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Re: Batam Info Thread

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Originally Posted by nono1973 View Post

Newspaper usually cost : 5k
i pay the kids who sells it : usually 10k (sometime 7k to 8k)
Extra 2k-5k given is not a donation in this case but a small tip. (there can be more than 1001 reasons for tipping a little kid)

If i give 5k or 10k to anyone who ask me for money in the street. They are begging and i am donating. There is mainly ONLY ONE reason why i donate to beggars,becos i PITY them. And i respect those in the streets of Batam with a good pair of 2 hands and 2 legs who choose to "work for a living" w/o hurting others.

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Bro Nono. This will be first time I talk about these beggers in Batam w you. It is an offence to give to beggers in batam. Years ago, there are so many beggers, and they eventually pass a law to ban them.

Some beg when you stop at traffic lights.

some played music with a guitar or sing and later go around begging while you are eating in a restaurant. ( their singing is terrible, some rather ok)

Some just simply walked up to you to beg.

Nowdays, you see some selling newspapers, that's not an offence. Some sell their flags when it is near their national day, or some sold bottles of waters when the traffic lights are red.

THE BEGGING STILL GOES ON, MUCH LESSER ONLY

Normally, I don't give to them, but there are a few whom I would give. Perhaps, you seen them before too. There is one guy with no limbs, walk with his hands, another with no both hands. He put a pail near to his shoulder and he walks around Nagoya Hills Mall area. He been around close to 20 over years. 1K rupiah, and that's all. Heard that he had 7 or 8 wives to support. But he is supporting many others too.

The kids asking at traffic lights? Don't give. They are controlled by syndicates. Orphans? there are. but usually there are schools or masjit that takes them in, teach them proper and educate them. I donate to them. Not every tom dick temple I give. Only those who I trust.

As it is, charity comes from the heart. But we have to open our eyes whom we are donating to. You see those who run charity/orphanage? see how the kids are being raised. See what events they do, to help others, before opening your purse. Don't do blindly, n when you see scandals at those whom you donated, it breaks your heart.
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