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GTTTT 18-02-2016 01:30 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter (Post 14230925)
Im actually PRO bia om solo...firstly the pro for going solo
1 you dont have to fight over choice of girls
2 as its you and her/s, with no spectators or observers the girls are wilder and less inhibited inside the room
cons'
1 if you arent a ladies man and dont know how to entertain a girl or get her laughing with your lame jokes tehn it can be awkward
2 the cost MAY be higher, ie some places charge a hourly rate 300-400khr, you cant share the mommy tips 200-500k, you cant share the obligatory fruit plater costs of 100-200k, but its better to go solo and carry those costs, then go with guys u barely know who are heavy drinkers, whilst u drink very little, or who are too shy to interact with teh girls but expect the girls to initiate and just sit tehre drinking or god forbid sing badly...then dont forget the easy guys who say YES to every request the girl makes to inflate your bill....then at the end of teh night not only do u have to share their portion of the beer they imbibed, but effectively they ahve cocked blocked all your attempts to "beast" your girl as whenever you attempt to get sexual with your girl she will get all shy with the spectators and will remind you how gentlemanly your "frens" are and why must you be so "dam tac". So end of teh night not sure how much money u have saved but definately your enjoyment has been curtailed

Yeah I agree too. Groupings where you don't know the other guys well and have not explicitly set down rules of conduct normally end with somebody being a pain in the ass. Of course it's better and more fun all around when it's all brothers with the same playing style. We want wingmen, not cock blockers! Haha. :D

Wendella 18-02-2016 02:00 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter (Post 14230925)
So end of teh night not sure how much money u have saved but definately your enjoyment has been curtailed

Good points by someone with obviously more experience in those places than myself. My own visits to those have just been different degrees of disaster. I tried solo ONCE. This was a now-gone place on Nguyen Phi Khanh street. I was taken to a room and beers brought in. I tipped mamasan 200,000 at the outset, which I'd been told was wise, and which was the going rate to get good service in those days. A lineup was brought in and it was really sub-par, nothing interesting basically. Afternoon here by the way, not sure it matters or not. I selected one of them who was barely ok. She sat down and we started having the beers and fruit. I think I'm (at least on this occasion) in the category of not being a ladies man because I was not able to get any fun going, and she wasn't really trying either. She was not initiating anything, and my efforts were pushed away. After about an hour it was obvious that this was a dead end, nothing to be salvaged. I didn't want her phone number, she was no fun to be with. I got my bill, and with tips and everything it cost over a million. So for a no-fun-at-all visit, it cost me that much. On the way out I was able to see much cuter young girls than were in my lineup sitting around in the hallway.

I've had at least one visit that was like you describe, with a group, big bill and no fun, I got there later and when it came time for me to get a girl they just kept bringing in one unattractive one, they did that a few times until I just accepted they had no cute girls available. Then a guy who came after me, they brought in a cute one to show him and he got her, so it was pretty frustrating.

I went to one with just one Vietnamese guy -- he got the fun, I got the butterfly who kept leaving the room and not coming back. I was the one paying, treating my VN friend. It reached the point of absurdity where I was just sitting there for 20 minutes watching him play with his girl, while I sat alone drinking my beer.

This next one doesn't count cuz it wasn't in Saigon, but in another small town, a few times I ran into pure ripoff situations where after we left the room, the staff opened all the remaining beer bottles in the case, I even literally caught them in the act once, and then they charged us for the whole case. Refusing to pay that inflated bill led them to grab clubs and rocks to threaten to hit us with. But I think this can only happen if you are way out there. I don't think there's a risk of anything like this happening in areas that foreigners frequent (at least I hope not).

Wendella 18-02-2016 02:57 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GTTTT (Post 14231254)
Yeah I agree too. Groupings where you don't know the other guys well and have not explicitly set down rules of conduct normally end with somebody being a pain in the ass. Of course it's better and more fun all around when it's all brothers with the same playing style. We want wingmen, not cock blockers! Haha. :D

This reminds me of some times when I went to places with buddies who really shoudl have known better.

Once was with a friend who always liked to bargain hard for everything. It was one of those girl bars on HBT when that was good and reasonably priced. I was with a girl I had met before there, he was with another girl, and me and mine sat across from he and his. Well, he liked flirting in an attention-getting way, and that led to their bargaining ("you take me hotel") and haggling over the price in a way that it was like the center of attention for the whole table, and he enjoyed the game of teasing her with comebacks to whatever she said, and also I sensed he had no intention at all of taking the girl to a hotel, but was just enjoying this teasing game. And this just went on and on and on. He just got a kick out of being an asshole, basically As this was happening, my girl whispered to me, "next time, come alone, it's better alone."

Another time with another buddy, this at Sixteen bar in district 3 (still there, I think), two of us had a couple girls at our table, and they asked for drinks which we obliged, but then they didn't exactly warm up to us after that, it was a bit difficult, our Vietnamese not really good enough to carry things. I went to use the toilet, expecting to come back and try more, and if that failed, invite different girls over. I came back to our table and the girls were gone. My friend started telling me that he got pissed off at their attitude and told them to leave, and he was still a bit heated when he was saying this, so I guess he had a bad scene with them when I was away. I was like, Dude, what the fuck. Why did you fucking do that.

And I knew both these guys well, had no reason to expect things would go this badly with them. Sometimes places like these can bring out the hidden retard in people you think you know. These and other bad experiences led me to focus on going to mongering places solo and not with friends.

Wendella 20-02-2016 11:43 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
I can't remember who it was, but someone from here posted a pic of this one here back in Sept or Oct, but at that time it was an old outdated ad.

As of today it is a new ad again.

http://danchoi.xxx/threads/93150-Siê...ộng-ACMN

this one is not my type at all, just thought I'd let the man know this one is available again. Whoever he is.

Wendella 20-02-2016 03:15 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter (Post 14239787)
the guy who posted the pic was the basement masturbator type, ie post pics of girl he would like to fuck BUT never actually does...

Uh, that can't be me, I have no basement. :D

bignround 21-02-2016 09:43 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wendella (Post 14230828)
There was someone recently reporting about the massage in Japanese area (Le Thanh Ton and Ngo Van Nam vicintiy, especially small alleys in that area) which have FS on offer for 2 million or higher. So if one is ok with a high price, this is an option.

The girl bars on Bui Vien and Do Quang Do have plenty of girls these days, more after about 9pm. I hear varying reports on their prices but maybe as low as 1 million or high as 1.5 million.

Will you be going out solo? Or with a group? It makes a big difference in what type places you want to go to. If solo, of course you don't want to go to KTV or bia om. If with a group, cafe oms are awkward if you have a few guys together. And are you aiming for bargain prices or willing to spend?

OK and this is the thread where we don't encourage talk about exchange rates and where to get good soup and such things. So if you want must-see tourist attractions, maybe better to google that so you don't start a long in-depth discussion here about family-oriented tourist attractions, which is not the topic for this forum. There is also the TCSS thread for Vietnam where they always seem happiest discussing things that are not sex-related.


Hi all the Bro who advice me. Look like hcmc is really a different playground. I will be solo. Guess I have to plan beyond Ben thanh... will go for massage, cafe oms and bar/disco. Will update all my finding after the trip

sc2c 21-02-2016 10:35 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
The last 2 articles by "Tom" is interesting, hope it does not end there. Keep it coming....

Wendella 21-02-2016 03:56 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter (Post 14239909)
Dangers of online girls

I talked with Tom about this in PM: the girl he was talking about posted an ad on a website, using a price of 500, and the same girl appears on Danchoi.xxx at 1000 price.

The danchoi ad, price 1000:

http://danchoi.xxx/threads/93103-TIỂ...Em-Mê-Gái-Non-!!

The other 500 ad: (This must be the ad that Tom responded to -- phone number matches what he reported)

http://goihang.us/showthread.php/270...-dạng-FA

Same exact photos. Descriptions are different though. Phone numbers are different.

I think the truth is that the danchoi ad is real and we now know the 2nd one on goihang is fake for sure. I think for the 500 ad, they just stole pictures from the first one. Why? Duh, she's hot.

That's my theory at least. I've seen the first one reposted on danchoi many times, back as far as November at least. And I also bookmarked the 500 ad because I wondered if it was the same girl with lower price (unlikely, I thought) or a fake ad.

The danchoi one has been on my short list of ones to try, actually.

Wendella 22-02-2016 12:02 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter (Post 14245243)
your keep on saying these are the ones on your short list but you NEVER do try or try and THEN post so others know to try or avoid the ones you have tried yourself ..that is benefit from your experience, its this selfish attitude that frankly annoys me about you and whilst we are civil to each via Pm, and especially due to our past altercations, i def dont trust you that i will share freely......and just as a indication of the perverts and freeloaders found here, after my post a mere 24hrs ago this thread has had over 2000 views....and someone accused me of wasting bandwidth?

Dude when I do a website girl I'll post about it, swear. I haven't done one in a long time. I made 2 attempts right before Tet that both got messed up cuz I didn't have passport with me. (and I reported one of those fuckups in the thread and the other told you in PM) And I do have other ones I'm seeing that aren't web ones and more personal, ones I care about basically, so not what I want to put on the thread. Also trying some cheaper options, as you know, to cut costs down. Wait so, if I haven't done any website girls in recent months, then it means you are getting annoyed by something that you are essentially imagining is so that isn't. Not meant as a put-down, but honestly I haven't done any, so, there's no reason to get annoyed. So don't be annoyed.

That's hilarious about the view count.

For others here, cuz nobody knows who he's talking about, Ha was a very cute but dark skinned cafe om girl I met before Tet, who suddenly and unexpectedly disappeared yesterday. 18, slim, firm body, perky firm breasts, great stick-out butt, and just such a cute, warm, happy personality, and cute adorable face. I miss her already. Tom thought she wasn't classy, more a village type girl. To me that part was a turn-on though. She was the farm-fresh innocent type, big time.

Wendella 22-02-2016 12:29 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
mistake post, sorry

hoian 22-02-2016 03:31 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Story of a pimp who got his just desserts. We all love stories like that. Explains the high traffic. Karma is a bitch. :cool:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter (Post 14239909)
...she then curses and swears at me, she tries to grab my shoes to hit me, then she goes out the room grabs a broom to come back to hit me...


hoianfather 22-02-2016 04:27 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
My retarded son, your condition seem to get worse, now you go after story to get high, how am i going to tell your mommy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoian (Post 14247760)
Story of a pimp who got his just desserts. We all love stories like that. Explains the high traffic. Karma is a bitch. :cool:


bignround 23-02-2016 11:15 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
To all the bro who gave me guidance.

Thanks you a lot.

Indeed hcm is a very different playground.
arrive yesterday morning, finish meeting at 4pm.
cut the story short.

Le duyen 4: gal at 7 on average. Just for the experience of it, interesting. Total abt 500k plus tip
dainam : nice spa above average syt. Took the standard room + 300k tip
Finish the night ard 1am with hopping bars in bu vien. Feel like thailand backpacker street. Just drink n talk rubbish there.

stay in new world.. hated catwalk as I stay lower floor can hear the bass of the disco. Good thing about new world I had fun disturb all the wechat gal (cheap thrill). After 10pm I just start replying to msg in wechat saying "usd100 come now" when all hear new world.. All sad smiley ...haha. but then 1 gal say can!!! pay usd20 as tip to reception sure can come up. Interesting, kopi mone always work in saigon Anyway not worthed it, many of the pic are photoshop or got ok, video call a few gals but look a bit different from pic.

As for tonight maybe thinking of going bars in D5 to check out.

Anyway cut story short. Hcm very different ball game.
Feel a bit like taiwan (taizhong n taiwan) where things tend to be more secretive. Gals wise... feel like china 20 yrs ago where the country just open up. Hungry for "sales", direct and straight to the point.

I tend to like more on gfe type of gal but I doubt it is possible in D1 if I only spend 2 nights. I guess also because I am in tourist district.
Maybe I shd try kc on proper waitress or sales gal next time to test test water.

Next trip I will try either stay park hotel near airport or D7. Found that opposite vivo city got spa offering full service for massage + 500k to 700k.

sadboy1 23-02-2016 11:30 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bignround (Post 14253696)
To all the bro who gave me guidance.

Thanks you a lot.

Indeed hcm is a very different playground.
arrive yesterday morning, finish meeting at 4pm.
cut the story short.

Le duyen 4: gal at 7 on average. Just for the experience of it, interesting. Total abt 500k plus tip
dainam : nice spa above average syt. Took the standard room + 300k tip
Finish the night ard 1am with hopping bars in bu vien. Feel like thailand backpacker street. Just drink n talk rubbish there.

stay in new world.. hated catwalk as I stay lower floor can hear the bass of the disco. Good thing about new world I had fun disturb all the wechat gal (cheap thrill). After 10pm I just start replying to msg in wechat saying "usd100 come now" when all hear new world.. All sad smiley ...haha. but then 1 gal say can!!! pay usd20 as tip to reception sure can come up. Interesting, kopi mone always work in saigon Anyway not worthed it, many of the pic are photoshop or got ok, video call a few gals but look a bit different from pic.

As for tonight maybe thinking of going bars in D5 to check out.

Anyway cut story short. Hcm very different ball game.
Feel a bit like taiwan (taizhong n taiwan) where things tend to be more secretive. Gals wise... feel like china 20 yrs ago where the country just open up. Hungry for "sales", direct and straight to the point.

I tend to like more on gfe type of gal but I doubt it is possible in D1 if I only spend 2 nights. I guess also because I am in tourist district.
Maybe I shd try kc on proper waitress or sales gal next time to test test water.

Next trip I will try either stay park hotel near airport or D7. Found that opposite vivo city got spa offering full service for massage + 500k to 700k.

how the "vivo city " like???? heard got one copy singapore one haha in name

bignround 23-02-2016 11:38 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sadboy1 (Post 14253754)
how the "vivo city " like???? heard got one copy singapore one haha in name

Logo very similar to sg vivo. Heard manage by sg company. D7 is new district, trying to develop the place to a "atas" district. Heard that certain area police cannot come in to patrol as they have not legal rights.

sadboy1 24-02-2016 12:50 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bignround (Post 14253797)
Logo very similar to sg vivo. Heard manage by sg company. D7 is new district, trying to develop the place to a "atas" district. Heard that certain area police cannot come in to patrol as they have not legal rights.

can go to the star bridge at D7 at night ^^

xiaomaomi3232 24-02-2016 06:50 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
hi guys, anyone here been to 02 gold club or lush club in hcm?

thinking of trying it after looking at their fb pages and was wondering whether the hype is worth a try.

thanks

woaivietbu 24-02-2016 03:55 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Just a FR for people who wants to know how KTV is like in HCMC.
Went on a 5 day trip from 19/2 to 23/2, did some exploring with a few friends and this is what we found.

Tried 2 KTVs in D3 and 1 in D5, beer prices seem to have become alittle more expensive comparing to the last time i went 2 years back.

1st KTV
Went to a near KTV Tran Quang Khai street at D3, beer price was 43k per can, Martell price was at 2.6m for 750ml btle. Room charges was 250k per hour. Rejected the fruit bowl as its not worth it, they have many small charges like wet tissue, snacks, soft drinks etc etc..

Playability in KTV not as happening as i thought, even though the girls we have can speak alittle english/chinese. Felt it was like our YSH KTV. But the girls sat all the way till we left, and when they say that they're going to the toilet, it literally means they are going to the toilet, unlike in SG.

Tips for girls was 500k (Which i found pricey on my end) and also had to tip mummy 500k as well.

Ended the night with a massage in Bui Vien, which I initially thought was legit. GQ popped and was offered HJ for 500k and kept rejected, eventually price was reduced to 300k.

2nd KTV
Cannot remember location but its somewhere around D3. Anyway bad experience and not recommended. Girls can't play, can't communicate.
There was a girl among them who worked in SG before, she spoiled market by asking us to tip 800k (est SGD$50) as girls stayed all the way unlike SG "butterfly". Left shortly after awhile


3rd KTV
Heard from day 1 KTV girl saying that there's better KTV along Tran Quang Khai, so i took a taxi and asked driver where's the fun KTV which he knows along the street. He brought me over and gave me advices about the place as well. Tip for girls about 200-300k. same for Mummy. He said he have been there before and prices are one of the cheaper ones.

So visited KTV at Tran Quang Khai D3, price wise similar to first day, 42k per can beer, 2.6m for Martell and 250k/hr for KTV room charge.

Mummy came in and lined up girls, both my friends took 1 each but I didnt see any i liked so I asked if there are any more. She said there wasn't any more so i just told her that i didnt want any girls. But, 10mins later she brought in a 2nd group of girls which are more to my liking. Took 1 and started the night.

Playability still isn't as wild as what i expected but more to GFE, hugs and kisses and abit of touchy-touchy. Girls were able to converse slightly better here even though none of been to Singapore before.

Girls were tipped 300k, and same for Mummy. They requested us to tip waiter so we gave 100k for waiter tip.


Overall this was the best KTV we found, but its not what we really wanted.:mad:

Hopefully next trip will be better:D

First post here, help UP if can. cam on rat nhieu

xiaozhi 24-02-2016 10:06 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sadboy1 (Post 14253754)
how the "vivo city " like???? heard got one copy singapore one haha in name

That vivo city is singapore maple tree group got invest. Inside even got 1 super market call Co op extra. Like our ntuc extra

canrec 25-02-2016 12:01 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Heading there tomorrow until Sunday alone
if any Cheong group need a kaki feel free to pm me😊

lihaojunn 25-02-2016 10:07 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bignround (Post 14253797)
Logo very similar to sg vivo. Heard manage by sg company. D7 is new district, trying to develop the place to a "atas" district. Heard that certain area police cannot come in to patrol as they have not legal rights.

Vivo City in D7 is opened and managed by Singapore company.

Many properties in D7 and also owned and managed by Singapore companies.

Wendella 25-02-2016 03:33 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by woaivietbu (Post 14256429)
Just a FR for people who wants to know how KTV is like in HCMC.
Went on a 5 day trip from 19/2 to 23/2, did some exploring with a few friends and this is what we found.

Nice detailed report, but it's too bad you didn't include the name or addresses of any of these places. I doubt anyone can locate them based on what you tell us here. It's good to get a general idea though, which is helpful in a way.

Guys who come here for just a short visit the first time often write reports like this that talk about one or a few places but omit any details that would let us find the place.

Hurricane88 25-02-2016 03:42 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wendella (Post 14260605)
Nice detailed report, but it's too bad you didn't include the name or addresses of any of these places. I doubt anyone can locate them based on what you tell us here. It's good to get a general idea though, which is helpful in a way.

Guys who come here for just a short visit the first time often write reports like this that talk about one or a few places but omit any details that would let us find the place.

nothing new...when my friends wrote without name and address a big hooha crying out...now many dun provide and nothing happened...still received applause...:)

dun mind me....well I just passing by...:)

woaivietbu 25-02-2016 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wendella (Post 14260605)
Nice detailed report, but it's too bad you didn't include the name or addresses of any of these places. I doubt anyone can locate them based on what you tell us here. It's good to get a general idea though, which is helpful in a way.

Guys who come here for just a short visit the first time often write reports like this that talk about one or a few places but omit any details that would let us find the place.

Well, its not that i don't have the address, but after reading a number of posts from the past, i've come to a realisation that many people goes there and spoil market...

Why would you want to provide addresses to people who spoils market?

If you really want the address, you can just PM me and ask for address. It will be also good that if you are able to share somewhere fun for my next trip there as well

Anyway, my post was a general FR of KTV price rates / tips etc..

Hope you do see where I'm coming from and protect the playground of those whom are willing to explore, rather then those who ate just passively obtaining information here without any effort or contribution.

Cheers!

taikoo0 25-02-2016 04:32 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Nothing new indeed, remember i wrote a few FR on KTV om without address. Your friends create a big hooha and demand that i gave them address for verification. When i refuse asking for swap of info instead, u delete all my FR...:)

dun mind me.....well I just passing by....:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurricane88 (Post 14260641)
nothing new...when my friends wrote without name and address a big hooha crying out...now many dun provide and nothing happened...still received applause...:)

dun mind me....well I just passing by...:)


Hurricane88 25-02-2016 04:37 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taikoo0 (Post 14260813)
Nothing new indeed, remember i wrote a few FR on KTV om without address. Your friends create a big hooha and demand that i gave them address for verification. When i refuse asking for swap of info instead, u delete all my FR...:)

dun mind me.....well I just passing by....:)

I just undeleted all your posts and now visible again...welcome to post here often...cheers...:)

taikoo0 25-02-2016 04:42 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Not entirely true, the street name he wrote good enough for many to locate those KTV om (most with number as signboard) and the pricing structure can be a guideline to those newbie even though pricing varies from each ktv om. Unless u want the actual shop he went then u may have to pm him, provided he wish to share.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wendella (Post 14260605)
I doubt anyone can locate them based on what you tell us here.


hoian 25-02-2016 04:43 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
These are just clones/frens/clone's frens/etc talking and upping themselves. All same MO (modus operandi)... create some fake stories... no head+tail given... eventually some newbie curiousity is piqued and they PM the grandmaster pimp called MC aka Tom-watever for more info. Then money is asked in return for more details. In mktg we call this "clickbait"... oldest trick in town.

Any fool can tell u that KTVs are the biggest tourist traps in VN. I would consider KTV only if i need to entertain big-time clients from China/Korea/Japan & all expenses can be charged to my company.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurricane88 (Post 14260641)
nothing new...when my friends wrote without name and address a big hooha crying out...now many dun provide and nothing happened...still received applause...:)


taikoo0 25-02-2016 04:50 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Hurricane88 and his gang are fans of Vn KTV Om, they often organise trip for members in this forum. Are you calling them fool too?...Lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoian (Post 14260866)
Any fool can tell u that KTVs are the biggest tourist traps in VN. I would consider KTV only if i need to entertain big-time clients from China/Korea/Japan & all expenses can be charged to my company.


Hurricane88 25-02-2016 05:17 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taikoo0 (Post 14260890)
Hurricane88 and his gang are fans of Vn KTV Om, they often organise trip for members in this forum. Are you calling them fool too?...Lol

corrections...I am not a big fan off ktv...just that when friends there with me...they need gals as companion for the night...now only way is to bring them to ktv to select...FL is not a good bet...Wechat no thanks full of scam...so left with no choice...:)

if I am alone, I live healthy and sleep early by 9pm...:)


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