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evilsuns 21-03-2016 10:20 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big_daddy (Post 14350059)
Yup, i am also going for a chionging trip this June,

The information available is scattered and not readily available.

Heard of some massage parlours in District 7, Phu My Hong offering full services,

Dui Vien with the hostess bars,... but like not full or comprehensible information...

yes bro there is a few in phu my hung, i used to visit 1 of those when i am single lolx,yesterday just when ride around and it is still there.:D:D

tianziii 21-03-2016 08:41 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Hi bros,

I am back with a short 3 days trip, didn't do much,so I just conclude with a quick FR.

Day 1 -
Touched down and decided to go for a Spa. Referred to bro H88's guide, went Dai Nam Hotel [2], it is behind the hotel but just ask the concierge and you will be directed.

Facilities - 8/10, very clean and well maintained
Foot Massage - 9/10, excellent, I would go back to this MP bcos of this.
Girl - Looks - 8.5
Figure - 8/10
Playable - 6/10, cannot french, didn't take off top, tried very hard to put my hand in but uniform didn't allow much auto roam.
HJ - 5/10, No skill at all...
Conclusion - If you want to go for syt with looks and figure, good place. If you want service and not time watching, think twice. (I saw many girls walked around, all 8-8.5/10 type)

Dmg - Facilities - 300k
Girl - 400k tip
Foot Massage - 100k tip

Day 1 night - Went google and found Napolis (D3), a live band with pretty PRs. A pity I went too late at night so all the pretty ones were taken by japs/chinese. Also because I went solo, I don't want to open bott, so no motivation for girls to join me at the bar.

Excellent place for chillout and company, a pity girls don't really speak english (as advised by bros here outside D1 hard to find), so I chat with bartender.

Chillout/Band - 8/10
Girls - 8/10

Went back hotel, cannot tahan the "see-cannot-touch" feel at Napolis, tried out wechat (yes, against all advice). Deal at 1.3 mil for ST. She came in 10 min, looks (7/10) and pic (9.5/10) machiam totally different... Well, I asked for it, so experience abit loh.

Day 2 -
After last experience, decided that MP is still the best, so I ventured around, and found that :
a) D.max 1 [1] - no longer hair saloon
Address: 9A, Ton That Tung Street, Pham Ngu Lao Ward, District 1, Ho Chi Minh City
- Closed, yes I thought it meant no longer hair salon but become MP.
b) Le Duyen 3 [1]
Address: 46, Bui Thi Xuan Street, Ben Thanh Ward, District 1, Ho Chi Minh City
Cannot be found, supposed to be upstairs a Korean restaurant but I couldn't locate it upstairs.
Also walked past:
c) Duyen Dang 1 [1], Duyen Dang 3 [1], Le Duyen 4 [1], My Anh [1] All are hair salons with pretty girls, didn't try because I assumed they are those teasers that only want tips.

End up fed up, went to a massage place near Apocalypse (near my hotel) and got a massage...

Girl - Looks - 7.5/10
Figure - 7/10
BBBJ - 8/10

I was surprised she go straight to bbbj me when I was still asking her how much. After that then I know.... She quoted me 1 mil for her "massage baby"! I told her 1 mil can get me a ST, and paid her 400k.

Massage - 300k
Girl - 400k

Conclusion
Well, being a first time solo-er, I thought I explored quite abit. Though more disappointment, I found myself more exposed to the hcmc sex industry culture. I am open to more exploration in hcmc in future, and definitely won't back down because of 1-2 mishaps. Afterall, that is what adventure is about :cool:

hoian 22-03-2016 02:17 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
My experience at VD was much better. First visit, pretty gal with huge D-cup knockers. Asked for 500 for hj, I said ok (knowing full well its above mkt rate). Got her wechat contact...tcss... became "friends" soon after. Subsequent visits, she don't even bother asking how much. I pay her whatever i have...between 300-400.

She's my regular gal for a reason. She allows me to take out her huge knockers to do whatever I want... fingered her too. Very cute and jovial gal, even dancing and singing while giving me a hj... and with her huge knockers its usually over in 5 mins before I unload.

She's usually my last stop to empty my reservoir and get rid of loose change before I head to the airport.

From what she told me, the gals there are carefully hand picked for: (1) massage skills (2) Looks. I tend to agree from the looks of it.

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Originally Posted by tianziii (Post 14365889)
Referred to bro H88's guide, went Dai Nam Hotel [2]...Conclusion - If you want to go for syt with looks and figure, good place. If you want service and not time watching, think twice. (I saw many girls walked around, all 8-8.5/10 type)


GTTTT 22-03-2016 02:46 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Dear seniors,

Can advise how much damage expected for Karaoke room and tips in D7?
Want to try but dun want to get scammed/overtip.

Thanks in advance. :D

GTTTT 22-03-2016 05:30 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter (Post 14369454)
firstly im not even sure of any d7 kareoke with girls...im sure there maybe one its just i never looked in that area, i think tehre is a new kingdom kareoke which is a clean type u bring ur colleagues etc, in all the years i have been here def noone has reported going kareoke in d7, finally in most districts there will be different levels of ktv, budget or high class, how do we know which one u intend to go to, and even so as its a area thats not known for ktv lets say i say 2mill and tips 300k, just like your experience at npk, what happens when they demand more...u know enough viet to ask the price before, u know how to handle it when if u are scammed after the fact? ...you were told how much at npk and u still overpaid and then your excuse was too much pressure, so for all the reasons i mentioned already, i think ur question is a fools errand

Ahh.. No reports shouldn't mean nobody has gone before right? Maybe people just lazy to FR. Haha. Anyway I just want expected damage for a budget Ktv.

I don't like and don't want to overpay. I'm not the type to tip like boss. But if mamasan can negotiate better than me and scam me than power to her. I lan lan (coz I don't want to make a big fuss over 100k.. If more I turn and walk away).

I explore these places for the fun & experience. Why does it seem you don't want people to try? :/

Btw, I choose D7 coz I intend to stay there and explore the area this upcoming trip. Previously I based myself at D10. I'm sure you know that area has many ST hotels and Ktvs and FS massage shops (1.3m price). Seems targeted at Taiwanese biz-man from what I gather from girls and mamasan.

GTTTT 22-03-2016 05:51 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter (Post 14369584)
show me where i said for you not to try and explore, im telling you that given your broad request, and the lack of any reports, then what u are asking is a fools errand, and so if i ask you hey i wanan eat beef, how much should i pay...can u give me a suitable answer with such a question, and next i would say that THERE isnt many ST hotels in the area u mention, there are lots of hotels in the foreigner part of d7, but no ST hotels, i havent seen any KTV but then i wanst really looking, and there are a FEW FS places, def much less than in the past, i think u will find things much less than what you anticipate being in d7, if you thought d10 was underwhelming, then d7 will be much more so....i for one do much more activities in d10 than d7...as to taiwanese guys i see mostly koreans and this is confiormed by the korean signage

Let me clarify about the ST hotels/Ktv/FS shops. Those are in D10 (area around Cali hotel mainly). I said I based myself there last trip and that's what I found there.

Wendella 22-03-2016 08:41 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Hey guys, there are actually a bunch of D7 ST hotels cross from RMIT on Nguyen Van Linh. I have seen karaokes in D7, on NVL east of Nguyen Thi Thap for example, and on streets in that area, but NO IDEA what is on offer, quality level, etc.

Wendella 22-03-2016 10:30 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter (Post 14370436)
was its a kareoke or a "kareoke" u know with all the "sign"s...i know there are a bunch of ST hotels all over d7, what i posted was i thought he meant d7 the "area" designated for all the korean and foreigner expats....by the time u get down to RMIT i beleive its already Binh Chanh and its no longer d7

Uh, I don't understand your karaoke question. :)

Guess what. I just checked Google Maps. RMIT and the little area cross NVL from it with all the ST hotels actually both are still in D7. It's past the big red bridge when you are in Binh Chanh. And actually something I always wondered about, that Truong Son area that everybody calls D8, THAT whole area is actually Binh Chanh, technically speaking. Duong So 9A with the big palm trees, all the way up to the roundabout and past up as far as the bridge, that's all Binh Chanh. Cross the bridge and OK that's D8 again.

Anyway, back to the D7 ST hotels, they're pretty nearby and convenient if you are in Phu My Hung area and need them. I have used some. Inside they feel fresher and more airy than ST hotels in other parts of the city. The ones I went to don't require any ID.

GTTTT 23-03-2016 10:41 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Hey Wendella, thanks for the input.

Pls guys, I'm still hoping for a ballpark estimate for budget Ktv.
Doesn't matter D7 or not right? (Is there a big difference between districts?)
Thanks.

hoian 23-03-2016 12:15 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
As long as you are a foreigner, walking into a KTV is like a lamb going for slaughter. Perhaps you are fluent in tv and can visit one of those family-ktvs meant for locals. :p

U might have better luck in those noisy discos/clubs. At least u can watch the sexy DJ shaking her boobs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTTTT (Post 14372174)
Hey Wendella, thanks for the input.

Pls guys, I'm still hoping for a ballpark estimate for budget Ktv.
Doesn't matter D7 or not right? (Is there a big difference between districts?)
Thanks.


Wendella 23-03-2016 12:15 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter (Post 14370774)
what im saying is are the kareoke u mention normal kareoke, or are they bia om, has this been verified with actual facts or at least with the usual tell tale signs?, as i see lots of new kareoke turning up like the new kingdom on NTT that are clean...as to the RMIT distiction, thats not my point, the point i was making was the original poster made a point which i misunderstood, in that he said the area in d7 that is the expat area has lots of ST hotels, i said there arent, u dont need to go out to RMIT area as on NTT has plenty of ST hotels..my point is RMIT is already pretty far, its kinda a pointless distiction saying that RMIT is d7 but 50m down the road it becomes binh chanh...the point is ist FAR out of the usual expat areas which was what the original point

True I can not vouch for if they are bia om ktv or family ktv. I'm not a ktv guy. I saw at least ONE small Korean ktv in the area near Skygarden. Name was O2. Hot girls in sexy dresses, confirmed. One of the side streets on the right side, Cao Trieu Phat.

MC, the hotels I mention are just 1.5km from the expat area. That's closer and quicker to get to than NTT. The main expat area of D7 includes the square area near Skygarden and also other side of NVL, Phu My Hung, the area that has all the fast food places, Starbucks, Panorama, the 2 big malls (Vivo City, Crescent) etc. The RMIT area is a nice quite area. NTT is a shabby, very local-style overcrowded area. OK there are NOT many mongering options in Phu My Hung, correct. There are FS MPs near SG (on premises, no need for hotel) and also at least the one Korean ktv I mentioned.

Anyway the guy isn't even keen on D7 so probably no reason for us to get to the bottom of this one.

GTTT, a couple of members here put up some reports on typical KTV prices. One was by Ecchi. Other was McLovin@. Try to search on their reports and I think you will find what you need. Maybe as far back as September 2015 though.

Hurricane88 23-03-2016 12:50 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
The question is why must chiong Ktv in d7...not that you are very far away from hundreds of Ktv in d1, d5, d3, d10...,:confused::confused:

GTTTT 23-03-2016 01:46 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurricane88 (Post 14372626)
The question is why must chiong Ktv in d7...not that you are very far away from hundreds of Ktv in d1, d5, d3, d10...,:confused::confused:

True... I can chiong anywhere lah. May as well stay in singapore to chiong geylang. Also viet bu everywhere. Hahaha.
Well, it's my pet project to try out areas I have never tried. Already explored 1/3/5/10, so next area to see is D7.
Hmm say... What's the difference between Ktv in D10 vs D7? Hmm let me test this out next trip ok. :P

GTTTT 23-03-2016 02:16 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter (Post 14373013)
why not start cuc chi then work yoru way inward hahah, then u will really be exploring, now u just asking for peoples advice then fake explore

Already done cu chi lah. FR on that is in tripadvisor. This is Sammyboy forum you know. Lol

Luke0skywalker 23-03-2016 11:59 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
It's incredible how you guys manage to know these massage joints and hookers personally in an ocean of 10 million humans in HCMC.

HCMC is full of dense neighborhoods with narrow alley ways, where people hang out, eat, sleep, sell foods. It's not easy to navigate. That area is probably 5 to 6 miles from district 1 with horrific traffic. It's not feasible for mongers unless they live in HCMC.
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Originally Posted by TomMAffolter (Post 14342142)
FYI i did know abt sakura, just didnt the name, i just know the location of places, but when u said tehre was anotehr one new a4, i went and verified, i just didnt want to sound like a know it all and say yep i know it to everything you bring up.


Luke0skywalker 24-03-2016 12:00 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
The girls of district 10

This area of Su Van Hanh and LE Hong Phong now seems to be well-known to mongers, domestic and foreign, with enough girls, ST hotels, HTGDs, KTVs, bars, cafes, food, even a large hospital nearby ect. To become a lively entertainment area.

Guys with pulls should petition local government to turn it into a red light district. The big question is what to do with that huge pagoda, which claims to be the National Pagoda? Perhaps the monks can move to the National Jungle where nobody will disturb their religious practice.

Make way for the poor girls to make a living and good Karma will bring them lots of wealth, fame, girls, bliss and happiness in their incarnated life.

big_daddy 25-03-2016 12:34 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by evilsuns (Post 14363528)
yes bro there is a few in phu my hung, i used to visit 1 of those when i am single lolx,yesterday just when ride around and it is still there.:D:D

Hi bro, don't mind to share the experience, name of the place and cost there?

I will post FR after going for the sexxion

big_daddy 25-03-2016 12:51 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter (Post 14373013)
why not start cuc chi then work yoru way inward hahah, then u will really be exploring, now u just asking for peoples advice then fake explore...as to prices, just think what you pay in singapore max amount, because when you factor in no vietnamese, mommy being a better negotiator as you put it, in a expat/vk area, being chopped for being a foreigner etc etc, then if its cheaper you will be suprised, you want to test and explore thats great i applaud you, but come here ask a bunch of questions then using those answers, i think that will bias you test, so in the spirit of your tests, you should be going in without bias

"Why not start cuc chi then work your way inwards"

This is a good one!

Maybe he can find some unexploded munitions! Ha ha ha

big_daddy 25-03-2016 01:45 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter (Post 14379249)
you originally posted that you "heard" that there was those shops in this area blah blah, so ill leave the address reveal to whoever you originally "heard" that from...as to the price i believe it is now 1.5m a shot, i only went and checked one shop out, IMO for that price and the quality of the girls, its not worth it...maybe some other shops have better girls but given that i can get 8's for 5-600k freelancers ie 1/3 of the price, or 800k for girls in shops, ie 1/2 teh price, they would need to be very special for me to pay what was asked.

Wow, luckily you shared the cost ... 1.5m is cut throat....

That is the problem of "hearing" from some unfamiliar sources...

The results are not good compared to those who actually have the experience of going there.

Wendella 25-03-2016 10:10 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
FYI, thought I would mention that Luke from the other forum has no awareness of posts being made here in his name. So we can disregard those. Just some clone re-posting what he wrote in the other forum.

Wendella 25-03-2016 10:23 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big_daddy (Post 14379128)
Hi bro, don't mind to share the experience, name of the place and cost there?

I will post FR after going for the sexxion

Not sure if anyone will want to pursue this but just to answer the question, if you go to the D7 Phu My Hung area, there's a big apartment complex called Skygarden. These MPs are in that area. On Nguyen Van Linh there's a Thai restaurant on corner called Nathalie's. Go into that main road, take it all the way to the back, the last road (there's also a gated community ahead but that's too far, not there). Make a RIGHT turn and on the left side of street will be a couple of these places. One is called Na Li. The other is called Queen Bee. There was one more on this street but appears to be closed now (Gia Han, formerly Queen). On the next narrow parallel street, on the side nearer to Skygarden, there's another one. And if you carefully go through all these little side streets, I think you will probably find a few more. Last time I checked, the price was 1.3 million all inclusive. Tom reports 1.5 million so maybe he went there after I did, (that was a few months ago). I saw a few acceptably cute ones but I didn't see any that seriously tempted me to pay that price.

Luke0skywalker 25-03-2016 01:35 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Wendella from ISG forum has no awareness of posts being made here in his name. So we can disregard those. Just some clone re-posting what he wrote in the other forum. The fake Wendella in this forum is a hypocrite and hooligan.

kangoo-georgie 25-03-2016 03:31 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Anyone in tan phu...any field report....???

Wendella 25-03-2016 09:40 PM

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Luke0skywalker 26-03-2016 01:28 AM

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Luke0skywalker 26-03-2016 01:40 AM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
The cafes in back packers' district

On De Tham, at the corner of Bui Vien, there are a couple bars and and cafes worth checking out.

The newest and swankiest bar at that corner is the Crazy Buffalo. You can sit out in the sidewalk and drink beer, coffee or have food. The Crazy Buffalo looks legit, but next to it is the smaller cafe Lien and cafe Lily's across the street. Both places have a few very hot young girls, and half dozen other older women in sexy clothing, who will sit and chat with you and drink whatever you will buy.

The 2 cafes have tables and chairs on the sidewalk all night for mostly Australian guys to sit with girls, chatting away with their broken English. These girls don't always go to the hotel with every guy, but they will go with certain guys for about 1 M the ST, depending on how much they like the the guy and how he negotiates. You have to sit and chat with the girls to make your deals. There are no routine arrangements for girls and sex in Vietnam. But anything is possible and available in Vietnam if you are willing to pay. Most of these girls will fuck for money. Don't let the old guys in this thread discourage you.

8 AM there were a few guys sitting at Lily's cafe. I was trying to wake up with a glass of Saigon's famous iced milk coffee. They had tables and chairs out all night on the sidewalk and were stacking them up before the cops started coming by. There were groups of Australians in their mid 30's carousing on the street. The girls were out, giggling, yelling, trying to pull them into the cafe. Looked like they had been there before and knew each other.

An old unkempt Australian guy in his disheveled suit was sitting at the next table, looking very drunk, talking to the girls and the woman owner with his severely slurring speech. Looked like he had been out drinking all night. He wanted to pay his tab and got extremely pissed off that they had tried to cheat him by 1 drink. He refused to pay for that drink and shuffled off, swearing, cursing at the women.

The guys sitting inside the cafe were having their hands up the thighs of these girls. I was waiting for the best-looking young girl but she was not available. They tried to set me up with an older girl but I would not go for her. There are some very hot young girls at these cafes worth checking out and making deals.

Wendella 26-03-2016 04:55 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
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OK so I encountered a problem. I seem to get more problems with website girls than successes now.

I texted the girl, she replied with address of a hotel, telling me to send her room number when I have it. All good so far.

I go to the hotel. The guy tells me Het Phong. No rooms free. This seems exceedingly unlikely. He tells me to try hotel round the corner.

OK so I go over there and tell the girl via SMS that there's no rooms at her hotel, can we meet at this one here instead.

Her answer is basically that she's inside the other hotel, I have to come to that one.

UGH.

I go back to the original hotel, see a cuople leaving, go up to the desk and tell the guy, ok they just left, can I get a room? Again he tells me Het phong. Why don't I just go to the other hotel?

So I tell him that the girl (big mistake here BTW) I know said she can only meet me here at this hotel.

So he starts shaking his head in a very disapproving way and writes to me that it's impossible for me to meet a girl here at this hotel.

I must have shocked him, imagine a man and a woman meeting to be together in a room at a busy short time hotel! To think that some people would stoop so low!

Anyway, if anybody has good ideas on how to get past this numbskull, please let me know. I once had a friend get a room at this same hotel and stay overnight because it's right in my neighborhood (on 2 separate occasions actually). So I don't get what's up with the sudden blockage of foreigner.

Wendella 26-03-2016 06:36 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter (Post 14385429)
now you reap your just rewards, no good deed goes unpunished


??? This hotel is not one that foreigners go to, its in a very local style area. My friend stayed there cuz he wanted to be near my place and stay overnight (we don't have enough room at our house). And that was months ago. If you mean me promoting the websites and thus increasing foreigner visits to those hotels, well, this hotel is one I've never seen connected to website girls except this time, just recently.

I'll try again when someone else works the front desk, and maybe even get a room as if I'm gonna stay there, the way we did last time.

Wendella 27-03-2016 12:26 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter (Post 14385642)
well tehre is NO other plausible reason unless they guy just dislikes ur face...but yeah thats my point...promote websites leads to increased foreigner presence, and just because you not aware of something that doenst mean that its doenst happen...im assuming this is in d7, and im assuming you arent a participant in korean language forums so you dont know what is said or not said..or maybe some other expat took his gf there and they caused a problem...anyway liek i said i dont see how drawing foreigners to a particular place is helpful...likewise if the girl is based in d7 u taking a extra risk, based on low numbers of girls and those no incentive to be competitive in service levels

I agree, the guy was blocking me because I'm a white foreigner. And I take your broad point that promoting website girls via the forums to mongers here and ISG is probably counter-productive. I very much doubt that ISG/SBF customers had anything to do with this particular problem at this hotel, but yeah. I get what you mean about service levels. Hopefully I'll get to find out.

Last thing: this hotel is not one frequented by Koreans, it's in a VN local style area where no Koreans go.

Luke0skywalker 27-03-2016 10:20 PM

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 
This situation requires a few Vietnam experts and scholars to troubleshoot.

You should have disclosed which hotel, in which district, so we have some background info for analysis.

It appears the guy prefers not to rent to foreigners, as most foreigners can only meet prostitutes, not civies. He got upset when you mentioned a girl, because he can get into troubles with LE if he knowingly rents out rooms for prostitution.

If the main road block is the hotel, you should try other girls at known-good hotels. Foreigners have been able to rent rooms at Kathy, Hoang Ha on LE H Phong, Dung Hanh, Cali on Su V Hanh in dis 10, the A25 chain and a long list of small hotels near the long park in the back packers quarter in dis 1.

If all else fails, you can always call in ugly Wechat girls with their fake pics and loose, rotten pussies. Hehe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wendella (Post 14385234)
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OK so I encountered a problem. I seem to get more problems with website girls than successes now.

I texted the girl, she replied with address of a hotel, telling me to send her room number when I have it. All good so far.

I go to the hotel. The guy tells me Het Phong. No rooms free. This seems exceedingly unlikely. He tells me to try hotel round the corner.

OK so I go over there and tell the girl via SMS that there's no rooms at her hotel, can we meet at this one here instead.

Her answer is basically that she's inside the other hotel, I have to come to that one.

UGH.

I go back to the original hotel, see a cuople leaving, go up to the desk and tell the guy, ok they just left, can I get a room? Again he tells me Het phong. Why don't I just go to the other hotel?

So I tell him that the girl (big mistake here BTW) I know said she can only meet me here at this hotel.

So he starts shaking his head in a very disapproving way and writes to me that it's impossible for me to meet a girl here at this hotel.

I must have shocked him, imagine a man and a woman meeting to be together in a room at a busy short time hotel! To think that some people would stoop so low!

Anyway, if anybody has good ideas on how to get past this numbskull, please let me know. I once had a friend get a room at this same hotel and stay overnight because it's right in my neighborhood (on 2 separate occasions actually). So I don't get what's up with the sudden blockage of foreigner.



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