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you are just too kind..i hereby annouced you had graduated...now master level of hcm local bia om...haha....:)

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ops.. sorry.. i just changed my trip.. is 14-17 May 2014... :p

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Hmm... actually just to see if anyone here going ktv or have some nightlife and i can tag along. Of course the cost is split or I can pay slightly higher but please don't treat me as carrot head.. haha.. I am sure different people have different preference and I am not that kind of person that will anyhow complain:) I just think that it will be more fun if there is someone who speak viet.. :cool: It's also more fun to drink together than drinking alone.

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Just some views , why would any one waste their time on some dumb fuck to entertain him , which thinks it is more fun despite knowing that it is a whole world of difference between one person which can speak and can't speak. Won't complain already but say don't treat me like a carrot!!? haha i wonder at times , are people getting dumber or is this the acts of clones trying to post as newbies? When is it more fun to drink with a total stranger?

As our local resident says , we non locals would probably be paying at least 20% more than whatever the locals are paying and much much more if you don't speak. By telling others , please don't treat me like carrot head , you are already telling the whole world you are one. First , you not know how much is the standard , second those which will pm you would be the ones with ulterior motives and you would probably end up paying anyway.

Don't be stupid la , first time go out , just pay to enjoy yourself , most important is be happy. Forget the share or pay slightly more , most people boh kiam eng one , why the need to add another dead weight? My suggestion just be prepared to pay in full for everything at least for the first time. People are offering their time and effort , the least you can do is foot for everything. It is a friendly gesture and basic manners. If people offer to help pay some after that it is a bonus, else just suck it up. Facts of life , there is no free lunch in this world.

Some times , if cost is a factor when you go out then it is best to stay where you are comfortable at , else best to stick at home.

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this post is a bit harsh but im afraid i have to agree..let me post this here so i dont have to repeat myself via pm by the guys who pm me.
I speak for myself but im sure plenty of otherguys also feel same way..we live here, some work some are semi retired, but nevertheless we all have hobbies or distractions, im partly vietnamese, i speak vietnnamese pretty well and i have vietnamese associates all of them women, so pretty much on ANY given day i can have a female date, and at any given hour via massages/hot toc/cafe om/brothels/bia om/ktv i can have a female bed companion. Because i dont have a singaporean connection i really dont have any culteral connections to most u guys, so the idea that i can meet u guys and appease any longings for home/sillypore is non existant, i def dont miss the stupid and retarded accent that is singlish and if i NEVER hear another lah, then good riddence. So here is my options i can stay at home relax or i can go at anytime any area and get myself a hj/bj/fj, or i can go meet a preety girl for a date, OR i can meet u guys, deal with your lateness, inability to find a place, the later guide the taxi to xyz, wait for u to make ur choices instruct the girls to treat u well, make sure u know the pricing so they dont rip u off, and even let u have first choice etc etc etc...and so please tell me where as the romans say "cui bono" or who gains?

I tell u a story abt when i first came her, i met up with a bunch of fellow chengster, we didnt know each other, one guy was a malaysian, he had read that he should tip the mommy 300k, at that time the tip was 100k for the girls...then he just tipped the mommy unilaterally but then asked us later to repay him, further these guys didnt know how to play in the bia om, so in the end i couldnt do anything as my girl kept on telling me how decent my "friend" were....they drank like pigs whereas im non drinker, and after that when the bill was split it was split evenly, and then girl tips i wnated to tip 100k, but as all teh otehr tipped 300k i couldnt, finally because i was the organiser i couldnt verywell have first choice, end night it cost me more, had less fun, and didnt even have the girl i wanted...again cui bono

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Ok. I don't wish to be a dead weight. And I take everyone senior comment here openly. Since everyone is suggesting me to expore first. I will do as u all suggested.

Just chill okay? Maybe my thinking is a little wrong but I mean no harm or is not trying to rip or enjoy any free ride here. :)

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Just enjoy your trip, don't think or worry so much. Pay what you are comfortable. No one on earth will cane your ass if you pay too much or little. :D

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well not literally maybe at most some tongue lashing abt being carrot head...suppose the question do u spend money on people who will spend time and effort showing u a good and fair time and u spend that money to thank and compensate them for their time and then use that knowledge for your own benefit in future, or do u let urself be carrot by WL who just think your stupid and after that you will have zero information for the future. One is spend money as a investmnet, the other is to be a carrot.

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Mongers go out for entertainment alone or with friends. Of cause to have a guide is good but how do you determine the rates of a guide or so called the market rates? Some guides accept a meal, some wants per day/hour USD100... To pay a so called guide for USD 100, guess most mongers rather carrot by gers.

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thats its isnt everyone has a measure of what they think is value...no one recommend or force anything on anyone else...my comment was purely to give a explaination as to why or if he gets a reaction to his post..definately some one who is planninmg to come to vn regularly is going to see value as oppose to someone who come once, or someone who wanst to just fuck as oppose to someone who wants to try to fish...like wise the guide who is unemployed who would see his time worth a meal would be different from a guide who in his normal job is paid 100/hr, he would obviously value his time differently...end of the day the "market" rate only applicable to tours guuide going to co chi or floating market etc etc...in this case, teh comparison is more like this u cna go to lor xx and get indo for fuck 30sing, or u can get a "model" for 1000, question is whether she is a real model or a fake on, and whether, the customer valies that "added" quality be it a virgin/uni student etc etc

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Actually u r correct.. it's really based on individual. I can understand how u feel based on the scenario u gave earlier. U tried to be helpful yet u are at the losing end. Worst, u pay more but enjoy less.

Well, I guess i had unknowingly stirred some debate here.. :cool:

Maybe anyone free during my stay want to have a coffee? My treat. :D:D:D

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I agree that it's really based on individual. I can understand how u feel when u are trying to be helping yet u end up enjoy less. Worst, you pay more that what u are paying usually.

Seems like I had unknowingly stirred some debate here.. I apologise for that.

Maybe if there is anyone free during my stay there we can meet for coffee? My treat. I know it's not very expensive but just want to know more people around. :rolleyes:

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 

I agree that it's really based on individual. I can understand how u feel when u are trying to be helping yet u end up enjoy less. Worst, you pay more that what u are paying usually.

Seems like I had unknowingly stirred some debate here.. I apologise for that.

Maybe if there is anyone free during my stay there we can meet for coffee? My treat. I know it's not very expensive but just want to know more people around. :rolleyes:

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well,i think different people has different views on this issue.

let me share with u some recent cases.

i have been providing guide n hotel booking service for a period of time.

here comes a group of 4 where 3 are 1st timers n 1 has been to Hcmc for 3 times.the so called "old bird" of the group is reluctant on getting a guide for 100 Usd per day as he said that he knows the places to visit.but the other 3 convince him to try it out first for the 1st day as it's being recommended by a friend that engage the service before.

the group arrive at hotel and the taxi fare is 380k...the grp call the guide as the guide was waiting for them at the hotel lobby as the hotel booking is also arranged.went out talk to the driver,give the driver 180k,unload everything n check into hotel..

if its a tourist who cant speak Vietnamese...will u argue with driver or just pay 380k n solve the matter?

having debrief with the grp n the old bird commented that he know places for massage where the gals shower for u,massage n perform HJ..the entrance is 600k and tips 500k...brought the grp for massage where the gal also shower for u but perform BBBJ...entrance is 500k n tips is 500k...although its only cheaper by 100k per pax but difference of HJ or BBBJ.

proceed to KTV and old bird commented he went to a few before..gals were ok and charges for LT is 200 Usd.brought the grp to another KTV and the old bird commented that gal's quality is on a par with the previous KTV he went..he jio the gal for LT and the gal quote 200 Usd..all the other 3 try out and was quote 200 Usd as well.guide came in to negotiate with the gals n settle for 3 mills Vnd which is abt 140 Usd.

on the way back to the hotel and the old bird requested the service of the guide for the other 2 days.

on actual fact,the grp pays the guide 100 Usd,also plus entrance and expenses of the guide at various places,the total is less then 200 Usd..but the grp saves 200k on taxi,400k on massage with better service and 240 Usd on gal's LT..furthermore,they get to know many places to chiong n the prices.

a guy book hotel direct from Agoda bcos its cheaper by 5 Usd of the hotel rake price instead of going through the agent again knowing that the hotel is girl friendly and allows bringing back of female guest.the guy was stop by the counter when he bring back his female guest at night..the conter staff demanded the guy to pay 10 Usd if he wants to bring his female guest back,explaining that its meant for opening a "spare room"..the guy say he did bring back female guest before but the counter staff disallow n say its new policy..the guy eventually call the agent and explain the situation n saying that bcos its a very last min decide trip hence never ask the agent to book..saying paiseh and will go through the agent the next time..well,the agent knows very well that the guy book through Agoda bcos its cheaper by 5 Usd n not due to last min trip..but did talk to the hotel staff through phone n solve the issue out of good will.

honestly speaking..99% of 3 stars and below hotels do allow bringing back of female guest..but..its the staffs that want to earn that extra money..well,cases like these are little..usually hotel staff will not restrict,but what if u are the unlucky one??

getting a guide or agent service a not depends on varies...its just like some prefers A cup to C cup...:D