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Old 26-06-2015, 03:20 PM
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Re: Batam Info Thread

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Originally Posted by newyorker88 View Post
All u need to do is to nego. MILF are usually 200K for FJ max. Most of them are willing becos THEY HAVE 1 OR 2 CUSTOMERS A DAY, usually at night. That's where I go for the kill. If no accept customers, they lugi. So a customer who offer 200k is better than none.
Usually i dont make the 1st offer,the girls at most time did (other than Pas Massage who didnt offer me,the rest did...lol). And if they dont offer,i just take it as they dont have special service to provide me and i am perfectly fine with that. This shop dont have,other shops will have. Other shops if still dont have then i still have booking joint girl/s in my room,hehehe...

You didnt really emphasis those point i quoted in bold in most of your postings from the past,bro. Thats what i have been searching and trying to learn on those massage shops. Its the part where you say they (the masseurs) mainly have 1 or 2 customers per day/night.It is suppose to be one of the main KEY! And i am trying to catch those fishes when and where they are at their hungriest,hehehe...the one who holds the purse-string wins.

Just like booking joint girls,customers pay 1.2 -1.5 million rupiah for an overnight booking SYT girl in any booking joint,but how much of the 1.2 - 1.5 million rupiah goes to the girl? Once i knew that (which i already did) and with some other KEY factors,i will then know the REAL cost of booking a girl and how to fish them out using the least bait. And if i can bypass all the other miscellaneous costing,i can get an overnight girl at close to their REAL cost plus a bit of extras.

Of course,this would also mean those who pays 800k or more for FL via wechat,watsapp,BBM or from whatever app are being ripped off in my perspective,hehehe...and i am not talking about having the need to underpay any of the girls. The girls will earn more but would cost me less plus extra extra enjoyment. Win-win.

I have learned and will continue to learn more.

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Originally Posted by newyorker88 View Post
HOTEL SPAS ARE USUALLY ASKING FOR MORE MONEY. They think they are higher class. THEY ALSO HAVE MORE CUSTOMERS AND CAN BE CHOOSY.

Therefore, in Formosa or Indo rasa, or higher end hotels with lots of customers, they can ask for high price n reject to maintain their prices.
Yes,i caught this part of your advise in a few of your posts dated a few years ago. Many chose to ignore,i didnt...hehehe...tho at this higher tourist spot, they can ask for sky high prices,but when i can spot a weakness,i also go for that kill too....lol. There is always a weakness but some luck needs to come into play. The least i know,the bros who joined me in my group trips (and those who read) are intelligent enough not to pay the exorbitant price in Indo term for special service,hehehe....at least not any much higher than those shops from Utama area.

While enjoyment is an important factor in any oversea trips ,i think learning is just equally important too. The least i could do is advise against others who joined me not to make the same mistakes i did (or what others did),hehehe...

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Originally Posted by newyorker88 View Post
Get the picture where to find cheaper ones? Also the stretch along UTAMA hotel, Chinatown massage, KEYZA, etc, competition is high, u get what I mean...
I get the picture,bro. And i have tried and tested some of them. What i am looking now are the "weakness",the right time and the right chemistry. Give you one example,during CNY period,i had the hardest time trying to get a FJ for 250k even for MILF. That is where timing is not right with demand overtaking supply,hehehe...the experienced would know how to turn the Ramadan disadvantage to their favor.

Right timing,right chemistry and right place are whats needed. And right places are all stated on the below cheonging list,hehehe.... (which originated from you) :

http://samleong.shop/showpost.ph...ostcount=30703

In my perspective,i can name all the right places in Batam where there are cheap and good massage,but if one dont bargain down the quoted prices to a certain desirable rate,it will be just good massage and not cheap massage...lol.

Thats why i see it that most part of the future of Batam lies at the hands of the newbies today. From another angle of view,whether the girls eat rice or drink porridge on that particular day depends on newbie's knowledge on the scene. Its just like whether newbies want to allow the girls eat rice or porridge depends on how much he wish to READ and understand the scene.

There is a difference between already knowing how much to pay and yet still be happy and willing to pay more OVER without knowing how much to pay and yet be paying more.

Again,they are my personal perspective.
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