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Castrol 11-08-2007 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hawksbay (Post 2202086)
i will jump of the sheares bridge if spurs provide 11 starting players for england.:p u dreaming a again huh

oh no... what have i done? i'm going to be an accessary to homicide... :D

Castrol 11-08-2007 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by putrawk (Post 2203105)
Now thats something to ponder huh? England has the best team in over a decade now but they still cant win anything. Too bad huh?

well at least england had the best defensive midfielder in the 90s - david batty!

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Originally Posted by putrawk (Post 2203182)
I dunno about u guys, but I am an old fashioned footy fan, where in my opinion numbers reflects the players position and ability. I cant understand why Stalteri is still wearing the no 7, King No 26 and Lennon 25.

i tell you what i know bro. you know sebestian deisler, the most promising german playmaker, wore no.26 for bayern munich when he first started. later on the club wanted to change his jersey number to a more "respectable" one, ie 1st 11 numbers.

but they finally scrapped the idea becos his no.26 jersey had been selling too well and worn by many fans. maybe its the same for ledley king, or perhaps he just loves the 26 he's wearing. i know john terry wears 26 for chelsea too. :D

sunderland 0 spurs 5 !

hawksbay 11-08-2007 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Castrol (Post 2203269)
oh no... what have i done? i'm going to be an accessary to homicide...

yup the cops will find ur sammyboy nick in my pocket so they will noe who to look for:rolleyes:btw not a gd start for u guys huh but s'derland deserved the points.:D

Glen2712 11-08-2007 10:30 PM

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Michael Chopra foils Spurs from winning their opening match. :(

Keano's men were lucky, sneaking in a goal; virtually the last kick of the match. :sucky:

hawksbay 11-08-2007 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Castrol (Post 2203290)
too. :D

sunderland 0 spurs 5 !

nice prediction bro:rolleyes:

andyk 12-08-2007 11:24 AM

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Last nite's game was really disappointing especially when i heard that Gardner was playing,i got nervous already ! Both Kaboul & Gardner playing together for our opening game,they hardly know each other !

We were really lucky with 0 - 1 it could have been 0 - 2 because Robinson had a good save !....

Was never really impressed with Jenas or Zokora because they can hardly combine together or control the midfield...Jenas can't take free kicks no matter how hard he trys !!!

So easy for our opponents to close out our strikers so JOL need better tactics fast !!! :mad:

On paper our team is more impressive & were not hard working enough ! The star players expected others to play harder ! They fall easily to the ground liked Zokora & Tanio ( should sell him !!! )....

What do you SPURS Bros think ?

andyk 12-08-2007 12:04 PM

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Read all the latest news that JOL is blaming his strikers & others except his own tactics !

What was the point of taking of BERBA when DEFOE came in & hardly kick the ball !.......If he was trying to please everyone & make them happy,it was a bad decision !!!

Really disappointing that we never learned from last year when we lost several games because we defended poorly during the extra time...

Do you guys really think we can perform much better & break the top 4 this season ??? :(

lungless 12-08-2007 10:20 PM

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hey Andy, it is only the first game. So give JOL some slack k:).....Anyway, i think it is correct of him to be harshed to the players for their lacklustre performance but i do admit that the team selection needs some improvement.

From the onset when they name the starting 11, i knew that Spurs will have problem playing and the strikers will have problem getting supply from the wing play(the most effective way of opening a defence). With no natural wide player and the selection stalteri on the left defence meant that crosses from wide area will be a rarity and needless to mention stretching sunderland defence further will be a rare thingy too......

As the central midfield will be darn packed, it takes a very highly creative player needed to unlock the opponent defence. I was hoping that Taarabt will be included and the midfield to comprise of either zokora and Tainio(for the bite and holding midfield), Taarabt and Keane....yeah keane coz he is an exceptionally creative player too. I think Jenas lacks creativity and his decision making is a bit slow to unlock defence. The strike force i would pair Berbatov and Bent. With Bent exceptionally good in running in the hole, Spurs would be good to draw Sunderland defence nearer to the centre of the park - to allow Bent doing those diagonal runs....since there will not be much wing play anyway....but taarabt is capable of doing that once a while....

Alas it was not meant to be and again Spurs were left wanting at the end again. Gardner defence was horrendous but consolation was that kaboul was good and very comfortable on the ball...ala King himself....

So we shall see our beloved lilywhite pick themselves for the next game!!
No matter what i shall remain a true Spurs Supporter and thus will support Jol as long as he is in the helm!

*Spurs do need to get a naturally wide left midfield player! Comolli, you hear me?! :D and to get it fast!....and guys we need to show respect to our oponents and not belittled them....only then will we be able to achieve something!

and contrary to many people believe, i thought having a utility player in tainio is good for Spurs as he is a trumpcard....that bloke can play anywhere and he is a true Spurs player thru and thru....and we got him thru free agency too...

nacho 12-08-2007 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lungless (Post 2206129)
No matter what i shall remain a true Spurs Supporter and thus will support Jol as long as he is in the helm!

I am also a die hard Spurs supporter. But the way that they played last night, really had my blood pressure goes up and down.

Just hope Berba and Jol will not have the reported row, else things will not be bright....:(

hawksbay 13-08-2007 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nacho (Post 2206212)
I am also a die hard Spurs supporter. But the way that they played last night, really had my blood pressure goes up and down.

Just hope Berba and Jol will not have the reported row, else things will not be bright....:(

oh oh not a good sign,looks like the scums will be hovering during the jan trfs window:rolleyes:

Castrol 13-08-2007 09:31 AM

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i hope saturday is the worst show spurs will be putting up this season. knn like spurs is the team which is just promoted instead of sunderland ccb.

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/7113298_7_2.jpg
Anthony Stokes of Sunderland in action with Steed Malbranque of Tottenham Hotspur. Sunderland snatched a late winner to beat Spurs 1-0.

Castrol 13-08-2007 09:32 AM

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this sums up the day. :D

AMSTERDAM, Aug 12 (Reuters) - Ajax Amsterdam have accepted a 27 million euro ($36.98 million) offer from Real Madrid for midfielder Wesley Sneijder, the Dutch club said on Sunday.

The 23-year-old Netherlands international, who has played 180 matches and scored 57 goals for Ajax, will sign a five-year contract, the Spanish champions said in Madrid.

pakchik69 13-08-2007 09:58 AM

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I think games are sometimes fixed. Watching the game, the ref made several suspicious decisions. The players seems uninterested and unorganized. Another game lost in the last 5-10 mins of the game due to poor defending. How many games have spurs lost in this manner? For that matter, how many deciding goals are scored in the last 10-15 mins of all premiership games?
Good excuses for the game;1,Sunderland playing with high confidence;2, Spurs have been poor away past 2 seasons.

andyk 13-08-2007 10:08 AM

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Yo,Bros Lungless & Nacho !

I'm a really long time SPURS fan & no,i din lost big $$$ bets that upsetted me so much...guessed with all the pre season buildup & expectation was high !

And it's not only me that pointed that JOL got his tactics wrong & still "pulling out my hair" that why we can buy a left winger & JOL still persist to experiment with various players....think the players are also "confused" with their playing role !....

Ok,hope we can play better next game with Everton...we need all the points before playing MANURE !.....

Anyway,glad to know you SPURS FANs !!! :)

Castrol 13-08-2007 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by hawksbay (Post 2204187)
nice prediction bro:rolleyes:

sorry bro, i was referring to the 2nd leg against sunderland in white hart lane... :p

evilspawnsss 13-08-2007 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Castrol (Post 2206728)
i hope saturday is the worst show spurs will be putting up this season. knn like spurs is the team which is just promoted instead of sunderland ccb.[/I]

Bro u seem lose some money :)

Castrol 13-08-2007 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by evilspawnsss (Post 2206838)
Bro u seem lose some money :)

bro i bet a bit only. it was a tricky game anyway, with roy keane's black cats being all conquering in the championship last season. beer on me after wed. :D

Castrol 13-08-2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lungless (Post 2206129)
and contrary to many people believe, i thought having a utility player in tainio is good for Spurs as he is a trumpcard....that bloke can play anywhere and he is a true Spurs player thru and thru....and we got him thru free agency too...

tainio is quite a cool and all rounder midfielder, but the question is; which position is he best suited for?

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Originally Posted by pakchik69 (Post 2206779)
Good excuses for the game;1,Sunderland playing with high confidence;2, Spurs have been poor away past 2 seasons.

spurs got a midweek game coming 15-aug wed morning 3am against everton. are the players saving up energy? anyway its white hart lane and there will be no mercy.

spore pools is paying 1.85 for a spurs win. 3.05 to give 1.5ball. go for both. have faith all you lily whites! :D

pakchik69 13-08-2007 11:28 AM

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Spurs have always had a good record against everton, home or away. Should beat everton.
Bookies have this system of bet $1000 win $975 or lose $980 whatever the odds are 1,1&1/2 or 1/2,1. Thats where they catch the punters. The volume of bets make This $20/$30 diff. very big to bookies. Dont know if bros understand what im on about.:)

andyk 13-08-2007 11:29 AM

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Yes,Sir ! The next game at Everton is a "must win" at WHL !!!

Earlier one Bro was commented about "kelong" letting a goal in the dying minutes...Think it's not "kelong" but our SPURS players were not "mentally stronger than Roy Keene's team"...They were the "underdogs" so at half time they were happy with a draw & then at the dying minutes...go for a win !!!...
Their players just wanted to prove that "so what SPURS have all the expensive players ?"....Sunderland just wanted to be another Wigan or Reading....newly promoted & want to prove to everyone that they are no walkovers !!!...

And it's really too bad that SPURS had to play them first !...During their goal,several players were just ball watching...the commentator singled out JENAS !....

putrawk 13-08-2007 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Castrol (Post 2206899)
tainio is quite a cool and all rounder midfielder, but the question is; which position is he best suited for?


I think he is suited as a defensive holding midfielder as he will go and win balls. But Jol is likely to opt him as a right sided, left sided or an attacking midfielder. He even played as a right wing back, which doesnt work. He need to settle down in one position for him to realize his true potential. But at Spurs, th players rarely get that chance to settle in one position, as we have one too many central players, no flankers with the exception of Lennon. Thus, players will be rotated in different positions, ie left midfield. So, Mr Jol and Mr Comolli, splash the dough, get a decent left midfielder please. Watched the highlights of the week's game, was dissapointed that we did not sign Petrov. I thought he was class. Not a bad game at all for a debutant.

andyk 13-08-2007 04:39 PM

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It was a tough call on buying Petrov since he had injury history...and since he really didn't want to play for SPURS even after BERBA talked to him,then it's better that he don't play for us !

Hate to dragged this "left sided midfielder or winger" issue for another season,it's really unbalanced !....We need the wing play liked MANURE or CHESKI...or we can't feed BERBA & KEANE or BENT for the goals !!!
Our opponents just crowd the central defence to blocked all our attacks & that will left us really frustrated !!!

Pleaseeeee Mr.JOL,the next player need to be a natural left sided midfield player !!!

WRX_STI 13-08-2007 04:56 PM

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spurs will bounce back

lungless 13-08-2007 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by putrawk (Post 2207476)
I think he is suited as a defensive holding midfielder as he will go and win balls. But Jol is likely to opt him as a right sided, left sided or an attacking midfielder. He even played as a right wing back, which doesnt work. He need to settle down in one position for him to realize his true potential. But at Spurs, th players rarely get that chance to settle in one position, as we have one too many central players, no flankers with the exception of Lennon. Thus, players will be rotated in different positions, ie left midfield. So, Mr Jol and Mr Comolli, splash the dough, get a decent left midfielder please. Watched the highlights of the week's game, was dissapointed that we did not sign Petrov. I thought he was class. Not a bad game at all for a debutant.

I remember when Tainio played with Davids 2 season ago. They were like a pair of Bulldogs...biting and breaking play well in midfield. That is why i think that Tainio is still a valuable player if correctly deployed. I hope that with Boateng and Tainio able to pair up soon, the same effect can achieved and yet with the attacking ability of Boateng, i would think that it will be good. So why not play a diamond formation in midfield(as we are short of a real flanker...hmm, whatever happens to Routledge?)....get Tainio (or zok for that matter) to play Holding Midfield and Boateng on the right, Taarabt on the left and keane in the middle. Strikers will be Berb and Bent first....

For Defence, i think it would be better for Kaboul and Rocha to partner each other(provided Dawson is still out), Right to be Chimbonda and Left to be Gardner as he is a left footer....

It is always interesting!!......but i think we still need a creative left sided midfielder!:)

lungless 13-08-2007 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by andyk (Post 2207524)
It was a tough call on buying Petrov since he had injury history...and since he really didn't want to play for SPURS even after BERBA talked to him,then it's better that he don't play for us !

Hate to dragged this "left sided midfielder or winger" issue for another season,it's really unbalanced !....We need the wing play liked MANURE or CHESKI...or we can't feed BERBA & KEANE or BENT for the goals !!!
Our opponents just crowd the central defence to blocked all our attacks & that will left us really frustrated !!!

Pleaseeeee Mr.JOL,the next player need to be a natural left sided midfield player !!!


Sometimes i dun know whether is it because of Mr Levy shrewed business like mind that makes all these so called rumours failed. You know that Levy dun like to pay much and he is good in that sense that Spurs get most players on the cheap under him - except for Bent(cannot blame him as Ipswich needs to be paid as well)....if you notice all the transfer done by Spurs recently they always indicate undisclosed fee....So if our Spurs board try to get a certain player on the cheap, more likelihood that it will not be agreed by the selling club except for some....

I agree with you to get a Left Sided Midfield player!! go grab sneijder under REALs' nose!! haha

andyk 13-08-2007 05:17 PM

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Yo Bro LUNGLESS,i liked your reading & suggestion ! Hope it'll happen soon !

Last sat TANIO was not playing his best,what do you think of JENAS & ZOKORA,it seem that JOL thinks highly of JENAS !

Read in Daily Mail that JOL may play BENT & DEFOE for EVERTON game ! I think BENT & BERBA will be better & then before the end of the game DEFOE....What do you guys think ?

lungless 13-08-2007 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by andyk (Post 2207674)
Yo Bro LUNGLESS,i liked your reading & suggestion ! Hope it'll happen soon !

Last sat TANIO was not playing his best,what do you think of JENAS & ZOKORA,it seem that JOL thinks highly of JENAS !

Read in Daily Mail that JOL may play BENT & DEFOE for EVERTON game ! I think BENT & BERBA will be better & then before the end of the game DEFOE....What do you guys think ?

Andy, to be honest Jenas is a talented lad but he does not put his weight in all games! Personnally i like Zokora alot. He plays really well for Ivory Coast. The real weakness for both is their Vision, especially Jenas. If both can improve on this they would be in any team. I also like Hudds but im wondering whether the kid works hard coz he seems to put on weight everytime i see him play and although creative, his decision making can be a little slow at time. If he trains hard he will be the man to spray the passes but he is still not the man to hold the midfield together as he sucks in tackles!! haha...maybe he wants to be scholes?!!

This season i hope to see berchiche and dervite plays in defence at some point of time.

I think Berb and Bent will make a better combi than Bent and Defoe will ever be. Coz Bent is a hardworking fella who tracks back and run into spaces very well, just the player that Berbs or Keane can complement! Defoe, needs to able to be in line so as not to be caught offside(his main weakness) but overall finishing i still think that defoe is the best among 4 of them....

Dun worry about the first game! Yes, it was frustrating, but we all love the lilywhites dun we!...let support them all the way!! in good and bad times....

andyk 13-08-2007 06:01 PM

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Yeah,BRO,i admitted that i was went overboard with the loss last sat ! Not because i lost betting but because i really & truly a die hard SPURS fan !!! The results can really affect me !

Really liked to see HUDDS more often & ZOKORA having a stronger control of the midfield & JENAS working much.much harder next time !

Same here,i much prefer BERBA & BENT & KEANE playing behind them,that'll be the best ! Playing DEFOE will be a tough call !

Will look forward to the Everton game then ! Cheers ! :)

hawksbay 13-08-2007 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Castrol (Post 2206818)
sorry bro, i was referring to the 2nd leg against sunderland in white hart lane... :p

k bro i will remind u of that.u smartass:D

_AXL_ 13-08-2007 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Castrol (Post 2206818)
sorry bro, i was referring to the 2nd leg against sunderland in white hart lane... :p

which season???:rolleyes: next game also not going to be easy as well.


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