it all about money. Even my ex-WL friends ask me to forget her, stating they know what thai girl think and used themselves as a benchmark.

End of day I just have to move on. But this time round, I guess I gongtao deeply. Even go find others girl, enjoyed the session, but few hour later the emptiness creep in again.

I understand. Maybe you promised her something and she expected more. I couldn't blame her. Every WL has a dream in mind whenever they go the flesh trade (i.e., pay debt/loan, buy house, education for kids etc). As for your WL whom you claimed to not support her family, finished uni, cut her card early, dumped a rich guy and loved you. I think she did everything on her part and you didn't. Monthly allowance is good but shes expecting more on this. How often do you visit her? How often you call each other?

In this world that we live in its always about the money bro. Even us. Love couldn't buy food, make ups, bags, neither plane tickets to Japan. Love isn't enough. I think you could've done more. But it is what it is. WLs expectations are higher than normal ladies out there.

[bonkning]

But this time round, I guess I gongtao deeply. Even go find others girl, enjoyed the session, but few hour later the emptiness creep in again.
its normal bro,...everytime a super regular leaves, its normal to feel lost n empty. it wil take some time...at least mayb 2,3months ..
but its going to be longer for your case...mayb 6 to 9 months....unless or until u find another soecial someone.
is it worth all the pain....idk.

[Rubbaking]

Cannot lah. Like that is not relationship liao. This is more like master and slave.

In relationship, remember that when it is gone, just know that it is part and parcel of life and move on.

How do we keep a person under surveiliance? This is crazy idea. It will not work. Plus it will make the person that setup all this more sad.

If the other party has the intention to cheat on you, no matter what you prepare, it will never be enough. So just let nature takes it course. Whatever is fated to belong to you will always end up with you without one doing anything. A relationship is not to stress one further when life on its own is already stressful enough.

[Rubbaking]

Actually it's really sustainable if she just stick to proper job in BKK and with my monthly allowance. (Average middle class with no luxury spending).

She has no family to support, only have to take care of herself.

Doesn't want to give too much info, less people decipher which girl was it, but she end her stint in Singapore way early. She dump a richer guy for me.

But end of the day, think she wouldn't go back to normal lifestyle. And I think she now kinda blame me for urging her to return home.

Won't doubt she used to love me, but now... I think it all about money. Even my ex-WL friends ask me to forget her, stating they know what thai girl think and used themselves as a benchmark.

End of day I just have to move on. But this time round, I guess I gongtao deeply. Even go find others girl, enjoyed the session, but few hour later the emptiness creep in again.

At least you enjoyed the sessions, as for me, my dick cannot even stand. Sigh.

[Rubbaking]

Are you talking about you financially support them fully or no?

Even if you are financially fully supporting them, you need to keep them reasonably occupied daily. Best is let them do some work, some small business. If not, then she may get bored and do shit stuff. Especially if they have bad friends.

If a guy is not financially supporting them fully, then how is she going to support herself and takes care of her liability and responsibility?

You are referring to both of you NOT staying together but supporting her financially fully? This one is challenging because you are not there for her physically. If one is in this situation, very tricky.

If not staying with her, best is support her financially partially. But if you do that, then what do you expect her to do when her family needs money? Ask from you? Will you give? After you give her the money, would you feel that you "own" her?

So the biggest question is survival. If not enough money, she will have to find the money somewhere. Especially if she really love you and know that you are not very rich, how?

I encountered that before too. Remember, to these girls, even if you give 6 figure, to them it is nothing. They can tell you they can easily earn that in a year or two. And they have seen all sorts of life and all sort of guys.

[Chillbill]

I have a friend who gave big sums of money to a WL but her appetite was insatiable. As soon as he decided to stop, all communications ceased. Talk about “love”! Betting on 4D n Toto makes more sense than trying to enter a relationship with a WL. Why squander money on one and yourself into emotional turmoil? At best, just be a good customer at the house and be a friend outside if the WL does go out.

[Rubbaking]

I have a friend who gave big sums of money to a WL but her appetite was insatiable. As soon as he decided to stop, all communications ceased. Talk about “love”! Betting on 4D n Toto makes more sense than trying to enter a relationship with a WL. Why squander money on one and yourself into emotional turmoil? At best, just be a good customer at the house and be a friend outside if the WL does go out.

Truly said. As the saying goes, relationship based on money or sex is never a true relationship, though sex factor is indeed important. But yet most men fall because of dick brain, me included.

[abcchinese8inch]

I have a friend who gave big sums of money to a WL but her appetite was insatiable. As soon as he decided to stop, all communications ceased. Talk about “love”! Betting on 4D n Toto makes more sense than trying to enter a relationship with a WL. Why squander money on one and yourself into emotional turmoil? At best, just be a good customer at the house and be a friend outside if the WL does go out.


Agree... I'm still in contact with some ex-WL. When I told them my situation all advise me to stop communication with the girl and visit as many new WL instead.

Really thought this relationship will work out... end up just getting heartache. Amount spend on her is enough to go geylang daily sia zzz.

Personally don't advise going out with WL during off day. The expenses is shocking especially if you don't drive. Once I go out the entire day to multiple location. The day grab fare alone maybe close to 100....

[Chrisk456]

If someone wants to get in a relationship with a WL, you need to take control of the game or at least share the rule-making of the game as I do with mine. You all have to remember the reason why a lady works in this industry:

1. Earn money
2. Earn money
3. Earn money

Basically she controls the whole game. The amount of money someone invests is not commensurate to the sacrifice the lady has already made getting into the flesh trade. Want to get into a relationship? Dont want to involve big sum of money? Take control of the game. Seems impossible? Then stop!

[abcchinese8inch]

If someone wants to get in a relationship with a WL, you need to take control of the game or at least share the rule-making of the game as I do with mine. You all have to remember the reason why a lady works in this industry:

1. Earn money
2. Earn money
3. Earn money

Basically she controls the whole game. The amount of money someone invests is not commensurate to the sacrifice the lady has already made getting into the flesh trade. Want to get into a relationship? Dont want to involve big sum of money? Take control of the game. Seems impossible? Then stop!

Agreed. Initially I'm the 1 controlling. Now I tio gongtao. Get controlled. Now attempting to get out of this emotion

[Darge]

Agreed. Initially I'm the 1 controlling. Now I tio gongtao. Get controlled. Now attempting to get out of this emotion

Be strong! You will break free. Think of the sufferings she caused you!

[Chrisk456]

Agreed. Initially I'm the 1 controlling. Now I tio gongtao. Get controlled. Now attempting to get out of this emotion

Its hard to play the KC game as it is a long game. But no one lady has the same deck of cards always remember that. One bro should be flexible and able to stack various factors in mind to be able to predict probabilities of success in the long run like playing in casino. One thing is for sure, love isn't enough. Make compromise and maybe it will work.

Just accept the hard truth, this game is not everyone. Even if one is rich, no one can win this game in its entirety. When I mean by "win" is when you grow old together without any cheating or anything.

Try visiting different girls right now and the feeling will naturally go away.

[Chillbill]

Abide by the 3Rs: Release (just have a good fuck), Rotate (try different WLs and MLs) and Restrain (be disciplined and don’t get emotionally entangled). Heard about too many victims and met a number of heartbroken dudes. Venture into Geylang with your eyes open.

[Chrisk456]

Abide by the 3Rs: Release (just have a good fuck), Rotate (try different WLs and MLs) and Restrain (be disciplined and don’t get emotionally entangled). Heard about too many victims and met a number of heartbroken dudes. Venture into Geylang with your eyes open.

Agree. If the WL tries to share a sob story tell the lady nicely that youre not interested as the owner of this forum has advised. Were all human beings and were capable of feeling sad about some other people's poor life. Whether its true or not once youve felt sad about them no bro can ever go out and theres a high chance youll RTF her for more and listen to her stories. Much worse youll fall in love. If you have the will and money then go play. Otherwise go back to step 1 and dont listen/invest a feeling with the lady. Such a simple rule and yet bros are still coming back here complaining the same issue..

[bradpitt968]

They might be earning a lot but its not plain and flat they receive that cut of money besides they wouldnt be working like that for the rest of their lives if they do. Ive seen the bank accounts of an ex-GL lady in over 1 year of working recently, I cant believe what I just saw. Its a lot of money but it didnt meet the expectation Ive had from their line of work but can definitely buy a house and a good secondhand car. After that they usually consider working in other country, the cycle is Taiwan and/or Dubai. Sometimes Taiwan comes first then Singapore.

The point being is its not always rainbows and butterflies in their industry. If someone would support them financially maybe they can fold and change. MAYBE. Theres always a chance for them to go back to the flesh trade especially when the need arises. Its hard to predict them.

Yah. Actual, it is the same for us also. We have a fix period of time to work and earn money. The money we earned must last us till we passed on and also take care of our family.

[bradpitt968]

Actually it's really sustainable if she just stick to proper job in BKK and with my monthly allowance. (Average middle class with no luxury spending).

She has no family to support, only have to take care of herself.

Doesn't want to give too much info, less people decipher which girl was it, but she end her stint in Singapore way early. She dump a richer guy for me.

But end of the day, think she wouldn't go back to normal lifestyle. And I think she now kinda blame me for urging her to return home.

Won't doubt she used to love me, but now... I think it all about money. Even my ex-WL friends ask me to forget her, stating they know what thai girl think and used themselves as a benchmark.

End of day I just have to move on. But this time round, I guess I gongtao deeply. Even go find others girl, enjoyed the session, but few hour later the emptiness creep in again.

Oh no, you asked her to cut short her time in Singapore and go back? When you ask somebody to do something like this, you become the one responsible, whatever shit that happens.

Yah. The feeling of knowing somebody out there thinking of us is nice.

[Chrisk456]

Oh no, you asked her to cut short her time in Singapore and go back? When you ask somebody to do something like this, you become the one responsible, whatever shit that happens.

Yah. The feeling of knowing somebody out there thinking of us is nice.

The lady have high expectations due to that and maybe our guy overpromised. Its not simple having a relationship with an ex WL/FL. Never simple. It is always bound to fail unless each of them do their part. Their situation must be easy to be honest, a lady who doesn't support her family, no sick family, no loan repayment and a uni grad. Its relatively easy and I have no idea why it failed.

Moving forward just dont get into a relationship with a WL/FL. Its mentally exhausting thinking if youre the only BF, or where is she at this moment (maybe meeting with other previous customers) while youre sending their dating money haha

[abcchinese8inch]

Oh no, you asked her to cut short her time in Singapore and go back? When you ask somebody to do something like this, you become the one responsible, whatever shit that happens.

Yah. The feeling of knowing somebody out there thinking of us is nice.

Nope, before we even start the relationship, she already mention she only here for short period and will end her stint earlier.

Have to say this relationship has its up and down, there was a period where we quarrel to the point that she block me all communication. That period im midst of moving on, and 1 day she told me she returning Thai. That when i start to fall back.

The lady have high expectations due to that and maybe our guy overpromised. Its not simple having a relationship with an ex WL/FL. Never simple. It is always bound to fail unless each of them do their part. Their situation must be easy to be honest, a lady who doesn't support her family, no sick family, no loan repayment and a uni grad. Its relatively easy and I have no idea why it failed.

Moving forward just dont get into a relationship with a WL/FL. Its mentally exhausting thinking if youre the only BF, or where is she at this moment (maybe meeting with other previous customers) while youre sending their dating money haha

Didnt overpromised. Set all the arrangement upfront and she agreed, and to date, i still kept to the promise.

Think time for me to face reality and stop hoping for the Cinderella ending. End of day she used to the quick cash. Unless i can sponsor her THB100K minimum per month, there no way i see any future. Last time i still can see her phone, has her password. Now cant even see what she doing on her phone. (red flag).

[bradpitt968]

If the other party has the intention to cheat on you, no matter what you prepare, it will never be enough. So just let nature takes it course. Whatever is fated to belong to you will always end up with you without one doing anything. A relationship is not to stress one further when life on its own is already stressful enough.

Agree. If need to do such surveilience, the very act will drive that person away. Will lose that person faster.

[bradpitt968]

I have a friend who gave big sums of money to a WL but her appetite was insatiable. As soon as he decided to stop, all communications ceased. Talk about “love”! Betting on 4D n Toto makes more sense than trying to enter a relationship with a WL. Why squander money on one and yourself into emotional turmoil? At best, just be a good customer at the house and be a friend outside if the WL does go out.

Did your friend see her family? Go to Thailand and stay and meet all the family members? If no, he already give so much money?

[bradpitt968]

Agree... I'm still in contact with some ex-WL. When I told them my situation all advise me to stop communication with the girl and visit as many new WL instead.

Really thought this relationship will work out... end up just getting heartache. Amount spend on her is enough to go geylang daily sia zzz.

Personally don't advise going out with WL during off day. The expenses is shocking especially if you don't drive. Once I go out the entire day to multiple location. The day grab fare alone maybe close to 100....

That's why I say : What do you want out of it?

Free good sex on long term basis? Can lah but not easy.

[Rubbaking]

That's why I say : What do you want out of it?

Free good sex on long term basis? Can lah but not easy.

No matter how good is the sex, after more than a thousand times, also sianz. Sometimes less headache end of day could be better. Always have exit plan but of course we should not be bastards and still need to be thoughtful to them to some extent.

[Kobayashi99]

Nope, before we even start the relationship, she already mention she only here for short period and will end her stint earlier.

Have to say this relationship has its up and down, there was a period where we quarrel to the point that she block me all communication. That period im midst of moving on, and 1 day she told me she returning Thai. That when i start to fall back.



Didnt overpromised. Set all the arrangement upfront and she agreed, and to date, i still kept to the promise.

Think time for me to face reality and stop hoping for the Cinderella ending. End of day she used to the quick cash. Unless i can sponsor her THB100K minimum per month, there no way i see any future. Last time i still can see her phone, has her password. Now cant even see what she doing on her phone. (red flag).

Lol
100k thb also cannot sponsor
Don't come out throw face lei by airing your grievances

[Chrisk456]

Didnt overpromised. Set all the arrangement upfront and she agreed, and to date, i still kept to the promise.

Think time for me to face reality and stop hoping for the Cinderella ending. End of day she used to the quick cash. Unless i can sponsor her THB100K minimum per month, there no way i see any future. Last time i still can see her phone, has her password. Now cant even see what she doing on her phone. (red flag).

Ok. My apologies I guess you did your best. Giving 100k THB is too much if she really loves you. I think shes just testing the waters unto you if she can live outside the night life and I believe after all she realizes that she needed the money bro. Just try another girl and youll move on in no time or we can drink it out if you want, i know a place where a lot of thai girls hang out. Just pick, have fun and enjoy being single haha

[Chrisk456]

That's why I say : What do you want out of it?

Free good sex on long term basis? Can lah but not easy.

Agree haha free sex on long term basis where to get it nowadays?? If I were the girl ill have someone pay me than to give free sex.

[galaxyass]

From what i read so far, 100THB is on the high side... i guess she want to maintain a high level of living in thailand, i am sure bros who stay in thailand long term before will roughly know the cost... i guess this amount is used to take care of her whole family... even if reach to the stage of meeting her parents and making peparation for marriage, things can also happen after giving all ur money to her parent for the marriage... my advise is if you really want the bf gf feel and have the abilityto spend, just make a short term plan to enjoy and move on.... we are no match for them in terms of KC.

[Chrisk456]

From what i read so far, 100THB is on the high side... i guess she want to maintain a high level of living in thailand, i am sure bros who stay in thailand long term before will roughly know the cost... i guess this amount is used to take care of her whole family... even if reach to the stage of meeting her parents and making peparation for marriage, things can also happen after giving all ur money to her parent for the marriage... my advise is if you really want the bf gf feel and have the abilityto spend, just make a short term plan to enjoy and move on.... we are no match for them in terms of KC.

Depends on the girl actually. Given his girl's circumstances 100k THB is way too much. If the girl have the whole family to feed including her sibling's kids plus education or have someone that is sick then 100k THB it is. A few girls doesn't ask this too much unless the girl only want you for money..

[bradpitt968]

No matter how good is the sex, after more than a thousand times, also sianz. Sometimes less headache end of day could be better. Always have exit plan but of course we should not be bastards and still need to be thoughtful to them to some extent.

Frankly, I am ok. Close to a 1,000 times and still wanting more. My record was cum 4 times within an hour.

We shouldn't have thoughts to screw them up emotionally or other aspect and we should make sure we don't kena from anybody.

[bradpitt968]

Ok. My apologies I guess you did your best. Giving 100k THB is too much if she really loves you. I think shes just testing the waters unto you if she can live outside the night life and I believe after all she realizes that she needed the money bro. Just try another girl and youll move on in no time or we can drink it out if you want, i know a place where a lot of thai girls hang out. Just pick, have fun and enjoy being single haha

Wah, have ah? Please PM me leh.

[bradpitt968]

Nope, before we even start the relationship, she already mention she only here for short period and will end her stint earlier.

Have to say this relationship has its up and down, there was a period where we quarrel to the point that she block me all communication. That period im midst of moving on, and 1 day she told me she returning Thai. That when i start to fall back.



Didnt overpromised. Set all the arrangement upfront and she agreed, and to date, i still kept to the promise.

Think time for me to face reality and stop hoping for the Cinderella ending. End of day she used to the quick cash. Unless i can sponsor her THB100K minimum per month, there no way i see any future. Last time i still can see her phone, has her password. Now cant even see what she doing on her phone. (red flag).

What do you want to achieve ultimately? Marry her? Have children?

What do you want to see on her handphone? Does she has full access to see your phone last time too?

THB$100K/mth is about SGD$4K/mth. It is a good amount even in SG context.

[Rubbaking]

Frankly, I am ok. Close to a 1,000 times and still wanting more. My record was cum 4 times within an hour.

We shouldn't have thoughts to screw them up emotionally or other aspect and we should make sure we don't kena from anybody.

Wow. Average cum in 15 minutes. Salute you bro. I wish I can do that and do not have to bear the grunt of my gf suspecting I am not aroused by her anymore. Agreed on your last statement.

[Rubbaking]

To the TS who mentioned 4k/mth, trust me bro. Once you give 4k, she will start to ask for more and never be satisfied. We must remember these girls can earn way more in the flesh trade, easily, and they do not give shit about morality nor their body nor std risks. She had you by the pinkie, and threatened you by barring you. Whatever you encountered, I had too as well as given more. I probably encountered hundred of barring even over slightest disagreement even when I am not in the wrong. A girl who truly loves you will never torture you physically or mentally. End of the day, the more you learn to let go, the more she will come to you instead, if she indeed loves you.

[galaxyass]

Well.... to a WL that earns 15k to 20k every mth, she will think that 4k is very cheap for us... but the true fact is 4k is what some of us is getting per mth and some even get abit lower... i know a person who even take up a 2nd or 3rd job just to support the WL, he spends 95% of his time making money for her... thats the power of love... if she really stay faithful and appreciate him, i guess its still worth the effort... but worse part is she use the money to support his bf and mod his pick up truck.... this is a really heart breaking situation... all in the name of love...

[galaxyass]

Ok. My apologies I guess you did your best. Giving 100k THB is too much if she really loves you. I think shes just testing the waters unto you if she can live outside the night life and I believe after all she realizes that she needed the money bro. Just try another girl and youll move on in no time or we can drink it out if you want, i know a place where a lot of thai girls hang out. Just pick, have fun and enjoy being single haha
Side track abit... pls share the place to pick up thai girls... im sure many of us can use this to get over their heartache and move on easily...

[bradpitt968]

Wow. Average cum in 15 minutes. Salute you bro. I wish I can do that and do not have to bear the grunt of my gf suspecting I am not aroused by her anymore. Agreed on your last statement.

Yah. Need to train for that. You should be in your 30s I guess. Your gf is Singaporean gal I suppose? From my personal experience, not many Sporean gals are willing to suck dry when cum then swallow.

I get especially turned on when the gal were to suck me dry and swallow. On seeing that, it makes my dick still stay hard even after I cummed. So back and forth, I can just keep continuing.

But only the first may 2-3 shots still got more sperm, after that there is not much left anymore. But still feel shiok lah.

PS : Another tip is that Avocado milk shake helps make our cum a bit sweet.

[bradpitt968]

To the TS who mentioned 4k/mth, trust me bro. Once you give 4k, she will start to ask for more and never be satisfied. We must remember these girls can earn way more in the flesh trade, easily, and they do not give shit about morality nor their body nor std risks. She had you by the pinkie, and threatened you by barring you. Whatever you encountered, I had too as well as given more. I probably encountered hundred of barring even over slightest disagreement even when I am not in the wrong. A girl who truly loves you will never torture you physically or mentally. End of the day, the more you learn to let go, the more she will come to you instead, if she indeed loves you.

This is the thing about relationship. Plus the "Lost in translation", plus the lousy internet connection, there will always be misinterpretation.

If you are always the one that initiates the texting, this is also one possible red flag.

[Rubbaking]

This is the thing about relationship. Plus the "Lost in translation", plus the lousy internet connection, there will always be misinterpretation.

If you are always the one that initiates the texting, this is also one possible red flag.

Speak from experience itself bro. Concurred. I realised nooks and body can never outlast gentleness and real love.

[Rubbaking]

Yah. Need to train for that. You should be in your 30s I guess. Your gf is Singaporean gal I suppose? From my personal experience, not many Sporean gals are willing to suck dry when cum then swallow.

I get especially turned on when the gal were to suck me dry and swallow. On seeing that, it makes my dick still stay hard even after I cummed. So back and forth, I can just keep continuing.

But only the first may 2-3 shots still got more sperm, after that there is not much left anymore. But still feel shiok lah.

PS : Another tip is that Avocado milk shake helps make our cum a bit sweet.

No wonder so much avocado smoothie all around. Lol. Gf is not local. Give up on local long ago and I am way past 30s. I agreed with you on the getting hard after suck dry part. Heavenly.

[Rubbaking]

Side track abit... pls share the place to pick up thai girls... im sure many of us can use this to get over their heartache and move on easily...

And then create more heartaches thereafter?

[galaxyass]

And then create more heartaches thereafter?
Haha... thats what we habe been doing all along.... no pain no fun....🤣🤣🤣

[MichaelWinn]

Well.... to a WL that earns 15k to 20k every mth, she will think that 4k is very cheap for us... but the true fact is 4k is what some of us is getting per mth and some even get abit lower... i know a person who even take up a 2nd or 3rd job just to support the WL, he spends 95% of his time making money for her... thats the power of love... if she really stay faithful and appreciate him, i guess its still worth the effort... but worse part is she use the money to support his bf and mod his pick up truck.... this is a really heart breaking situation... all in the name of love...
The Thai word is piichai ....correct me if I am wrong,.meaning the Thai bf

[galaxyass]

The Thai word is piichai ....correct me if I am wrong,.meaning the Thai bf
Sorry i cannot speak Thai at all... maybe that explain why i always fail..... hahaha.....

[bradpitt968]

Sorry i cannot speak Thai at all... maybe that explain why i always fail..... hahaha.....

Find a Thai gf and learn lah. I am also learning now.

[galaxyass]

Find a Thai gf and learn lah. I am also learning now.
You are learning from your thai gf?

[bradpitt968]

You are learning from your thai gf?

Any Thai that you frequently in contact with can liao. Don't need to be gf also can mah.

[Rubbaking]

Any Thai that you frequently in contact with can liao. Don't need to be gf also can mah.

Sometimes my personal view is best not to learn from gf. There is a reason why we outsourced kids tuition to external as well. Currently I am also learning from apps instead of gf.

[Allanooi]

The Thai word is piichai ....correct me if I am wrong,.meaning the Thai bf

Pi chai means older brother in thai…

[bradpitt968]

Up for more sharing.

[Rubbaking]

The ones they truly loved are those they pump money back to their home country for.

[Icarusfly]

The ones they truly loved are those they pump money back to their home country for.

That’s true to a certain extent. But once you can’t pump any more money to them. They will still dump you even after years of seemingly good relationship with no indication of problem. Sorry to say this but I’ve seen this happening all the time. Successful long term relationships are very rare.

[galaxyass]

That’s true to a certain extent. But once you can’t pump any more money to them. They will still dump you even after years of seemingly good relationship with no indication of problem. Sorry to say this but I’ve seen this happening all the time. Successful long term relationships are very rare.
I second the above... i have seen long relationship even till they registered for marriage also get dumped once your well starts to dried up.... and tjey always tell you that the man in their homeland are playboy so they like SG man more, but the actual fact is that they themselves also has many boyfriends and they are all well kept and hidden...

[Rubbaking]

That’s true to a certain extent. But once you can’t pump any more money to them. They will still dump you even after years of seemingly good relationship with no indication of problem. Sorry to say this but I’ve seen this happening all the time. Successful long term relationships are very rare.

Certainly right. But there are also many examples of them working in this line to pump money back to their bfs in their home countries. Now that is true love from them to their bfs.

[iceman6666]

Sad to say, no matter how nice we treat each other (the WL), ultimately their aim for coming here is money, and our initial aim was the sex. Maybe its just mutual accompaniment, maybe its just 2 lonely hearts. When push comes to shove, they will often choose the pragmatic and practical side of the house. After all, it is this pragmatism that pushed them to work as a WL in the first place.

Enjoy each other's company while it lasts, and reward the WL accordingly. I think this is the most we could ask for.

[unfit]

that’s why I really salute my friends who married ex WLs:D

can be milked 24/7 with no regrets;)

think of it isn’t it silly to do that:p

Boss Sam said Whores are for fucking not loving:)

but me fall for whores so many times till lost count

until now still wanna settle down with ex WL

black magic gong tao or self made:confused:

[Ecuader]

but me fall for whores so many times till lost count

until now still wanna settle down with ex WL

black magic gong tao or self made:confused:

Cos of lonely 😂

[Darge]

that’s why I really salute my friends who married ex WLs:D

can be milked 24/7 with no regrets;)

think of it isn’t it silly to do that:p

Boss Sam said Whores are for fucking not loving:)

but me fall for whores so many times till lost count

until now still wanna settle down with ex WL

black magic gong tao or self made:confused:

Not EZ to marry WL.

[bonkning]

Boss Sam said Whores are for fucking not loving:)
but me fall for whores so many times till lost count
until now still wanna settle down with ex WL
black magic gong tao or self made:confused:
u happi can laew lorh...whos to say worth or not.
i dun think can put a value to it as long as u can afford it n happy paying for it.
if money can buy happiness...why not

[Fat Fatt]

that’s why I really salute my friends who married ex WLs:D

can be milked 24/7 with no regrets;)

think of it isn’t it silly to do that:p

Boss Sam said Whores are for fucking not loving:)

but me fall for whores so many times till lost count

until now still wanna settle down with ex WL

black magic gong tao or self made:confused:

I always believe no matter how bad or material a girl is, there will always be something that makes them tick and love. They can love and commit if you are the right person.

[Darge]

I always believe no matter how bad or material a girl is, there will always be something that makes them tick and love. They can love and commit if you are the right person.

Still need $$$, no $$$ no honey 🍯

[unfit]

Cos of lonely 😂

Yes 100% agree to this :)

Not EZ to marry WL.

Need to be able to support her expenditure;)

u happi can laew lorh...whos to say worth or not.
i dun think can put a value to it as long as u can afford it n happy paying for it.
if money can buy happiness...why not

no money no honey very true:)

I always believe no matter how bad or material a girl is, there will always be something that makes them tick and love. They can love and commit if you are the right person.

TBH I am seeing the way they draining my friends money is so damn scary:eek:

Luckily my these friends are very well to do so far not bankrupt yet :D

But I guess so a matter of time only:)

[Chillbill]

Was quite put off when a regular WL started telling me the offers made to her and others. Sigh….

[Icarusfly]

Yes 100% agree to this :)



Need to be able to support her expenditure;)



no money no honey very true:)



TBH I am seeing the way they draining my friends money is so damn scary:eek:

Luckily my these friends are very well to do so far not bankrupt yet :D

But I guess so a matter of time only:)

I’ve also seen cases where WL goes back to home country and keeps in touch like normal daily chat. Letting you know how’s her life is like and so on. This can go on for years even. Then one fine day ask for financial assistance. When you tell them you’re not able to, you get blocked. There are rare cases of genuine relationships even at a friendship level post GL ROD but heck most are mercenaries.

[unfit]

I’ve also seen cases where WL goes back to home country and keeps in touch like normal daily chat. Letting you know how’s her life is like and so on. This can go on for years even. Then one fine day ask for financial assistance. When you tell them you’re not able to, you get blocked. There are rare cases of genuine relationships even at a friendship level post GL ROD but heck most are mercenaries.

Yes mostly me kena loan within months of departure:p

after all pure friendship almost impossible cos they need money;)

that’s why sell pussy:)

to me if fly over for companionship then must pay buy gift :D

[lexxxz]

Bro. I empathy with you. I also cheong for 20 years plus already. Truth be told, most of the time when I encounter is all about money, even if not, I know myself, I can't settle down in their countries cos of commitment I have in sg. But I have also know fact stories about FL ML or GL WL having a relationship after their trip in Sg. Known a WL yearss ago, having her Facebook, and after her stint in SG, saw she was engage to a SG man. 10 over years past, she still together with this guy. Probably the guy went over her country to settle down.

So you must think, can you do that? If you can't , better just FnF... Or get smart and play mind games with her to enjoy the process.

nice advice broo

[bradpitt968]

Yes mostly me kena loan within months of departure:p

after all pure friendship almost impossible cos they need money;)

that’s why sell pussy:)

to me if fly over for companionship then must pay buy gift :D

We all need money.

Once they go back, unless they have good plan that actually worked out and can generate constant stream of income to support their family and themselves, who is going to support them?

Unless a guy is rich enough to support them financially, they will have to continue to work.

Just like all of us, we must work, pay for whatever and then saved and planned for our retirement. Or when we don't have income. If we don't have enough to tahan us when we are not working, who will support us?

Frankly, what wrong with them working as prostitude? Scammers worst right? Probably even some politicians are worst. There will be those who say whatever to get guys to give them money but there are many who don't do that.

As the saying goes :

Somebody cheat us once, shame on them.
Somebody cheat us twice, blame ourselves.

[unfit]

We all need money.

Once they go back, unless they have good plan that actually worked out and can generate constant stream of income to support their family and themselves, who is going to support them?

Unless a guy is rich enough to support them financially, they will have to continue to work.

Just like all of us, we must work, pay for whatever and then saved and planned for our retirement. Or when we don't have income. If we don't have enough to tahan us when we are not working, who will support us?

Frankly, what wrong with them working as prostitude? Scammers worst right? Probably even some politicians are worst. There will be those who say whatever to get guys to give them money but there are many who don't do that.

As the saying goes :

Somebody cheat us once, shame on them.
Somebody cheat us twice, blame ourselves.



Prostitute aka Positive attitude;)

[walao]

nice advice broo


One of my friend Did that bro....they happily taking care of their twins with his gorgeous ex-Viet WL. Its all fate which I truly believe, respect and mutual understanding. And they are making money and happily ever after, thats what most important. And yes he did settle down there, working in Saigon with his wife and kids with them, but never forget to go back to his wife's hometown up north during winter, which they saved up and built a holiday bungalow. Not expensive, about $240,000 for a 210sqm stand alone bungalow in Thai Nguyen province (50 min northeast of Hanoi). Very beautiful wife and rosy cheeks twin son and daughter. And who said ex WLs cannot come back? As long as they are armed with marriage certs and better still pay income taxes, any government welcome them back.

This guy is rather intelligent and fast learner (from an elite institiuition in Sg and my same year schoolmate). An architect by profession and able to pick up passable Vietnamese language within 5-6mths besides his damn fluent Thai, Japanese, Chinese, Hokkien, Cantonese, Laotian, Russian and English. And luckily for him, his wife speaks passable Chinese eversince she worked in Sg for only close to 1 year. He did a few beautiful hotel projects in Vietnam whule working in an int'l archi firm in Saigon and he is indeed doing pretty well. He is indeed daring to venture out and probably because the power of love. Its all about fate, with determination and true love. And luckily for his wife, she is an orphan with a sec 1 educational level, so no commitment in terms of supporting her too much. Just earn and saving up and guo ri zi for their future. Both couple pretty much entreprenuer. Hardworking and hilarious couple...really do envy them. Wishing them well always. A相夫教子 plus a manicure and pedicure shop owner beautiful wife at the moment with big sparkling eyes and high nose bridge + An intelligent and respectable and ok looking sg hubby. 10+ years apart in terms of ages.

Nothing is impossible in this world, its ai zhor mai zhor nia, ai love truly mai love truly nia....

Wish you well, my 'emigrated' Sg-Viet friend.

Cheers!
Walao

[naan1974]

Was quite put off when a regular WL started telling me the offers made to her and others. Sigh….

Like what indecent offer

[naan1974]

One of my friend Did that bro....they happily taking care of their twins with his gorgeous ex-Viet WL. Its all fate which I truly believe, respect and mutual understanding. And they are making money and happily ever after, thats what most important. And yes he did settle down there, working in Saigon with his wife and kids with them, but never forget to go back to his wife's hometown up north during winter, which they saved up and built a holiday bungalow. Not expensive, about $240,000 for a 210sqm stand alone bungalow in Thai Nguyen province (50 min northeast of Hanoi). Very beautiful wife and rosy cheeks twin son and daughter. And who said ex WLs cannot come back? As long as they are armed with marriage certs and better still pay income taxes, any government welcome them back.

This guy is rather intelligent and fast learner (from an elite institiuition in Sg and my same year schoolmate). An architect by profession and able to pick up passable Vietnamese language within 5-6mths besides his damn fluent Thai, Japanese, Chinese, Hokkien, Cantonese, Laotian, Russian and English. And luckily for him, his wife speaks passable Chinese eversince she worked in Sg for only close to 1 year. He did a few beautiful hotel projects in Vietnam whule working in an int'l archi firm in Saigon and he is indeed doing pretty well. He is indeed daring to venture out and probably because the power of love. Its all about fate, with determination and true love. And luckily for his wife, she is an orphan with a sec 1 educational level, so no commitment in terms of supporting her too much. Just earn and saving up and guo ri zi for their future. Both couple pretty much entreprenuer. Hardworking and hilarious couple...really do envy them. Wishing them well always. A相夫教子 plus a manicure and pedicure shop owner beautiful wife at the moment with big sparkling eyes and high nose bridge + An intelligent and respectable and ok looking sg hubby. 10+ years apart in terms of ages.

Nothing is impossible in this world, its ai zhor mai zhor nia, ai love truly mai love truly nia....

Wish you well, my 'emigrated' Sg-Viet friend.

Cheers!
Walao

Indeed there are good ending . I wont deny as my personal friend has settled down in bkk with a ex wl and have a family. having said that, I don't think we should advocate such mirage like fairytale here. Honestly The hit rate is less than 0.01%, let's not egg those on the edge. It will be more painful then good we all know that.

[walao]

Indeed there are good ending . I wont deny as my personal friend has settled down in bkk with a ex wl and have a family. having said that, I don't think we should advocate such mirage like fairytale here. Honestly The hit rate is less than 0.01%, let's not egg those on the edge. It will be more painful then good we all know that.


I wouldn't advocate its a mirage or fairytale myths. Its still possible. Not 0.01% to me, rather a 2-3% happy ending rate. 2 more stories with Thai Ex WLs with similar outcome, which I will not continue to say. All scales down to will power from both parties, and not everyone can do it. There might be more unreported, just my 2 cents worth of real life stories sharing.

To each his individual.

Cheers,
Walao

[Chrisk456]

I’ve also seen cases where WL goes back to home country and keeps in touch like normal daily chat. Letting you know how’s her life is like and so on. This can go on for years even. Then one fine day ask for financial assistance. When you tell them you’re not able to, you get blocked. There are rare cases of genuine relationships even at a friendship level post GL ROD but heck most are mercenaries.

Im going to be frank about this. Coming from the WLs themselves, its true that they're trying to keep in touch so if the need arises they can send help but they can love only one and she'll take care of that one love. As for others youll be kept in the farm as milking cows.

But we have to respect these WLs as it is their way of living unlike most of us who can just quit our jobs tomorrow, shit with our coworkers/bosses and find another one the next morning. Its not the case for them so we shouldnt feel bad, but rather BE SMART ENOUGH. Imagine being born a woman from a poor family and didn't finish education bearing 1 to 3 children, sometimes 4 then without a husband and any money.

We also all have to accept that love isn't enough nowadays. Someone loves you from uni or poly then good for you but once they got out of the real world, reality hits quick. Good future, education, housing, travel and leisure all requires MONEY.

They're also human and they're capable of loving someone whether it be a thai boi, sg local or a foreinger from some other place. Some WLs fund their boyfriends back at home to continue education or car tune ups while doing this job. Theyre capable of loving as well its just that they also have the ability to choose like all of us from the fish tank.

Cheers to everyone and we shouldn't bear hard feelings when they didn't love back.

Greetings from Chiang Mai by the way and enjoy the view :D;) 727380

[Chrisk456]

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[lexxxz]

all woman want to rich but see like chipers when she do stupid way,

if she love u,she always support u,help u for money management and support to life much better no cheating

[walao]

all woman want to rich but see like chipers when she do stupid way,

if she love u,she always support u,help u for money management and support to life much better no cheating

Sounds like mine...

[Chrisk456]

all woman want to rich but see like chipers when she do stupid way,

if she love u,she always support u,help u for money management and support to life much better no cheating

There's always someone the WL loves. They're also human. And as they need money as I've mentioned earlier, 99% of the customers are milking cows. Don't feel bad. That only one she truly loves will have it all.

[walao]

There's always someone the WL loves. They're also human. And as they need money as I've mentioned earlier, 99% of the customers are milking cows. Don't feel bad. That only one she truly loves will have it all.


Agree. Had seen 4 successful cases in my lifetime in GL (2 Thais & 2 Viets) All still going strong. Longest more than 15 years to date, happily married with kids and blissful lives. One rather touching case. Ex WL donated one of her kidney to her sg hubby due to his illness, even more loving..unbreakable.

1. More than 15 years with beautiful kids. Sg❤Thai
2. Happily married with twin daughter and son. Both financially solid. Sg❤Viet.
3. Happily married. Wife expecting 1st child. Sg❤Viet.
4. Touching and Loving, donated kidney case. Sg❤Thai.

P.s. possible 2 more beautiful cases in the near future. Both Viets. Wishing them all the very best. Usually these guys are in their mid-ages in the late 40s. Financially stable and most importantly, strong will power (likewise for the gals), mature and most importantly sincere ans bachelors. Just that fate played on them at the very beginning in a not so favourable environment. Yes, we and they are all humans, not made of stone. Some hardcore disagree fellas will never believe or refuse to believe, but they are still some who choose to believe. Up to individuals. Everyone thumb prints are different, so diff. Thoughts and opinions. Do not behave like a frog (in a well), there are things that can and do happen. Not painting rosy pictures, just stating facts of life.

Rest my case.

Walao

Walao

[Rubbaking]

Prostitute aka Positive attitude;)

Lol. You pick up fast from neo neo…

[unfit]

Lol. You pick up fast from neo neo…

Alphard suspension tester too :D

[Peterwong2013]

all woman want to rich but see like chipers when she do stupid way,

if she love u,she always support u,help u for money management and support to life much better no cheating

1:100 hor... tell me where to find girl like that i go now

[Ttit]

Prostitute aka Positive attitude;)

lol, very positive ah :D

[Ttit]

Alphard suspension tester too :D

lol:D:D:D siao

[Chillbill]

breakup led me to geylang. a void to fill. Used to pampering my gf. Replaced with WLs. Perhaps I m lucky. The ones I know never demanded. One back in China and wants to start a small biz. Not all are gold diggers. Amitabha.

[Chrisk456]

breakup led me to geylang. a void to fill. Used to pampering my gf. Replaced with WLs. Perhaps I m lucky. The ones I know never demanded. One back in China and wants to start a small biz. Not all are gold diggers. Amitabha.

Yes, not all of them wants money. Some of them just want to settle in their sweet little village. Hardship of life make them work in an industry like this. The lady Ive known stopped her tour while all her friends signed up for the second leg to Dubai/Taiwan and yet she's not asking for so big. Just treats her nicely and gives what she needs.

[jackjackyyy]

I have moved on.
End of the day, just have to control myself and stop going back to find her. Block and delete her on WeChat.
Now I will just visit random girls even at the same house even if she’s there. Can’t be bothered, when she see me she also just pretend never see me.

To most of them ( be it GL, nightclub, ktv or flower joint ) we are just a customer going to arcade game ( like the 80s, 90s ), they just waiting to see who willing to put more tokens (apart from the visit ).

When I was in Macau 10 years ago, I found the lady massaging me very familiar. Finally I remembered, after chit chat, she mentioned already married, come from zhuhai to Macau to work, surprisingly she still willing to meet me for sex 8 hours and quoted me price.

That said, still possible to meet ladies who are genuine , I have friend who met a lady at flower joint who is genuine.

But few and far between, more likely to get burnt than true love.
Best find someone in your day to day life.
Understand the short term difficulty but it will be over sooner than you thought.

My own experiences, don’t start what you can’t handle both emotionally and financially.

Hope it’s entirely over , no more lingering thoughts

[bradpitt968]

One of my friend Did that bro....they happily taking care of their twins with his gorgeous ex-Viet WL. Its all fate which I truly believe, respect and mutual understanding. And they are making money and happily ever after, thats what most important. And yes he did settle down there, working in Saigon with his wife and kids with them, but never forget to go back to his wife's hometown up north during winter, which they saved up and built a holiday bungalow. Not expensive, about $240,000 for a 210sqm stand alone bungalow in Thai Nguyen province (50 min northeast of Hanoi). Very beautiful wife and rosy cheeks twin son and daughter. And who said ex WLs cannot come back? As long as they are armed with marriage certs and better still pay income taxes, any government welcome them back.

This guy is rather intelligent and fast learner (from an elite institiuition in Sg and my same year schoolmate). An architect by profession and able to pick up passable Vietnamese language within 5-6mths besides his damn fluent Thai, Japanese, Chinese, Hokkien, Cantonese, Laotian, Russian and English. And luckily for him, his wife speaks passable Chinese eversince she worked in Sg for only close to 1 year. He did a few beautiful hotel projects in Vietnam whule working in an int'l archi firm in Saigon and he is indeed doing pretty well. He is indeed daring to venture out and probably because the power of love. Its all about fate, with determination and true love. And luckily for his wife, she is an orphan with a sec 1 educational level, so no commitment in terms of supporting her too much. Just earn and saving up and guo ri zi for their future. Both couple pretty much entreprenuer. Hardworking and hilarious couple...really do envy them. Wishing them well always. A相夫教子 plus a manicure and pedicure shop owner beautiful wife at the moment with big sparkling eyes and high nose bridge + An intelligent and respectable and ok looking sg hubby. 10+ years apart in terms of ages.

Nothing is impossible in this world, its ai zhor mai zhor nia, ai love truly mai love truly nia....

Wish you well, my 'emigrated' Sg-Viet friend.

Cheers!
Walao

I believe : When there is a will, there is a way.

Most important is both party unite together to make things work. If only one side is doing all the "trying", then it will be tought.

Your friend is very lucky. For 2 person to be together from different background and country is really challenging. But if got enough money, call can settle lah. The problem is if not enough money.

[Gavril]

Is it normal for GL biznus to be bad during this Christmas period?

Suddenly ytd xmas got texts from 2 WL that i frequent...
one tell me ytd no customer while the other one ask me when i gonna visit again (but it's not even 2weeks since i RTF)

[galaxyass]

Is it normal for GL biznus to be bad during this Christmas period?

Suddenly ytd xmas got texts from 2 WL that i frequent...
one tell me ytd no customer while the other one ask me when i gonna visit again (but it's not even 2weeks since i RTF)
Base on the topic of this thread, there are two conclusion.

1) She love you, miss you and want to see you during special holidays. She dont msg u during normal days bcos there are many customer and she dont want u to wait and waste ur time.

2) She is only after your money, during normal days when there are many customers and you are not in her list of choices, when she need to boost her business, you will then come into the picture.

[Gavril]

Base on the topic of this thread, there are two conclusion.

1) She love you, miss you and want to see you during special holidays. She dont msg u during normal days bcos there are many customer and she dont want u to wait and waste ur time.

2) She is only after your money, during normal days when there are many customers and you are not in her list of choices, when she need to boost her business, you will then come into the picture.

yaa quite sian when need to use big head to rationalize...
Cos to me I tot holiday period = their biz shld be good... end up both (from diff hse) tell me December period recently nowadays low traffic. I got also try to think abit &;tell them maybe holiday season all travel overseas.. but was still quite shocked to hear one of them say totally no biz yesterday (which is abit sus to me)...

Hence wanted some secondary confirmation if the traffic at GL really got so jialat or not...
Trying to sieve out if they lying to me + playing KC trap

[ShaneTan]

yaa quite sian when need to use big head to rationalize...
Cos to me I tot holiday period = their biz shld be good... end up both (from diff hse) tell me December period recently nowadays low traffic. I got also try to think abit &;tell them maybe holiday season all travel overseas.. but was still quite shocked to hear one of them say totally no biz yesterday (which is abit sus to me)...

Hence wanted some secondary confirmation if the traffic at GL really got so jialat or not...
Trying to sieve out if they lying to me + playing KC trap

i cant confirm if they trying to kc you but I can confirm that business has been slow for the PRC houses as some of the PRC WLs have also told me the same these 1 or 2 weeks. They mentioned that they might have only 1 or 2 customers per day recently

[WhiteMilk]

i cant confirm if they trying to kc you but I can confirm that business has been slow for the PRC houses as some of the PRC WLs have also told me the same these 1 or 2 weeks. They mentioned that they might have only 1 or 2 customers per day recently

It's actually easy to have business booming again

Just bring back the looks and service standards from 2008-2012. Where the gals from $150 have the looks of social media influencers with hundreds thousands and even millions followers.

Then the guaranteed services provided are: proper whole body catbath front and back, proper Frenching, AR, and allow 2 shots upon request, and BBBJ (reportedly nowadays its always CBJ now)

For sure business will be booming

Either that, or bring in Ukrainian/Russian or at least Kazakh and Uzbek gals to GL

[fxty1989]

It's actually easy to have business booming again

Just bring back the looks and service standards from 2008-2012. Where the gals from $150 have the looks of social media influencers with hundreds thousands and even millions followers.

Then the guaranteed services provided are: proper whole body catbath front and back, proper Frenching, AR, and allow 2 shots upon request, and BBBJ (reportedly nowadays its always CBJ now)

For sure business will be booming

Either that, or bring in Ukrainian/Russian or at least Kazakh and Uzbek gals to GL

Times has changed, nowadays gals with good looking in China got better ways to earn more money. There is no way they would come to SG working in GL in such a pricing.

[HalimahYakult]

Is it normal for GL biznus to be bad during this Christmas period?

YES :cool:

[WhiteMilk]

Times has changed, nowadays gals with good looking in China got better ways to earn more money. There is no way they would come to SG working in GL in such a pricing.

Like i mentioned many times here already, the moment Smartphones and social media exploded, that's when the cheonging industry standards plummeted. Not only in GL but all over the world

YES :cool:

Well doesn't that mean that it is MUCH easier to get the angpais during this period without needing to queue for so long?

[fxty1989]

Like i mentioned many times here already, the moment Smartphones and social media exploded, that's when the cheonging industry standards plummeted. Not only in GL but all over the world



Well doesn't that mean that it is MUCH easier to get the angpais during this period without needing to queue for so long?

Yup, actually the impact caused by the social network for oversea market is even more then SG local market, considering government not allowing GL doing online marketing. But still, you can see so many leaking videos on GL online everywhere…

[WhiteMilk]

Yup, actually the impact caused by the social network for oversea market is even more then SG local market, considering government not allowing GL doing online marketing. But still, you can see so many leaking videos on GL online everywhere…

Wow really? Like real full on bonking vids from GL? Where can those videos be found? I have only seen only fake videos claiming to be from GL but when I saw the vids clearly confirm those aren't from GL

In GL at least based on ny experience the WLs are very strict in terms of taking pictures let alone allowing u to record videos

I have also seen posts by bros here about incidents in the houses where some naughty bros attempted to record videos and they got into massive trouble