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Re: Batam Info Thread

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Another massage house that tied up with tour agency during that time was Go Massage. Go Massage was cleaned, they changed bedsheet and pillow case and pull the bedsheet in tension like army style albeit you can see some stains that cannot be completely washed off but you know it was considered clean. The therapists were good with good massage technique.
The whole list of clean massage places near to Nagoya Hill Mall below i got from bro iicy's post on his signature were all tied with at least one or few tour agencies :

https://samleong.shop/showpo...ostcount=33556

A lot of clean massage shop on the list can give a good massage if their massage therapies REALLY wish to do so. Believe me,most of them were in one way or another well trained. The problem like i say,they have too many customers,earning by quantity of customers,hence their standard of massage tends to drop. And at times,the "dirty massage shop"'s girls would likely have done a much better job.

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The weird things was the receptionist/counter staff serving ginger tea to walk-in customers only. That means she will asked you to sit down and brings tea to you whereas those came from tour group, the recept/counter staff will point to you where you can serve yourself tea. If the group was large, you queue for your own tea. Kind of strange that I felt, isn't those from tour group also call Customers. hehehe ....
Your saying reminds me of Golden Prawn Restaurant and other restaurants like Wey Wey,Harbour Bay sea food etc. They were also tied down with Tour agent. If you read Trip Advisor's comments on its respective sea food restaurants,you should have no trouble finding their customers who joined tour group saying their Sea Food taste not good and not fresh etc. But if you see those comments by the restaurant customers who didnt join any tour group,their reviews were actually not bad...just one thing,the Sea Food they serve usually cost much more and i am talking about 2 to 3 times more like those pricing in Windsor Food court (or more).

I think they divide their customers into few different category. From my perspective,those who join the tour group,they came in masses and paid with a mass discounted price from groupon etc, this group probably gets to eat the not-so-fresh sea food. Those who walk-in and paying a higher aka normal price probably get the fresher sea food and those who go base on taxi driver's recommendation? Hehehe...i guess they probably get the worse of both world. Expensive and yet not-fresh sea food. Sorry,someone like me who dont take sea food using sea food as an example.

But this same theory above applies for massage places on bro iccy's list too.

Another illustration,I am a customer,you are also a customer,we visit Batam in 2 different time for the exact same girl,you may have paid 300k to 400k rupiah for a hj with lousy service,but i pay 100k to 150k rupiah for a hj with good service. This kind of thing were often seen happening since the beginning of this Batam thread,isnt it? Hehehe...

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S$10/- for 1 hour massage is really something for Singaporean when compared to Singapore massage house for per hour massage. Now, If you go to Bridge Massage, you can get S$8 for 1 hour body massage or S$7 for 1 hour foot massage. However, tour guide will never bring tourists to these places otherwise they have nothing for themselves. It is only people who been to Batam and knows where and how to go will have better bargain.
You got it right! In my point of view,S$0.50 apple usually taste better than the S$1 one from the same tree,hehehe...if the apple keeps changing hand,the apple will become more costly to the one who eats them. Conclusion,find the source of the apple to get the best price,taking out all the middle MEN.

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So, with this Batam thread running as it is, it is going to help many people, if they bother to read.
I read this thread 4 times,i didnt even skip the tcss part. I soon become equipped with lots of Batam information and the understanding why newbie/s keep asking the same questions over and over again. I was penalized like all newbies and i dont like it,so i am using my limited strength to consolidated information here,at the same time try my best not to spoil the newbies and yet still be able to have them go Batam more confidently on their own.


Reading is one thing,understanding whats being read is another. If one bothers to start reading but lacks the understanding of what they have read,they can still ask. But if one fails to 1st read,it can only mean they choose not to help themselves. And if they choose not to 1st help themselves,then even God cannot help them.

As usual,everyone shares a little bit here and there in this thread,over time i can collect quite a lot of information which will make my (or maybe others) future Batam trips better and more enjoyable.
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