[nono1973]

Originally Posted by Psam

I am cheapo not good at bargaining, if up to me I will pay her basic + tips. If she ask maybe 200-300k.

I arent good at bargaining either,but it was fun to do so,hehehe...i like the feeling of winning in bargaining,then when i bargain to the lowest,eg a quoted HJ for 300k,i bargained to 100k,all of a sudden during payment i pay her 100k (for the hj) plus another 50k extra (can be 20k-30k at times),i can feel and tell she is super happy becos i believe she has already expected to be paid 100k for the deed,but suddenly got an extra 50k. Feel like strike lottery,tho not as happy as actually striking lottery.But i am kind of sure the girl will remember me of my "good",hehehe...

Reason i ask how much would you pay for a hj when the girl didnt prompt the GQ is becos when i went to Keyza,i wasnt quoted a price for HJ,happy ending just falls in and i just pay according to what this thread says,the basic.(she does look happy tho,maybe becos shes new) If she ask,i would have pay her 200k,maybe even 250k for that hj as i classify her as a super SYT.

Originally Posted by vmtech

Used to stay at hotel Nagoya Plasa long time ago, is it still any good?

I have never stayed in Nagoya Plaza Hotel before,but i just went to check out the map,indeed it is very near to Nagoya Hill Mall. Then again,you also need to ask yourself,why are you going Batam for? Shopping? cheonging? The massage? Or the Food? etc etc. What will be your number 1,2 and 3 priority to go Batam? Shopping-wise,yes according to Batam map,i believe Nagoya Plaza would be a good place to stay in and the room shown in agoda website looks pretty much neat enough for a night or 2's stay.

If you are seeking alternative,try Formosa Hotel. It is a few dollar cheaper than Nagoya Plaza (comparing from agoda). It is an extra 2-3 mins walk if you compare walking from Nagoya Plaza Hotel to Nagoya Hill Mall with Formosa Hotel. But what you are getting more out of convenience is the cheonging places to visit,eg Queens ,Dynasty and New Berlian which is REALLY a stone throw away if you throw it hard enough,hehehe...or Alishan KTV on the 4th floor of Formosa Hotel,Linda Massage and Relax Massage opposite the hotel,Kings Massage at Hotel 4th Floor. It is also a 3 star hotel similar to Nagoya Plaza where all rooms will have Wifi coverage. (so far most if not all 3 stars hotels in Batam has in-room wifi) And convenient store aka provision shop are at 1st floor of the same building behind hotel (in case you need CDs,toiletries...lol). The famous Mickey Mouse Bat Kut Teh and other popular eateries also round the corner too (50 steps to 100 steps away).

Again,it still depends how you are setting your priority when in Batam. What should come 1st? And 2nd? 3rd? etc....what i am recommending here is,everything from cheonging,shopping,eating,massage etc all under one roof w/o using a taxi/ojek. Setback is,you wont be getting the best of those "everything" unless you move around and the "best" of everything really depends on each individual's preference where the "one man's meat and poison" theory truly apply.

Hope this helps.

Originally Posted by banana81sg

Yeah bro nono i know... Sigh still learnin on write good fr.... When will reach ur level lol..... Always thought give many info, but after u pm n tidy up it, seem even more infomative lol

Hehehe...if you notice,i wasnt writing an FR,i am writing a summary. I am no good at FRs too. And what i did on your FRs are just summarizing it.I pick up the key points,label them and then magnify it. I imagine i am "you" going to Batam,what you actually do i ask you via PM,since the key point are already mentioned in your post/s and then i label them in Bold with massage joint name,the price,the type of girl and the kind of service you got from them,good? Bad? etc etc.

Examples :

You go Keyza,you got O package and girl was no good,old and service incomplete etc.

i will write it this way (to put up the masseur name or not is entirely up to you but i recommend one to give Names of girls that provide Bad Service) :

<picture of joint>
Name of place : Keyza Massage (beside A3 massage shop,behind Utama Hotel)
Type of girl : about 30 years old,fat old hag (name Fatimah)
Massage : O package taken with b2b + Vitalita + Milk Bath - fuck up massage only piano strength,not suitable for me as i was expecting better. 1.5 hr massage ends in 1 hr etc.
Price : 308k for O package for 1.5 hr
Special service : Got HJ at 100k bargained from 300k,FJ offered 500k but didnt take,so didnt bargain.
Overall : 1/10 - Complain to reception but she/he bo chap me,i will never RTM EVER again in this shop as there are better service somewhere etc etc....

<picture of joint>
Name of place : Linda Massage (opp Formosa)
Type of girl : less than 30 years old,good looking for a MILF with 8/10 looks
Massage : good massage with lots of teasing,turn me on etc etc
Price : took 60min massage at 70k/hr,
Special service : Got HJ at 100k after bargain from 200k,dont provide FJ
Overall : 7/10 rating - Good for a decent massage with happy ending,but bed is lousy and room got mosquito,cockroach etc etc. Will RTM but not before trying others.

Notice you have all these formation in your FRs but they are mostly divided off,hehehe...and others reading the scattered information may not know the details unless he/she has personal try that place before reading. For those who never visit the place before may think you have hidden info in your description which may likely incur unforeseen charges/changes when they are there and this is especially so if they are newbie or 1st timer to Batam. Newbie usually lacks confident,and they are trying to get confident from reading the info you post so they know what to expect when they are there.

These are just personal opinion. Hope it helps you to better gather information to share it here in future but whatever it is, the most utmost important thing when noting an information down is,you MUST 1st be comfortable how you wish to write it and over time modify it with your own style.

Originally Posted by banana81sg

Lol complete massage list i must go marthon again lol..... Body red again later

Plan your trip bro,no need to complete anything in any trips,no need to go marathon. I believe the bros here also wants to see you enjoy yourself in your FRs too. And i am sure people dont enjoy reading your FRs when they dont feel you are enjoying. Or if its a bad trip,people dont enjoy reading when they feel you are specifying CLEARLY why you are not enjoying your trip. Go for the quality of trip rather than the quantity to fulfil,bro.

Example if you have a bad trip,dont just say "hey! I hate my batam trip becos i am caught with bed bugs and brought them home to Sillypore." But you didnt spell which hotel/Massage place,which room you caught the bugs from. Be specified,write your bad encounters down to help others to avoid a particular hotel or at least keep them from making same mistake as you,i am sure tons of bros here will appreciate it. (personal opinion)

If i am you,i will plan my massage trip if my preference is to cheong massage places. I am going for a 3D2N trip to Batam and massage shop is my number 1 target :

I stay in Romance Hotel,there are at least 15 shops around that area ,so 1st day i only choose 2-3 shops to visit. 1st shop tried in late morning ,dont immediately head to the 2nd shop after the 1st,go back hotel,rest up a bit,catch a meal or something,do something else eg wash up,shopping or looking thru the rest of the massage shop in that area,head back to hotel and then plan for your next shop to visit. Same thing,after 2nd shop tried,dont immediately head to a 3rd shop...go do something else 1st,give a short break and compare your 1st and 2nd encounter,compare which one you better enjoyed? Plan for your 3rd try and then go ahead with it or if you think after making comparison,you may revisit 1st or 2nd shop again and leave your 3rd for next day and so on. Most important is,you yourself MUST like what you try...and not try these places for the sake of trying w/o an aim to enjoy yourself or worse,just wanting to fill up the numbers. If so, you are just wasting money trying many shops w/o really knowing which are the worthily good ones and which are not-so-good at the end of the day. It is also painful and unhealthy for your physical body too.

Massage is suppose to be a relaxing enjoyment,dont let it become a torment to you. Hehehe...and Happy Ending is suppose to help make you (and your lil bro) happy,if you know you (and your lil bro) wont be happy,why waste your cum and your money to torture yourself?

I sincerely hope in your next trip,you will be able to have a good time in Batam and importantly MUST AIM to try your very best to enjoy yourself. Hehehe....