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Bro, I have to agree is a day light robbery. Still, my answer to this is the affordability that my friend and myself can go for.. If you demand 10K SGD, of course I cant afford to give at all. This is within the amount we can poke out and we give in to it.. Life still carry on. Sometime you take more, others have less.. We learnt here and FR to remind the others to be careful. Do you agree??

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my point is even IF someone demand and u can afford, you should ONLY pay what is fair, even if ALL her tourist customers pay 700k but the few local ones or those in the know pay 300k, after the black facess she will still accept 300k..if u plan to woo her or keep her happy then sure maybe reason to pay more, but if nevr plan return visit who cares how black her face...just pay thr right fair price and WALK..i do that even when i go back to same shop...people respect you if u know right price even if they benefit from carrots more, but they will neveR respect a easy carrot..whats more is they think you weak if you know u being robbed but u nevertheless allow them ro rob u...these is the reason why i pay 150-200k for a bbbj at a hot toc, 120k for a cafe om bbbj and around 300k for a massage with a bbbj,,when i wnet north even tho they KNEW i wasnt local i still bargain 200k for a 250k fuck in a local brothel...i was paying 150-300k MAX for young pretty girls for FUCK...same as when i gey lang and i go to cat 50 house and they demand 100..i just walkaway..i come back later and i say i know this house that house is a cat 50, that is a cat 100, that other is cat150...just because in aust the rate is 250aud a hour and i can afford 100 for a cat 50 or cat80..doenst meani still willingly pay what they demand

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Went to liberty hotel yesterday for the massage and spa. They have showers, steam room for use and entry ticket is 1 hour body + 30 minutes foot massage is 200k.
First u shower yourself, sort of like the sauna in E2 at KL. Then proceed to th foot massage area where about 10 recliners are cramped into one room. Girls wear black mini skirt and tight white tops making their Boobs pop out. Good view. After foot massage starts the body massage. Good energy from my masseuse her name is Phongthau.
After about 40 minutes popped GQ and asked for 500k but bargained down to 300k. She's 22 SYT so I asked her if can do LT or overnight at my hotel but she said she can't. Offered to give her friend's contact to me, but 300 USD so I said no (I am no carrot head ).

All in all:
Damage: massage 275k
Hj: 300k
Fj: n/a
Foot masseuse tip: 100k
Rthj : maybe if I'm staying nearby

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I will be going HCM in 1st May for holiday with my friends. I was told district one is where most of the tourist stay and have fun.

any recommendation for hotel and place of interest for guys :D

Thanks

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Any bro around at HCM from 15-18?

I will be there on a solo trip. would like to find someone who is more familiar with the place.

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May,June,July,August or 15th-18th of every month :p

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so let me get this straight..you want to meet someone who knows where to have fun..take you to good places help u find cheap good fucks etc etc right..and how are you contributing to this partnership or are u just dead weight, just follow and complain if something is to your dislike, and do you insist on getting first choice of girls or how would the rules of engagement suit you

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Hi, i am a newbie in hcm and will be solo from 25 - 27 april. please pm me if any bro want a buddy to cheong aroung :)

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I made my trip as planned in the first week of April. My base is Binh Duong, outside of HCMC, so that is probably too far for most of the newbies on here. However, it is an interesting place as far as finding a good bbbj.

I went back to one of the massage parlours I had been to before and noticed that the ticket price had increased from 70k to 80k. The girl that arrived spoke English, so that was a big plus. She was quite cute, and had nice boobs (36C perhaps), which for me is a plus on an Asian woman. We went upstairs and into a room with bath. She told me to undress and get into the bath, where she proceeded to wash me all over. Once out of the bath, she dried me and led me to the massage table. Then she gave me a massage (sort of). I asked her how much for a bj and she told me 1 million Dong. Naturally I laughed. Of course the fact that I am white skinned and Western (or Ang Moh or SWM, as so many on here would call me) put the price up. After some haggling, we agreed on 200k for a bbbj. I suppose I could have tried to reduce the price, but a few dollars less wouldn't make any difference to me, and it would to her.

She was good. Her action was excellent and she pulled down her top and took off her panties. I was able to fingerfuck her and kiss her nipples. She gave an excellent bj and I CIM. After, I told her that I would come back again and ask for her. She told me her name - Tung - and I knew that she didn't really believe that I would be back. However, this Xông hơi (massage parlour) is only a short walk from where I stay, so it is very convenient. In total I went back 6 times during my stay. The mamasan got to know me and knew who I wanted. Tung gave a great GFE and was not at all slow to strip off completely after a few days. We dispensed with the shower, as I don't think that it is as good as the shower where I stay :) Anyway, every day she really gave me an excellent bbbj and was sad to see me go (I know - she was sad to see the ATM machine go) but she really was a nice girl. She is 25 years old and has a kid in the province somewhere, so she is working to support him.

I did ask her about a FJ and she first asked for 1 million, but came down to 500k. I offered 400k to see if she would accept, but she wouldn't. Anyway, I liked her action in the bbbj, so I didn't try to haggle more.

I did try a few other places, so next report will describe them.

Oh, and if anyone wants to tell me that I paid too much and that he has managed to get FJ for half of what I paid, let me just say that being able to stroll 5 minutes to where Tung works, get my rocks off, and leave 30 minutes later is worth a lot more to me than spending several hours scouring the bia om, hot tocs, KTV and Xông hơi in order to save 100k Dong (US $5), which is 20% of what I earn per hour in my normal job.

Joe

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no paying 200k for a bbbj in a massaage is pretty much local prices so you did well,,however earning 25usd a hr isnt much to be proud of

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Mutant Chicken, you are right. $25 per hour is chickenfeed. My math went wrong - actually, I earn $100 per hour, so that should have read 5%. :rolleyes:

Joe

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joe, just coming out of uni as a grad lawyer my charge out rate was 150/hr and ur simple arithmetic error clearly indicates u not a engineer or anything that requires mathematics...hoever well done for being able to read and know the proper prices..which is more than 90% of fellow mongers/cheongster...that and having the balls to go to places that are unreported...maybe its just me but saying u couldnt be assed to walk around to save yourself 5 bucks sounds better than ostentatiously telling us you make 100usd/hr and so 5 bucks is chickenfeed to u, but doing it in a big FAIL attempt. HAHAH

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Not sure what this is supposed to mean

Mutant Chicken, I wasn't trying to be ostentatious; merely reporting what I earn 7 days a week/10 hours a day. I work hard for my money and can't be bothered to try to skimp on a few dollars, as if I was some kind of Scrooge. And you are right, I'm not an engineer, but I was interested to see that a lawyer in Vietnam can earn $150 per hour. Multiply that up by 40 hours per week and it looks like you are on more than $300k per year. That would be good in USA, but in Vietnam.....:eek:

Anyway, this is not a pissing contest, it was just my attempt to open people's eyes to the fact that there is a lot more out there than D1 or the well-worn paths of sitting in KTVs or bia oms and spending too much in order NOT to be able to communicate with the girls AND paying for the privilege.

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Dedicated to Bro H88 and Sail......

Return of the kings.
Finally we have a chance to visit the first HCM Bia Om I went to back in June 2013 thanks to a newbie whom want to "open his eye" in HCM.

We set off after a heavy dinner with booster food like"black chicken". Total 4 bros set off after I called the mamasan that there are some horny men "desperately seeking Susan".

Upon arriving the Bia Om; we were usher into a room that can easily fill in 20 person, so I know the scene is set for some action........

Mamasan arrive upon seeing me; gave me a big hugged like long lost family. (I know this mamasan in June 2013 and stay in contact for 10 months) First thing mamasan did is show me her tits..... and without a second thought I go down and suck her nipple..... she was in shocked as she never expect to be suck............

Next thing I did id let my hand move downward for her bush; and she instantaneously pull down her underwear and show me her newly trimmed pussy. (all this is done right in front of 3 bros with some jaw dropping.)

Dethrone of the queen.
Those whom follow my story back in June 2013 will remember I call a WL "my queen". She was there in my room......
She was smiling at me thinking her seat in the room is a sure thing. I politely smile at her; walk over to her and squeeze her nipple and politely usher her out of the room. (her expression changes from full of confident; to a strange bitter look that my limited vocabulary will not be able to describe.):p

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Underworld- World without underwear.
Told mamasan my new friend want 2 pretty gals while 3 other bros each took one..... (after some quick catwalk the gals are ready...)

I got a very playful gal and when she sit with me she show me her pink nipple straight away.....I went in and suck her nipple and she return favour trying to strip my trouser and gave me a "pretentious BJ". I straight away pull her to the toilet and let her proceed with the BBBJ. After 4-5 quick pumping bbbj.... I stop while both of us keep laughing in the toilet. (now that is some funny experience which I never had before)

She help me wear back my pant and return to our seat while the other wonder what have just happened .....

I proceed to kiss her again back on our seat and I try to snatch her underwear. With my 20 years of "underwear removing skill" experience, I got her underwear off within split second and stuff it into my pocket.

My gal practically sat thru the whole KTV session without wearing underwear and was wet as she can ever be.

Next I proceed to tell H88 gal to get her underwear off.... I told her she can do it herself; or I can come over and help her..... she straight away got her underwear off reluctantly.....

The session when on for around 2 hours+ and we choose a gal each and leave the Bia om.

The rest of the story are similar to what "usually happened" in KTV so no point of repeating ... it is same old sing songs, uong bia, playing dice....

Conclusion: Anything is possible in HCM. Just try to make it happened.

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you are just too kind..i hereby annouced you had graduated...now master level of hcm local bia om...haha....:)

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ops.. sorry.. i just changed my trip.. is 14-17 May 2014... :p

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Hmm... actually just to see if anyone here going ktv or have some nightlife and i can tag along. Of course the cost is split or I can pay slightly higher but please don't treat me as carrot head.. haha.. I am sure different people have different preference and I am not that kind of person that will anyhow complain:) I just think that it will be more fun if there is someone who speak viet.. :cool: It's also more fun to drink together than drinking alone.

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Just some views , why would any one waste their time on some dumb fuck to entertain him , which thinks it is more fun despite knowing that it is a whole world of difference between one person which can speak and can't speak. Won't complain already but say don't treat me like a carrot!!? haha i wonder at times , are people getting dumber or is this the acts of clones trying to post as newbies? When is it more fun to drink with a total stranger?

As our local resident says , we non locals would probably be paying at least 20% more than whatever the locals are paying and much much more if you don't speak. By telling others , please don't treat me like carrot head , you are already telling the whole world you are one. First , you not know how much is the standard , second those which will pm you would be the ones with ulterior motives and you would probably end up paying anyway.

Don't be stupid la , first time go out , just pay to enjoy yourself , most important is be happy. Forget the share or pay slightly more , most people boh kiam eng one , why the need to add another dead weight? My suggestion just be prepared to pay in full for everything at least for the first time. People are offering their time and effort , the least you can do is foot for everything. It is a friendly gesture and basic manners. If people offer to help pay some after that it is a bonus, else just suck it up. Facts of life , there is no free lunch in this world.

Some times , if cost is a factor when you go out then it is best to stay where you are comfortable at , else best to stick at home.

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this post is a bit harsh but im afraid i have to agree..let me post this here so i dont have to repeat myself via pm by the guys who pm me.
I speak for myself but im sure plenty of otherguys also feel same way..we live here, some work some are semi retired, but nevertheless we all have hobbies or distractions, im partly vietnamese, i speak vietnnamese pretty well and i have vietnamese associates all of them women, so pretty much on ANY given day i can have a female date, and at any given hour via massages/hot toc/cafe om/brothels/bia om/ktv i can have a female bed companion. Because i dont have a singaporean connection i really dont have any culteral connections to most u guys, so the idea that i can meet u guys and appease any longings for home/sillypore is non existant, i def dont miss the stupid and retarded accent that is singlish and if i NEVER hear another lah, then good riddence. So here is my options i can stay at home relax or i can go at anytime any area and get myself a hj/bj/fj, or i can go meet a preety girl for a date, OR i can meet u guys, deal with your lateness, inability to find a place, the later guide the taxi to xyz, wait for u to make ur choices instruct the girls to treat u well, make sure u know the pricing so they dont rip u off, and even let u have first choice etc etc etc...and so please tell me where as the romans say "cui bono" or who gains?

I tell u a story abt when i first came her, i met up with a bunch of fellow chengster, we didnt know each other, one guy was a malaysian, he had read that he should tip the mommy 300k, at that time the tip was 100k for the girls...then he just tipped the mommy unilaterally but then asked us later to repay him, further these guys didnt know how to play in the bia om, so in the end i couldnt do anything as my girl kept on telling me how decent my "friend" were....they drank like pigs whereas im non drinker, and after that when the bill was split it was split evenly, and then girl tips i wnated to tip 100k, but as all teh otehr tipped 300k i couldnt, finally because i was the organiser i couldnt verywell have first choice, end night it cost me more, had less fun, and didnt even have the girl i wanted...again cui bono

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Ok. I don't wish to be a dead weight. And I take everyone senior comment here openly. Since everyone is suggesting me to expore first. I will do as u all suggested.

Just chill okay? Maybe my thinking is a little wrong but I mean no harm or is not trying to rip or enjoy any free ride here. :)

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Just enjoy your trip, don't think or worry so much. Pay what you are comfortable. No one on earth will cane your ass if you pay too much or little. :D

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well not literally maybe at most some tongue lashing abt being carrot head...suppose the question do u spend money on people who will spend time and effort showing u a good and fair time and u spend that money to thank and compensate them for their time and then use that knowledge for your own benefit in future, or do u let urself be carrot by WL who just think your stupid and after that you will have zero information for the future. One is spend money as a investmnet, the other is to be a carrot.

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Mongers go out for entertainment alone or with friends. Of cause to have a guide is good but how do you determine the rates of a guide or so called the market rates? Some guides accept a meal, some wants per day/hour USD100... To pay a so called guide for USD 100, guess most mongers rather carrot by gers.

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thats its isnt everyone has a measure of what they think is value...no one recommend or force anything on anyone else...my comment was purely to give a explaination as to why or if he gets a reaction to his post..definately some one who is planninmg to come to vn regularly is going to see value as oppose to someone who come once, or someone who wanst to just fuck as oppose to someone who wants to try to fish...like wise the guide who is unemployed who would see his time worth a meal would be different from a guide who in his normal job is paid 100/hr, he would obviously value his time differently...end of the day the "market" rate only applicable to tours guuide going to co chi or floating market etc etc...in this case, teh comparison is more like this u cna go to lor xx and get indo for fuck 30sing, or u can get a "model" for 1000, question is whether she is a real model or a fake on, and whether, the customer valies that "added" quality be it a virgin/uni student etc etc

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Actually u r correct.. it's really based on individual. I can understand how u feel based on the scenario u gave earlier. U tried to be helpful yet u are at the losing end. Worst, u pay more but enjoy less.

Well, I guess i had unknowingly stirred some debate here.. :cool:

Maybe anyone free during my stay want to have a coffee? My treat. :D:D:D

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I agree that it's really based on individual. I can understand how u feel when u are trying to be helping yet u end up enjoy less. Worst, you pay more that what u are paying usually.

Seems like I had unknowingly stirred some debate here.. I apologise for that.

Maybe if there is anyone free during my stay there we can meet for coffee? My treat. I know it's not very expensive but just want to know more people around. :rolleyes:

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I agree that it's really based on individual. I can understand how u feel when u are trying to be helping yet u end up enjoy less. Worst, you pay more that what u are paying usually.

Seems like I had unknowingly stirred some debate here.. I apologise for that.

Maybe if there is anyone free during my stay there we can meet for coffee? My treat. I know it's not very expensive but just want to know more people around. :rolleyes:

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well,i think different people has different views on this issue.

let me share with u some recent cases.

i have been providing guide n hotel booking service for a period of time.

here comes a group of 4 where 3 are 1st timers n 1 has been to Hcmc for 3 times.the so called "old bird" of the group is reluctant on getting a guide for 100 Usd per day as he said that he knows the places to visit.but the other 3 convince him to try it out first for the 1st day as it's being recommended by a friend that engage the service before.

the group arrive at hotel and the taxi fare is 380k...the grp call the guide as the guide was waiting for them at the hotel lobby as the hotel booking is also arranged.went out talk to the driver,give the driver 180k,unload everything n check into hotel..

if its a tourist who cant speak Vietnamese...will u argue with driver or just pay 380k n solve the matter?

having debrief with the grp n the old bird commented that he know places for massage where the gals shower for u,massage n perform HJ..the entrance is 600k and tips 500k...brought the grp for massage where the gal also shower for u but perform BBBJ...entrance is 500k n tips is 500k...although its only cheaper by 100k per pax but difference of HJ or BBBJ.

proceed to KTV and old bird commented he went to a few before..gals were ok and charges for LT is 200 Usd.brought the grp to another KTV and the old bird commented that gal's quality is on a par with the previous KTV he went..he jio the gal for LT and the gal quote 200 Usd..all the other 3 try out and was quote 200 Usd as well.guide came in to negotiate with the gals n settle for 3 mills Vnd which is abt 140 Usd.

on the way back to the hotel and the old bird requested the service of the guide for the other 2 days.

on actual fact,the grp pays the guide 100 Usd,also plus entrance and expenses of the guide at various places,the total is less then 200 Usd..but the grp saves 200k on taxi,400k on massage with better service and 240 Usd on gal's LT..furthermore,they get to know many places to chiong n the prices.

a guy book hotel direct from Agoda bcos its cheaper by 5 Usd of the hotel rake price instead of going through the agent again knowing that the hotel is girl friendly and allows bringing back of female guest.the guy was stop by the counter when he bring back his female guest at night..the conter staff demanded the guy to pay 10 Usd if he wants to bring his female guest back,explaining that its meant for opening a "spare room"..the guy say he did bring back female guest before but the counter staff disallow n say its new policy..the guy eventually call the agent and explain the situation n saying that bcos its a very last min decide trip hence never ask the agent to book..saying paiseh and will go through the agent the next time..well,the agent knows very well that the guy book through Agoda bcos its cheaper by 5 Usd n not due to last min trip..but did talk to the hotel staff through phone n solve the issue out of good will.

honestly speaking..99% of 3 stars and below hotels do allow bringing back of female guest..but..its the staffs that want to earn that extra money..well,cases like these are little..usually hotel staff will not restrict,but what if u are the unlucky one??

getting a guide or agent service a not depends on varies...its just like some prefers A cup to C cup...:D