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Originally Posted by KohOnly21

And many of the girls working in these so called clean joint can be booked for in house massage by just asking for their numbers. Hence, the massage can also reduces by around 20% as they earn it without the knowledge of their joint, win win solution. By then, any special request while she's in your room are also easier.

Sometimes it's about hitting the right timing.

This is what i do most of the time,hehehe...and getting to the right places at the right timing is very important for my Batam trips. (not 100% sucess rate of course)

Originally Posted by tomcat007

This works really really well, if you are able to stay firm too. The first time I tried this, I managed to get a very good price for hj at Kings massage. I had foot reflexology there as advised by a bro here. With that price I got, managed to get her top off and even got to auto roam too. Bro's girl was trying to find out how much I paid..

Many a times,massage girls look not-very-up on booking joint girls. They will be curious how much i paid for the booking,i just tell them 1.2 to 1.5 million rupiah and they will know the booking girl is better-looking than them-self (and younger),hehehe...i already win half the battle when they start feeling inferior-ed. Its also a way to tell the massage girls,i can afford (i can count),but i am not stupid,hehehe...

I even get 250k fj from Kings massage before (only recently few trips ago for an in-room massage). I need to said this in advance that this isnt common in Kings,then again its not impossible either.

Originally Posted by iicycold

Overall,i still prefer link up than join yr trip. Bcs I no longer newbie.

Its not called Newbie group trip for nothing,bro. i do welcome most link up tho. Link up or join me,its different. For link up,we simply exchange info ,tho most time it isnt so in depth. For joining me,usually newbie knows little or maybe knows more theoritically hence its called a newbie learning group trip.

2 year plus ago,it is almost near impossible to have a group trip unless bros with the almost same level of experience can come together at the right timing. Today,there are more people with the close enough level playing field and people were more willing to trust another stranger for at least once.

Originally Posted by iicycold

To b fair,I tink beside havin harsh rules,u also try to help em undstd btm & its culture.

If they fail to understand Batam's key cheonging culture and some of the ways they do things,then their future trips may be a problem.They might run into some very serious trouble if they arent careful. And this would be partly my fault becos i didnt guide them well enough.

If they are willing to learn,i am willing to share. If they are looking for some fun,i am willing to help. But if i know they just want to do some other stuffs not in alignment with my trip itinerary,well...why the need to join me?

I dont like to feel or be obliged to any commitment. And if i charge somebody for guiding,i will feel the need to obliged to some level of commitment which i think will spoil my fun in Batam.

Originally Posted by iicycold

It won't be easy 4 newbies to learn wen they r impatient.

Thats one reason why my rules were getting harsher over time. Newbie group trips is getting more time consuming for me as time goes by. I couldnt really do what i wish to do and it somehow restricted my freedom for at least half a day. So not charging them and putting me in some form of disadvantage does gives me some small rights to pick and chose who comes with me and who dont,hehehe...at the least i try to get those who shares the almost similar frequency with me to come along. (not compulsory tho)

Originally Posted by MiG27

I think Hana fares a bit better.....hehehe.
BF not much ppl....I usually take my own sweet time.....hehehe.
My next trip will be in early May...and it will be weekday....so BIZ more likely candidate.

Great! Formosa,Da Vienna,Biz,Hans Inn were some of my favorite hotels to stay in. Cant go very wrong with these hotels. Hana will also be good enough if i dont book girls from New Berry,hehehe...

Originally Posted by MiG27

Interesting....care to share more?

With a stabled connection,i can connect to youtube (or some video sites) for all kinds of KTV Karaoke songs,i can have all the games i ever wanted,i can also have all the porn videos i need and all on a 40' big screen TV. I only need HDMi cable,maybe a VGA cable. And if i ever need any extra sound system,i can easily get a 2nd hand one at DC mall at no more than 200k (which i can either keep it with the reception/housekeeping after use or just throw them away since its a cheap 2nd handed one).

Disco lighting is simple,i have those mini disco sparkle that connect via USB. All is needed is to turn up the curtain,off the lights and I dont really fancy big hotel rooms,hehehe...so my stuffs i need all done up.

Oh,one more thing. If you ever hear some very loud moaning sound of people making love from your neighbouring room/s in Formosa Hotel,it could also likely be "someone" having that particular room connecting his comp to the LCD TV watching porn video. He may have forgotten to tone down the volume of the TV (since most hotel rooms were supposingly sound-proofed) and who knows,may ALSO have forgotten to turn off the video when he steps out of his room,hehehe...i have test try to turn on volume of the TV to try to reach my next room (its my friend's room with all windows and doors closed),the volume need to hit at least 90% of the TV max volume,hehehe...and with 90% volume,its only an almost mere whispering sound in the other next door room. I also pick a smaller sized room to keep the sound compact in it too.

Reason for the test is to minimise disturbance to my neighbouring room whenever i decide to ram up my room's volume,hehehe...

Originally Posted by MiG27

Hmmm.....care to elaborate?
I was thinking of going JKT straight away instead of coming back SG.....

Nothing much to elaborate on this one except on some good food store i heard from some of the taxi driver's customers. We do exchange some intel whenever given the chance. If you didnt ask,i would not have known that i can actually take a plane from Batam to Jakarta,hehehe...

Good sharing,bro.