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Jun|ch| 21-03-2005 12:17 PM

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Sorry for starting a new thread and i been thinking too much and have no choice but to ask the advises of the lau jiaos in BKK.I am currently having a TG from bangkok. It all started when I went to NEP two months ago and met her at a-gogo bar. I paid bar-fined her and spent the night with her.Till now I never paid a single cent for her services and the entire trip of ten days I stayed with her. My current problem now is that I do love her and went down to bangkok every weekend to see her. She would stop work and spend the days with me. I paid for the hotels and expenditures but never gave her any $$ as she refused to. In fact twice when I was there she paid everything for me. As I do miss her now when i am in singapore,she is workin in the agogo bar but she does not go with customers.She calls me every hour while she is working and calls me after work and talks for me all the way home. Sometimes I do trust her but sometimes I fear she goes for ST with customers.I wanted to end this relationship because I do not see a future for both of us. She tells me that she wants me to go over bangkok to stay with her.As long as i do stay with her, she will take care of accomodation and the living expenses. I know she meant it and even to the expense of going with customers just to finance my stay there. I just could not do it be it egoistic or watever.I am not going to "depend" on a girl for the rest of my life but also i could not support her in singapore as i am just a employee getting paid...please advise...i tried breaking off with her telling her its just not possible for me and her and hopes she finds a rich man to take care of her...but she would threatens me she would do something stupid if i leave her...I am very tired of everything and every night i fear she goes with customers but i know she does not.

sex_maniac2 21-03-2005 12:25 PM

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have you read stephen leather's Private Dancer? Good to help you make some decisions.

Jun|ch| 21-03-2005 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sex_maniac2
have you read stephen leather's Private Dancer? Good to help you make some decisions.

yes i read the story before I went to bangkok...she knows i do not have the financial capability to take care of her and she offers to take care of me instead and told me if i am really tired of singapore as I am currently feeling so strained travelling to and fro bangkok every weekend.

DNAT 21-03-2005 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sex_maniac2
have you read stephen leather's Private Dancer? Good to help you make some decisions.

Dear SM2,

If I were the go-go gal, I will fall for bro jun[ch] also ... he is a nice looking guy and very soft spoken... how I know? cos I had met him before.

MoonFace 21-03-2005 12:30 PM

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"Here we go again.. same old shit again.. up and down this avenue.. one more round and STILL won't be through..."

:D

sex_maniac2 21-03-2005 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DNAT
Dear SM2,

If I were the go-go gal, I will fall for bro jun[ch] also ... he is a nice looking guy and very soft spoken... how I know? cos I had met him before.

Assuming that the girl really likes him, what is your advise for Jun??
Jun do not want to carry on the relationship because he cant take it, too tiring, and too emotionally draining for him. How ?

Jun|ch| 21-03-2005 12:33 PM

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Dear SM2,

If I were the go-go gal, I will fall for bro jun[ch] also ... he is a nice looking guy and very soft spoken... how I know? cos I had met him before.

thanks bro DNAT, u put a smile across my face this morning seeing you posting a post from u. thanks for the flattering..I been troubled these days and have sleepless nights over the entire matter and had no place to turn to and decided to put my story here. I was afraid of remarks made thus waited till today. I really hope to get some advises here.. :confused:

DNAT 21-03-2005 12:35 PM

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My current problem now is that I do love her and went down to bangkok every weekend to see her. She would stop work and spend the days with me. I paid for the hotels and expenditures but never gave her any $$ as she refused to.

Like that both of you sure become very broke .. how to live on ??
-- In this real world, love still needs money to nourish :(


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Originally Posted by Jun|ch|
I wanted to end this relationship because I do not see a future for both of us. She tells me that she wants me to go over bangkok to stay with her.As long as i do stay with her, she will take care of accomodation and the living expenses. ...

KNN, you ask you to be so handsome ... hahaha (joke oni lah, mai hot ya)

Last time you asked me to bring you go batam but I declined cos I scare you will get into such siutation in Batam also ..

For the above case, guess you gotta change your HP contacts etc and cut ties with her ... its good for both of you in the long run.

If you need to discuss further, do drop me a PM or SMS (my number remains unchanged)

MoonFace 21-03-2005 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DNAT
...guess you gotta change your HP contacts etc and cut ties with her ... its good for both of you in the long run.

If you need to discuss further, do drop me a PM or SMS (my number remains unchanged)

wah lanz.. tell ppl to wear your underwear!
unlike you.. some other ppl have heart one you know... :cool:

Jun|ch| 21-03-2005 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sex_maniac2
Assuming that the girl really likes him, what is your advise for Jun??
Jun do not want to carry on the relationship because he cant take it, too tiring, and too emotionally draining for him. How ?

she does love me because she knowing that I am broke,she does not mind and even sold her hp and gold just for paying for the accomodations when i went countless times over to see her in bangkok over the weekends. for the past two months i went over 8times over the weekends.My resources have depleted and i come back singapore because i need to work to carry on this tiring relationship. I do love her and wants to be with her but too much problems at hand. And somehow i do not trust her after reading so much from sammyboy and stickman posts. Fearing that she will go with customers though she calls me without fail every hour while she working till she after work and goes home. sometimes i blame myself for all that is happening..she is also very tired and hurt for me not trusting her. I just cant help it and i know Trust is very impt in any relationship..

Jun|ch| 21-03-2005 12:45 PM

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Like that both of you sure become very broke .. how to live on ??
-- In this real world, love still needs money to nourish :(

yah we are very broke now...thats the problem we are facing...she working and gets onli 7000 baht for this month from agogo bar...with that amount of $$ is pointless as a couple in BKK can not survive with this amount..when i told her let's end this relationship last nite..she cried and told me "as long as u come stay with me in BKK,i can work and even go with customers one day if u and i do not have $$ to eat and stay...i really hurt to hear that..and i know she meant it..and i can never allow her to do that...I am not a piichai or thai man...degrading myself//

KNN, you ask you to be so handsome ... hahaha (joke oni lah, mai hot ya)

Last time you asked me to bring you go batam but I declined cos I scare you will get into such siutation in Batam also ..

For the above case, guess you gotta change your HP contacts etc and cut ties with her ... its good for both of you in the long run.

If you need to discuss further, do drop me a PM or SMS (my number remains unchanged)

yah u know my weakness and thus prevented me from getting into one in batam but unfortunately i fell for one in BKK..if my girl ask me for $$ i sure can wake up and follow suit to break off as she is aftering my money...but this one is so much different...there is no such examples listed in sammyboy or stickman posts...

Jun|ch| 21-03-2005 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chuwit
Wow can become piichai liao!

Yes damn tiring flying in and out of BKK every week. Quarter of a day gone spent on travelling per way. :D

I do hope to find a solution to my sleepless nights...I am having contradictions...my heart wants to stay with her but my mind tells me to let her go and get a rich man and i can not let her go with customers to get the money to keep me by her side..

DNAT 21-03-2005 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MoonFace
wah lanz.. tell ppl to wear your underwear!
unlike you.. some other ppl have heart one you know... :cool:

Now hia .. I where got no heart. I give my heart to the cewek - when I am with them ... hehehe.

ya, the medicine I prescribe might taste bitter but its good for him .. this kinda of thing no other choice 1 lah.

jun[ch]:
you may 1 2 PM collin_23 for his personal advise - cos he went thru some sort of same path as you.

Batam Man 21-03-2005 12:51 PM

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Wahhhh very the CHIM man, if kena this type of "love story" is worst then whatever sickness in the world, the heart always felt like got 1 big stone on it wan, haizzzz CHIM ahhhhhh cow also die ahhhhh :o

MoonFace 21-03-2005 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jun|ch|
.. i can not let her go with customers to get the money to keep me by her side..

maybe you know the rest.. but i dunno you.
just my advice.. you are right with the above statement.

if you cannot support her.. don't be her burden!
be a man..not a loser

Jun|ch| 21-03-2005 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DNAT
Now hia .. I where got no heart. I give my heart to the cewek - when I am with them ... hehehe.

ya, the medicine I prescribe might taste bitter but its good for him .. this kinda of thing no other choice 1 lah.

jun[ch]:
you may 1 2 PM collin_23 for his personal advise - cos he went thru some sort of same path as you.

i tried many times this week to end it calmly for both of us.She would just tell me not to do that and she wants me to go over.

will collin_23 entertain my issue??u know i kinda of soft spoken and not the thick skinned type to go talk to someone.. :( so indeed he went thru something like tat then...i was thinking if someone can shares his past with me

Jun|ch| 21-03-2005 01:00 PM

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Well you have a good girl from the looks of it. Good luck brother. You can PM me if it's private stuff.

yah she is a good girl...and i had several gfs before in singapore but never felt so happy when i was with her during my first trip and the first time i saw her. She was really nice to me and everything. I "did" her without condom for the first night and every subsequent time. She wants to have baby for me thinking that will keep me with her as she knows i am very soft hearted.Sometime to share about her,she just made a buddha which her grandma gave her to "give" to her future man she loved which she claims is more than a hundred year old buddha which is very hard to get...perhaps i do not know..i am a newbie..and she made the amulet with gold and paid for it with her monthly wages and wants to have it when i come next time...when staying with me over the weekends she never asked me for money to pay her barfine and allows mamasan to deduct her pay.

Freestyler69 21-03-2005 01:01 PM

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Unless she can quit and find another decent job and you go over to BKK and get yourself a job.. i dun se any possibility that this will last long.

Getting a job in BKK is not easy especially with foriegners who can't speak Thai. perhaps setting up some business is more a likely solution.

either, I can't think of anything for you, cos I duin know what's your strength and situation. I always believe love can be true and can be false at the same time.. the line between true love and false is ver very thin... true love can happen even in whore house much less a gogo bar..

Good luck to your quest.. chok dee kap!

Jun|ch| 21-03-2005 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Batam Man
Wahhhh very the CHIM man, if kena this type of "love story" is worst then whatever sickness in the world, the heart always felt like got 1 big stone on it wan, haizzzz CHIM ahhhhhh cow also die ahhhhh :o

my friends and colleagues says i am a living zombie since i went for bkk...everyday seems so difficult to pass..

Jun|ch| 21-03-2005 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MoonFace
maybe you know the rest.. but i dunno you.
just my advice.. you are right with the above statement.

if you cannot support her.. don't be her burden!
be a man..not a loser

yah i m very deeply into this relationship but it does not blurred my mind being a piichai and loser... :o

Jun|ch| 21-03-2005 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chuwit
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. And lots of it.

This tells us that we need to excel in ourselves by making more money. Not just for this kind of situation but for all sorts of emergencies as well. Family, medical, taxes, etc.

Some people gave it a try and move to Thailand. It depends on which route you want to take.

It's her job and being sleepless about it is no use. If she is truly the rare good ones. She can easily survive 10000B allowance given by you. Also this depends whether she has a family to support. Few details I can't get the whole picture. PM me is you wish to.

yah i do not have the money to stay in BKK...she does not have to support her family as her parents were divorced and stays elsewhere...she is staying with her grandma...i wish her to stop work but how is it going to solve the issue of not able to keep her by my side?just yesterday weekend for the first weekend i did not go over to BKK...because i am so broke now and my company holds back my pay cheque...i am a freelancer btw...she cried over the phone last two nitex tellin me she miss me so much...i feel so helpless..

sex_maniac2 21-03-2005 01:18 PM

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.....she cried over the phone last two nitex tellin me she miss me so much...i feel so helpless..

this is your weakness i supposed. she could be playing with your weakness. tell her you are broke and has no time to go. If she is really that good girl, she will be understanding and I supposed she will wait for u.

DNAT 21-03-2005 01:31 PM

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. If she is really that good girl, she will be understanding and I supposed she will wait for u.

I up you for providing such positive comments :)

naemlo 21-03-2005 01:37 PM

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yah i do not have the money to stay in BKK...she does not have to support her family as her parents were divorced and stays elsewhere...she is staying with her grandma...i wish her to stop work but how is it going to solve the issue of not able to keep her by my side?just yesterday weekend for the first weekend i did not go over to BKK...because i am so broke now and my company holds back my pay cheque...i am a freelancer btw...she cried over the phone last two nitex tellin me she miss me so much...i feel so helpless..


Money is the primary decision for her to work. If u can't afford to pay for her living, she will not be by your side. Love dun have to c each other everydays. My gf in BKK but still we only meet once a mth in BKK. My gf do tell me she miss me, but we r thinking adult. We dun cry, whimp n feel sad helpless.... Face the fact, money makes the world go round n round. If u dun have the money to support her, there is a chinese saying, long pain is worse than short pain.

Jun|ch| 21-03-2005 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sex_maniac2
this is your weakness i supposed. she could be playing with your weakness. tell her you are broke and has no time to go. If she is really that good girl, she will be understanding and I supposed she will wait for u.

she knows i am broke and tells me to go over whenever i wish to...she will wait for me...but i do not know if i should let her wait...hope u understand what i mean...i feeling very confused... :(

Jun|ch| 21-03-2005 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by naemlo
Money is the primary decision for her to work. If u can't afford to pay for her living, she will not be by your side. Love dun have to c each other everydays. My gf in BKK but still we only meet once a mth in BKK. My gf do tell me she miss me, but we r thinking adult. We dun cry, whimp n feel sad helpless.... Face the fact, money makes the world go round n round. If u dun have the money to support her, there is a chinese saying, long pain is worse than short pain.


yah i am aware of that...i feel so useless on my part not able to provide for her..the reason why i want to break up now cos i am aware of that proverb...but she wants to make the relationship...perhaps she is not aware of the "real problems" we need to face....for example the immigration part...i cant stay forever in bKK doing nothing..?? :(

DNAT 21-03-2005 02:22 PM

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yah i am aware of that...i feel so useless on my part not able to provide for her..the reason why i want to break up now cos i am aware of that proverb...but she wants to make the relationship...perhaps she is not aware of the "real problems" we need to face....for example the immigration part...i cant stay forever in bKK doing nothing..?? :(

thats the underlying issue ... I suspect she knows you would bring her to Sg .. eventually .. :rolleyes: given that you are soft-hearted and received so may 'goodies' from her, your last resort is to stay with her in Sg.

no offence, just my wild guessing.

Jun|ch| 21-03-2005 02:25 PM

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thats the underlying issue ... I suspect she knows you would bring her to Sg .. eventually .. :rolleyes: given that you are soft-hearted and received so may 'goodies' from her, your last resort is to stay with her in Sg.

no offence, just my wild guessing.

Initially she wanted to come over and stay with me...but because I told her my parents are the conservative type and me being the only child of the family...my parents are alittle skeptical towards thai ladies.Being protective over me after all...she knows she cant come over and decides for me to go over to stay for her...so i think she is genuine in askin me to do so...

DNAT 21-03-2005 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by john teo
Brother, not my problem but do thread carefully. Hope it not hook, line and sinker kind of situation....wish you well.

pak JT, get the Siam problem solver - ThV come over leh ... hehe :)

Jun|ch| 21-03-2005 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by john teo
Brother, not my problem but do thread carefully. Hope it not hook, line and sinker kind of situation....wish you well.

sorry i do not understand the underlying message...k explain?


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