Originally Posted by Sexrider (Post 3625221)

Bro, regarding the obat kuat, I just said so, I never take it before. Some of them (even girls) like the feeling to take ecstasy / "on" mainly because of the "high" feeling and improve in sex stamina and performance. But I am thinking (will never take) that it only boost the stamina temporary with drawbacks. There are many more healthier ways to do so, therefore no need to go to such extreme.

Yeah, you are right, good quality normally will not come to here first. They will firstly work in Bandung, Jakarta, Surabaya or Bali. Heard that they earn better there, higher income, easier job. Then, they will go to Tg Pinang/ Tg Balai. After which they will end up in Batam. Don't know how true is it. Weekdays sometimes can get better looking ones but sometimes I do patrol these joints during weekdays, it is either those better ones taking leaves or taking rest. Sometimes really difficult. I don't know who, but early in the day the girls being booked already. :o

Additional info: Do get prepared that some of the WLs have attitude problem. They tend to have many pattern, more than badminton. Nowadays, some of the girls i do not know what are they working for? For fun? Because they just don't bother (bochap), whatever complaints you want to launch or make, they will just ignore. Well, to comfort yourself, what do you expect with half of the booking price compare back home?

Originally Posted by newyorker88 (Post 3625070)

These medicine in indonesia? Unless you are sure you know what you are eating, dont any how buy. Although they are not as bad as those China guys who poison the drugs intentionally, I still dont go for these items.

Originally Posted by newyorker88 (Post 3625370)

Ya. I dont anyhow try any drugs that is manufactured for SEX drive.

Regarding the WL, yes, they earn in Jakarta first. .....

First time, I believe they charge close to 5 juta. And subsequant brothers who try her will be charged less. ....

Then she move down as a FL or WL. .....

Originally Posted by skyfree (Post 3626622)

well, to be honestly, i did purchase ubat kuat for my friends who consumed and also take back to malaysia to distribute....
got different type of ubat kuat...some only help didi, some help whole body, depends on what type of capsule.........

Originally Posted by Sexrider (Post 3628466)

Bro Newyorker, among these massage, which are a few that you recommended?
Both healthy massage and unhealthy.

Laguna (Next to Puri Garden) 6 6, clean
Trinity (at Trinity Hotel) 6 7 got special before
Puri Garden Massage (same boss for the Goodway/Mandarin's) 4 7specials and range of gals to choose from, mostly from javaMassage 89 (89 hotel) 8 8, clean, nice place also, can bring GF there

Indo Thai (Penuin) 6 unsure 6, clean
Sawadika (Next to Top 100 Penuin) 8 8, good massage, clean place, can bring GF too. They got another one in Nagoya Mall too.
Abi (Near Hotel Lai Lai) 3 6, got specials. But mostly MILF, older ones. Got younger ones if you request.
Bahari (Near Hotel Lai Lai) unsure 6 clean, older ladies too. But some brothers says gotte specials before too.

Lai Lai (Near Hotel Lai Lai) unsure 6, clean,
Dessy (Farmosa area) unsure 6, confirm specials, cheapest HJ around.Older ladies

Linda (Farmosa area)unsure6, confirm specials, cheapest HJ around.Older ladies

Beauty Moon (Behind Harmony) 4 5, younger ladies, clean

Pas Massage (Near newtown) 5 3, blacklist by me. Bad experience. Run down.

Top One (Near Hong Kong Foodcourt, newtown) 7 Havent try, got specials? This one new.
Forgot the name (Next to Flamingo) 3

Flamingo (At newtown stretch) unsure, 4 New joint. did not try. By some brothers say clean.

Flower (Near newtown) 4 5, cheap also, for spa and massage. A bit old place, Gotten speicals in VIP room.

Kuta (Near BCS) unsure, maybe 7 ? You mean next to Nagoya Mall? I tot close down liao?
Isabella (In BCS area) unsure, maybe 78, clean, can brign GF.

In front BCS (Don't know the name) 7 Universal? Havent try

2 more near Samarinda (I think you have mentioned before, but I don't remember their names) 3 6 Javana( got speicals. But abit ex place. Abit old place MADURANI 8, gotten specials there too, nice massage, but gals may be a bit old. Place is abit old, but nice place


Atlanta 3 7 Most ex in town. Top selection of gals, but ask for high prce too. Biggest spa around too.


Ranking from 1 to 10 for the "clean" massage without additional
1 being the tendacy to get massage with additional
10 being just good massage, most of the time won't have plus additional services.

Originally Posted by Sexrider (Post 3628423)

Bro, I was just saying, not intended to take (the obat kuat) needless to say ecstasy. I knew some of the chiongsters here do take the risk to either enjoy ecstasy or give ecstasy to FLs/WLs here and have some great bonking session afterwards. But these type of people their butts feel itchy want to become jailbirds.

Bro, great to hear your finding about those WLs. Sometimes I think if they are not that stupid in term of logical thinking, I think we will not have so many beauties working as WLs. :D And if one have chances to keep track these girls lives, I can say a lot of them are rotten to the core

Originally Posted by newyorker88 (Post 3625070)

Haha, good observation. Most of the beautiful top rated ones already "bao" by people liao. Mostly in Jakarta. They come to Batam becos they either CMI in jakarta liao or got older liao.

Weekends are most busy time. If you come on week days, usually you can get better looking ones.

Originally Posted by newyorker88 (Post 3628644)

From What I understand, the estacys that they made "can be different" too. Those made locally are not so good. THey get " hangovers". THe better ones from Holland are good stuff, they dont get the "hangovers" effect. But much more expensive.

Just commenting from my friends years ago who told me these. Final word of advise: DONT TRY IT.

Reasons as follows:

1) You are harming your body. THey can claim it is not addictive, but the BEHAVIOUR can be addictive. You want to get high again and again.

2) The next day, you go into sour mood, cant work. Mentally disturbed.

3) Long term use can make you get angry easily or foul mood.

These are personal observation on friends who use it regularly. That is why I caution all brothers to stay away from it. One time, my friend had an overdose and I had to hual him back to hotel room. He passed out. His heart rate was going at 150 per minute while resting.




I greatly support the police on the raids, but cheongsters should be careful not to get involved or becareful when police come to raid( you know indo police pattern lah).


Otherwise have a great time cheonging.:)

Originally Posted by skyfree (Post 3628937)

yes, i understand, when taking either ubat kuat or ecastsy, must be careful.....if taking with alcohol lagi worse...for some....

i remember taking one but my body too tired...even when bonking cannot cum and somemore my didi is still hard as rock...but cannot cum in the end....

Originally Posted by newyorker88 (Post 3629098)

Hahaha, I ever watch my buddy fuck the gals, and he dun cum for 3 hours. Probably his body too full of these drugs? Cannot cum?

Mixing with alcohol is the norm. They pop the pills in to the alcohol and eery one drinks from it. Make sure you ask for seperate drinks. Let other know you dont want to take part. Usually good friends will not force you, but some nasty ones will pressure you. And WATCH your bottle, incase they decide to pop one into your drink :(

Originally Posted by beet (Post 3628738)

Even if the gals got older, they are still young by Singapore standards. However, you got to spend time to hunt down these gems who most likely have their own regulars. The cons of cheonging in Batam is that the KTVs seems to spread all over the island. Till now, I still rely on the taxi drivers to bring me around to view the goods.