[abscity]

now i'm not trying to advocate running away after playing, but we should learn our own rights when chionging. another personal experience: i've gone into a massage parlour, and before any massage even begins the lady cozies up to me and asks me what i want to do. i smile at her, caress her tits and ass and ask her: what can you do? she then proceeds to tell me her services and exorbitant costs for it. i smiled again, started wearing back my clothes and told her it's too expensive. that shocked her and she said it's negotiable, and that she thinks i'm handsome so she'll give me a discount blah blah. and then she reduces her rate to the normal rate and asks me to pay first.

i told her, no thanks, and continued wearing back my clothes. while doing that i asked her to return my massage fee because the massage hasn't even started. she pleaded with me and said the massage fees are for her boss and that she has already written it into the logbook. (this is most probably true, not always, but most times it is)

so i told her: i'm just out to have fun, and i want to pay the market rate and not get chopped like a carrot. so it's simple. you give me a hj, and then i pay you. if you give me such a half assed hj that i cant even cum from it, or you start complaining that i'm taking too long etc. then i will walk out and i will not pay you. i'm not asking to get the best orgasm in my life, but make it worth my 50$ and i will give it to you happily, and maybe a little more if it's really good.

if you're not ok with this, then we're not going to do anything, you're going to give me back my massage fee, and i'm walking out of here. (if this happens, it's still to my benefit as i got a good grope of her assets).

in the end, she got really hardworking and did not complain a single second. i paid her dutifully after everything was done. that massage lady would definitely have given me the crappiest service ever if we had continued as per normal. in fact, usually if they ask for the fee straight up, and go into the services before even doing the massage, then it's probably going to be lousy. in that case, just ask for a refund as you haven't started anything.

trust me, 95% of the time this will be a good choice. in my case, if she din't agree to not be paid if she gave me crap service, i would have gotten my refund and walked out.

seriously, if every chiongster had an attitude similar to this: not trying to take advantage, but being fair to yourself, we'd definitely see an improvement in standard across the board. the only reason we're seeing lousy attitudes is because there are a lot of guys who are actually stupid enough to take it and just suck it up.