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there are many places selling mutton soup hotpot..

but i personally prefer the one at Truong Dinh cos food is ok and centrally locatec

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This part i agree

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H88, Congratulations achieving power 12. Hope you go on to achieve new heights.

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pardon my counter idea..but have 1mill points or 100 power what can do...maybe in the old days points = credability when u post, and this you can also ask people for info easily, nowadays too many asker not enough giver on all the threads...ask yourself, from thread one 2007 to thread 3 2015 soon, what new info has been shared, still the same catwalk, 700, 1127, dainam, vien dong ..anyone who know anything donest want their playground ruined or is sick of all the leeches...so what is the point of points...only function in my mind is so you can post YOUR actual real thoughts without few of being zapped into censorship...but most guys too scared to do that even when they have 1000 points...zapp me all you want..if only i can set a system up where every zap can be converted to money, id be rich...but then I WONT be silenced by the masses of "men" who hide behind their nicks, zapping away namelessly

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well said.........at last there is something that you say is also how i feel.......:):):)

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Haha I got zapped for posting here.. But who cares..
People who know me will help me out regardless of pts. People who won't help, won't change their mind cos of my pts too.. :D

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Bro,

I will upzzz you.

I also Kenna zapped when I post here first time but then again others heip to upzzzz me back.

Rdgs

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Haha I told u so many gutless men hiding abt...BTW I feel sorry for all the Chang ping refuggrss I get guys asking me for info even in hanoi where I have been only twice and it took me 30mins to find 2 St to give me a Bbbj for 150k each...so guys if you too lazy to read to find your fun then noone going to spoonfeed you...lazy chrongster will also prob be lazy negitiators and so prob spoil market typrs so maybe most seniors wont welcolm u with open arms..brst bet find a agent to guide you

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To borrow from the ongoing sprately island conflict make Vietnamese hcm for the Vietnamese keep it Vietnamese hands off China or China cp refugees... I'll say myself if I see a guy as a regular cp cheongster I am less inclined to help because their problem is their own making in many ways now looking at other places to spoil...keep VN Vietnamese haha

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din know mutantchicken felt that way too .. but he got more buffer
I'm the "victim" of all these zap nonsense ..
but if i no give a d@mn to the points.. I'm not a victim :rolleyes:

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Reading this I just gotta LMFAO…LOUD!!

Coz I say….only on a wing and a prayer! Let me just relay to you what my experiences had been for Chang Ping.

Up to say…five or so years ago, us Hong Kong and Taiwanese mongers (who pretty well dominated the market there), had things just perfect for us; plentiful supply of nubile young things at various STANDARDIZED prices depending on the type of service offered i.e. KTV girl prices went up from 1-3-7 to 2-5-8 and stayed there for quite a few years, BBS gals at 150/400 in one area and 200/500 in another etc. and more importantly, most girls were pliant and their “service” quite genuine.

Enter Intl Sex guide, Mamak and of course SBF…followed by all sorts of agent offering their services for Chang Ping. Started with guides who declared themselves as such, getting kick-backs from KT’s saunas etc and encouraging profligate spending but it wasn’t until those Stealth agents started operating there that things really went haywire. These stealth agents pretend to just be regular members who want to “share” bills but are actually getting kickbacks. But since they keep on demanding more and more kickbacks from the mommies/managers, these operators very quickly figured out for themselves that these foreigners are easy marks/suckers…and went ahead and started to do their own fleecing.

I tried my best to relay what all was happening in Chang Ping and politely appealed for moderation as these Big Swinging Dicks were spoiling it for the rest of us; and for my efforts, I got rewarded by mass zappings/ organized attacks organized by a particular stealth agent together with his acolytes who also fed off/benefited from his activities. And these zaps I estimate must have totaled over 400-500 points to date – so yeah, a very concerted effort. And I’ve heard from the grapevine that this agent is now moving his activities to other SE Asian markets.

And then there is the added complication of the rising wealth of the Chinese themselves – a phenomena that is being duplicated in Vietnam I believe – and these guys starting to also throw money around.

So I say, if you think you can keep things all hunky-dorey in HCMC as it is right now, think again!
And I’d instead just suggest that you enjoy your lay of the land as much as you can …. before it also goes all to hell!!

SEAJ

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Yes, we can tell from your postings.

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Dear SEAJ, with greatest ( hmm hmm) respect, i would like the right of reply to this effectively pointless debate apart from on a mildly intellectual basis.
Firstly I assume when you are saying you are laughing out aloud its in regards to what you percieve as my naivity. After my post maybe you will see that it is yourself who is in fact naive.
Firstly I conceed you points about chang ping and you know chang ping best so its would be stupid of me to debate how and what CP has become, secondly it would be equally stupid of me to say that VN etc will always remain the same.
What I am trying to say is this,
1. Chang ping ISNT the same as Vietnam, and neither is VN the same as AC, BKK, PATTAYA, JKARTA or any of the other sex hot spots around the world.
Correct me if im wrong, but it is my understanding chang ping is quite small(1,440km sq) with all the vice ie bbs and ktv segregated on a few streets or within a relatively small area so, not only is it organised but uniform with that 2/5/8 standardisation . HN and HCM is NOT like that its a huge city (2100 km sq) with HIDDEN vice, it will be vice presented as a cafe, bubble tea shop, a restaurant, a barbershop, etc etc, and its spread out in all the districts all 15 or so, and often with only 1-2 such establishments on each street. Sure there will be areas where they are clumped but with recent developments thats changing. Then you factor the disorganised nature of these establishments, the scammy nature of viets, you will get a scenario where i will go in get one girl, get charged a certain price with a certain level of service, now u can go in cant get that girl, get a different service and get charged a different price as well, this isnt exactly user friendly for most guys and they will not return. Why is it that jakarta isnt as popular as say BKK or AC or CP...if anything purely based on teh fact that its vice is so spread out, and its vice is definatly more discoverable than VN as well as the pricing is much more transparent. There is no debate that Vn will change in time, but the factors i have mentions will retard its decline IMO.
2. the next point is to address the nature of men, the truth is men go to sex hot spots not only for the price but for the service, you wont find many indians in thailand for example because the girls look down and refuse service, likewise u dont see as many chinese based men in the phillipines compared to say whites, again based on the receptivness of the girls. Also men are inherently lazy, they wont make the effort to hunt out the scene, they expect to be spoon fed, i mean look at H88 he is one of the most passionate advocators of vn, and yet he prob knows 1/10 of what i know because he too (lazy) to find new places or he finds it too hard..now if he is like that the senior the TS etc who has been comming here for 10 yrs or so compared to my 6 yrs...what do you think will happens to the hordes of chinese new money, esp with teh age old distrust of teh chinese by the viets. On a separate note, the ONE reasons singaporean men are said to be liked by viet women is that they easy to control, gentle and money comes out of their ass like a atm with a few soft words, any one who doenst accept that is delusional, they can call it being a gentleman, quote singaprean gdp, how many countries u can visit visa free blha blah
3. The final point is, given the truths you stated it would be extreme foolishness for me to accellerate vn decline by freely passing information to all the chang ping refugees, which was my original post.

Btw ill be going to china next year for my month long cheong exploration, and if i do find any hidden play grounds which i believe there are, given my track record in laos, cambodia and indonesia...ill pass u on a few tidbits in memory when you laughed at my naivity :)

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so your point is my ideas are readily understood and thus no need to repeat myself, and so your post is to what..reconfirm a point that was already confirmed?
Again thats seems to be the nature of all your posts, just white noise...i take it your mr nobody in the real world..so that makes you feel like every "contribution" you make validates your existance. BTW i do question you reading and comphrehension, because you are teh guys who even after my posts expressing my dislike for volcano, you are the one who pm me introducing your self as a guy who knows volcano wanting to meet up...yes yes u can say where is my proof, when i dont keep pms of buzzing flies.

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try make it after the 14th because ill be in hanoi exploreing these sex resorts up north...they are in the middle of nowhere, no international airport 20-30km form the closest city, but you have syt good service and cost 150-200k..need access by car or motorbike

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warning all u singaporean samster who have vn wives supposedly this old piece of news has hit the vn new so ur gf and wives will be ready to crack heads
http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest+...05-375888.html

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Holy crap!! That totally knocks me over! I'm totally into mutton stuffs!! Please share with me that place? :p:p

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Lẩu dê Lâm Ký
Vietnamese Restaurant and Asian Restaurant
47 Nguyen Thi Nho str (11 District), Ho Chi Minh City, Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
supposedly been established since 75, go early otherwise no tables...VERY busy

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Not likely...Planning trip to elsewhere..

Hope prices wont increase much.... esp after visited by market spoilers...

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For the record, I don't know volcano. I don't pm to u as there is no need to.
You don't have the evidence to back up your claim.

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i think you missed several key points...my observations are based on several years here in HCM...:)

compared to few years ago, since last year HCM chiong scene had been raided and the city nite scene had been eradicated for several months...now most new chiong places are underground...:)

few years ago...there are few so called agents trying their luck to receive kick-backs from regular clubs/ktvs/etc...but we exposed them here in the thread and then newbies no longer trusted them...so warnings had been sounded long ago to prevent unauthorised ppl acting as frens trying to con newbies to hcm...^^

those touristy area with clubs/discos/ktvs had been over-paid and over-spoilt by foreigners for many years...anyway we avoid such places and for past few years had not been to these entertainment places...the places remain small and only within a small area...:)

I begged to differ from your observation...Vietnam is still very different from your usual CP or PRC playground...because no common language...and Vietnamese who had learned English or other foreign languages rather leave their country to work overseas...so HCM is not so spoilt after all...:)

dun forget that there are many smaller cities in Vietnam...and still plenty of choices to go within 6hrs traveling time from HCM to seek fun...^^

PS: fyi...a few years ago...some chiongsters who frequent CP, ZH, etc tried to infiltrate HCM...after a few trips...they found nothing much they can do...I knew who they are and had since not met up with them...^^

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this point I agreed...Vietnam is different from these other places...:)

let me address this point...i have a totally different perspective to this...

let me say again...I dun chiong...before the raids last year...I got the addresses for cafe om, bbbj joints and fj shops from previous threads and ppl sharing with me...I admitted have never been to these places...i dun like such places...i brought some frens to these places and waited for frens outside...i sat at the reception and spoke to the gals...while waiting for frens to choose and finish their deeds...:)

so after the raids last year I dun know new places...because I dun go find them and dun like to go such places because I dun go chiong...so when ppl ask me I refer to you MC...:)

I live my own life and go to HCM for my own purpose...I dun live a life for others...I had stopped chionging and just enjoy having a coffee or beer...but if my friends wanted to go along with me...we often meet and discuss what their wanted to do before trip and we see if those itinerary fits...since I dun charge anyone and they keen to follow so by all means we can go hcm together...I am not bothered what kind of ratings in anyone mind that I know the chiong scene...even you give a zero ratings so be it...hahah...:)

bro AtlasShrugged and others whatsapp/pm me - I will still say the same thing...if you want chiong cafe om, bbbj om, fj shop...pls contact MC...becos I dun know any places now...^^

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of cos there is no proof bcos i dont know him

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tippings for gals at entertainment outlets,massage places,saloon etc have their price increased after foreigners go frequently.

a mutton hotpot place meant for locals will increase as well???

i doubt so lah...dont worry so much...:)

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Sigh, recently was insult by someone in the forum for no particular reason. send me a pm with newly created ID. This type of ah gua only dare to scream/scold in the forum. I don't think he dare to come out. Anyone seniors happened to them before???

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I had received at least 10 of these profanities in my pm...just dun bother to read...open your ignore list and key in the nick...you will not read anymore...:)

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take it easy dude...i also receive many such PM when i refuse to share address of certain places

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Childish people do this sh.t.