My last straw on local's Spa scene, what is your take?

[cheesed]

Originally Posted by rapier1978

Bro understand how you feel. Such ML i will tell them take it or leave it this is the last visit. Not Happy call police lor. There are so much choices for us now

This is what I would do too. There’s rarely such a thing as customer loyalty in this scene. Not to mention most times the more comfortable they with you, the more the svc levels drops.

[sladang]

Originally Posted by cheesed

This is what I would do too. There’s rarely such a thing as customer loyalty in this scene. Not to mention most times the more comfortable they with you, the more the svc levels drops.

Yeah, very true!

The closer we moved into, the lesser the service is rendered

So hv to play the game at the rite pace, more importantly play smart & play safe, tio bo? ..

[UltimateMortal]

Well quite normal for price to increase in Singapore. Not just services, just in general. And also the business owners generally quite greedy not always the fault of the ML but it is what it is.

Although I feel like your regular ML treated you damn badly, really just treat you like a carrot head.

The services being cheaper overseas is quite normal also. Only issue for some people is whether they can spare the time to travel or even allowed to travel since some with wives/girlfriends.

So I think that there will always be a demand for the services here even if the prices do go up.

[Fallout]

Spoken to a young viet ML before and she told me that a lot of the customers that are tipping above average are those old uncles or retirees with a lot of money on hand. They have a lot of free time and often visit at non-peak period to try all the Ang pai/syt ML in the spa.

They tend to pay the cheapest entry so they are able to give more tips. The counter usually also won’t hardsell them because of non-peak hours (e.g 9am).

But because of the additional tips, it will cause a snowball effect. Making ML think that we are willing to pay such high prices.

[arousedsmock]

Originally Posted by UltimateMortal

Well quite normal for price to increase in Singapore. Not just services, just in general. And also the business owners generally quite greedy not always the fault of the ML but it is what it is.

Although I feel like your regular ML treated you damn badly, really just treat you like a carrot head.

The services being cheaper overseas is quite normal also. Only issue for some people is whether they can spare the time to travel or even allowed to travel since some with wives/girlfriends.

So I think that there will always be a demand for the services here even if the prices do go up.

Originally Posted by Fallout

Spoken to a young viet ML before and she told me that a lot of the customers that are tipping above average are those old uncles or retirees with a lot of money on hand. They have a lot of free time and often visit at non-peak period to try all the Ang pai/syt ML in the spa.

They tend to pay the cheapest entry so they are able to give more tips. The counter usually also won’t hardsell them because of non-peak hours (e.g 9am).

But because of the additional tips, it will cause a snowball effect. Making ML think that we are willing to pay such high prices.

why got 2 new account copy and paste what others wrote in the first page...

[sladang]

Originally Posted by arousedsmock

why got 2 new account copy and paste what others wrote in the first page...

Think these 2 accounts are from the same clone la ..

One post at 06:52pm, the other at 06:53pm, both posts copied from page 1

Cannot be 2 different new accounts from 2 different persons, suddenly copy 2 different posts from the same thread in the same page & post them at the same time ba? :

[BTSboy]

The $68 entrance fee paid by customers goes entirely to the owner, not the massage ladies (MLs). This fee is a significant source of income for the boss. The MLs themselves are primarily dependent on tips, which explains their efforts to encourage higher tips from customers. I have close relationships with a few MLs, and some, particularly young and attractive Vietnamese women who are new to the business, are willing to accept as little as $30 for a handjob (HJ). In contrast, Ah tiong MLs tend to be more street smart and savvy in their dealings.
My regular ML informed me that on a slow day, she might only see 3-4 customers.

Let's consider a worst-case scenario: if an ML serves 4 customers, each paying the $68 entrance fee, that totals $272 ($68 x 4). If there are 6 MLs in the shop, the daily gross revenue from entrance fees alone would be approximately $1,632 ($272 x 6). Over a month, this projects to a gross revenue of around $48,960 ($1,632 x 30 days). Even after deducting expenses like rent, utilities (water and electricity), and supplies such as baby oil and showering liquid, the owner can still expect to generate a substantial five-figure profit, likely $20,000 or more per month.

That is what consumers are paying for.

[XSaint]

Originally Posted by BTSboy

The $68 entrance fee paid by customers goes entirely to the owner, not the massage ladies (MLs). This fee is a significant source of income for the boss. The MLs themselves are primarily dependent on tips, which explains their efforts to encourage higher tips from customers. I have close relationships with a few MLs, and some, particularly young and attractive Vietnamese women who are new to the business, are willing to accept as little as $30 for a handjob (HJ). In contrast, Ah tiong MLs tend to be more street smart and savvy in their dealings.
My regular ML informed me that on a slow day, she might only see 3-4 customers.

Let's consider a worst-case scenario: if an ML serves 4 customers, each paying the $68 entrance fee, that totals $272 ($68 x 4). If there are 6 MLs in the shop, the daily gross revenue from entrance fees alone would be approximately $1,632 ($272 x 6). Over a month, this projects to a gross revenue of around $48,960 ($1,632 x 30 days). Even after deducting expenses like rent, utilities (water and electricity), and supplies such as baby oil and showering liquid, the owner can still expect to generate a substantial five-figure profit, likely $20,000 or more per month.

That is what consumers are paying for.

I think it depends on different bosses ba. I also heard from some of the ML, that they will also draw a certain amount from the entrance, that's why they ask u for a top-up from 68 to 88 or 108.

[DannyW]

Originally Posted by Fallout

Spoken to a young viet ML before and she told me that a lot of the customers that are tipping above average are those old uncles or retirees with a lot of money on hand. They have a lot of free time and often visit at non-peak period to try all the Ang pai/syt ML in the spa.

They tend to pay the cheapest entry so they are able to give more tips. The counter usually also won’t hardsell them because of non-peak hours (e.g 9am).

But because of the additional tips, it will cause a snowball effect. Making ML think that we are willing to pay such high prices.

Lol i heard same story from a viet ML from a shop along Balestier rd. She told me there is this old uncle who comes every week, every time he will tip $200 with minimal services required. Sometimes he also called 2 3 girls to the room and tipped them one by one haha. I take it with a pinch of salt but u never know there such uncle dun how to spend monthly cpf money.

[Anotherboi]

Previously I got a regular ML, she mentioned to me that they all have a monthly quota they need to hit otherwise will have penalty. So that might be the reason they want to upsell more expensive package.

But thats their business, no reason for us to pay more for entrance unless you are also looking for longer massage.

My regular in the end ask me to take up 2 hour package and foc HJ cause business really too poor (one reason might be due to her not syt and not ang pai). So we have to stay strong and not let our small head take over. Any shop entrance more than 70 i straight ignore even if other ppl say the ML until heaven, there's always other fishes in the ocean.

[Anotherboi]

Originally Posted by DannyW

Lol i heard same story from a viet ML from a shop along Balestier rd. She told me there is this old uncle who comes every week, every time he will tip $200 with minimal services required. Sometimes he also called 2 3 girls to the room and tipped them one by one haha. I take it with a pinch of salt but u never know there such uncle dun how to spend monthly cpf money.

Yah I hear before also, cannot win those rich retired uncle or rich angmoh, no point fight with them also just change playground lor.

one ML I used to go to kena spoilt by such rich uncles then start to open lion mouth think she got golden pussy. I just delete her ctc after the last visit.

[loneyheart]

Originally Posted by Anotherboi

Previously I got a regular ML, she mentioned to me that they all have a monthly quota they need to hit otherwise will have penalty. So that might be the reason they want to upsell more expensive package.

But thats their business, no reason for us to pay more for entrance unless you are also looking for longer massage.

My regular in the end ask me to take up 2 hour package and foc HJ cause business really too poor (one reason might be due to her not syt and not ang pai). So we have to stay strong and not let our small head take over. Any shop entrance more than 70 i straight ignore even if other ppl say the ML until heaven, there's always other fishes in the ocean.

Smart MLs to hit their monthly quota will not upsell more expensive package ... she will give more better svc n GFE at a market good price so as u will return as regular ... tat alone will be NP for what sort of quota

[BTSboy]

Originally Posted by DannyW

Lol i heard same story from a viet ML from a shop along Balestier rd. She told me there is this old uncle who comes every week, every time he will tip $200 with minimal services required. Sometimes he also called 2 3 girls to the room and tipped them one by one haha. I take it with a pinch of salt but u never know there such uncle dun how to spend monthly cpf money.

Haha 😂 I heard such stories too! My regular ML told me a senior Ah peh in his sixties, who visits at least once every week and reportedly gives $200 for a HJ.(Shes from CAT 1 MP) He also apparently tried to "unlock" her by inviting her to a hotel for a massage, which she politely declined. The girls apparently refers to him as "老头子”

This senior man’s ego probably believe money is the only way to gain favor with the women, as a smaller payment $30-$50 wouldn't make him as "popular”

There are also other wealthy clients that will buy house (pay for several hours example:5 hours at $68/hour, totaling $340) just to take a ML out for a meal, and then pay extra to "unlock" them.

The ones who suffer the most are "average Joes" like myself, who can't afford such high prices and therefore "lose out on many opportunities”

"CASH is really king."

[taumajid2003]

Originally Posted by BTSboy

The $68 entrance fee paid by customers goes entirely to the owner, not the massage ladies (MLs). This fee is a significant source of income for the boss. The MLs themselves are primarily dependent on tips, which explains their efforts to encourage higher tips from customers. I have close relationships with a few MLs, and some, particularly young and attractive Vietnamese women who are new to the business, are willing to accept as little as $30 for a handjob (HJ). In contrast, Ah tiong MLs tend to be more street smart and savvy in their dealings.
My regular ML informed me that on a slow day, she might only see 3-4 customers.

Let's consider a worst-case scenario: if an ML serves 4 customers, each paying the $68 entrance fee, that totals $272 ($68 x 4). If there are 6 MLs in the shop, the daily gross revenue from entrance fees alone would be approximately $1,632 ($272 x 6). Over a month, this projects to a gross revenue of around $48,960 ($1,632 x 30 days). Even after deducting expenses like rent, utilities (water and electricity), and supplies such as baby oil and showering liquid, the owner can still expect to generate a substantial five-figure profit, likely $20,000 or more per month.

That is what consumers are paying for.

That is why I always call out not to support greedy owner ! go support the 50-55 + 50 type of spa ! The 68 and above type is the greedy owner who wins it all !

[Kapo87]

All supply and demand, see who can be the last one standing