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[miumiu6464]

Originally Posted by nono1973

Agree with what you just said, 80k to 150k per shot also available,just that those arent gonna be your type,hehehe...



Regulars do have their advantages,but 500k per pop is still "too" expensive from my own perspective. I remember there was a discussion in the thread about indo girls in Singapore Geylang being priced below the S$40 mark before. The part where those OKT even charge bule double...hmm...



If i am starting an overnight booking joint like that,my 1st step will be to pay this forum their due rights 1st. And then work out some packages advert like :

Weekend Package : 2 juta nett,exclude ferry ticket,include one overnight girl of choice with 1 night of hotel room which includes breakfast.

Weekday Package : 1.5 juta nett,exclude ferry ticket,include one overnight girl of choice with 1 night of hotel room which includes breakfast.

Both packages will include FREE pick up from any Batam Ferry terminal to Hotel and "my joint". Other meals of the trip will be excluded. Grand opening special from xx date to xx date (30 days) gets 20% off package price. Repeat customer/s within 30 days or subsequent visit gets another 10% off or 20% off after Grand Opening promo is over. I may likely throw in 4 free condoms with a 4 shot rules to cripple those 3 shot-rule-joints in Batam too,hehehe...

Anyway,i am just illustrating on the above, becos i know well that if "i" were to have such packages like the above,"i" would not have patronize "my" joint as they were created more for Batam newbies.

(i worked out those pricing base on my signature's Batam Newbie Guide pricing tho)

1. I think the 80k - 150k per fuck and not my type had to be revisited. Someone we both knew just did better than that (much better in fact) and while the girl is not exactly my type, I will take her if given a choice.

2. Usually price I pay these FLs is 400k. While still not the cheapest price, I'm normally getting 20-22 years old and that's even after they agreed to my conditions, which, out of 10, maybe only 2-3 will agreed. (This is tested and verified.) So, in a way, I get less chance of non performers.

Ya, recently someone was saying about Bunga charging 500k for ST and Ailing claiming it's same as what Indonesian charges in Singapore.

Not sure about the Geylang scene now (the only reason I go there nowadays is for the scissors cut curry rice at Lor 35), But the rate for indonesians used to be $35 for 20 minutes, inclusive of rooms. On the surface, I maybe paying more. But, I'm getting 1 hour vs 20 mins, and ssyt getting naked and showering with me vs the lift up skirt and fuck type in Geylang. I think my 400k gives much more value.

3. I think I ever got spammed such a package before. The price is pretty high, couple of jutas. But, confess with discount. The usual raise price by 300% and then give you a 30% discount. Most will not go to the extend of tying up with hotels etc, unless they own the hotel, like one of the Morena shop. It's a pub on level 1, and cannon rooms on level 2. Why go to the extend, when these joints have the entire island's taxi drivers feeding them with customers?

[miumiu6464]

Speaking of fetching/sending to/from any ferry terminal, is the 50K deal by Formosa still applies to all get ferry terminals and airport? I think I got quoted different for going to Batam Centre.

By the way, last trip, I changed $300 at 9,500 at Batam Centre on 22/4, Saturday.

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by nyquist

SUPERMAN MASSAGE - lying flat in Supeman pose and having yr mangoes and banana being plucked by the therapist..

Hehehe...so the Superman word mentioned is referred to yourself and not the girl who does the massage. Look like I mis-read.

Originally Posted by miumiu6464

He just shared half of his conquest. The other half, when I heard it, I literally felt my jaws hitting on my toes.

Originally Posted by miumiu6464

1. I think the 80k - 150k per fuck and not my type had to be revisited. Someone we both knew just did better than that (much better in fact) and while the girl is not exactly my type, I will take her if given a choice.

Believe me,bro. I completely believe what you just said above. Reason is simple,he's one of those guys who broke my 150k a pop record at Altalanta Spa,hehehe...really took my hats off him.

The Grand-Record I heard over my last 3 over years in Batam was 50k rupiah a pop (free pops no count).

Originally Posted by miumiu6464

Ya, recently someone was saying about Bunga charging 500k for ST and Ailing claiming it's same as what Indonesian charges in Singapore.

I told her that was PRC and Thai girl pricing. And NOT indo girl pricing in Singapore Geylang. What I didn't like about that place is what I can get at between 600k to 800k category type of girls there previously in other booking joint were being priced between 1 juta to 1.3 juta and/or above (and I am talking about the exact same girl/s).

Unless Batam really really have no girls left, then maybe will I consider paying Bunga a visit. Bunga don't need customers to survive, each girl there only need 2 to 3 carrots a month (whereas other joint need 15 to 20 customers a month). This is just my own point of view on this place, as I don't like to be taken as a carrot to begin with.

Originally Posted by miumiu6464

Not sure about the Geylang scene now (the only reason I go there nowadays is for the scissors cut curry rice at Lor 35), But the rate for indonesians used to be $35 for 20 minutes, inclusive of rooms. On the surface, I maybe paying more. But, I'm getting 1 hour vs 20 mins, and ssyt getting naked and showering with me vs the lift up skirt and fuck type in Geylang. I think my 400k gives much more value.

This is the almost same words like what my part time boss told me before.

He pays around S$50 to see a naked young girl which is born by a mother who brought her up over the last 20 odd years, and that itself is already worth the price. Of course, thats according to his words.

Originally Posted by miumiu6464

3. I think I ever got spammed such a package before. The price is pretty high, couple of jutas. But, confess with discount. The usual raise price by 300% and then give you a 30% discount. Most will not go to the extend of tying up with hotels etc, unless they own the hotel, like one of the Morena shop.

You reminded me of 'someone' from last year August who send me the below via SBF's PM system,maybe some other senior bros might have received it too :

Originally Posted by <censored>

hi brother

my name is <censored> and i am the website operator for <censored>. We have a small booking house in batam and i have the idea to offer private service for singaporeans who do not know indonesian or feel shy to visit booking joint.

plus i offer delivery to the hotel.

this is first time in batam and i hope this business will be successful.

I notice that you have a popular voice with batam action people so i want to offer you free to try our service and please recommend us.

I hope you will help me boss

Thank you.

The above is not my call to comment during those time. But well,free stuffs in my impression is never good (as nothing is really free in this world). If I took their so-called Freebies,i will need to be the spoke-person for his/her OKT business which i chose to ignore (I didn't reply him). There are others of such in my SBF's PM box too, hence I conclude OKTs (or their girls) in Batam were also viewing this thread.

Some bros might have already fallen for such 'freebie baits' (or they could simply be just plain OKT/s), and with this in mind, I am constantly keeping a look out for anyone who "strongly" recommending any particular cheonging places and/or joints,hehehe... Like I have said before,i crave my own ways to play my own game in Batam. Most of my friends who are experience enough in Batam does that too. And there will never be short of gems. (Batam only got short of dicks, and never pussies)

If we ever meet up the next time round,i might show you more of such PMs (if I haven't already deleted them). And I learned to be extra careful with my words and what I share in this thread nowaday,especially with names,contact details and addresses. I am also trying my best not to breach the forum rules too.

My perspective is simple, pay the forum its due rights 1st,then maybe we can talk and the above quoted user's PM was an ad-payer during then but still, I choose not to talk to him becos his pricing was like what you say in your post, crazily high!!

*Above talks were just for sharing and for my future referencing purposes.

Originally Posted by miumiu6464

Speaking of fetching/sending to/from any ferry terminal, is the 50K deal by Formosa still applies to all get ferry terminals and airport? I think I got quoted different for going to Batam Centre.

Yes,still available and I just use that service in my April 2017 trip. But as usual,i went via Harbour Bay and they use a 16 seater to pick me up. Book with them in advance,keep the hotel's phone number in handy just in case they are late (cannot blame them becos sometime ferry delay).

They will have some holding a sign with your name to try to pick you up,hehehe...I got a good surprise when the hotel bell boy came to pick me up in my last trip,hehehe...

[newyorker88]

So Long no log in, a lot to catch up here😄

[miumiu6464]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

So Long no log in, a lot to catch up here😄

Thought you went drinking with Bro Green Tea.. heh heh

[leekwantew]

Originally Posted by nono1973

I might go to your FR on a later time becos i am still reading it to understand better and sincerely thank you for sharing.

Please do. I'd love to read your comments

[dkdk]

Originally Posted by nono1973

Agree with what you just said, 80k to 150k per shot also available,just that those arent gonna be your type,hehehe...



Regulars do have their advantages,but 500k per pop is still "too" expensive from my own perspective. I remember there was a discussion in the thread about indo girls in Singapore Geylang being priced below the S$40 mark before. The part where those OKT even charge bule double...hmm...



If i am starting an overnight booking joint like that,my 1st step will be to pay this forum their due rights 1st. And then work out some packages advert like :

Weekend Package : 2 juta nett,exclude ferry ticket,include one overnight girl of choice with 1 night of hotel room which includes breakfast.

Weekday Package : 1.5 juta nett,exclude ferry ticket,include one overnight girl of choice with 1 night of hotel room which includes breakfast.

Both packages will include FREE pick up from any Batam Ferry terminal to Hotel and "my joint". Other meals of the trip will be excluded. Grand opening special from xx date to xx date (30 days) gets 20% off package price. Repeat customer/s within 30 days or subsequent visit gets another 10% off or 20% off after Grand Opening promo is over. I may likely throw in 4 free condoms with a 4 shot rules to cripple those 3 shot-rule-joints in Batam too,hehehe...

Anyway,i am just illustrating on the above, becos i know well that if "i" were to have such packages like the above,"i" would not have patronize "my" joint as they were created more for Batam newbies.

(i worked out those pricing base on my signature's Batam Newbie Guide pricing tho)

Actually I did think of free pick up at ferry terminal to hotel check in then to joint and send back. Would need to work out the cost a little more. But package deals are a pretty good idea.

[mygirly]

Originally Posted by dkdk

Actually I did think of free pick up at ferry terminal to hotel check in then to joint and send back. Would need to work out the cost a little more. But package deals are a pretty good idea.

Bro dkdk, I pmed u.

[wolverman]

Originally Posted by dkdk

Actually I did think of free pick up at ferry terminal to hotel check in then to joint and send back. Would need to work out the cost a little more. But package deals are a pretty good idea.

If u have own website with pic of your girls, price and double up like social escorts. I dont mind paying above market rate.

[dkdk]

Originally Posted by wolverman

If u have own website with pic of your girls, price and double up like social escorts. I dont mind paying above market rate.

Cannot double up price lah. That would be missing the point as it's to provide a fair price to newbies while ensuring girls get to make money all while being sustainable.

[dkdk]

Originally Posted by mygirly

Bro dkdk, I pmed u.

Yup. Replied 😊

[sohbuckkong]

Originally Posted by fde83

Thank you Bro leekw

About sri kandy gals even thou they have a selections of ssyt and syt, most of them are into disco/karoake and if bros are not that type, chances are you have shit attitude by them........n

Hi, I have a strange fettish, I love to fuck girls at the time when they are very angry, the more angry they are, the more I enjoy fucking them, I just wonder hv anyone else hv such fettish.

So if I book these gals from sri Kandy and then I don't allow them to go discos etc, will they barge out of my hotel and return to their home base.

I remember a few yrs ago, I did bonk a syt but I can't remember what I did that make her so angry, so on the bed she angrily just open her leg, keep staring at me fuming, but I just don't care and keep fucking her and stare at her back, wow, d more I fuck her the angryier she becomes and d more I enjoy.

[fde83]

Originally Posted by sohbuckkong

on the bed she angrily just open her leg, keep staring at me fuming, but I just don't care and keep fucking her and stare at her back, wow, d more I fuck her the angryier she becomes and d more I enjoy.

Nothing strange to me bro, most importantly u enjoy it. Haha, I cant imagine, she being piss off and yet kena fuck and being pleasured at the same time. Brilliant!!

This gals will never barge out of hotel (to my knowledge) without bros telling them to leave or bro allow them to leave when they ask. Worst case scenario is u got black face by them but do remember not to exceed the 3 bonk because once it's reach that number she will leave whether u like it or not, unless u pay her to bonk more or stay with u till the next day. Just my 50 perak tot

Who's going tomorrow?

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by leekwantew

Took 11.50am ferry (Batamfast), reach at 11.40 batam time

This is like the wonder of Batam,took about an hour to reach and by the time I reach,it still in the same time I depart,hehehe...just curious how much you paid for your Batamfast ferry ticket to reach Harbour Bay ferry terminal?

Originally Posted by leekwantew

Went to buy sim card from the stand just outside the arrival area (opposite 2 money changer) and my eyes pop out when he quote me 100k (I read it was previously 10-50k, times must haved changed). In the end settle for 50k card with limited minutes and 500mb data.

Hmm...you may have got your sim card from here?

Actually,nearly everything in Harbour Bay is more expensive or should I say,most ferry terminal/airports sells their stuffs more expensively. Keep your sim card for your next trip if you are still heading there within a month or so all you need is to top it up at any K-mart (aka 7-11 look-alike) store. There's now one directly at the ground floor of Formosa hotel. Top up any amount also need to pay service charge of 2k more.

Originally Posted by leekwantew

Used sim card to call silvercab, and was quoted 20 mins wait time

If there is still a next trip for yourself, try the method I use.

1. Go to Formosa hotel website,book a room for one night regardless how many night you plan to stay there.

2. Tell them you need their hotel promo pick-up which will cost 50k rupiah 2 way trip (they fetch you from any harbor terminal and then brings you back on your last day).

3. Why I ask you book only one night,even if you plan for more night stay? Becos 1st night will cost you more,subsequent 2nd night onward,join them as member and take up their promo rate :

Did you take up their membership in your last trip???

4. When you book direct with the hotel,and call for pick up via email,they would have someone at the ferry terminal when you arrived and put up your name to be seen by all at the entrance (by hotel staffs). You see your name,you get up that car or van,hehehe...safe and sound till you are home sweet home.

BUT!! This method I use is meant more for solo travelers and not in a group becos 50k per pax,2 pax is gonna cost 100k and so on. And I will simply hail a non-metered taxi if I have more than 1 person with me (since it can be shared).

Note: I hope you already joined them as member,if so just skip no. 1 above.

Originally Posted by leekwantew

Went for lunch, halfway through ordering the food (chicken rice), silvercab call me and say the cab is coming, changed to tapao

Ended up cock up, reach taxi counter call silvercab ask where my taxi silvercab claim cab full (eh hello I book already and you say coming somemore), after 15 mins and a bunch of calls between me, the cabby and the silvercab operator, finally managed to get to cab and got to FOrmosa hotel

In Batam,always be prepare for rubber-band timing. That's why I said in my previous postings NOT to use the Singapore efficiency mentality to look at Batam. Their efficiency can be countered in other ways when you can better understand their culture (and cheap too).

Originally Posted by leekwantew

Ended up reach hotel, room not ready, so sit in Vienna Cafe, ate chicken rice and complimentary drink and got restless, let my friend jaga my stuff and go search (unsuccessfully) for Happy Massage 8 (see above post).

Hehehe...so near,yet so far.

Originally Posted by leekwantew

Finally 2pm got room, deposit barang barang and can go hunting together since rain stop

Clever move!At that time,its already pretty late if you are there during weekends. I am sure you notice the provision at the hotel ground floor.

Ended up seeing the post about Happy 8 and got a girl from there

Originally Posted by leekwantew

Reach hotel with Girl#1 at about 4. Damage 1.1 juta (nego down from 1.3), back at my room, nego for extra shots and she quote me 500k for unlimited, which I agreed to, paid her 300k upfront and told her the rest tomorrow.

If you did that,then you will end up being a carrot (you paid 300k which can be taken as tipping). Paying an extra 500k and at the end of the day you end up only cum thrice. Looks like this is starting to become a trend. There are people trying to create the "3 shot rule" mentality there, so that it will one day turn out to become a "market rate". (those were "bangala" infested places hence certain rules were set for a certain reason/s)

Notice why many good stuffs aren't being share here anymore? Hehehe... newbies need to pay school fee 1st,and the 3 shot rule MAY happens to be one of those so-called "school fees",hehehe...of course,thats solely just my own point of view.

Read all FRs from the other bros,when 1 out of more than 10 FRs tells about "3 bonk rule" and all of a sudden,the 3 bonk rule took a spread all over this thread. Definitely something not right somewhere. This 3 bonk rule is gonna be a long story due to its history before I was even here in this thread (I think I read it before), so I think I will just leave it as it is since I am now replying solely just to your posting/s.

Good to see that you bargained. I sincerely thank you.

Originally Posted by leekwantew

Day#2
My buddy's girl left at 8am, but I told mine the night before, morning fuck again and go breakfast and she ok. Fucked her at 8.30 and couldn't cum again. By this time her attitude totally degenerated and she act totally frustrated and foul mood, keep claiming tired. Ate buffet breakfast at 9 an Vienna and she left after eating (totally forgot about the 20K I owe her hehe)

The timing the girls left show that the girls aren't really interested when you guys picked them,hehehe...or it could be that they pretend to show interest and you guys took the bait. Mind games?

Hehehe...20k or 200k? See? She isn't bothered by the 200k becos she already won when you forked out 300k beforehand.

Originally Posted by leekwantew

After that hangout a while, my buddy call for King's Massage and I went to Nagoya Hill mall shopping.

Rally back at hotel at 12, called Silvercab (meter like 10k but have to pay minimum 25k + 2k parking) and went to Diamond City Mall for lunch

Mall was totally disappointing, lunch at the cafe at 1st floor (mee goreng was good, fried rice was terrible), visit supermarket and buy some stuff

Hmm...if I go to any Malls ,it will be becos I am looking for something. It is good to move around to see which malls or places has the stuffs you are looking for and in future if you ever need them, simply go direct to it. DC malls is something like those Sim Lim Square shopping in Sillypore during the 80s,hehehe...I go there to get computer spare parts or to buy stuffs to spice my private hotel room in Batam,hehehe...not expensive and i get to have a good time thru out my trips.

Originally Posted by leekwantew

Call silvercab again and went to Batam Star Hotel to look for Goldbird

Ended up cirle the area cannot find, fired up SBF and got more specific directions that it was directly behind Batam Star

Ended up my buddy cheongster instinct led him to it (we only passed it by like twice

You know in this thread alone,how many newbies couldn't find the place using their legs? Hehehe...more than you could imagine. And you are lucky to find it. The whole of Gold Bird area is like a gold mine to me. Not just Gold Bird itself but that 600m radius of it. Its a gold mine that contain gems. Cheap and good gems (other than Link's KTV which isn't in my gold mine list).

Originally Posted by leekwantew

Went in and the mummy quite friendly, had my eye on one girl but was still undecided, ended another bro came in and the mummy ask me if I still want the girl, I say let the new bro decide first and he picked the one I was eyeing! Decided to fold my hand and as I was leaving the place he ask me if I also want that girl and I say nevermind la, it's ok (From Mr Orange to Mr Blue: You have good taste and I wish you happy bonking!)

I hope he's happy with his girl too.

One of the golden rule,pick girls that shows interest. Be humble,be nice and drop expectation by at least half.

Originally Posted by leekwantew

Cab back to hotel and was a bit frustrated so i walk to Sri Kandy/Kupuku again alone (my buddy no mood)

Its a new scene,a newbie trip. Avoid getting frustrated so as not to spoil the trip. Its good to look everywhere and see everything,knows what Batam has to offer,and later on go in search of "your needs".

Every step is an experience. Every dirt on your fingers could mean gems in your hands later,hehehe...

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by leekwantew

Picked a girl from Sri Kandy (1.1 juta) and tried finding taxi, the guy sitting outside quoted me 100k then say 50k, I told him I cab from hotel to DC mall only 30K and he dunwan. Ended up call silvercab. While waiting my girl got fed up and she say dunwan work liao, so ended up pick another girl. Silvercab still didnt come in that time and people were geetting angsty, ended up pangseh silvercab and take another taxi where the driver agree to 30k

Like i say earlier,patience is gold. You may have did the right thing with the taxi thingy,but i would still say,next time try walking around your hotel. Once you learn to walk and familiarize with Batam,taxi drivers will be at your mercy,hehehe...

1. Behind Formosa is Nagoya City Walk Mall.

2. The other end of City Walk Mall is Biz Hotel.

3. Once you can get to Biz Hotel,follow this track below :

( Click to show/hide )

Of course if you are with girls and they are wearing high heels,then they might not enjoy walking. BUT if you got a non-picky girl,you will know you might have got yourself a GEM ,hehehe...i look at it as you just saved yourself 1.1 juta on this one.

Originally Posted by leekwantew

Similarly to day 1 reach hotel at 4+, Girl#2 I feel is hotter than Girl #1 but her attitude really not good because everything cannot. Clear first shot and she keep trying to rush me for 2nd shot. 6.30 try again but didnt cum. She keep asking me to tapao for her but i refuse and ended up go together with my friend to the Tea something cafe and eat dinner.

After dinner she just bo hue me watch TV, 9pm try again. After fucking I told her that she can leave (Because no point keping ber around, breakfast dun wan and I'm probably not getting any more rounds).

Hangout with my friend till 2am then sleep

I didn't know where you get girl number 2 from until i read further downward. Bro,do give Kupu another chance if you are there the next time round. There are definitely gems there,its your luck that you didn't get it,but you sure can write off Sri Kandy,hehehe....lots of bros here (and my other online friends) has got "their own definition" of good girls there.

Just remember,a place where there are good girls,will surely also have bad girls,hehehe...you just need to bathe flower water. There are no place where there are only good girls and no bad girls ;and vice versa.

Originally Posted by leekwantew

Day#3
Woke up went breakfast then call girl from King's Massage (#18 if anyone wants to know) for 2 hour Thai massage

No,i don't want to know (joking here),hehehe...to me 500k fj is on the high side. But i don't want to make comparison between you and me (not fair) becos i knew practically every girl there.

Originally Posted by leekwantew

90 mins in she pop the golden question, and since she did do a good job with the massage I negoed fucking with her, initially she quote 100k for 1 shot and managed to bargain to 50K
Attitude wise she is the best of the 3 though she had tummy fats and was probaby the oldest of the 3 also

50k or 500k?

"My friend tells me Batam is 100k HJ and 200k FJ..."

The above said words is no longer applicable for me in Kings massage becos almost all the girls there heard that from me before,hehehe...but they should still be pretty useful for newbies.

Next time try this,go for an hour massage 1st,after 45 mins you will most likely be pop the golden question, take up the special if her price is right. Then after the 1 hour is up, request to EXTEND another hour,hehehe...and request for her to do the massage naked,hehehe...of course this must tip a bit extra but wont cost very much. I think you might enjoy better...anyway,its just a suggestion, choice is still yours to make.

You MAY end up getting "something else" and/or "something more". Most likely it is gonna be a refreshing experience too. There are more tricks up my sleeves but i would just share up to here 1st,hehehe...most important thing is step one must be right 1st.

Originally Posted by leekwantew

Finished the deed and I didn't want to disturb my friend so ownself went to recce Permata Indah. They painted the building so I didn't see it initially, but there was only a big banner advertising the place so....

Sounds like you are planning for a next trip soon,hehehe...

Originally Posted by leekwantew

Reach hotel at 1, check out, and since I ran out of minutes (my friend plan totally no minutes) and hotel won't let me call silvercab or bluebird, ended up take 50k taxi to terminal for the 2.15 ferry

No need to surf internet on the streets of Batam,bro. Hotel wifi should be more than sufficient for internet access. Save what you need from your hotel and then start moving around. Anything goes wrong or lost in the street,just go to any hotel to call a taxi or take a 50k ride back to your own hotel will do.

Originally Posted by leekwantew

Points to takeaway:

1. Prices for the girls seem a bit steep, maybe it's because my nego skills/strategy poor or because i not old customer
2. Silvercab vs non metered taxi: Silvercab is guranteed 20 mins wait and saves you like $3, maybe next time will just be more liberal with cash and take those non metered taxi. Personally I don't feel safe in the non metered taxi so maybe Silvercab is an option if you can plan ahead
3. Experience with the girls: To me only Girl #3 is good, maybe my expectation too high or my picking skill not good
4. I think can write off Sri Kandy and Kupupu, they only failed us twice . Next trip (if there is a next trip) will be Goldbird/Permata Indah/Happy Massage 8
5. The most selection are Happy Massage 8 and Permata Indah
6. Malls are boring in general, Nagoya Hill Mall feels like a Malaysian mall and prices are not particularly cheap (maybe 75% of Singapore). Diamond City Mall is like Tanjong Katong Mall -_- Maybe should have tried Harbour Bay Mall but my expectations for these now are really lowered

Damage
Girl#1: 1.1 Juta + 300K
Girl#2: 1.1 Juta + 50k taxi
Girl#3: 200k Massage + 500k FJ

1. Why is the price steep? I doubt anywhere in Asia within an hour ferry ride can "rent" you an overnight lady for about S$115.00 a night? I believe when you mean a bit steep it is more due to their service level and attitude via the price you paid for. But like i tell many of my friends when we go Batam,an overnight girl in Batam were not trained,they were like yourself, were almost complete stranger to the one who booked them. So the part about breaking the ice and helping one another to understand one another falls on both party.

And if one were to bring those attitude that "i am the pay-master and you are the pay-receiver, you must serve me like a King" kind of mentality to Batam, then i am afraid Batam or maybe even the whole of Indonesia will have very little suitable girls.

I got the above conclusion from my past newbie group trips organized by me.

2. No need to brood over non-metered taxis. They are generally quite safe unless you are like me trying to go the EXTRA MILES,hehehe...the whole of Nagoya is like Yishun Town,you can walk or you can take a taxi. Knows the way via walking and they will be at your mercy. When you need to buy time,taxi is one of your choice. But if you have plenty of time, use kinetic energy. Time is money,hehehe...

One more thing,how come don't utilize the hotel taxi service? 50k for a 2 way round trip? (from ferry terminal and back) You have a phone line ,you have the hotel name card,you can also work miracles if you plan things properly.

Below is the Formosa hotel NORMAL taxi charges which is pretty similar to other hotels in Batam for your reference :

Hotel guest get to have the 50k for 2 way promo, bro. Talk to the receptionist.

3. If you think girl number 3 is good,then you will need to go to places where there are more of girl number 3,hehehe...almost everywhere in Batam also have but you will have to be careful that girl number 3 type were old birds in Batam, meaning they are very experience with their customers. Believe me,bro...i know which girl you talk about when you mention her number becos i am looking at her photo as i type this post,hehehe...

4. Bro,each joint you mention (Sri Kandy and Kupukupu) has an average of about 20 over girls.You and your friends only bonk one from each. You havent reach a point to judge if the joint is good or not yet. Not going to repeat which one you can write off and which one you shouldn't as i already talk about that earlier. The decision is afterall yours to make.

Gold Bird,Happy8 and Permata Indah? How about Memory? Link's? You still have not try Alishan KTV huh? Hehehe...which is upstairs of Formosa Hotel,booking can cost around 1.4 to 1.6 juta.No need to buy drinks or book KTV room. But quality wise...go have a look,you might be surprise.

5. You got that right,Permata Indah currently has the most number of girls and 2nd place should be Happy 8.

6. If DC Mall is like Tanjong Katong Mall,then Harbour Bay mall would most likely be like an almost closed down Tanjong Katong mall,hehehe...well,other than the theater in it. Price of many things in Batam is mainly cheaper than Sillypore but more uncommonly cheaper than in Malaysia. Cheaper stuffs rarely appears in Nagoya Hill Mall or Ferry terminal where most tourist dwell.

This reply took me quite a while to read and reply. Hope no one quote my whole post.

Cheers!

And may you have a better next Batam trip.