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Haha... Reason I never engage MC is that my this trip is not a sex trip.Was here to sightsee. Sex is optional. I am backpacking. Next destination is Cambodia then thailand.. Anyway if MC is free can meet for coffee in the afternoon. Interested to know what is it liked to retire here. But I am still young:p

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However your FRs are always very interesting. :D

Yes, H88 is an amazing teacher and I also find it very interesting to listen to his adventures. Beyond the pretty faces, I am intrigued by different peoples and their cultures. This is one of the few countries that has defeated the US in war and it is not by accident. Also, although our income is greater, are we happier?

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i give 500k tips as well but having the service of the gal showering for me before massage and with a bbbj

but well,most important is u enjoy urself...if u enjoy and feel worth while then nothing wrong lol

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Haha I'm just 39 yrs old...and no I have had a gut full of meeting and touring newbies even when I charged token amount of 20usd hr or 100/day I even have one guy ang mo say I cheating people because avg salary in VN only 3-4mill month so if I charge 2mill one day then im crook...i prefer just "work" extra 1-2hrs and make that 100 usd than take people around...thanks but no thanks

anyway is it just me or do other people also find this bugger hilarious, look at his posts and the type of questions he has asked, i would say he is about mid late 20's, prob never traveled much except maybe to JB, not much of a income to allow a lavish lifestyle, the only advantage he thinks he has is his relative youth, but he hasnt got the wisdom to realise that youth without experience, money or looks is just a empty hole. I would go so far as to say he either a skinny split pin or a chubby guy with very little skills interacting with her opposite sex, and after 6 yrs lurking on sammyboy he finally has saved up enough money to go on this little adventure, and to get away from his parents as he probably is still living at home with. So effectively he has come online a begger with little cash and little information and little experience, but he has so little social skills to understand that "I can meet him for coffee in teh afternoon" comes across like he is a VIP, and that he is doing me a service by agreeing to meet me. Sorry mate, whilst you maybe be interested to know what its like to retire at 39yr old here in vn, i really have no interest in knowing what its like to be YOU.
Reminds me of a recent young fellow i met, 27, seems to think he knows it all, but in reality didnt even know how to use a condom properly and when it burst during sex at the brothels, a Durex branded condom, he was freaking out, he was about to cry from the stress...hahah "young" boys nowadays, god bless them they make me laugh.

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I give only 300k tip for girl bath and bbbj and if shit bbbj I give only 250k haha

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Dun care abt the Ang Mo what's they say.

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As I posted previously, my first trip to Vietnam before Chinese New Year. Went to D* N* Hotel for spa and massage. The girl also ask 500k for HJ only. I nego down to 200k. She won't do BJ or FJ. I think 500k is standard at D1 for foreigner like us who don't speak tieng viet. However, I went for the full treatment, back scrub (by a guy), foot massage (by another guy). All extra tips of 100k each + small tips for change room dude. Enjoyed thoroughly for 2 hours. I explored HCMC by myself using H88's guide for fun places and indicative prices. I am talking about District 1 price here. There are lots of Koreans & Japs around D1 who would just pay. Their culture do not tends to bargain. The girls knows.

Recent trip following seniors. They nego the fun for me, I just paid what they told me to pay. I volunteered to pay for food, taxi, kopi etc. Sometime senior let me pay, sometimes they pay. Is like going out with friends having a few drinks. We all take turns, it is only fair what. I forever grateful to the seniors who took me under their wings.

I also ask senior how much I need to bring to vn. I brought a bit more. Changed all at Ben Than market. We all come out to play and enjoy. Why so stingy? Like that might as well go Desker Road. Save on plane tickets, hotel.

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Aiya, if paying or not paying for guide also pay about the same amount, why not just pay the Pipier for the guided tour.

Simple , by paying one local which insist on his daily 100usd wage (which I think is fair) and you are able to go in a group I presume the cost is divided amongst the group which is still cheaper than going around yourself.

That said, if I went alone, I would probably spent much more than 15million for a 5day trip simply because I prefer to have someone to hug at night, and if I can't speak and don't have the looks so i am only left with one choice probably only can pay.

As for h88 I have the luck of knowing him in SG and I am very grateful that he is able to bring me around, he has taught me alot but due to the lack of intelligence I have failed to live up to his expectations about learning the language despite being there for a few years. I do apologize for my lousy language skills and stupidity. The last trip I was there, I have gotten a 20 yr syt with probably looks of around 6 -6.5 for a bbj and fj and I was provided a full bbj service while showering you before moving to a bed which probably didn't change its sheets for weeks to finish for the price of 350k.

For some they would think getting a bbj and fj at the lowest possible price for the highest quality possible is their primary concern, I do agree if one is working on a tight budget. It is actually more worthwhile if your sole purpose there is to cum the max amount of times for the lowest of prices.

But there are people like me which are probably going there to relax myself and to enjoy myself at my own pace which prefer to do other stuff like eating and just simply observing what others do when they chiong, I am not one which can hold my drinks neither am I very into maxing my money per fuck, to many here they will think it is a waste of money for me to go there and do "nothing" but I believe that is a choice, if I want I can always bring the girl back or just join them for a fj . To me releasing my load isn't the priority though it is a good option to have but to me most importantly is at the end of day getting what you want. If your purpose is achieved I would probably think the money is well spent regardless the amount.

Love the food in Vietnam, I can't eat much but I will try to fill myself the best way I can and I am contented. Have to fuck around is additional bonus.

I have posted my cost on one of the links feel free to look at if for easy reference, I might be paying more than the locals but these would probably be the prices one will have to pay if they do know their way around.

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Bro alien zzz stop making a fool of yrself

The bro MC is out to make a living ; not out to make friends

Be alert bro alienzzz

Every new adventure comes with a price to learning

The good you keep the bad experiences you learn not
to make again - this work out to every places you go too
You can't win all the times

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thats not entirely true , i dont see how i can make living on 100usd day, my mortgage repayments alone is 10k usd/month...for me its to screen out stingy cheap people, and sure if i can make a little extra pocket money who will complain.

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My reading of the recent protests and factories burning is that their gov allowed these to happen. China also let the family of plane passengers to march and protest. They allow this to let people vent some anger and served their political agenda. I have no doubt anyone planning anti-gov would be locked up before they even stepped out of the house.

Therefore I think things will settle down. Otherwise unrest is bad for business, tourists will shy away. Look at Thailand.

If tourist number dropped, cheonging price likely will drop. Our die-hard bothers here will benefit.:D

If things turned really nasty, Batam is nearby only. :D

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i agree, only the power brokers will benefit from this, the poor people will suffer, but in terms of cheong price dropping i doubt its as WL dont follow the laws of economics, ie in times of low demand, and constant supply then natural price will drop, instead WL follow this rational, less demand so to compensate for lower volume she will increase price to compensate hahah..thats why its better to stick with local places as it will stay stable economicwise..heard from some malasian chinese/sing chinese who work in vsip binh duong complain abt negative reception, but for me stay in viet local areas they ask me if i chinese i say im to good looking to be chinese hahah

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back to home after 4 d 3 n at hcmc.. nothing to shout about..bring 3 newbie to hcmc to explore..too find those service that dont have in malaysia..Le Duyen 4.. ticket 250k dong.. tips 300k dong.. benny at 110 DBP street.. counter gimme 1 piece notes write ticket 150k plus tips 200k total 350k..meet bro phighter and he was kindly enough to bring us to KTV at D.5.. mostly girls speak chinese..tips 300k for girls.. my friend was offerd USD 150 for LT but didnt take it..Sapporo bia big can for 100k and small for 50k ..since its late..we reach about 10:30 somehintg..mummy give us discount 20% for the big can sapporo bia..manage to go massage at one of my wechat friend,local girls who open massage.. no hanky panky.. at 120 le loi..lotus massage..260k include tips.. for foot massage,body massage and hot stone for 90 munites....but dont have those privacy room..just 3 side of curtians and each side got almost 4-5 massage chair..pretty cheap thu..:)..i found out here many girls now use wechat to offer service plus massage for USD50..LT for USD 120..never had intention to try them.. haha then at saturday evening went to New World hotel there becasue every sat they got pool party until end of this MAY.. entrance is 100k and if buy on9 can get 90k dong..inside got sell sapporo bia..jack daniels w/coke..fanny ice cream..tit-bits..watching girls in bikini playing water..get to know some local people..listen to music..a good way to spend some time in hot sat evening.. this party left only 3 times(only on SATURDAY) before closing for raining season..went to bar91 ..drinks 2~3 usd for 1 can of "333" bia..girls tips 300k...mummy said if want girl..pay bar fine USD25 and LT for 120..:eek: wait until mummy left.. i direct offer the girls if they dont have customer till 1am.. i ask her to call me..she ask for 100USD can LT..why not? i can save USD45 ..:D but that day i only ST with her coz im too tired..and i give her 1.2m for ST.. btw any one love shusi..can try Ichiban Sushi..those are the top rated food at Tripadvisor in hcmc so far..the sushi really nice... freash..and must try the famous 2 dishes named something like "Mr.Van" and "korean" something like that..and not forget the oyester named Honeymooner..well that's for now..same old place.. jsut i didnt try to visit D.7 coz i see last post there are few places closed.. save my time travel there.. ok Adios!! btw thatks for the info here..hope i can gain more info for my next trip again!! :rolleyes:

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Well, if u don't wan to meet that's fine. I am not saying u am a VIP or whatsoever. I am not be earning as much as u. Just a normal working adult salary. And YES I am still living with my parents. So? 90% of sg male single are staying with their parents.This is my first time in hcm but I have being to pattaya before. I know the way they operate is slightly different. I know most people here have more experience than me. Like u mentioned, this is a forum for sharing of info. People has the rights to say or ask any question they like. Anyway, I am here to learn (not because of anything but I feel that everyone got their part of life and experience to learn from.)I am sure I know something which u do not know. Can be work or past experience,but u might not be interested to know. That doesn't means I am not interested as well. Since u r not interested to share then ok lor..

I know ur charge is to keep those cheapskate out. I did not 'engaged' your service as my schedule is really ad hoc. I am not a cheapskate and I think 100 USD is reasonable. That's the pay of a working adult. Not to say u r earning more than that. But I Dun have a whole day to spare. I have some schedule for a day and half day or the next day need to wake up early. I will definitely asked for ur help if I were here with more days to spare.

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I wish their business drop like hell; hence the gals will be more willing and places will be cheap like hell.:D

Always look on the bright side of live.

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Yes please , more

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Brothers in HCM please update the situation as often as possible.

This information is critical; so fellow brothers know what to expect when step into HCM.

Please avoid dressing up like "Ah Thiong".

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I am just curious why will someone pay 500k VND for a hj? Maybe I am a weird 1.

If I want massage, I will go to a proper massage. If I want to release, I will go for a full service or at least a bj. If I want HJ, I will watch Jap AV and pcc. Why spend so much money, just for a lousy massage and another hand to pcc? :rolleyes:

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haha...i wonder too...hj is a no no for me...not keen...might as well do myself...:)

I can have a horny ktv gal to come to hotel room for a ST at 700k in the afternoon or late nites...so wonder why need to pay 500k for hj at a massage parlour..:)

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you did not spent all...in fact you brought home plenty of DONGs...millionaires...:)

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we traveled each and every highway...we did it "OUR WAY"...:)

yes, good experience we found a full service, bbbj, fj for 350k in Hue City...think can get it down to 200k if regular...:)

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Try to avoid district 5 at the moment

even Vietnamese Chinese are being reprimand when they speak Chinese..

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i used to bring newbies for free in the past...then i found out that i being taken for a ride..why do i need to go to those chiong places often and pay my share just to please newbies...all prices nego properly...and all services guaranteed...some newbies are not appreciative of what I did and some took it that for sure I will bring them whenever they want to be in hcm...plenty of ugly things had happened in the past and not kind words throwing around...so easy for me...stop bringing newbies...just bring friends who can meet my schedule and are generally have not much expectation...:)

i had ignored many time wasters and ppl who are not kind...ppl with ulterior motives...rather to be alone than to waste time on ppl I dun feel like meeting in hcm...:)

as for FRIENDS...i made sure friends are well taken care and fully sextisfied to whatever requests..$$$$$ notched services and value for money...even when we travel out...all arrangements taken care and no time wasted...all according to plan...even if we change plans we also discuss with full agreement...most important we get to visit and experience what we planned to see...:)

a friend who recently asked me how much to bring for 3D2N...he asked me if he budget USD 1k is it enough...I replied him that sun******** posted recently and went on 5D4N only spent around SGD 1k or less...he virtually has gals to hug every nite till early morning...read his posts in this thread 2 days ago...only one nite he slept alone because he was so tired and wanted to rest alone...:)

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how much budget requires depends on many factors

- how many persons spliting the bill..cost will be lower if its in a bigger group
- what are the activities for the whole day
- which grade type of ktv..is it bia om or KTV
- meals eaten at where...e.g breakfast of banh mi op la or dim sum at Ocean Palace
- many many other factors more

i do meet many hardcore chiongsters who start their activities as early as 10am...below is an e.g of one such group of 4 which i encounter last week

- hairwash and massage at Le Duyen equalvilant type of saloon
- lunch at Ocean Palace/Hoang Long
- foot massage at Windsor
- massage with bbbj
- dinner at restaurant similar to Tram Chim style
- Martell 2+1 package at Fortune KTV
- Martell 1 + 1 package at Kumho
- supper at Ah Buu
- bring gals from Fortune back for LT

this grp is sibei hardcore...i thought that i am already hardcore..till i meet them then i know that i am just small fly...:o...they practically chiong from 10am till 5am...:eek:
$1k Sgd might just be enough for the activities above.

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haha...yes i knew...all these activities will be discussed before hand...I cannot chiong like the above...and if any hardcore wants above then will asked them to look for you....:)

ours are relaxing chiong...slow pace and easy...only main activities is bia om at nite...:)

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riot nearest to Hcmc is in Binh Duong..factories set ablaze and some Taiwanese kena beaten up when they try to interfere..a factory which produce 2 famous brands of sportwear was kena looted of abt 20,000 pairs of shoes (knn,dunno how the Vietnamese manage to carry so much)...majority of factories being looted are manufacturing factories.

Hcmc is relatively quite safe although there are some small scale street protest...a grp of protesters hit district 5 last night but nothing much occured..only there to show their presence and show their dissactisfication

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If I didn't injured myself then I could have had more spending opportunities. Save the Dongs for next time lah.:p

Also didn't go hardcore what. Slow pace and easy suits me fine.

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Due to the yanda in china seems to be lots of interest from guys who used to go to china and are now looking elsewhere so ill post this.
Let me give u a quick summary of what kinda mongering country vietnam is, its a country filled with scammers ie if you a foreigner you will be scammed..secondly as its illegal, prositution its very much hidden, but due to a legal loophole its possible to get bj easier than to get fs, so now what you have is a divided scene, one for locals which is very much hidden, cheap and good, but its done in evironments that is less than ideal for westerners, then you have the market targeting tourists which is generally filled with scammers and short cut takers ie bad servcie providors.
Thus in terms of bbbj u can get that at the barber shops spread through out the city but the issue is how do u communicate what u want, get a good price and distinguish it form a normal barber shop and they are everywhere except district one, the western exposed area. You can also get bbbj in cafe om and in massage parlors and again the location is as per the barber shops.
Next there is a HUGE market for freelancers, but again getting their numbers is difficult, you cant see their faces just pics of their bodies, and then organising the meet up is a hassles, they busy, arrive late etc etc.
There is the local secret brothels, which is what i deal with.
There is the tourist market of pimps, bars etc and the price is higher than it is in thailand, and often with accompanying bad service.
Then there is the bia om, kTV, and there before u even get the girls u will have had an outlay of 100-200usd through drinks and other charges.
There are also street girls which i would advise against, and also "decent" girl whores, ie decent girls who act like whores ie they will sleep with you after you have spent enough money on them.

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I wonder why Vietnamese act so rash with the recent incident with China. I do understand their anger and frustration but the riot is not necessary. There are so many factories being torched. People are being killed during and injured at this time. Do they know that with this incident, millions of dollars is lost. Do they know the consequences of doing such act????
a) Loss of Investment from Foreign Investors;
b) Loss of Income to Vietnamese and the Government;
c) Higher Inflation;
d) Higher Crime Rate (when people do not have a stable job)

Furthermore, the rich Vietnamese will take this chance to monopolise some of the trade. I hope this incident will end soon. Let all pray and hope cos I going there for a business trip soon. If not I think I going to cancel the trip

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I also like relaxing chiong and bia om at night, but recently my gout attack seem getting worse. My bx will scold me if my leg are swollen the next day.:(