Bro ph1970, i oso got zap several times until i stop complaining. Nowadays I dun ask for pts and if any bros who like to zap just let them do it cos the pts doesn't provide any freebies to any TN, WH or KTV! Many seniors I know will do wat they can to save u if they find tat u r sincere.
My advise is just provide and contribute and in return the seniors will know wat to do. Up yr pts and see how many they still want to zap u?