[warbird]

Originally Posted by roamersg

Thanks bro justime for this thread. I only happened upon it when I saw Warbird had posted as we've traded postings many places and also happen to like the same physical attributes. Ended up reading much of this thread because quite timely--just started a BY. And this time I know it's more dangerous because it's with a KTV woman who's only 164 (shorter than my preference) and, while she's always quite popular, is probably 2nd quintile in terms of my pure physical attraction.......... Reading this thread to remind myself of the warnings and issues, much as Bro DYBJ has previously warned me
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Thanks all Bros for the lessons and guidance! Bro Warbird has been very kind to post his philosophies and more importantly his tactics in other threads, and I have compared those to mine (which are not frankly very systematic) and hopefully improved some

Yo bro roamersg,

Good to hear from u!! Yeah, we both like chio tall gals (165-175) w/ proportionate figure.

I'm just like an armchair general who has virtually no battle experience, hahaha. Therefore, I'm busy trying to get my feet wet wet. I hv been bruised a bit but I'll charge ahead...

Originally Posted by justime

Hi Bro Warbird, just got back last nite. After BKK, went directly to Down Under for a fair bit of negotiation..................

Frankly, I can appreciate why there is the perception of “Trust but verify”. This “Reaganesque” view is due in part because:

1) We know that at the back of our mind our hold on our BY is tenuous at best............

2) We are not confident that our ‘emotional hold’ on her is strong enough to withstand assault from competing Johns. Like it or not, if our prospect are aesthetically pleasing (which they invariably have to be in order to be BY by us), there will be other bees competing to pollinate her flower. We don’t want to see our efforts & money thrown in ‘courting’ her go to waste, especially if we are not done with her yet!

Okay, let me put it thus: the problem of verifying and surveillance occurs only when we are not "done" with our mistress for the present moment. We still want our sexual dalliances with her to go on for a while yet.

(If we are verge of letting her go, we can hardly be bothered. In fact, we encourage duplicitous behaviour because this can be our pretext of dumping her.)

Now I can empathize why such thoughts of verification emanate. I used to hold such notions too. For me however, no surveillance camera etc .. but I did engage PIs to trail my BYs. This is however during my earlier, nascent days of mistressing.

I hardly do so anymore. I can, by now, read very easily the verbal and non verbal cues when my BY lies. Be in this game for a while, it becomes so very easy to tell.

Now the prevailing atttidue is: Even if she does lie, I am not bothered. Since I want her to be at my beck & call, she simply has to be there whenever I need her. In other words, as long she meets my time / scheduling demands, I am alright with it.

As a check, if she happens to go out with her friends which coincides with the time I want her company; I simply say I want to join her & see the company she keeps. Do it randomly, without advance warning. Any excuse by her to say it private/personal matter etc does not cut it.
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Remember an earlier advice on not throwing a hissy fit should you discover her little ‘unfaithful’ dalliances. Remain calm at all times and use this to your advantage.................
And to assuage some curiosity, let me tell you that out of the several times I engaged a PI to investigate my mistresses’ activities, there are no hotel visits or secret tryst of the sexual kind. They are mostly normal “dates” & sometimes a little light snogging and hand holding session. (Note: as far as a BY is concern, they know that they have crossed the line even with that).

I used to get extremely emotional when that happens. But now, I simply calmly assess what whether I want to continue with her....................

And finally, the most important thing is do NOT obsess over the ‘being faithful’ aspect of the relationship. This can be an Achilles heel to you. If you cannot let go of this, your obsession with your BY not keeping her end of the bargain can get to you.

Remember that when you put in emotions & constantly thinking her (even in the context of something unpleasant such as her being unfaithful), it empowers her vis-a-vis yourself. You will find it harder to let go without some ‘emotional damage’ unto yourself.

A detached nonchalance attitude is the best bet! And since I adopt this detached nonchalance attitude several years back, there hasn’t been a single instance of my BY (or even a gf) calling it quits on me because of a better prospect …. It has always been me to call on the shots on whether I want to continue on the transaction/relationship.

Yo bro justime,

You're cool man. I admire ur detached nonchalant attitude.

Your approach to the issue of unfaithfulness is very level-headed n pragmatic.

I agree that it's not difficult to tell if a gal is lying by carefully observing her nonverbal cues n body language, hahaha.

OK, if I know my BAO-ee 偷吃 n If I'm already bored w/ her, I'll just dump her by breaking off all ctc. No explanations necessary. If I still enjoy her pussy, I'll alter the terms in my favor, fxxk her until I'm bored, then dump her.

BTW, thx to u n bro DYBJ, I hv improved my negotiating skill. When a gal wants a long-term commitment, I'll now say YES, IF certain conditions r met...such as if she gives me complete satisfaction, if she is always available, if she doesn't eat outside, if...hehehe. There is a big IF I wont tell her: If I dun get bored w/ her. I'm gradually becoming an overconfident n unflappable bastard.

Cheers!!