[SEAJ]

Just a suggestion/IMHO/please ignore if you dun like.

After being hounded by crook stealth agents, and their cohorts/clones for years, I now know some of their traps/tricks. They will usually start by creating havoc/battle on location threads where they want to operate at.

They aim to make genuine contributors so mad, so exasperated, that many will just stop posting; they organize gangs, mass zap and at the same time post tempting but incomplete posts to trap you. They will also post up plaintive newbie-type posts to lure helpful genuine Samsters to either their den of thieves or to pump out more info etc. with which to attack/discredit later on.

I had thought that with the wealth of information on here, the quite easy accessibility of Batam, and since most here seem to favor lower priced options, that scamming opportunities would be quite limited. But I guess other locales are now so crowded with these crooks - PLUS Batam IS such a large market for Singaporeans - that they would be trying to break in here now.

Common counter-attack tactics do not work - whether you meet these crooks head-on, expose them, do your own zapping etc! They are too well organized, have unlimited number of nicks/clones they will deploy in tangent or in replacement of ones used AND they are in it for the money; none of us are really a match for them. They create havoc, start arguments, fill threads with bile and hatred, target a particular nick – EVEN ONE THEY CREATE THEMSELVES - they divide and conquer. And note that they DO have sooooo many tactics/tricks up their sleeves that its practically impossible to spot some of them.

I suggest that the only thing you can/should do is to just totally ignore these crooks; otherwise you will just be playing into their ploy to cause havoc and will destroy this great thread. Just glance through many of the other location threads filled with so much crap/havoc that you can never be sure if anything you read is true or just another trap set by these slime-balls.

Again, apologies if you don’t like what I write/please just ignore.
But…. Knowing these crooks well…..!

SEAJ