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putrawk 27-08-2007 03:25 PM

Re: Tottenham Hotspur - the Pride of London
 
I am proud of the boys. They showed chararcter and created more clear cut chances compared to ManYoo. But Istill think we couldve avoided the goal if Gardner wasnt hesitant to close in on Nani and if only Robbo positioned himself better (he was was off his line). But overall it was a positve performance from the boys.

My only concern was our strikers not being able to break the jar in scoring. Keane was playing too deep and Defoe was nowhere near his best. Berbatov showed glimpses of his last season's performence but still he needs to put on his shooting boots.

Gareth bale looks like a good player and I think he should stick playing as a left back and let Taarabt play left wing. Here's my rating for yesterday's game..

Robbo-6 (could see he is eager to show his critics wrong, but were put off by his positioning that led to the goal)
Chimbo-7 (I think only he and Berbatov stand out for our team in that match)
Lee- 5 (Could've done better)
Gardner - 4.5 (Looks lazy, reponsible for the Nani goal, Rocha had to back him up a number of times)
Rocha - 6 (Gutsy, covered Gardner's slow movement)
Hudds - 5 (sublime passes but lost possesion a few times, slow)
Jenas - 5 (a shadow of himself, not like when we played Derby)
Malbranque - 5.5 (not himslef, but made up for his tireless runs)
Bale - 6.5 (did rather well for a player who have just recovered from a long term injury)
Keane - 5 (his only contribution is his complaints to the official, needs to regain his confidence)
Berbatov - 7 (Showed glimpses of his true self, expect him to score a brace against Fulham :D)
Taarabt - 5 (didnt get the ball as much as he would have liked)
Defoe -4 (non-existance)
Zokora - 5 (didnt have much time to show his capabilities)

sinfulguy 27-08-2007 03:49 PM

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It would have been different if Darren Bent had played....and provide the Follow-thru to Berbatov's toe-poke....I am sure his brute force will put the ball (together with Rio Ferdinand) into the net....Berbatove is too classy a player to barge in like that...

Castrol 27-08-2007 04:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cum_Luver (Post 2237763)
whether it was deliberate or not, if the ball hits your arm/hand in the penalty area, it is a straight penalty just like what happened during Aston Villa vs Liverpool. The ball struck Carragher's hand, it was also not deliberate, there is nothing he can do to get away from it. And the referee gave a penalty....
And that was also the explanation given by the referee...
i did not watch the match, but will be watching the replay if there is any.

My 2 cents of opinion..

well bro, if the ref blew hard for a penalty kick, i would've jumped in jubilation. it was a 50/50 decision anyway - heng or sway. some referees will let it go if the "arm ball" was not deliberate. its another matter if wes brown got a whole palm to the ball.

however i think if spurs was already a goal down when that berbatov-brown incident happened, there's a good chance the ref will point to the spot.

Castrol 27-08-2007 04:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by putrawk (Post 2237897)
Chimbo-7 (I think only he and Berbatov stand out for our team in that match)

chimbonda was really good wasnt he? its a good thing he wasnt sold to chelsea, he provided a lot of cover last nite.

i prefer to see bale on the left wing again instead of left back. he is way too quick and sharp to be standing at the back. i believe he will score from 30 yards very soon. :D

sinfulguy 27-08-2007 06:27 PM

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I think it would take a very brave Referee to give a penalty to the away team at Old Trafford.....and Howard Webb is not one of those brave ones....so sad....Berbatov was floored blatantly....no whistle at all....:mad:

JWNY 27-08-2007 07:09 PM

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agree...special rules for United at Old Trafford? Bro YY need you to verify :D

Vidic definitely nailed Berbatov down after Bale's through pass...and if that was not enough, Wes Brown goal line clearance was definitely...ARM!

As for those special rules... http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...manuvspurs.jpg

just joking

JWNY

qbdp 28-08-2007 03:01 AM

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Bro Castrol and Putrawk, big effort from Spurs on Sunday. From the post match interview, it seems like Jol is feeling the pressure. Hopefully Jol will be given more time to turn the results around.

hawksbay 28-08-2007 04:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Castrol (Post 2237959)
well bro, if the ref blew hard for a penalty kick, i would've jumped in jubilation. it was a 50/50 decision anyway - heng or sway. some referees will let it go if the "arm ball" was not deliberate. its another matter if wes brown got a whole palm to the ball.

however i think if spurs was already a goal down when that berbatov-brown incident happened, there's a good chance the ref will point to the spot.

there s no such thing "arm ball" it was a penalty no doubt abt it.:p

Castrol 28-08-2007 05:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hawksbay (Post 2238872)
there s no such thing "arm ball" it was a penalty no doubt abt it.:p

yes mr fifa president! :D

qbdp 29-08-2007 12:16 PM

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Spurs and Chelsea in a swap deal involving SWP and Defoe?

putrawk 29-08-2007 02:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qbdp (Post 2241648)
Spurs and Chelsea in a swap deal involving SWP and Defoe?

I thought Defoe is going to sCUNThorpe? :D

Castrol 29-08-2007 03:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qbdp (Post 2241648)
Spurs and Chelsea in a swap deal involving SWP and Defoe?

i prefer spurs keep defoe... :D

sinfulguy 29-08-2007 04:00 PM

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I feel the same way too....with a long season ahead and european games....strikers may get injured.....and Defoe is not too bad a striker to have on the bench....frankly, he lacks match sharpness....Martion Jol should start him for games against "weaker" opponents....

Castrol 30-08-2007 09:12 AM

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alamak... spurs missed out again. well at least we still can watch riquelme play for a.madrid on tv, we wont see him if he joins boca. :D

MADRID, Aug 29 (Reuters) - Villarreal's Argentina midfielder Juan Roman Riquelme has agreed to sign a two-year deal with Atletico Madrid, Spanish radio station Cadena Ser reported on Wednesday.

There was no official comment from either club, but Cadena Ser said sources close to the player had confirmed the deal.

The 29-year-old playmaker fell out with Villarreal coach Manuel Pellegrini midway through last season and was loaned out to his former club Boca Juniors. He went on to inspire the Argentine side to their sixth Libertadores Cup crown.

putrawk 30-08-2007 12:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Castrol (Post 2242854)
alamak... spurs missed out again. well at least we still can watch riquelme play for a.madrid on tv, we wont see him if he joins boca. :

No worries there bro. I have received a transfer gossip alert email from 'News Of The World' saying that Spurs are looking at 4 players before the window closes tmrow. And MJol said he is certain at least 2 will join before midnight of 31st Aug.

TOTTENHAM - Gossip In - 1)Guti to sign a 3 year contract after realizing he has limited playing opportunity at Real Madrid. Cost - 2.5Mil.m -----2)Samir Nasri's future with Marseille looks to be at the tail end as Internazionale, Valencia, Lyon, Arsenal and Tottenham are targetting the 20 year old, considered as the 'new Zidane'. He could play on the left or dictate play from the center of Midfield. Likely to cost a bomb - 15-18Mil. ------3)Shaun Wright-Phillips has said that he wants to leave Chelsea for Spurs but the White Hart Lane board of directors are reluctant to see Jermain Defoe leave, as a straight swap is on the cards. It is reported that Spurs want 4Mil plus the swap deal. Certain sectors of the board are more interested in a straight swap between Defoe and Chelsea flop, Andriy Shevchenko as Martin Jol are would love to have 4 strikers rather than 3 if Defoe leaves. ------4)This rumour is forever. Spurs are ready to up their bid for Curtis Davies. WBA want 12 Mil for the player but Spurs are likely to only offer 9Mil for the defender. ------5)Jermaine Jenas has signed a new 5-year contract that could see him play for Spurs till the end of his career. Oh my, oh my!

TOTTENHAM - Gossip Out - 1)Danny Murphy might leave Spurs for a season as Derby and Fulham want him on loan.----- 2)Hossam Ghaly could fly back to the Netherlands to play for Vitesse Arnham. But the deal looks unlikely as they are not prepared to pay Spurs a single pence for the curly-haired Egyptian. -----3)Derby, Sunderland, Everton, Middlesborough, Fulham, Aston Villa, Portsmouth and Birmingham are a number of clubs interested in professional bench-warmer Wayne Routledge. He might cost the clubs 3Mil. ------4)After failing to lure Dimitar Berbatov, Sir Alex Ferguson has shifted his intention to sign Jermain Defoe for 10Mil. Sir Alex has only Carlos Tevez fit upfront with Wayne Rooney and Louis Saha are down with injuries and Ole Gunnar Solksjaar's retirement from the game. Aston Villa and Portsmouth too are in the hunt for Defoe.





I dunno man. Spurs are known to sign players at the last minute so anything can happen. I like the prospect of signing Guti and Nasri but I find it hard to believe or should I say, wishful thinking. :)

Castrol 30-08-2007 01:17 PM

Re: Tottenham Hotspur - the Pride of London
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by putrawk (Post 2243397)
I dunno man. Spurs are known to sign players at the last minute so anything can happen. I like the prospect of signing Guti and Nasri but I find it hard to believe or should I say, wishful thinking. :)

wow guti and samir nasri !!! thats 200% creativity in central midfield. but why they want to offer jenas a 5 year contract is beyond me.

hawksbay 31-08-2007 05:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Castrol (Post 2243478)
wow guti and samir nasri !!! thats 200% creativity in central midfield. but why they want to offer jenas a 5 year contract is beyond me.

well bro thats cos they wanna fininish 5th again:D told u roman will not come to spurs,he noes it will be tough in the epl opps i mean bpl but guti n nasri awesome but only if u can get them:p

Schaumburg 02-09-2007 04:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hawksbay (Post 2244734)
well bro thats cos they wanna fininish 5th again told u roman will not come to spurs,he noes it will be tough in the epl opps i mean bpl but guti n nasri awesome but only if u can get them

5th you sure anot looking at the replay I think spurs may not even get any euro soccer next season! So many good player but super lousy defence!

Castrol 03-09-2007 11:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hawksbay (Post 2244734)
but guti n nasri awesome but only if u can get them

guti scored the last goal for real madrid last night in a 5-0 thrashing of villareal. r.madrid will be a fool to let him go.

liverpool walloped derby county 6-0 with fernando torres in shiny form. spurs also managed 6 goals in craven cottage but shared the goals with fulham. :D

fulham 3 spurs 3

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/7178858_7_1.jpg
Tottenham's Dimitar Berbatov celebrates with team mate and captain, Robbie Keane after scoring. Incedibly both teams played to a 3-3 draw.

3-1 up in 60+ mins but spurs blew the wind away. to be fair, fulham is a fighting team this season.

lungless 04-09-2007 11:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Castrol (Post 2251283)

liverpool walloped derby county 6-0 with fernando torres in shiny form. spurs also managed 6 goals in craven cottage but shared the goals with fulham. :D

fulham 3 spurs 3

Haha, good one bro!!:D I strongly believe Spurs will be on the upp from now on! Go you Lilywhites!!

putrawk 04-09-2007 04:15 PM

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3-3. Same old, same old. Again our defence let us down. We look at our defence, player by player we have perhaps the most complete defenssive lineup. Imagine if everyone is fit, Chimbo, King, Daws, Bale...thats a four star backline. But you have 2 key players injured and we have Kaboul, Gardner and Rocha. No disrespect to them, but I felt we were a bit lightweight in defence for that Fulham game. Kaboul is an OK player, but Gardner?? Good old sloppy Anthony Gardner. sigh... I just think that the defence dont really have that understanding. Even if Gardner plays, we stilll have one of the meanest defence on paper. But what to do? no understanding, no concentration...Now, I have doubts with Robbo too. We couldve at least avoided the last 2 goals. Sigh (again)....

And I wish all the best for Danny Murphy who have joinned Fulham. Its a good deal for him coz from now on, he would get discounts from Al-fayed's Harrods. :D (on the 2nd floor theres a designer wig department- suitable for the hair-losing Murphy)..LOL

Schaumburg 04-09-2007 05:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by putrawk (Post 2254143)
3-3. Same old, same old. Again our defence let us down. We look at our defence, player by player we have perhaps the most complete defenssive lineup. Imagine if everyone is fit, Chimbo, King, Daws, Bale...thats a four star backline. But you have 2 key players injured and we have Kaboul, Gardner and Rocha. No disrespect to them, but I felt we were a bit lightweight in defence for that Fulham game. Kaboul is an OK player, but Gardner?? Good old sloppy Anthony Gardner. sigh... I just think that the defence dont really have that understanding. Even if Gardner plays, we stilll have one of the meanest defence on paper.

Eer your understanding of meanest defence is really weak! :rolleyes:

Castrol 04-09-2007 05:03 PM

Re: Tottenham Hotspur - the Pride of London
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by putrawk (Post 2254143)
And I wish all the best for Danny Murphy who have joinned Fulham. Its a good deal for him coz from now on, he would get discounts from Al-fayed's Harrods. :D (on the 2nd floor theres a designer wig department- suitable for the hair-losing Murphy)..LOL

watching the fulham game, i think the main problem is midfield. the midfielders are not doing enough to protect the defence.

murphy should get a wig for martin jol. maybe it will add some flair (hair!) to spurs. :D

lungless 04-09-2007 05:07 PM

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I think we got to give Robbo a rest sometime soon. When i was playing competitively in youth set up, having an influential keeper helped alot in our understanding. I guess it must be the same with the professionals. A good keeper will be able to communicate well with the players in front of him and instill confidence in them too. I cannot blame the defenders at times as sometime they do not see better than a keeper. And a keeper must command his penalty box during free kicks and corner kicks to be effective. I'm not blaming Robbo totally but just viewing Spurs weakness from another perspective.

And im beginning to feel comfortable with Spurs now, although the results do not show for now. Im sure Spurs will be on the upp soon!:D Give JOL a chance to see thru the season. From there we will be able to fairly see where is our strong points and shortcomings...(a new manager might not be a good thing too - see LYON now and how they were 6 six ago?)

lungless 04-09-2007 05:11 PM

Re: Tottenham Hotspur - the Pride of London
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Castrol (Post 2254260)
watching the fulham game, i think the main problem is midfield. the midfielders are not doing enough to protect the defence.

murphy should get a wig for martin jol. maybe it will add some flair (hair!) to spurs. :D

Yup you are right bro...midfielders must help defend from the front too...if Spurs are to improve it must be the whole team entirely - Communication is the key and Heart (strong will) will be our compass to strive ahead. Good solid communication will translate to better teamwork too...

Castrol 04-09-2007 05:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lungless (Post 2254273)
I think we got to give Robbo a rest sometime soon. When i was playing competitively in youth set up, having an influential keeper helped alot in our understanding. I guess it must be the same with the professionals. A good keeper will be able to communicate well with the players in front of him and instill confidence in them too.

i agree with that. unfortunately robinson is quite the quiet man.

i am sure spurs will do very well as usual in home games but the away form will be a great concern from now.

pakchik69 05-09-2007 05:12 PM

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Seem to hear the same familiar quotes from past seasons. 'got to defend better at set-pieces and corners'; 'controlled the game'; 'only ourselves to blame'; 'created many chances' etc...Getting tiresome hearing them excuses:mad: Lose means lose.

lungless 05-09-2007 05:27 PM

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Don’t Believe the Hype - by David Float

A great article...must read for all Spurs supporters!

http://www.thfclatest2-matchreports.com/blog/?p=6

putrawk 06-09-2007 03:09 PM

Re: Tottenham Hotspur - the Pride of London
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pakchik69 (Post 2255833)
Seem to hear the same familiar quotes from past seasons. 'got to defend better at set-pieces and corners'; 'controlled the game'; 'only ourselves to blame'; 'created many chances' etc...Getting tiresome hearing them excuses:mad: Lose means lose.

U sound bitter pakchik. And u are right too. But I guess, a good manager always comes up with excuses. Here are some samples: "No, I did not see it. The assistant ref might have blocked my view" by Arsene Wanker, "All they do is park a double decker bus in front of their goal" by Jose, "Well, thats football, sometimes a goal is not a goal" Sir Alex, and my fav, "So what if I have 5 strikers upfront (which includes midfielders Illie Dumitrescu, Nicky Barmby and Darren Caskey)? We won didnt we" by Ossie Ardiles...yeah we won that match but lost 19 more! LOL

DeKuip 07-09-2007 10:58 PM

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sorry bro castrol.. borrow ur thread to release my frustration. :mad:

also i wanna congratz u coz Berbatov will score again Holland tomolo..

Just now i saw the starting 11 of Oranje tomolo.. all i can say is dumb dumb dumb.. Mr van Basten is a good player but when come to coaching.. he is really stupid! Why?? Let me tell u why..

Demy de Zeeuw and John Heitinga will start as the last defend.. van Basten really think Berbatov is a small potato striker.. u will see that dirty Heitinga receive red any time.. and why de Zeeuw?? Seedorf is much better!!

That Hunterlaar is dropped i dont mind coz he only score against small club.. big match he cant prove anything... but prof van Basten will start with Nigel de Jong.. again de Jong hasn't proved anything yet.. now Ibrahim Afellay playing top form why van Basten dropped him?? He never realize the midfield combi of Affelay, Seedorf en Sneijder will be the strogest?!!

Van Basten oso never realize why Oranje onder him cant score.. why Hiddink can bring a high scoring team??!!

I dont think Oranje will make it to EC final next year with prof van Basten... it will be a bore summer for me. :(


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