Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 

Just curious, u text in English? Or u get a local to help u text in tv?
Not really. I met some WLs while they were having dinner breaks and they gave me their Wechat contacts. Pics exactly the same. I have yet to use their services, though. Keep for a rainy day, perhaps.
I have read through the website but never had to call anyone from there. I am one of those guys that prefer familiarity. As in, when i fly into town, I arrange for a gal to meet me... someone i have known for years. I can leave my room with my valuables unlocked and when I come back, the stuff and the gal's still there. :p
The pimp and his clones/followers are quiet for now... probably in prison so it might take a while before they are let out again.

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it's standard in wechat for them to speak English with you. If I sense they don't understand some things then I switch to TV, usually with some G-translate help, keep my messages simple/slang-free/unambiguous. But 95% of the time there's no need to do this.


I'm 0 for 8 so far with one POSSIBLE real one. Not confirmed. It's not really practical to use wechat if it's that hard to connect with a real girl. I'm sure there are some real ones. But are they the real ones who offer massage openly? Maybe we are talking about 2 different things. I'm strictly talking about ones who offer sex on wechat. Also I am talking about the ones who are hotter than most you see in Wechat, ones who look like something especially worth paying that much for. I mean ones who fit both these criteria, not just one.


Sounds like you are not very familiar with this service. You go to the hotel of their choosing. So unless they are brilliant criminals, I doubt there's any way for them to get valuables from your room back at your own hotel. These girls are quite good for the price you pay. So if you ever have the desire for a quick good experience that costs just 600 or so, this is it. I haven't had enough of them to boldly state that the BJ's will be outstanding, but if the 2 I had last week were any indication, then in my years of P4P in VN, I've rarely had girls do that good a job on that.

From what I saw here he was going to Jakarta? Probably will post his experiences in the ISG thread for there, maybe here in SBF too. Yes we all need a holiday from that guy. Such a negative force. I strongly suspect that the clones are someone else. PM for that. I could be wrong as to who it is, but strongly suspect one member here.

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Think u misunderstood my meaning on this. Yes, I have zero experience with website gals and strange hotels. All I know is what I read from the Vietnamese forums.

What I was trying to say is, I would usually arrange for someone I know to spend time with me while I am in town. The advantage is that I don't have to sleep with strangers. But the downside is, I don't get so much freedom to explore other alternatives.

But our tcss is not going to benefit the others here. So let's take this offline.

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Correct HY and CN.

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That pic looks too good for D 400K to be true hehe.

You should post the full URLs of all girls who do bait and switch, so the bros can avoid them.

You should also complain to the web sites about fake pics and bait and switch so they can shut them down.

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If they care enough they will go to Kynu and easily find it themselves. The ad is obvious there.

In the perfect world, it will work.

But, alas.. We are not living in a perfect world. How many times have we seen negative FRs being posted, and then deleted from FLDome 3?

These advertisers are the brass and butter of these site owners. Don't think they will be taken down just because a few of us complained.

A little sharing on my part..

Ok, after 4D3N of companionship with my Ca Mau girl, today (or rather tonight) she took the night bus enroute back to her home town. It was already 8pm when she hopped into the mini bus that came to fetch her from Le Thanh Ton. Having had a heavy dinner (claypot chicken rice, club sandwich, Cha Gio, Hai San soup and 1 glad of orange juice at Cafe Anh which is opposite CBT), I decided to walk to Benny's. Google map says it'll take about 45 minutes, but it's not gonna stop me.

After the roundabout where there's a McDonald's drive through, you will come to a bridge. After the bridge, another about 300 m, estimate, and you'll see a lighted billboard that says Benny's. By the time I reached there, it's about 9:20pm. The ladies available there are not the youngish types. Youngest I saw should be mid 20s. Wanted her to blow me but not sure if I'm allowed to choose. Also, another curvier milf had already been "assigned" to me. Ok, no problem. Since it's my first time mongering in Vietnam (well, technically not the first time. My first was in year 2000 with a Honda girl), just chalk it up as an experience.

Immediately, she told me it's bon tram. My Vietnamese may be broken, but simple counting I'm still able to handle. Once I paid up (I thought payment is collected after the deed is done?), she looked me to the 2nd floor where there is a row of "Cannon room" where our cannon are being blown and eventually shoot off.

Well, I don't need to go through the process of how she eventually got my sperm off right? But, suffice to say, except for cim, I'm quite satisfied with her service level. With thorough car bath, bbbj, sucking of my balls, automatically losing her tops and panties for my gripping and fingering etc etc, by the time I cummed and clean up, it's already 9:45 pm. A little bit of chit chat reveals that the shop operates from 9am to 10pm daily.

Ok, so this is my attempt of sharing my one and only mongering session. I know Benny's had been talked about in the net to death already, but still hope that this fr is helpful.

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 

It is sad, the so call reputable websites even have such tactics and really tarnish the image. Even if the pics are real, the service render could be a dead fish, cannot touch here and there. We samsters are playing the tik-kum tik-kum game. If lucky you got a life fish.

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KYNU.NET doe snot advertise on this site.

I heard It charges each girl 1.5 M a month to run ads. It could take in a couple million US$ a month for the guys who run it.

The other sites, THIENDIA.COM and DANCHOI.XXX was said to take half of the girls proceeds. The guys who run these sites are raking in way too much money, it's unfair for the girls.

Perhaps some bros in Singapore can start similar sites and cash in that market.

Why did you hang out with a girl all the way from Camau? Why cant you find some pretty young girls in HCMC? Cafe Dalat Pho on Nguyen Thi Minh Khai has plenty single women hang out waiting to be hit on for free.

I only want to have all out loving sex with young, beautiful, classy girls. i fucked this sexy and sweet girl Linh Shisa in HCMC a few times. She has a beautiful body of a spinner with large natural boobs.

I was so horny with this little girl, fucked her in long sessions in just about every style and position imaginable, kissing, sucking on her tongue and her lips while she was shrieking in ecstasy.

She was a very sexy and horny young girl, not to mention very good looking. She got so wet her juice formed a foamy ring around her sexy pussy...hehehe


https://photos.google.com/search/_tr...Z9725GjdduO_Gv

https://photos.google.com/search/_tr...PYStJv0nyPXgD2

https://photos.google.com/search/_tr...VBGehcIpPkIJm9

I'm hanging out with her cos she's someone that I already knew from her working stint in Singapore and she's the reason why I'm in HCMC and not bkk which I had an air ticket for the songkran period. She's young, has a nice body but that's not important. I'm attracted to her cos of how attentive she is to me. I guess this is what Bros here refer to as KC.

As for the websites girls, there is no fair or unfair to the girls. They choose to advertise on those websites, so they have to pay their dues.

If you think 1.5m Dong is too much, then you must think that sbf is criminal for charging S$400 per month. And this is the rate 4 years ago.

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While your imagination does seem to sometimes get the better of you, I have to admit once in a while it's pretty entertaining, such as this one. :D

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Someone zapped me with this comment. Dude. That's mental. The hotel doesn't REALLY charge foreigners $100. That was just her way of saying No. It's Phu Nhuan, a much more low-traffic for-locals-only area than D10 or D8. They just didn't want to service a foreigner, period.

A thought occurred to me after I posted. When I checked in, the guy at the desk made a phone call and I heard him mention "nguoi nuoc ngoai" to the person on the other end. My theory: he might have called upstairs to that mamasan to warn her; maybe they deliberately sent the wrong girl down cuz they didn't want me to have the real one. So it is possible that the one in the photo really is at that hotel and they're just not gonna let a foreigner meet her.

BTW I am not Asian, I'm white. So it may be a rule based on race, and if that's the case then most guys here might still be able to access the girl in the photo, if she does indeed really exist.

And you know I don't think of H88 as my leader or anything, I think of him as just one more guy here, no need to obey what he tells me. That lackey attitude some here have about H88 is a bit annoying. We are all big people here, so we should each make our own choices for ourselves. And zapping anonymously does seem a bit unmanly. :) No worries though, I don't really care about points.

Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)
 

Just back from HCM. Been reading this thread for a month, thanks to those bros for contribution. A short FR to summarise the places.
Change money at Mac thi buoi, SGD1 = 16450 dong

VIC's bar (Rating: 7/10)
Visit this bar at district 3, about 15mins by taxi.
There are many Viet bu as PR, girls quality good and speak english.
Girls can rubba at the bar and most allow tabao.

Drink abt 20 bottles beer cost 2mil dong
Tips: 500K to each girl
Girls overnight asking for US$200, took her for short time instead.
In the end girl accept US$150 and stay until 8am.

Do 1 shot then we go to 24hr Tan Hai Van for their yummy wanton mee, after supper return to hotel for another shot.
She hug me to sleep until morning.
Girl quite GFE and we exchange wechat.

NPK saloon (Rating: 6/10)
Everyone been talking about this place.
Took a Vinasun cab there and walk around. Alot of shop we can walk in to choose the girl. There are a mixture of young and old girls. Asking price 500K, pick girl then pay at counter. Girl will bring us upstair to a small massage room. Girl wipe our dick with wet tissue, take off her bra so we can access her boobs. Girl then gave me a blowjob until i cum.

Overall the whole session last for abt 10 mins, don't think i will try again, would rather have GFE.

Website girls. Thanks to Wendella post (Rating: Sucks)
The whole procedure is tedious. Msg the girl and but dont understand the return msg. Lucky i tip my hotel bellboy well and ask him to help us with the messaging. Went to hotel at district 10 about 30mins by vinasun taxi (100K). Take a room and msg her the room number. Waited for about 40mins, finally girl arrived.

She look like abt 26-28 yr old, body flabby and dark skin but her photo in the website look so different, sexy body and very fair.
I try talk to her but she don't understand like chicken and duck talking.

40 mins long wait didi already buay tahan, just suck it and try. Refused to bath together, blowjob a short while, cap and fuck, see her face really couldn't cum. In the end i close my eye imagine bonking my previous day girl from VIC's bar then I manage to cum.

The whole process from her come in and leave hotel about 20 mins and the waiting time for her is 40mins. What is the most frustrating, listed price is 400K according to website but she tell me 600K. Don't want to bargain just give her 600K. Factor in hotel 100K and round trip taxi fare 200K, total i pay 900K. Will never try website girls again.

While I am trying this website girl, my friends went to Vien dong massage, they told me the girls in Vien dong are young, pretty and high playability.
This website thing is overated. Damn it, wasted my 900K.

Wechat girls (Rating: 7/10)
There are too many bad review on wechat girls so decide not to trust the photo. Walk around ben thanh market, there are some okt cycling around. One of them approach us, remember my bad experience with webste girl, I tell him if can choose girl then i ok, if cannot choose or photo then forget it.
he promise can send to my hotel room, if don't like just call him and change girl with no hassle.

Decide to give it a try. First girl come average look but too bony for my liking. Call okt and tell him to send another girl. 2nd girl come looks abt 7/10, can speak english, ask her age she tell me 22 yr old. Okt said her price more expensive 1mil. The first girl is 800K.

Have quite a good time with this girl, manage to get her bath together, no problem in communication, GFE is there, blowjob average, pump her for 15 min, tell her i tip her if cum inside her mouth which she agree. Right before i cum, pull out my dick and cap, shot into her mouth. After the deed, we took a quick bath, pay her 1mil plus 200K tips.
Overall i think wechat girls is not that bad as what have been written here. Whether website or wechat, as long as we allow to choose girl is much better than picking photo. Before she left, she gave me her personal wechat.

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I agree with this comment.
Unless we are allow to see and pick girls, photo can never be trusted.

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OK if I ask a couple questions, make comments?

what was the ST price?

You were not lucky. It's true, the website girls are a roll of the dice. (Some here say they know ways to maximize your luck). I do get duds sometimes, such as my last experience (above in thread). But I've also had a few excellent ones. But about your bad luck, only my very first time did I get one that old, never did again after that. If the ad said 400, it should be 400. You should have stuck to your guns about that. If the girl looks nothing like the picture, you should reject. You should go over there with Plans B & C and maybe D in mind in case Plan A turns out like yours did, so you can still hope to turn it into a good experience. And 40 minutes to wait is also about as bad as it ever gets. You were SUPER unlucky on your first time. It turned you off obviously, you said you don't want to try again. I'd suggest trying one at a higher price, 700 or so, to see how that goes. If you are dead set against it, ok. But believe me, you were damn unlucky with this one. And also some mistakes due to inexperience, but that's to be expected. I made same mistakes myself. But one thing you did that I would NEVER do, you decided to go ahead with a girl you weren't attracted to. I'd never do that. For me, I'd prefer to go watch tv or something than try to have sex with a girl who doesn't get me aroused. It's unpleasant, makes me feel bad. And worse if I think about how I'm paying for this bad time. At some point during I start to feel guilty even, worried about making the girl feel bad or that she'll notice I'm not attracted to her.


This one really isn't fair. You got a girl off the street basically, or through a tout, and it just happened that she had a wechat contact. That's NOT what we mean by wechat girls. We mean the ones who are on wechat with profiles that say they offer massage & sex. If you go that route, you'll find that you respond to some girl based on the photos you see in wechat, and then she comes over and looks NOTHING like that photo. That's the typical experience. You on the other hand had no expectation at all because you didn't see any photos before, you were just trusting this tout to send over something acceptable, and luckily he did. I think if you had tried to do this using the wechat app, you almost surely would not have had a happy experience.

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ST price they quote us US$120 at Vic bar

For website girls, i just share my experience. If it is a roll of dice then next time no thanks. This time i try it out of curiousity.
I waited 40 mins and imagine if i reject the girl, total loss for me 100K hotel plus 200K round trip taxi.
I rather get it done and go.

I am on a 3 day 2 night holiday, rather go for those i can see and make selection of girls. Otherwise better to relax in reputable massage place like Vien dong.
As long as you cannot see the girl before selection, how to maximize luck? Don't be naive.

Fair or not depends on how you think. Actually before my current trip i get some feedback from friends who have been there recent. Unlike me, my friend msg chat with a wechat girl he search and found nearby. It turn out to be a pimp sending a couple of photo to him.
My friend does not trust the photo so he ask the pimp to send girl to his room 1 by 1 until he see one he like. This is the strategy i adopt despite mine is from a pimp cycling in the street.

Good luck cheonging.

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I see what you mean, yes, maybe they aren't a good choice for someone here on such a short stay. Not sure if you read back in the thread as far as Oct last year, but standard MO for going to meet website girls would be to have your backup plans ready to go in case your first choice was a dud. One way to maximize luck would be to go for a higher priced ones since when they charge more, customers expect them to be good (looks/service) and they do rely on word of mouth (internet and person-to-person) to get customers. You can't read Vietnamese but that would be another way, to read reviews of the girls on the websites.

Wechat offers the girls perfect opportunity to let us customers see what they look like, but instead they always use fake pics to trick us to respond. To me that's the opposite of fun. I mean the photo means nothing then. So you are just contacting them to be sent a totally random group of girls, one by one (I HATE one by one, let me see the girls all together at once for pete's sake). And at a much higher price than is available elsewhere. So by "unfair", I just mean your experience is not really a wechat experience, you didn't use the app to set that up. You really had a street tout experience.

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I am surprise VIC still there. :D The last I stepped in was donkey yrs ago, 5 yrs??? 120usd ST for a pussy in VIC??? Might as well ask them to go n rob... anyway, there are still willing guys paying this money.

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Well it is just not worth for me. Listed price 400K and she ask for 600K because i dont speak vietnamese. Imagine if i have plan b and c girl then how many 100K hotel money i need to lose to get the girl i like?

I rather pay 1 mil to the wechat pimp so i can select the girl i want.

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:D Well as far as I know they use the same numerals in English as in Vietnamese, and in Vietnamese the cock still goes in the hole same direction, so not sure why you need to pay more for lack of language skills. I understand your frustration, I also got stuck on a foreigner-surcharge recently, and that was in one of my good experiences (see above in thread about 2 weeks ago). In my case the girl was fairly hot, and I was fairly over-ready to get the thing moving, having waited an hour that time (due to a big mix-up, we both went to wrong hotels to meet, long story)

D10 hotels should be around 50 or 60 per hr, or so I thought. Maybe you got charged extra time. But if you had gone with 700 or so priced girl, probably she would have been much more attractive. Seriously, you were unlucky to get one so old and not attractive, even for 400. Had you switched to Plan B, I think it was very probable that the next one would have been better. But it's also good to get your bad report here so people see it's not all as good as pting makes it sound. My reports are pretty mixed, I think. Some good, some bad.

Given your short time here, yeah I think you are right, it's not the best choice for you. But I do think your sample size is too small to say the whole thing is bad. That Captain Solo guy above in the thread, he just loves website girls.

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Vien dong is really good fo young and good looking girls plus 24hr operations. ;) downside is after so many visits, all I get is HJ and not even BJ. Refuse to tip anything more than 300k and never get their contacts because it is a stealth mission each time.

Go in change, get massage, shower then leave. :( what a waste that I nv enjoy their facilities.

Dai nam is also convenient location but quality of girls lose out to Vien Dong. Avoid dai nam steam bath if on stealth mission. I smelt like a walking ginseng once and lucky that was not a stealth mission. Lol.

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What do you mean, stealth mission? What is the goal of this mission?

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A itinerary for my virgin 6 days 5 nights trip to HCM with a friend (both first timer), arrive on 3Apr at TSN airport and back to sg on 8apr. As usual, this post just bookmark for my future reference, and welcome all feedback , also would like to take the opportunity to learn from some old timers here...here it goes:

1st day:
Book the jetstar flight during promo period a month ago, cost less than $90. Upon getting the passport chop, on the left are some shops selling sim card. I did not get any sim card there cos got 3 telco, not sure which to get unless ask one by one..Took a cab after exit from airport, on the left, there is the taxi q, look for the vinasun guy(in green uniform) and request for a cab. First day hotel is at Tan Binh District, advance booking from website and after checkin at hotel (passport return after register), ask for bike rental but too bad, no bike to my likings..haha, so was hoping that i can come across some rental shop later, but sadly couldnt locate one. the rest just travel around by foot and get a sim card from one phone shop, price not so good. i got the viettel at 70k and was thinking of subscribe to those daily data plan after top up 40k( eg. MT5), but fails, donno why, so sale girl just advise to sub for 70k or 80k monthly data plan 1.5GB, so ended up paying round 150k for whole thing done..Rest of the day just jalan jalan, went to normal cafe for my fav viet coffee, pace slow and relax, nothing much except went to nambo for suckling pig dinner. here in hcm, the piglet size is smaller, with thicker meat and bone, in contrast, what we have in jb is the thin layer of skin and meat and boneless...bill is abt 800k for half piglet and 1 grill chicken and some beers. Not much action here, will skip this district unless u intend to stay here cos is nearer to airport and rent a bike to move around other districts..

2nd day:

Got a uber and move to district 10 LHP. just move around and u can spot plenty hotels for st or overnight stay. Ended up, we book 1 night at Dona hotel, main reason is the manager speak fluent english. And he assist us on the bike rental, price is 150k per day, fuel top up on own...(here in hcm the traffic is quite heavy and slow, exp daytime) and my first biking experience after more than 20 yr..dun dare to venture to the heavy traffic yet..haha..weather is damn hot and everywhere u can find stalls selling drinks or coffee by the roadside, so we hv some drink and coffee the kill the thirst...around evening, which traffic is lighter, we travel around and found alot more cheaper hotels along VSH street, also those saloon shops with many girls sitting inside, all wearing same outfit...was approach by one guy sitting outside the shop, and quote 800k for FJ..so we skip this without further explore the rest.. next we had our beef bbq dinner and move to cafe mifa...we stay for nearly 3 hrs and 3 lady dj taking turns if i rem correctly. luckily both the girls sitting with us can speak Chinese, got their contact. ask for bill, abt 80k for 2 beers, wanna tip each girls 50k, but quite shock, they ask why???? after this, we went for hotel massage as recommend by another chion ster, ticket is 100k. facilities wise not bad, got pool and a big resting area ( massage open 24hrs, added to my liking abt vietnam), girls 2 shift working 8 to 8..u can request for foot massage at the resting area too..went for a quick shower before marshal to a small cubicle, i also checkout the vip room with tv and individual steam bath/sauna room, price is 250k, will try it next time if revisit. the massage girl assign not bad looking, can speak little english. Came in, ask any drink, so i order coffee. then began with hotstone massage follow by normal massage sitting on my butt..haha..after flip over and continue massga. after a hard and relaxing massge for 45 mins, she ask: can i massage ur baby?. i ask her how much, she say: up to u ...so proceed with HJ and touching the boobs as she pull her bra to one side, and for the cubicle, there is this round glass panel which others can see from outside..after time up, write the amt of tip on the slip of paper ( i wrote 200k, is this appropriate , need advice here and for the vip room got more action??) pay everything at the counter when leaving, total for me is 320, tip 200k and ticket is 120k, maybe charge for coffee or hotstone..then moving around, saw some cafe with girls sitting alone, sorry not good in remember the name of streets..will venture more on this during next trip too..haha next we had our supper along the roadside stall...nice wan ton mee..many ingredients ...before back to hotel..sorry for the lengthy post
to be continue day 3 on next post

Straightaway videocall the girl after she said hi etc and declare her pic is real. Usually are pimps operating these wechats. However there are really some genuine independent callgirls. Depends on your luck really. If u have alot of notes uncle ho, how beautiful,what time u want also have,fake or not fake. :D

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I'm not sure if I'm talking to a clone or the real LSW. Maybe shocked was too strong a word. Taken aback. Yeah it doesn't add up. The girl came downstairs to my room (room 805 (?!?!?!) ) on the first floor (called '2nd floor' in America btw -- not the ground floor but up one flight) and went back upstairs into some room up there, I think one flight up. That's where the mamasan seemed to be cuz I got the call right after the girl was back in her room again. Yeah I don't get too upset, it seems to just be what you get sometimes. It actually didn't occur to me to call the police. :D

If that was just your everyday bait and switch, man those people are evil cuz that girl in the pics looks 1000% better than the one that showed up. I think it would be humanly impossible to say OK to the girl that showed up if you were expecting the girl in the photos. It set a new bar for my "off the charts" -- most extremely wrong fake pics ever. Or maybe tied it. The previous one also on PXL. I'm 0 for 2 in PN/PXL.

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Anyone in town wanna grab a drink at a pub/bar or cafe? Since tomorrow is a PH in Vietnam :D

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Any bro heading to HCM from 19 to 22 May? My friend and I wanted to explore HCM but we have not visit there before. looking for someone who has experience :) Pls pm me. Thanks.

Regards
Adrian

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anyone want to meet up? i will be traveling to hcm from 28 april to 2 may... we can go karoke or other joints together. please pm or maybe reply here also no prob..

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Which hotel is guest friendly and at a decent location? Don't have a budget but under $100 a day if possible.

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Going to Bien Hoa and stay in Aurora hotel...any good happening places to recommend?