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Originally Posted by localbest

The fact that the bathtub is just beside or near the mattress make you feel like as though you are lying down in the toilet. Sometime the bathtub wasn't clean properly and could see rusty part in it that really puts me off and not wanting to do mandi susu or milk bath there.

For someone who visit mostly 1st/2nd tier massage places,yes...i agree with what you said. It does feels like i am having a massage in the toilet area,hehehe...wait till you get a VIP room w/o a bathtub one day. Like that also can call it VIP room. It looks like those regular massage room in most Sillypore's MP with no bath area too.

Originally Posted by localbest

I think the bath tub of the 2nd tier massage place or Vienna spa or taiqi spa or even Formosa hotel room bath tub are much pleasant to have mandi susu than those massage place at utama area

Those were considered as 1st tier spa to me.

Originally Posted by localbest

Yes some of the massage cewek at utama area feedback that massage business was real bad, some of them do not even have a customer a day, those with 1 customer per day is consider quite lucky already as the business there is quite competitive due to many massage shops opening up.

I prefer visiting places where there is lesser or not very much business. That way,i would be able to get a better bargain.

Originally Posted by localbest

If you go by rotation, are you not afraid of being assigned an ugly duckling, female elephant or old witch to serve you, hehe.. just joking

Nope,not the slightest bit. Reason as in massage usually only cost between 50k to 70k per hour. I can always have another session and if not saticfactory,yet another session. And for your info,not all elephants,ugly ducklings or old witches are bad. I look for the 'oldest witch' to give me a good dick massage w/o cumming and then had another session in the same place with a prettier girl to help me cum. And if i am too tired after i cum,i can always have yet another hour of pure massage (by either the oldest witch or the prettier girl).

3 hours massage at 70k/hour = 210k

2 times special service at 100k to 150/ session = 300k

Additional tips of 20k-30k per girl = 60k - 90k

Total cost 600k rupiah (or lesser).

This kind of pricing above,in Sillypore can only have ONE session w/o special. And when that happens,if a service is rendered as not-so-good,i want to turn down anything also difficult becos i will still have to pay the price of the initial massage which cost 3 times or more in Batam (as mentioned above).

Whereas in Batam,the situation is very different. I can keep going on a massage hop, girls to girls in the same shop or go to different shops IF the 1st and 2nd service were rendered not-what-i-wish-for. Of course,if in an unlikely event if even the 3rd session is considered not-good-enough,then i will need to go back to bathe flower water,hehehe...

Originally Posted by localbest

Wise investment, spend 4-5 bucks can see all massage cewek face so in return can avoid those not so attractive ones, and take up those better ones...money is more well spend..

That's just one of the method to see all the girls (if not most) in person,but be reminded that the right timing is crucial,especially when all the girls were having lunch or some form of meals which were usually paid by their boss. Some girls however will pretend to take the drinks and later exchange back the drinks for some case with the cashier again.

That ,of course is up to them. Free money in another form,who wouldn't want? But building a name of being "a nice guy" is definitely worth more than the S$4 to S$5...right?

Originally Posted by localbest

Another way to see the massage working girls without the need to spend a single cent is to look into the room where they rest...sometimes the room door was not closed...but may not have a good view of it...

Yes,you are right. That's another method.But I mainly apply your method on booking joint tho,hehehe...becos I know I cannot afford to buy every girl in any booking joint a drink.

Originally Posted by localbest

Fully concurred with you. I ever had a good massage experience with one of the cewek in best and better massage (utama area). However, when I rtm for her again for the second time, the massage service was really bad, not following my request method of massage and her attitude has also changed unlike the first time. I felt that most if not all of the massage shops at utama area were not given proper full training on massage technique. Some of them just learn on the job.

You just make a good point here. Yes,the exact same girl who used to give very good massage and/or special service suddenly had a sharp drop of all her good standard. Hence I have that impression that in Batam,it do not always mean,the higher price you pay,the better the service standard (or result/s) you will get. In fact,i often feel its the direct opposite,hehehe...

Its the impression, chemistry, understanding of a situation that helps me to pay lower and yet be getting an at least satisfactory service. And bargaining can also be a form of communication too,and i do it with a smiling face and a humble heart.

Worse comes to worse,i have no obligation to take up any GQ offer if the price isnt right,as there will always better options in other parts of Batam.

Originally Posted by localbest

But on the other hand, those hotel massage like King's massage of Formosa hotel, the massage cewek have a set of rules to follow and are more well diciplined:

1) They must be punctual for reporting to work and end work. 1st shift starts at 9am-7pm and the second shift starts at 3pm-1am.

2) They must put on make-up and look presentable, those massage cewek who did not make up will get warning from the boss.

3) They are to treat customer politely and any complaint from the customer will get them in trouble..

4) All the King's massage cewek have to undergo 1 month of probation, they will not be hired continuously if their performance is bad.

5) They were given proper training before they are allowed to start work. Their performance are also subject to review by the boss through customer feedback, etc

6) The massage ceweks are not so hard up for tips unlike some utama area massage cewek always pester for tips and special service fees..

All I can say is that in different tier/type of massage places,i would use a different formula (or solution). And in nearly every Batam trips I would share such 'formulas' whereby I know I wouldn't be able to remember them since there are many,hence I recorded it down in all my summaries.

I do read back a lot.

And today,i amm able to get all the King Massage girls from the 2 different shifts who were not on their off days to come to my room,hehehe... not all at one time but few by few in different times thru out the same day morning till evening becos at times, they do have other customers to attend to. (I only pay for one girl)