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The next day or that night itself feel itchy already. I went bbbj on 24 december and 25 december by 2 different people. 26 december itchy already. So is it Yeast? Sex should be only done with the person we love right? Or is recreational sex okay also thus commercial sex is okay/acceptable? Since dolphins also have recreational sex, humans are the only other species that has recreational sex. When I say recreational I mean casual, means not done out of love.

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Sex should be only done with the person we love right? Or is recreational sex okay also thus commercial sex is okay/acceptable? Since dolphins also have recreational sex, humans are the only other species that has recreational sex. When I say recreational I mean casual, means not done out of love.

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I feel a higher sense of achievement going on dates with normal women and ending the date off with sex than paying for sex with an ML/prostitute since the latter is guaranteed...

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Chimpanzees and bonobos does recreational sex too.
What we know is not all that it is.

Anyway, not sure what this thread is about, but same adage applies, wanna chiong, dont be scared, scared, don't chiong.

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This thread was about the STD that i kena recently and advice on what steps I should take. Just a side question of whether should commercial sex be accepted or not? Or should we only have sex with our gf and wife. Maybe not even fwb as FWB is classified under recreational sex, actually sometimes we also have recreational sex with our gf and wife, meaning without the intention of reproducing. But still, should commercial sex be accepted? They will then say even for gf and wife you also pay in the form of dating expenses so it's still a transaction, but gf and wife will care for you ma. Because I keep finding it very hard to get over the hurdle in my mind to accept commercial sex, so was hoping if any bros can change my view.

It's not about wanna chiong don't be scared, is just nice I didn't thought about STD when I chiong(plus other factors).

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Update:

The itch is almost fully gone! I knew the Vagilisl cream would work because mine was yeast infection(another bro told me mine was yeast infection in another thread, cause I went to google yeast infection after that and they recommended Vagilsil cream).Thanks for advice anyway bros. Vagisil Cream costs $17.05 btw, not cheap, but much cheaper than visiting the doctor :)

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Put it this way...
Do you plan or wish or dream of having your own family?
Or do you even see yourself having one someday?

If the answer is no, why care so much?
Just go and have fun, life is short
If the answer is yes, my advice is don't chiong now...
Wait until you get married, get all the kids you ever wanted until your wife's factory shut down
Then you decide if you want to go chiong or not

Chiong-ing will greatly increase your chances of getting STDs
Actually sleeping around with women from dates, new gfs, FWBs too
But chances are definitely lower
For gfs and FWBs, you can always request to go for screening before you move into the territory of unprotected sex
For commercial sex or women from dates or even ONS, use the condom
Before you get married, stop your CCAs for at least 3 months and go for screening
Or at least this is what I do/did

Getting STDs is no joke
Some are curable, some aren't
If you are going to have kids and you got STDs that are not curable, such as herpes, syphilis or HIV
Do you seriously want to pass these incurable STDs to your kids?
Hope you get my point lol

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It's weird how come I suddenly got so many points.

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fuck you, another user here alread advocated for you to be banned.

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There was a time (I think last year), I told my boss I am having cough and went to see the doctor
Other than getting cough medication, I also told the doctor that I suspect I have yeast infection and I got the cream too
Clinic claimed from company's insurance, don't even need to go through to my boss for approval
Cost = Nil
Hahaha, plus having MC for fake cough used as "free off day" to go bonk my FWB

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All along I wish to set up a family, traditional family mindset and asian conservative values, found it hard to even accept FWB, much less a prostitute. Alot of things happened leaving my life in a very bad situation that I could see no way out of(incuding can't see myself finding a gf or wife) thus I finally took the plunge and visited 2 prostitute last week. Nah i guess even if my wife factory close I also would not cheat on her. I might even divorce if really need be, or don't even get married in the first place. My main issue for the past 34 years is I am unable to find a FIRST gf.

The thing is because some ML and my mum told me it's normal for single people to visit prostitute because no gf help them(but because of my values I kept rejecting that idea).

Btw bro condom does not protect everything, there is this thing called "crabs" which is lices on pubic hair, thus condom doesn't protect as condom does not cover pubic hair.

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I personally found it very hard to accept FWB or even ML and prostitute due to the conservative values I grew up with. I don't have a job now yet, probably starting next week, so can't claim from company now.

Think of hookers as public toilets.

U know Public toilets are full of germs, no matter how much the janitor clean it daily.

U may or may not get the germs from it but always a chance of getting the germs

I'm sorry yr life got sabotaged. Life is full of ups and downs.

Since u already having a bad life, why are you doing things that will make it even worse?

Why are you not doing things that will improve your life?

You digging bigger hole for yourself?

U can say yr life is v bad, your mind is very depressed. The next worse thing that u can do is do things will even make your life even worse.

U visited anyway when you don't have job or income and still have the audacity to take the moral high ground. Have read the thread, either you are trolling or your EQ is non existence. Complained about not being able to get a GF, well we don't care. I hope u don't have one because I be sorry for her. I will be watching if your are still posting on this forum two weeks time

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Exactly! I thought of the public toilet analogy before, but then why are so many people on this forum still chionging then?

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Hmm it is precisely because I am already in a very bad situation in life with nothing more to lose that's why I visited. So what is the link with moral high ground? I have already explained that a lot of things happened that pushed me over the edge to visit one. Cannot understand is it? Plus my mum gave me some stupid advice that's why I visited one. Which is why I kept saying you all don't have the right to judge or comment. If any people here can convince me against my so called moral high ground that visiting a prostitute can be a regular routine if we are single then naturally I will still be here in this forum in two weeks time.

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Because I can no longer see a way out already. Secondly, because I am in such a bad situation until I have nothing more to lose already. Imagine everyone in your life avoiding you, even friends avoid you, much less potential gfs, this is only one of the factor that pushed me over the edge to visit a prostitute.

I already tried to reset my life many times but still no women want me as a bf.

I get what you are trying to say, I have explained why I still did it above. I seeing counsellor but changed so many counsellors until no progress in getting a gf over 6 years that's why I visited one. I know you will say stick with one fixed one for a longer period of time than go multiple over short period of time but it is not I want de, it's mostly their issue that they were not able to continue with me.

I think u need some professional help to overcome your life situation

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Btw if you don't care about me not being able to get a gf then what right do you have to judge or comment on me?

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Please PM me, I can feel that you care about my life, unlike the post and some others in here who only know how to judge or criticize without having lived through my life before.

Life is full of ups and downs, but this saying does not really apply to my "sabotaged" scenario, I am using the word sabotaged to cover up for the real word that happened to my life. Or just as a close analogy.

Just to let you know my situation, I am 33/34, barely any savings, this is another factor that pushed me over the edge, to be honest this kind can go and commit suicide already, especially in Singapore where cost of livng is so high, much less just visiting a prostitute.

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I just replied above this post of yours to your previous post about me seeing a counsellor now, please go and read. I am in a very difficult situation, you can even say extremely difficult situation, that's why I went to visit one.

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why no job and income cannot visit prostitute? Logic? Plus my new job is coming next week. If you have read every comment like you claimed, you should know that I am 33/34 without having visited a prostitute before until last week due to the conservative values etc. that I grew up with. Thus yes if you really want to compare about morals then I am much more moral than many bros here including you, cause most people already went to one at 18 or 19. Plus what only caused me to visit one was alot of factors that finally pushed me over the edge plus my mum's bad advice. Please think before you talk.

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Get your life together. Work and save up and spend within your means. If need financial assistance there are government agencies which you could reach out too.

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nah government agencies are very troublesome to apply for financial assistance. Spend within my means doesn't mean I was wrong in visiting the prostitute last week. I already calculated before going, just that never thought of need to potentially include additional cost for visiting a doctor for potential STDs only. Thus I was not wrong on that. No use de, I couldn't see myself waiting another 6 months or a few more years even with a counsellor/therapist's help before getting a gf or marriage that's why I went to visit a prostitute, shows you how extremely bad the situation was before I finally decided to visit one. Even if I work and save up I am already at least 8 years behind my peers in terms of income savings already. This amount can never be earned back. This is another factor why I took the plunge.

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if I am 33/34 with an established and high ranking career and already having a lot of savings I can still try to get a wife now no issue. Problem is I am far from it. That's why i went to visit a prostitute.

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if I am 33/34 with an established and high ranking career and already having a lot of savings I can still try to get a wife now no issue. Problem is I am far from it. That's why i went to visit a prostitute.

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I also don't believe in the saying of starting afresh anymore because I am already 8 years or more behind my peers.

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I also don't believe in the saying of starting afresh anymore because I am already 8 years or more behind my peers.