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Originally Posted by KohOnly21

....some people don't come batam for Indon food but rather cheap seafood and many other cheap food.

Just like if I travel to Philippines, I don't really fancy their filipino dishes as well. I would be looking for their western/fast food.

I usually go for food that i eat daily in Sillypore when in Batam (char siew rice,chicken rice,wan tan mee,hor fun,fried rice etc) and most of these arent indo. A meal to me is just a meal,as long as it fits my taste. If i were to go beyond my taste bud,the next level up would likely be heading towards tonic stuffs,vegetarian food or exotic delicacy ,eg crocodile meat,reptile meat etc.

I notice something when i am searching online for Batam Food. I notice most of whats being shared online are RESTAURANTS,but coffee shop food were VERY VERY RARE. In fact i dont see those stores like the Meximo Pub Wan Tan Mee,Instar Hotel Coffee shop mee store,or the Penuin Market's Bai Long Bak Chor Wan Tan Mee or their neighboring Char Siew Rice store,Penuin Chicken rice store etc mentioned online at all (cant find within online search engines).

These are all SUPER GOOD tasting regular daily food,but no...cant locate even a single one of them at all except in SBF,hehehe.... I guess thats what makes them an unique class of its own. From another angle of view,we have so much talk about having local food,hehehe...but most of us are still evolving around at the regular tourist eating circle which can be spotted online.And i do not mean that tourist area food is not good tasting nor no good tho.

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If anyone has any of such food places in mind,do keep me posted.

I sincerely thank you.

*planning my 3 meals for my upcoming 17th Batam trip now,hehehe...

Originally Posted by Intltuk

....I brought a group of kakis to TP and 1/2 the grp book girls from village for overnight. I inform them the price is SGD20(note price is 28yrs ago) and make sure the girls agree. As we were sharing 2 to a room, those of us hve did not have girls gave our rooms up to those who have. Next morning, frantic knocking on the door, I opened the door and the bros hve had their bonks standing outside. They wanted me to help settle their problem with the girls, who were demanding SGD50 vs agreed SGD20. After trying to negotiate/threaten the girls...the bros decided they do not want to drag the matter further and they paid up. As I brought the bros there.....I decided to investigate how this happen and this is wat I found out:

1. Some of the bros did not nego with the girls...they assume all same price.
2. One bro was being Santa Claus to his girl behind our backs.....thus, the girl was the leader who convince the rest of the girls to demand for SGD 50.

Thank you for sharing,bro.

As mentioned earlier,everyone in one way or another learns from history. And from your sharing,i learned that history often repeats itself till this very day,hehehe...believe me,it is already shown here at this moment of time when i type this post. Just one small example,remember the Banned Joint Morena on my signature,many were conned off in Batam,a warning was stated no less than 10 times by various different bros,but still you see people keep repeating the same "thing" till this day (received yet another complain on Morena 29,Morena 30 and Morena "whatever number" just last week via PM...lol).

Your "history" stated every interest party are suppose to pay S$20 per pax for each girl when you bring a whole group to a particular joint and a "confirmation in price" is required with their respective girls (thats 28 years ago of course). Some Indian chief aka "know-it-all" person out of a sudden tries to impress a particular girl he likes which result in all other interest party being having to pay more than double the amount at the end of the day.

Reminds me the time i brought my part-time job boss to a Batam KTV in 2014 (not stated in any of my summaries becos i was a follower then),told him about the tipping system and all that,but he ends up tipping S$100 for his girl....lol (overnight and non-overnight). End of the day the rest of those who follows has to tip a minimum of S$50 each. Good thing is he only visit Batam once (or twice/thrice at max) and he voluntarily top up another S$50 for the rest of the other girls that were booked overnight (meaning all booked girls were tipped S$100 eventually)by us that day. Our damage per pax on that 2D1N (not counting my boss) is 1.5 juta for overnight girl plus S$100 tips (S$50 + S$50)...lol (liquor not included). Still cheap in Sillypore term tho,but ultra expensive in any 3rd world cities. Bad thing is from that day onward,when he ask anybody go Batam with him,every regular visitors he knows avoid him as far as possible...lol....and when we are there,we NEVER step into that KTV again becos we know all the mamissss there WOULD be expecting those "amount of tips" from any of us...lol. A little similar to your story?

See,history does repeats itself from 28 years ago today and i believe given another 28 years later,the same old situation is gonna happen again,hehehe...still for the wiser and regulars,MOST WILL learn from those histories.

Originally Posted by Intltuk

Were there lessons learnt? Well, those bros, I'm sure hve learnt...the hard way

Yes,there are definitely lesson learned from your experience even from a reader like me.

I learn from reading your story and physical experience that the people joining in group needs to share close enough frequency,only then can the group easily break the ice to accommodate each other and can then have more fun and lesser conflicts.

Some will want to have 100 bonks a day (ilustration) to have fun,some needs to tip over and beyond to show off their "i have the money" ego,some needs to hug 2 girls to proof they are a REAL man,some needs ecstasy and shake both heads at a discotheque,some needs to out-oust their own friends (or others) in terms of money and/or experience (when 2 super rich frens cross path),of course on some unique cases,there will always be those who try to "cook green bean soup" using money to replace "charcoal" to enjoy their version of fun.Everyone is different. If 2 or more party shares the same frequency when it comes to having fun in an entertainment place/s,the fun portion would then multiplies,hehehe....and if its not,it would likely be the last they see each other.

Originally Posted by Intltuk

Agree on two points. For me, reputation of OKT is important as he decides the behaviour/misbehaviour of the girls/mami. Picking of girls...well, that is something ea bro will have to pick up as there is no hard and fast rules as like u say, one man's meat another poison....but the nbr one rule as u've mentioned.......Pick the girl that show sincere interest as a hot looking babe can give u a bad time and a av girl can bring u to heaven...with the right attitude

Yes,yes...the OKT is an important key factor when it comes to picking the rightly behaved girls in a booking joint in my case. So,i also have some requirement for both papi and mami,hehehe....even tho i am not a believer of "customer is always right".

Past FRs has shown me that a handful of cheongster do not treat the girls like human. The girls to them are like robots or sex dolls from my perspective (base on their expectation), that do not need to "eat to live" at all...lol. I will give the girls respect,and while i do not expect to have similar amount of it back;if i dont get the borderline basic, then i will consider the girl under "no good" girls category. In my 16 trips to Batam,i have only encounter one bad one base on my poor standard. No runaways so far...lol *touch wood*, and knowing of the existence of "runaways",i try to devise ways of my own to prevent it. Isnt that what learning from others is all about? (again,its my own perspective)

Originally Posted by Intltuk

In summary, other than reputation of joints, picking up of girls are a hit/miss affair. Every chiongster would have at least one incident of picking the 'wrong' one.

Totally agree. There will still be joints with consistent fairly ok girls (notice i use the word "ok" and not "good"). But who dares guarantee all girls in these joints will be "ok" for everyone? I doubt anyone could do so. Turn what i just say the other way round now.If there are joints with consistently "not-so-ok" girls,who dares to guarantee there wont be any good girls in these joints for anyone? No one too,i guess...lol.

So while trying to maximize hits and minimize misses...i am sure there would be a formula to it (and these formula applies to different time and places) and they changes all the time. This is the part that would be a challenge and it goes a lot as accordance to an individual player's experience,which i am experimenting and learning today.

Thank you for sharing your experience.