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lacoruna69
28-11-2011, 02:18 PM
yes, pool did us a favour by holding city last nite. else city would have been 7pts ahead already. proves that city can stumble too.

one thing that may work against united is that if city is really knocked out of the champs league, they will have one less distraction of euro football (i doubt if mancini will take the europa league seriously) and will therefore concentrate on winning the premier league. they will take some serious stopping then.

Up to this point, still not sure what Mancini's priorities lies.
UCL is $$$$ pot.
Yes...talking of UCL....
Seemed like Serie A mid table Napoli got a way to stop Man City.
They draw at Eastlands and beat them at San Paolo......
Cavani scored all the goals.

mr_missile
29-11-2011, 09:12 AM
Up to this point, still not sure what Mancini's priorities lies.
UCL is $$$$ pot.
Yes...talking of UCL....
Seemed like Serie A mid table Napoli got a way to stop Man City.
They draw at Eastlands and beat them at San Paolo......
Cavani scored all the goals.

i don't think mancini is targetting the UCL this season. he mentioned something like man city won't win the UCL in a news report recently.

city won the FA cup last season to break their duck in terms of trophy-less seasons. they will gun for the EPL this time round.

the bookmakers have installed them as early favourites to win the EPL. united is 2nd favourites followed by chelski.

napoli played very well in the 2 games vs city. not just cavani, but marek hamsik too. and city are rumoured to be interested in buying these 2 players already. :rolleyes:

omnia
29-11-2011, 10:49 AM
if i were the 2 mancs...i wld be more concerned abt Spurs...



the bookmakers have installed them as early favourites to win the EPL. united is 2nd favourites followed by chelski.

mr_missile
29-11-2011, 02:35 PM
if i were the 2 mancs...i wld be more concerned abt Spurs...

hi bro, welcome to the thread. :)

you do have a point there. current favourites are as what i have posted. spurs' odds have been slashed though, reflecting their current hot form. :)

even the gunners too. they were 4th favourites at the start of the campaign and saw their odds shoot up with the drop in form for the 1st few games. now their odds are being slashed again. thks to a certain rvp!

oh ya, got to thank u reds for holding our "noisy neighbours" on sunday. :p

mr_missile
01-12-2011, 05:51 PM
Fergie fumes at United showing

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson apologised to fans after his side were dumped out of the Carling Cup by Crystal Palace.

Glenn Murray headed an extra-time winner as the Championship outfit claimed a memorable 2-1 quarter-final win at Old Trafford.

Ferguson, who had made 10 changes for the tie, paid tribute to the visitors but was far from impressed by the performance of his own players.

He told MUTV: "I don't know where to start to be honest.

"My apologies are to the fans because that was not a Manchester United performance.

"I don't want to take anything away from Crystal Palace. I wish them every success and hope they get to the final because it was a fantastic, mammoth effort from them tonight. Every one of their players worked their socks off to try to get to the semi-final.

"I am just very disappointed."

Palace took the lead with a stunning goal from Darren Ambrose on 65 minutes but United looked the most likely to progress after Federico Macheda replied from the penalty spot.

Yet Palace dug deep and grabbed the winner in the 98th minute when Murray, despite being close to straying offside, nodded in an Ambrose free-kick.

Ferguson said: "When it went to extra time I thought we must win but it was not to be.

"Obviously the goal was offside - the second goal - from what I have seen.

"We are not getting any luck from linesmen just now but I can't take that away from Crystal Palace. They fought hard to get the result and they deserve it."

Goalscorer Ambrose savoured a "great occasion".

"It's fantastic," Ambrose told Sky Sports 1.

"It was a great occasion coming here against the champions.

"It was a massive occasion for the fans."

Cardiff await in the last four after the draw was made following the match, meaning one npower Championship club will take on either Manchester City or Liverpool at Wembley.

Wednesday night's win was made all the more remarkable by a poor run of Championship form, which has seen Palace go five games without a win or a goal.

"We've had a quiet period in the season but we came here in confident mood and the spirit is fantastic," Ambrose continued.

"We've got a great team spirit, it's a lot different from last year - we can beat anyone, and we showed that tonight.

"We weren't worried about the lack of goals, we've got goalscorers and that showed tonight, it was a great finish from Glenn on the second."

Manager Dougie Freedman, who has earned plaudits for his work since taking over a cash-strapped club midway through last season, added: "It's a wonderful night for the club, especially given the position we've been in the last few years.

"To play at Old Trafford tonight, we're privileged, the lads learnt a lot from tonight.

"I think we deserved it. We played some stuff, some good football.

"We thought if we came with a gameplan that could be stuck to and everybody played eight, nine, 10 out of 10 we could do it."

omnia
01-12-2011, 07:21 PM
tks for the warm welcum bro...:)

to me Spurs look like a big real threat for this season's title...in fact i think Spurs hv the best midfield attack at the mo...perhaps even better than Citeh...if they r able to maintain such form n i dont c why not becoz this time rd they do seem to hv that strength in depth which they lacked previously then they sld be there r thereabts cum next May...more so now that spurs look headed out of the europa league so not much distractions left...

cuming to the red devils...looks like they r now appearing to miss paul scholes badly n the young ones still need time to find their way...if fergie cant get it right in midfield by the close of the winter transfer window then i think man u shall struggle to retain the title...in fact i wld even stick my neck out further n say united may even struggle to be in the top 2...

gooners?...think they r too reliant on van persie n their young ones still need more time to find their way...so dont think they will be in the top 2 or even top 3 cum next May...particularly wif Wilshire still out of action...however if arsene pulls out a magic rabbit r two cum the winter transfer window than u never can tell what may happen...but as it stands i cant see this happening...

must also give a headup to the magpies...interesting to c where newcastle lie in the table after xmas/newyr period...

as for my beloved reds...on balance think the reds sld hv taken the full 3 pts off Citeh on sunday...still it was a great match n if u told me the match was going to be a draw beforehand i wld gladly hv taken it, just being greedy mate!...also enjoyed the antics of that wonder boy/man twat Balotelli especially his exchange wif mancini when he was sent off n his tantrum in the dressing room later where he apparently broke the dressing room door in a fit of anger!!::rolleyes:...as an aside big sad blow for the reds at the bridge on tues night notwithstanding a great win agast the Chavs wif Lucas getting a cruciate ligament injury which rules him out for the rest of the season...now going to be real tough for the reds to get a top 4 spot:(

cheerios
hi bro, welcome to the thread.

you do have a point there. current favourites are as what i have posted. spurs' odds have been slashed though, reflecting their current hot form.

even the gunners too. they were 4th favourites at the start of the campaign and saw their odds shoot up with the drop in form for the 1st few games. now their odds are being slashed again. thks to a certain rvp!

oh ya, got to thank u reds for holding our "noisy neighbours" on sunday. :p

mr_missile
05-12-2011, 07:48 AM
Jones goal keeps United in hunt

Phil Jones scored his first career goal as Manchester United cut the gap at the top of the table to five points with a 1-0 win at Aston Villa.

Jones struck after 20 minutes as United extended their unbeaten league run at Villa Park to 16 years.

Sir Alex Ferguson's side climbed back above Tottenham, who had briefly gone second with their win earlier this afternoon, and remained five points adrift of Manchester City after dominating for long periods.

The down side for the Red Devils was the early loss of striker Javier Hernandez with a serious-looking ankle injury, though they overcame his absence with relative ease.

Jones was given licence to go forward in midfield with Michael Carrick operating in the holding role, while Chris Smalling also did well in shackling Villa's most potent threat in Gabriel Agbonlahor for long periods.

Villa, meanwhile, confirmed winger Charles N'Zogbia had been left out of their match plans for an undisclosed breach of club discipline.

But they also suffered a double injury setback during the game with keeper Shay Given (leg) and Jermaine Jenas (ankle) both stretchered off.

Villa looked more threatening in the second period but could have no complaints with the outcome.

United winger Ashley Young was greeted with boos from some sections of the home fans on his return to Villa Park.

United suffered an early setback when Hernandez appeared to twist his ankle when it became caught in the Villa Park surface after turning sharply.

There was a lengthy delay while Hernandez received treatment but he was unable to continue and was stretchered off and replaced by Antonio Valencia.

It came as no surprise when Jones put United ahead with a clinical finish after 20 minutes.

Patrice Evra released the overlapping Nani and his cross was met by Jones who volleyed past Given from close range.

Villa could not get a foothold in the game and it needed a fine save from Given to prevent United doubling their lead.

Young provided the probing cross from the right of the area and Nani's powerful header was turned aside by the Republic of Ireland keeper.

There was a brief moment of danger from Villa when Barry Bannan ran on to a reverse ball from Agbonlahor inside the United box but he over-ran the ball.

But United were the dominant force and Antonio Valencia curled a 25-yard effort just wide after no-one had closed him down.

Given had to be replaced by Brad Guzan after 38 minutes after hurting his leg when racing out of his area to clear.

The second period began in the same vein as the opening 45 minutes with United dominating proceedings.

Wayne Rooney tried his luck from 25 yards out and his shot skidded just past the post.

Then Bannan made a crucial block on Nani's shot from near the penalty area, then Anders Lindegaard clung onto a teasing cross-shot from Agbonlahor in a rare Villa attack.

Jenas became the third player to be substituted after 64 minutes with a serious-looking ankle injury and he also had to be stretchered off.

Villa substitute Emile Heskey almost made an instant impact as he headed wide at the far post after Richard Dunne had flicked on a corner from Bannan.

Young dragged a low 20-yard effort only a couple of feet wide after brushing off the challenge of Bannan.

But Villa were at last showing some menace with Lindegaard turning over a Collins header from a Dunne centre.

Young curled a sot straight at Guzan after good play by Ryan Giggs but could not score against his former team-mates before being substituted after 78 minutes.

Rooney had a quiet afternoon but was just too high with a snap shot after exchanging passes with Carrick.

Substitute Danny Welbeck had the ball in the net in the 90th minute but had strayed offside.

mr_missile
05-12-2011, 07:52 AM
City to host United in FA Cup

Holders Manchester City face rivals United in the FA Cup third round, Arsenal host Leeds, Spurs face Cheltenham and Tamworth travel to Everton.

United defender Rio Ferdinand welcomed the cup clash with neighbours City.

The teams will meet again on the weekend of January 7-8 in a rematch of last season's semi-final which Roberto Mancini's side won before going on to lift the cup with victory against Stoke.

Ferdinand tweeted: "3rd round FA cup game vs mancity..great game to kick off this yrs FA cup, can't wait."

mr_missile
08-12-2011, 08:03 AM
Basel brush off United hopes

Manchester United surprisingly crashed out of the Champions League following a 2-1 defeat at Basel on Wednesday night.

They were always up against it at St-Jakob Park once Marco Streller had given the hosts a ninth-minute lead.

Though they grew in dominance as the match went on, the elusive equaliser would not come.

Wayne Rooney, who faces a UEFA disciplinary hearing in nearby Nyon on Thursday, wasted their best chance, with Markus Steinhofer belting the ball against his own crossbar midway through the second half.

Alexander Frei added Basel's second eight minutes from time, although United did not go down without a fight.

Phil Jones grabbed a lifetime near the end but the visitors were unable to conjure up a miracle second, leaving Basel to celebrate the greatest night in their history.

In stark contrast, United are counting the massive financial implications of exiting at this stage for the first time since 2005, the lost millions hitting the Glazer family where it hurts the most.

On that occasion, United at least avoided the humiliation of appearing in the Europa League.

Not this time though. After the catastrophe of their 300th European game, United's 301st will be played on a Thursday night.

By half-time, a night that started with the prospect of having to face a fellow European heavyweight in the last 16 was turning towards the prospect of a meeting with Vaslui, Legia Warsaw or Maccabi Haifa.

Although they had started well, United suffered an early hammer blow Ferguson cannot have expected.

A penalty area collision between Nemanja Vidic and Chris Smalling offered Xherdan Shaqiri the opportunity to collect a loose ball and drive a long way down the by-line before drilling a cross across the visitors' goal.

It was not an easy moment for David de Gea. But the young Spaniard might have chosen a better option than to lunge at the ball with his feet, succeeding only in turning it to Streller, whose first-time shot bounced in.

For a good while afterwards United struggled to find an answer to Basel's blanket defence, an ominous sign in itself given the essential need for a goal.

Nani was their best hope, daring opposition defenders to lunge in before escaping their presence with a burst of acceleration.

He must have thought it had done the trick when he sent a low cross to the far post that appeared to set Rooney up with a tap-in at the far-post. Inexplicably, the striker failed to make proper contact.

Park Ji-sung could not react quickly enough either and Yann Sommer snuffed out the danger.

Sommer denied Nani and Ashley Young as the pressure began to mount, with Phil Jones having a shot blocked too.

But the second shattering moment of the half came in the final minute when Vidic and Streller chased down possession, got their legs tangled up and hit the deck.

The Serbian immediately called for assistance and medical staff wasted no time stretchering him down the tunnel, triggering the introduction of Jonny Evans and much half-time soul-searching within the visitors' ranks.

It was the type of situation Roy Keane excelled in.

Sadly for United, the Irishman's presence was limited to that of touchline TV analyst.

Rooney was presented with yet another opportunity four minutes after the restart when Giggs sent him clean through.

The angle was not great but, after opening his body to make room for the curling shot to the far corner, the effort sailed wide.

Even for a team of United's stature, hauling themselves back from two goals down would have been virtually impossible, so De Gea's brilliant fingertip save to turn over Alexander Frei's goalbound free-kick was priceless.

And the visitors so nearly benefited from an outrageous slice of good fortune when, in attempting to hack Nani's cross clear at the far post, Steinhofer succeeded only in rattling the crossbar.

It was one of those moments when fans start to wonder whether this is going to be their night. Rooney heading Nani's cross over from close range was another although, as the striker was offside anyway, it did not matter.

United plugged away for a bit longer but it seemed the life had gone out of their challenge as Frei finished from close range.

Typically the visitors rallied, scoring through Jones, but it was not enough.

joew2005
10-12-2011, 10:42 AM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/994354/sir-alex-ferguson:-man-united-plan-to-win-europa-league?cc=4716

Fergie: We plan to win Europa League
December 9, 2011

ManU manager SAF has revealed his team will be going all out 2 win the Europa League aft crashing out of the Champions League.

In the immediate aftermath of United's exit fr Europe's flagship tournament in Basel on Wednesday, Ferguson claimed being dumped in2 UEFA's secondary club competition was a "punishment''.

However, on Friday he moved 2 clarify his comments & insisted tat United will be fully focused on lifting the only European trophy they hv never won.

"The Europa League is a good competition & a strong competition,'' he said. "You only need 2 look @ the teams left in it.

"I made the point the other night tat it's a punishment 4 us 2 be in the Europa League. Wat I mean by tat is for 20 years tis club has only thought abt the Champions League. We've only thought abt winning tat European Cup.

"That's the punishment in terms of the disappointment of not being able 2 challenge 4 it tis year, esp having been in 3 finals in the last 4 years.

"It's not a slight against the Europa League - it's a competition we 1 2 win. We're in it & we'll try 2 win it.''

United hv won the European Cup, or Champions League, on 3 occasions - 1968, 1999 & 2008 - & the Cup Winners' Cup 1s - in 1991 - but hv never lifted the UEFA Cup, which is now the Europa League.

Their last game in the competition came back in September 1995 when they went out on away goals in the 1st round against Rotor Volgograd, despite an 89th min equaliser @ Old Trafford fr goalkeeper Peter Schmeichel.

joew2005
10-12-2011, 05:08 PM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/994131/rio-ferdinand-keeps-faith-manchester-united-will-bounce-back?cc=4716

Ferdinand keeps the faith
December 9, 2011

Rio Ferdinand is convinced ManU's vast experience will drag them thru their Champions League nightmare.

United flew home on Thursday, still coming 2 terms with the shattering experience suffered in Switzerland, when a 2-1 defeat 2 FC Basel turfed them out @ the group stage of European football's most prestigious competition 4 the 1st time since 2005.

Rough estimates put the loss of income alone @ £20 million, although a small percentage of tat could be made up if United were 2 progress 2 the latter stages of the Europa League. Ferdinand, though, insists it is a time 4 cool heads.

"We r definitely good enough 2 bounce back," he said. "It is only a couple of weeks ago ppl were saying we were going 2 be champions & we were going 2 do tis & that. It doesn't change aft 1 night in Europe.

"We hv alot of players here with valuable experience. Tat will come in2 play now. I hv no worries or qualms abt this weekend coming. We will be up 4 it.

"You don't 1 2 experience tis type of feeling often. It leaves a bitter taste in your mouth. The young players in the squad who haven't been here long know wat tat is like now."

And Ferdinand concurred with team-mate Patrice Evra abt the low Champions League elimination has brought, although he denied completely any suggestion United may hv been complacent abt the task they faced in gaining a single point @ St-Jakob Park.

"There was no complacency," he said. "Tat is way off the mark. The manager wouldn't stand 4 complacency @ tis club.

"But it is embarrassing 2 go out @ tis stage & any player with pride in his performance & in his job doesn't 1 2 feel tat. We don't like tis. We will try & rectify it."

joew2005
10-12-2011, 08:05 PM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/994589/sir-alex-ferguson-not-planning-manchester-united-january-signings?cc=4716

Ferguson not planning January signings
December 10, 2011

ManU manager SAF has played down the possibility of making reinforcements 2 his squad in the January transfer window.

United hv been criticised in recent days, aft the club slumped out of the Champions League following a surprise away defeat 2 FC Basel on Wednesday.

Now facing an ignominious run in the Europa League during the 2nd half of the season, & with captain Nemanja Vidic ruledn out 4 the rest of the season, many had expected the Scot 2 open his cheque-book & make additions 2 his options @ Old Trafford when the window opens.

However, Ferguson has played down tat possibility - saying previous January signings including Henrik Larsson, Vidic & Patrice Evra r exceptions rather than the norm.

"It is very difficult 2 buy players in January," Ferguson said. "You don't just 1 2 buy any player simply becos it gives u another 1. You 1 2 buy some1 who can make a difference.

"We hv only had maybe 4 or 5 signings in my time here in January. It is not a consistent route 4 us simply becos of all the disadvantages."

The difficulty of prising players fr clubs mid-season, as well as the complications surrounding which potential signings would be eligible 4 United's Europa League campaign, will also affect Ferguson's willingness 2 dip in2 the market.

"It is not easy 2 get players in January," said Ferguson. "I m not quite sure if u went 4 a player if he could play in the Europa League. There is criteria there in the sense of playing in the Champions League & whether they could play in the Europa League. There r alot of issues there but there is nothing in my mind @ the moment."

mr_missile
12-12-2011, 08:20 AM
McCarthy denies United demise

Mick McCarthy dismissed talk of a Manchester United demise after watching Wolves beaten 4-1 by the Premier League champions at Old Trafford.

Dumped out of the Champions League in midweek and with skipper Nemanja Vidic ruled out for the rest of the season through injury, United are on the ropes.

Not for the first time, their response to such a predicament was to come out swinging.

And with Nani and Wayne Rooney both bagging their first league goals since September, they were able to record a win that closed the gap on Manchester City to two points ahead of the Blues' showdown with Chelsea at Stamford Bridge on Monday night.

"I don't look at Manchester United in a different way," said McCarthy.

"I can't remember when Manchester United, at Old Trafford, was an easy task.

"All the hype and talk about their demise is nonsense.

"They have had a tough couple of results. They have been knocked out of the Champions League.

"But they will get back again because they have got really good players and a whole load of young players, who are developing."

Not that McCarthy, who has endured plenty of criticism himself this season, could fail to manage a wry smile at the thought of Ferguson being under pressure.

"I am not surprised by that at all," he said.

"He is not immune. It is kind of refreshing when the best managers are under pressure and getting stick. It makes me feel a whole lot better.

"I would imagine when you walk into this place, or any of the top clubs, there is instant pressure. You have to live with it.

"He has done it better than any manager and will continue to work at it.

"He has had a tough time. It happens. It is cyclical. You can't always be a success.

"You have to change things and constantly work at it. He has been better than anybody else at changing team after team after team and constantly being the top dog.

"But you still have to have some tough results from time to time."

Ferguson has made a point of stressing he retains total confidence in his squad.

And with Rooney in particular back on the scoresheet again, taking his tally to 11, having scored nine in his first six games, the United boss can talk optimistically about what lies ahead.

"Wayne in particular, does go in spurts," he said.

"He scored nine in the early part of the season. Now we are going up to an important part of the season, if we get the goal ratio again, it puts us in good fettle."

Ferguson was delighted with the response of his players, arguing that for some, the shattering Champions League experience will turn out to be a positive.

"We will take a lot of stick from critics and even from people we thought were perhaps on our side," he said.

"This was the right response. Some of the football was fantastic."

Two seasons ago, McCarthy was fined £25,000 for fielding a weakened team in the corresponding fixture, which Wolves lost 3-0.

He clearly has not forgotten.

"That is what you get when you put your full-strength team out against them," he said, when asked about today's result.

"I was happy with the performance.

"We played 4-4-2 against a team who are better than us, who have better players than us and are a bigger club than us.

"And, unfortunately, we got turned over."

mr_missile
12-12-2011, 08:22 AM
Jones: Roo not all about goals

Phil Jones does not believe Wayne Rooney has to score in order to make a positive contribution to the Manchester United cause.

Rooney bagged his first Premier League goals since September as United romped to a 4-1 victory over Wolves in front of their biggest crowd of the season at Old Trafford.

It was a positive end to an eventful week for the 26-year-old, who managed to get his Euro 2012 suspension reduced to two matches from three, clearing him to face co-hosts Ukraine in the final Group D game in Donetsk on June 19.

However, less than 24 hours before, Rooney missed the Red Devils' best chance as they crashed out of the Champions League to Basle.

It would be easy to make a connection between Rooney's disciplinary problems being dealt with and the freedom of his overall performance on Saturday.

But Jones feels goals should not be the only factor by why Rooney's contribution is judged.

"Wayne was brilliant," he said.

"But he still has an influence on the team even when he is not scoring. The things he does off the ball are terrific as well.

"People sometimes don't take that into consideration. They look at his goal tally and think he is not doing well but he has been terrific for us."

Nevertheless, after scoring nine times in his first six league games of the season, Sir Alex Ferguson is hoping Rooney "goes on a spurt" over the congested Festive programme as United approach the New Year's Day deadline their manager uses as the marker for how they will be challenging for the Premier League title in May.

He will hope for a favour from old rivals Chelsea, who meet leaders Manchester City at Stamford Bridge on Monday.

However, after the disastrous European experience in midweek, Ferguson will be pleasantly surprised at the ease with which his side brought some stability back to the season.

It gave him the opportunity of returning to the defence of his young players, heavily criticised by Roy Keane, amongst others, in his assessment of the defeat in Switzerland.

"I don't understand people doubting these players," said Ferguson.

"(Danny) Welbeck, (Chris) Smalling and (Phil) Jones have played for their country.

"If they are not that good, why are England playing them?

"They are fantastic young players. They will be the foundation of our club for years."

It expanded on a comment Ferguson made in his programme notes about criticism "from people we thought perhaps were on our side".

"Though we may gnash our teeth, there is no use wailing about it."

Instead, Ferguson is trusting his depleted squad to drag United out of their disappointment, which will only truly be rammed home on Friday, when the draws for both the Champions League they are no longer part of, and the Europa League, which they are, will be made.

"It has been hard," said the Portugal winger.

"Normally we always go to the final of the Champions League. We used to pass easily through the group. This time was a bit disappointing.

"No-one expected to go to the Europa League. But this is life. We are still alive.

"We still have the opportunity to play. Now we just have to do our best to win whatever competition we can."

Like Rooney, Nani also scored twice, his first goals since September too.

With so many players out injured, Ferguson needs the winger to maintain his present high standards.

The United boss has not sought any sympathy. But opposite number Mick McCarthy gave a typically blunt assessment of the Scot's plight.

"There is this ridiculous nonsense that goes about," he said.

"I know he is not immune and it is kind of refreshing when the best managers are under pressure and getting stick. It makes me feel a whole lot better.

"But he is the best manager there has been as far as I am concerned.

"He has had a tough time. It happens. You can't always be a success."

mr_missile
14-12-2011, 08:00 AM
Break from football for Fletcher

Manchester United and Scotland midfielder Darren Fletcher is to take "an extended break from football" owing to a chronic bowel condition.

United have revealed that Fletcher, who has been sidelined at various points in recent times with was reported to be a virus, has been suffering with the inflammatory condition known as ulcerative colitis for some time.

The 27-year-old has now been advised to take a complete break from the game.

The club said in a statement: "On behalf of Darren Fletcher, Manchester United wishes to announce that he is taking an extended break from football for health reasons."

Fletcher made only one start for United last term after March 1 and was an unused substitute for the 3-1 Champions League final defeat to Barcelona.

He has made 10 appearances in all competitions for the Red Devils during the current campaign, with the last coming on November 22.

The statement from United continued: "Over the past year, he has had several absence periods which we have attributed to a viral illness in order to respect his right to medical confidentiality.

"Darren has, in fact, been suffering from ulcerative colitis (a chronic inflammatory bowel condition) for some time preceding this.

"Whilst he was able to maintain remission of symptoms for a considerable period, this has proved more difficult recently and Darren's continued desire to play and his loyalty to both his club and country has probably compromised the chances of optimising his own health and fitness.

"He has therefore accepted medical advice to take an extended break from the demands of training and playing in order to afford the best chance possible of achieving full remission once again.

"We request that his privacy is respected and hope that the removal of the additional stress associated with speculation regarding his health will also aid his recovery."

Fletcher, the Scotland captain, has also played for his country in four Euro 2012 qualifiers this season.

Scotland boss Craig Levein said: "I am obviously absolutely devastated for Darren because I know how hard he has worked to get back to playing regularly for his club and country.

"He is one of the most inspirational players I have had the pleasure of working with and on behalf of his Scotland team-mates and my backroom staff I sincerely hope this time off, allied to the support of his family, will enable him to make a full recovery.

"Darren has shown tremendous dedication and fortitude, demonstrated by his ability to overcome this illness and perform at the highest level for Manchester United and Scotland.

"I spoke with Sir Alex Ferguson and Darren this week and the most important thing at this stage is for the player to be given time to rest and recuperate.

"Nobody is more committed to his country's cause than our captain. He is a central part of our plans for the World Cup 2014 qualifiers but at this stage his health is paramount and I would like to reiterate the best wishes of everyone at involved with the national team and the Scottish FA."

mr_missile
14-12-2011, 08:13 AM
the old trafford treatment room seems to be overflowing these days. at last count :

vidic and fletcher (out for the season), anderson, cleverley, chicharito, fabio, rafael, owen.

united's midfield is really short in numbers now as we are left with just giggs, park, carrick, rooney and jones (one or the other when really necessary).

i guess saf thinks that the younger players like pogba and morrison are yet to be ready this season for their premier league breakthroughs.

yet at the same time, saf has insisted that united will not buy reinforcements during the january window for transfers. and now that we are out of the champs league, to come to united this season may have somewhat lost its attraction to some players.

still, i do wish that saf will buy at least a top midfielder (dreaming of modric more than sneidjer) to help united at least retain the bpl crown. :)

yinyang
14-12-2011, 01:07 PM
We can take heart on noisy neighbors MC's slim lead down to 2 pts. With tough games to Gunners and Pool start 2012.

See who's right side of Manchester on 8/1 FA tie and 3 days later vs Pool in Carling cup. When going gets tough, see if big cheque book egomaniacs can handle new year crunch:p

mr_missile
17-12-2011, 08:01 AM
Beware the Pog, barks Ferguson

Sir Alex Ferguson may turn to 18-year-old Paul Pogba, who he describes as a 'big, strong lad', to ease his Manchester United midfield crisis.

Darren Fletcher is unlikely to be seen again this season following confirmation he will take an extended break to recover from a chronic inflammatory bowel condition.

And, as Tom Cleverley and Anderson are also on the long-term injury list, Ferguson is short of options for the pre-Christmas trips to QPR and Fulham.

Yet the United boss still insists he has no plans to enter the January transfer market, and hinted that instead, Pogba could be asked to play a significant role.

"Pogba is a possibility," said Ferguson. "He is a big, strong lad and a good athlete.

"He is improving and developing well. We have seen the progress he has made since coming to the club and physically, he is better than the rest of last year's youth team, apart from Zeki Fryers."

Even in Ferguson's long time as manager, it is unusual to encounter such a list of significant problems in one specific area of the field.

However, with Fletcher, it was an issue that had been rumbling on for some time.

United initially dismissed the Scot's absence in March as "a virus", maintaining that stance even when Fletcher failed to return for six weeks.

Further suspicions were raised when Fletcher missed the summer tour of America and, when he sat out the Champions defeat to Basle last week, when Phil Jones and Ryan Giggs were paired together in central midfield, there was no point maintaining the pretence any further.

"It's easier now it's out in the open," said Ferguson. "That was the big decision he had to make.

"We were trying to address the confidentiality part of it in a different way by talking about a virus but that was down to protecting Darren.

"He got to the position, particularly in Scotland, where there was more delving into why we kept talking about a virus.

"He felt a bit uncomfortable about it so he decided to make it public."

Ferguson confirmed there was no timescale to Fletcher's recovery programme, and that the 27-year-old has spent a couple of days in hospital.

"The medical people have made the right decision," he said.

"They regarded Darren's health as the more important issue and we as a club agree completely with that.

"He's not been in training - he was in hospital for a few days, and he'll rest now."

Ferguson has previously stated he expects Cleverley to have recovered from an ankle injury at some stage over the festive programme.

It is not anticipated the Yorkshireman will be fit to face QPR at Loftus Road on Sunday, yet still there is no intention for Ferguson to enter the transfer market.

"I don't why people keep going on about that," he said.

"It's never been a route we've taken consistently unless a player that we've been interested in appears. But there is no sign of at the moment."

Instead, Ferguson will rely on Jones, Giggs, Michael Carrick and Park Ji-sung, in addition to the precocious talent of Pogba, who joined amid some controversy from Le Havre in 2009.

"We have a few options there, including Pogba, so we are not too bad.

"There isn't much point in bringing an individual in just because it gives you another player."

Ferguson will have Dimitar Berbatov available for United's first trip to Loftus Road since 1996 as the Bulgarian has now recovered from an ankle injury that has sidelined him for three matches.

Should the Red Devils win, they will assume the Premier League's top spot ahead of Manchester City's meeting with Arsenal later in the day.

"It's going to be hard game," said Ferguson. "Hopefully we can get our form back and by the end of the month be challenging for the league.

"That is what I always hope for. You always have a good idea by that time as to what you have to do and who the main challengers are going to be."

mr_missile
17-12-2011, 08:07 AM
We can take heart on noisy neighbors MC's slim lead down to 2 pts. With tough games to Gunners and Pool start 2012.

See who's right side of Manchester on 8/1 FA tie and 3 days later vs Pool in Carling cup. When going gets tough, see if big cheque book egomaniacs can handle new year crunch:p

yups bro. if united are able to overcome qpr in our earlier game tomorrow nite, we will go on top of the league before city plays arsenal. i for sure will be rooting for the gunners and a certain rvp then! :D

joew2005
18-12-2011, 08:27 PM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/998508/roy-keane-hits-back-at-sir-alex-ferguson-in-bitter-row?cc=4716

Keane blasts Ferguson in bitter row
December 18, 2011

Former ManU captain Roy Keane has revealed the extent of his bitter exit fr Old Trafford & hit out @ SAF, claiming tat "without players like myself, maybe he wouldn't hv such a good managerial record".

Keane, who won the Premier League, Champions League & a host of other trophies during his 12 years @ United, was shown the door in November 2005 & has been critical of his former team during his new career as a football pundit.

The Irishman lambasted Ferguson's flops aft they dropped out of the Champions League against Swiss minnows Basel & Fergiuson was quick 2 hit back @ Keane's own management record.

The United boss continued his criticism in Saturday's programme notes, writing: "My immediate job is 2 sift thru the disappointment & the criticism 2 get everything in perspective & I can tell u already tat I still hv faith in our players.

"We will take alot of stick fr critics & even fr ppl we thought were perhaps on our side but we mustn't dwell on tat."

In an interview in the Sunday Times Keane hit back @ Ferguson, claiming tat he felt abandoned by his manager during the later part of his career & suggested tat Ferguson puts his own interests ahead of United's.

"Ppl say he stood by me in difficult times," Keane said. "But [he didn't] when I was 34, not when I was 2wards the end & had a few differences with Carlos Queiroz. All of a sudden then, 'Off you go, Roy, & here's the statement we've done'."

On his coaching career, Keane added: "If u 1 2 question my managerial record ... listen, u could question every pundit's managerial skill in relation 2 his & we're all going 2 come up short. But I would also say tat without players like myself, maybe he wouldn't hv such a good managerial record becos players who go down the punditry road, it's soon forgotten tat we put bodies on the line 4 him."

Keane also cites the legal action taken against John Magnier over the breeding rights 2 the stallion Rock Of Gibraltar as an example tat everything Ferguson does is not necessarily in the interests of United.

"This didn't help the club, the manager going 2 law against its leading shareholder," said Keane. "How could it be of benefit 2 the club? I said, 'You're not going 2 win', & he said, 'I don't care, no-1 does tat 2 me'. And I go, 'Okay, off u go, I'm not going 2 change your mind'."

However, despite the total breakdown of his relationship with Ferguson he is still honoured 2 hv represented United.

"I count my blessings 2 hv played 4 ManU. All of my family r United fans & I don't hv any bitterness 2wards ManU, pls let's make tat clear."

yinyang
18-12-2011, 10:52 PM
Great stuff tonight, knocked socks off QPR. Now, for gunners to hit our noisy neighbors. Was watching this in OZ +2.5hrs time diff. Managed to find sports bar 5 mins from my htl, thank goodness:p

12121212
18-12-2011, 11:48 PM
Great stuff tonight, knocked socks off QPR. Now, for gunners to hit our noisy neighbors. Was watching this in OZ +2.5hrs time diff. Managed to find sports bar 5 mins from my htl, thank goodness:p

Yupz...great match for man utd:D

mr_missile
19-12-2011, 07:58 AM
Fergie: We were wasteful

Sir Alex Ferguson was happy with Manchester United's 2-0 victory over Queens Park Rangers, but admitted they missed a hatful of chances.

Wayne Rooney opened the scoring inside 60 seconds, with Michael Carrock adding a second goal after half-time.

And Fergie said: "I thought it was a good performance but I thought we were wasteful of a lot of the chances we had.

"We should really have had the game won by the 30 minute mark. I think that today's result gets a bit of consistency back.

"It stabilises a good deal and by New Year we're hopefully close to being top of the League."

"Queens Park Rangers in their home games have been a real problem to a lot of teams.

"But we kept them quiet for most of the game and we played some terrific football at times, and I'm pleased with that.

"We're used to situations like that where we miss chances. Quite a few games, we've won 1-0 and said, 'We should have scored more'.

"Nonetheless, you want to get that goal that matters and when Michael Carrick scored a second goal, I think that put it to bed."

mr_missile
19-12-2011, 08:03 AM
Great stuff tonight, knocked socks off QPR. Now, for gunners to hit our noisy neighbors. Was watching this in OZ +2.5hrs time diff. Managed to find sports bar 5 mins from my htl, thank goodness:p

Yupz...great match for man utd:D

a good win against qpr. we know by now that city beat the gunners to go back on top of the league.

but we take heart that united played well in the win although they should really have scored more.

more plus points below :

1. great to see chicharito back (and also berbatov on the bench too).
2. jones and carrick did a magnificent job in midfield.
3. rooney found his scoring boots (or head should i say ;) ) again.
4. valencia finding his fitness and form.

bonkudear
20-12-2011, 10:37 AM
Heard that Anderson is back in training too. He is 6 weeks ahead of the schedule predicted by the team's medical staff. Hope that Cleverley will also be back soon to ease the midfield injury crisis.

Next up, Fulham away.

mr_missile
20-12-2011, 05:12 PM
UNITED TARGET NEW MESSI

SIR ALEX FERGUSON has joined arch-rivals Liverpool in the battle to sign Xherdan Shaqiri – the man dubbed the new Lionel Messi.

Shaqiri starred for Basel as they dumped Manchester United out of the Champions League earlier this month.

Now his reward could be a mega- money switch to Old Trafford as Fergie looks to bolster his midfield in next month’s transfer window.

Starsport understands United have sounded out his agent Ulisse Savini about a possible £10m switch to the Premier League champions.

Shaqiri, 20, has been likened to Messi following a string of impressive displays for Basel and Switzerland.

The creative midfielder, who was born in Kosovo, has a similar build to the Barcelona star and is also left-footed. He imp- ressed Fergie in both group games against United and is tipped to become one of the best players in Europe.

Liverpool have been tracking Shaqiri since Roy Hodgson was boss and Anfield director of football Damien Comolli has watched him several times.

Fergie is confident of landing him and can offer bigger wages, but Shaqiri is keen to help Basel progress in the Champions League knockout stages.

Fergie, who is also keen on Benfica’s Nicolas Gaitan and Ajax’s Christian Eriksen, might have to wait until the end of the season before clinching a deal.

The United boss insists he won’t be doing much busi- ness in the transfer window, but the loss of Darren Fletcher is a huge blow.

He will not panic buy, but knows Shaqiri would be a long-term replacement for Ryan Giggs.

Coach Rene Meulensteen admits United’s interest in Eriksen. He said: “This is a player on our radar, but that is to be expected. If people weren’t looking, no- one would ever have an opinion on these players.

“It is true that a player like Eriksen would fit our transfer policy. He is being linked with us, but to suggest that we are about to make a move is not true.”

Eriksen’s agent Martin Schoots said: “Christian must weigh up every step he takes in his career.

“He gave a lot of thought to joining Ajax. Last summer he could have gone to England, and a German club was very keen, but he passed the opportunity up.

“He has signed a contract at Ajax and a transfer is not an issue at the moment.”

joew2005
20-12-2011, 08:46 PM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/999238/manchester-united-admit-ajax-starlet-christian-eriksen-%22on-radar%22?cc=4716

Ajax starlet Eriksen 'on United's radar'
December 20, 2011

ManU assistant coach Rene Meulensteen has admitted the club r keeping a close eye on Ajax midfielder Christian Eriksen, amid speculation the Premier League champions will bring in reinforcements in January.

United hv seen their numbers depleted over recent weeks by a spate of injuries & r expected 2 dip into the market during the winter transfer window.

An attacking midfielder top of the list & 19-year-old Eriksen, whom United hv long been linked with, fits the bill.

"Tis is a player tat is on our radar," Meulensteen admitted 2 Voetbal International. "But tat is 2 be expected. If ppl weren't looking, no-1 would ever hv an opinion on these players.

"It is true tat a player like Eriksen would fit our transfer policy. He is being strongly linked with us, but 2 suggest tat we r abt 2 make a move is not true."

However, the Denmark international's agent was quick 2 point out tat Eriksen will not be rushed in2 any potential move & attempted 2 play down the speculation tat surrounds his client's future.

"Christian must weigh up every step he takes in his career," said Martin Schoots.

"He gave alot of thought 2 joining Ajax. Last summer he could hv gone 2 England, & a German club was very keen, but he passed the opportunity up.

"He has signed a contract @ Ajax & a transfer is not an issue @ the moment."

mr_missile
21-12-2011, 07:38 AM
FA hands Suarez eight-game ban

The Football Association has banned Liverpool striker Luis Suarez for eight games and fined him £40,000, subject to any possible appeal.

Suarez was sanctioned by an FA Independent Regulatory Commission on Tuesday for racially abusing Patrice Evra.

Evra told French TV he was racially abused by the Uruguayan on 10 occasions during Manchester United's Premier League match at Anfield on October 15.

The FA said in a statement: "An Independent Regulatory Commission has today found a charge of misconduct against Luis Suarez proven, and have issued a suspension for a period of eight matches as well as fining him £40,000, pending appeal."

The commission's ruling stated: "Mr Suarez used insulting words towards Mr Evra during the match contrary to FA Rule E3(1);

"The insulting words used by Mr Suarez included a reference to Mr Evra's colour within the meaning of Rule E3(2);

"Mr Suarez shall be warned as to his future conduct, be suspended for eight matches covering all first team competitive matches and fined the sum of £40,000;

"The [penalty] is suspended pending the outcome of any appeal lodged by Mr Suarez against this decision."

The FA confirmed that Suarez's suspension will not start until the outcome of any appeal.

The statement added: "Mr Suarez has the right to appeal the decision of the Independent Regulatory Commission to an Appeal Board. An appeal must be lodged within 14 days of the date of the written reasons for the decision.

"The penalty is suspended until after the outcome of any appeal, or the time for appealing expires, or should Mr Suarez decide not to appeal. The reason for this is to ensure that the penalty does not take effect before any appeal so that Mr Suarez has an effective right of appeal."

The Uruguay striker had strongly denied the accusation and was fully supported by Liverpool.

Evra made the claims immediately after the match at Anfield two months ago, telling French TV station Canal Plus that Suarez had used a racist insult to him "at least 10 times".

Evra said: "There are cameras. You can see him (Suarez) say a certain word to me at least 10 times."

Both players spoke to FA officials during the investigation and Suarez's defence was based on claims that he was unaware language that is acceptable in Uruguay is viewed as racist in Europe.

Suarez told Uruguayan media last month: "There is no evidence I said anything racist to him. I said nothing of the sort.

"There were two parts of the discussion - one in Spanish, one in English. I did not insult him. It was just a way of expressing myself. I called him something his team-mates at Manchester call him, and even they were surprised by his reaction."

Evra reported his complaint to match referee Andre Marriner, who included it in his report.

Liverpool issued their initial response in a statement, outlining they were "surprised and disappointed" and said they found it "extraordinary" the FA had taken Evra's word.

They did not officially confirm whether or not they would be appealing, but said: "Liverpool Football Club is very surprised and disappointed with the decision of the Football Association Commission to find Luis Suarez guilty of the charges against him. We look forward to the publication of the Commission's Judgment.

"We will study the detailed reasons of the Commission once they become available, but reserve our right to appeal or take any other course of action we feel appropriate with regards to this situation.

"We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no one else on the field of play - including Evra's own Manchester United team-mates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken."

Liverpool also reiterated their stance against racism, and suggested they were keen to see what action the FA would be taking against Evra, claiming he had admitted insulting Suarez himself.

The club also accused the FA of being "determined" to find Suarez guilty, adding: "LFC considers racism in any form to be unacceptable - without compromise.

"It is our strong held belief, having gone over the facts of the case, that Luis Suarez did not commit any racist act.

"It is also our opinion that the accusation by this particular player was not credible - certainly no more credible than his prior unfounded accusations.

"It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'.

"The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist.

"It appears to us that the FA were determined to bring charges against Luis Suarez, even before interviewing him at the beginning of November. Nothing we have heard in the course of the hearing has changed our view that Luis Suarez is innocent of the charges brought against him and we will provide Luis with whatever support he now needs to clear his name.

"We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms.

"Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult."

Suarez said on Tuesday night, via his Twitter account: "Today is a very difficult and painful day for both me and my family. Thanks for all the support, I'll keep working!"

He later added on his official website: "I'm upset by the accusations of racism. I can only say that I have always respected and respect everybody.

"We are all the same. I go to the field with the maximum illusion of a little child who enjoys what he does, not to create conflicts."

Liverpool boss Kenny Dalglish said via his Twitter account: "Very disappointed with today's verdict. This is the time when @luis16suarez needs our full support. Let's not let him walk alone. KD."

Lord Herman Ouseley, chairman of Kick It Out, said: "The FA has shown leadership and intent through what has clearly been a difficult and complex complaint to deal with, and invested time and expertise to ensure this outcome.

"It has demonstrated that it will not stand for discrimination, something organisations such as FIFA and UEFA should take heed of.

"Kick It Out will continue to work with clubs and players, at professional and grass roots level, offering education on what is deemed offensive and unacceptable behaviour."

mr_missile
21-12-2011, 05:30 PM
Extracts from some better known British newspapers on the Suarez verdict for racially abusing Evra :

What The Papers Say On The Suarez Verdict

The general feeling on Fleet Street is that the FA were right to throw the book at Luis Suarez after finding him guilty of racially abusing Patrice Evra.

'The punishment handed down by the FA to Luis Suarez was not an attack on an individual, and it was certainly not an attack on a club. There is no vendetta here. This has not been a witch-hunt or an overdose of political correctness, as many have sought to claim. No, the FA decision to ban Suarez for eight matches was merely the upholding of the principle that any form of racial abuse is no longer acceptable in our game.

'It may be acceptable in Uruguay. It may be acceptable in Spain. But that does not mean that it must be acceptable here. Just because other parts of the world turn a blind eye to casual racism or punish it lightly does not mean that we must meekly fall in step. So once the panel investigating the incident between Suarez and Patrice Evra decided there was evidence Suarez had racially abused Evra, the FA had little choice.

'A three-game ban would have been an insufficient sanction because it would have made it appear the offence was no more serious than a sending-off. If the FA's anti-racism stance and the work of organisations like Kick It Out was to retain any credibility, the punishment needed to be more severe. That is why the FA got it absolutely right with their eight-game ban for Suarez' -

Oliver Holt in The Daily Mirror.


'Negro or negrito, it doesn't really matter now. Sometimes it's not what you say so much as how you say it, and how many times you do so and the effect it is plainly having in the hair-trigger atmosphere of a match between such ferocious rivals as Liverpool and Manchester United. That certainly was the conclusion of the independent regulatory panel of three which last night accepted the allegations of Patrice Evra and banned Luis Suarez for eight matches.

'As it did so it swept aside the sophistry of the brilliant Uruguayan's defence that he had done nothing worse than slip into a cultural divide, that what he said to an enraged opponent two months ago wouldn't have raised the eyebrow of a black compatriot back home in Montevideo.

'It is the kind of argument which can hold up a court for some time - as it did in this minefield of a case which represented such a huge challenge to the nerve and the working morality of the rulers of the game in this country - but had it been accepted the chances of success in similar prosecutions in the future would have slumped to around zero' -

James Lawton in The Independent.


'Rightly or wrongly, there was a feeling before the verdict was announced that if Luis Suárez was found guilty it was an opportunity for the Football Association to send out a powerful message. This was the governing body's chance to impose the sort of ban and fine that would make players up and down the country, as well as the game's key decision-makers, realise how seriously the FA views racism. Now the Uruguayan has been banned for eight matches and fined £40,000, the FA has done just that...

'Those complaining at the length of time the investigations have dragged on were ignoring the complexities of cases that were never going to be resolved in a matter of days or, as Blatter would like, with a handshake at the final whistle. Only this week the Crown Prosecution Service revealed that further evidence had been received in relation to the allegation that Terry racially abused Ferdinand during Chelsea's 1-0 defeat against Queens Park Rangers in October' -

Stuart James in The Guardian.


'What an undignified mess. But then it was always going to be. This dispute had been so tribal from the outset, with two sides deeply entrenched over the previous nine weeks, that the verdict was always going to infuriate at least one of the parties involved. When the news broke last night that Suárez had been banned for eight matches and fined £40,000 after being found guilty of racially abusing Evra, this case escalated into another dimension.

'Where will it end up? To judge from Liverpool's statement on their website, an appeal to the FA is certain. Even a trip to the Court of Arbitration for Sport cannot be ruled out. The club are in the deeply uncomfortable position of defending an employee who has been found guilty of racially abusing someone. But as shocking as that state of affairs might have sounded to their hierarchy before the events of October 15, their sense of conviction about Suárez's innocence has grown since the initial allegation' -

Oliver Kay in The Times.

'Liverpool's anger was unmistakeable. They are clearly convinced that Suárez was pre-judged, that there is some credence to the belief that the FA wants to demonstrate its toughness on racism to show up Sepp Blatter, the Fifa president whose recent comments on the topic offended so many. This will run and run. That is why the commission must release all evidence into the public domain...

'When the dust finally settles, the clubs must consider how to lessen the tension, urging supporters to maintain their rivalry without swimming in vitriol. Some judicious comments from Sir Alex Ferguson and Dalglish would help. A final word: fining millionaire footballers is pointless' -

Henry Winter in The Daily Telegraph.

mr_missile
22-12-2011, 09:07 AM
Fulham 0 United 5

Manchester United cruised to a 5-0 win at Fulham, but Manchester City will be top of the Premier League at Christmas after beating Stoke 3-0.

Manchester United kept up the pressure on Barclays Premier League leaders Manchester City by flattening Fulham 5-0 at Craven Cottage.

Danny Welbeck, Nani and Ryan Giggs were on target in a first half which was dominated by United with Wayne Rooney and Dimitar Berbatov completing the rout in the closing stages.

There was disappointment for United however, with Phil Jones exiting in the 20th minute after the England defender was caught by Clint Dempsey's arm while duelling for the ball and substitute Ashley Young also departing proceedings prematurely.

bonkudear
22-12-2011, 12:38 PM
What The Papers Say On The Suarez Verdict


Thanks for the post. Not one paper has condemned the FA for taking such a hard stand. And if they the British media can support the verdict, why am I hearing local fans condemning them? They know better? Haha. They only know how to call names only I suppose. Just take a look at their thread and you know what I mean.

If what was reported is true, Suarez uttered the word "negro" no less than 10 times to Evra during the course of a United - Liverpool match. If this word was meant as a friendly, non-racist name-calling, then my god, I can't imagine what choice words Suarez, or any of their so-called fans, will use to swear. :)

omnia
23-12-2011, 09:34 AM
Tell us more about Suarez's ban and stifle speculation

Rohit Brijnath
The Straits Times
Publication Date : 22-12-2011



Liverpool's Luiz Suarez has been banned for eight matches, but this triumph against racism is coloured by frustration. Especially if you wear red. One might say this is not quite a clear-cut case in black and white. It is sentence delivered but not yet explained with adequate clarity, it is apparent justice but so far with unsatisfactory detail.

The player sanctioned for the ugly, stomping tackle can be reviewed on video. His act is there before us. The racist slur is trickier, it is not clearly heard always, it is one man's word against the next, it requires the text of a judgment to convince us. It has not come yet and leads both rational man and conspiracy theorist into suggesting hidden agendas.

Already, there is quaint insinuation that this is all linked to Sepp Blatter, the Fifa chief who suggested racism on a field should be settled with a handshake.

The Swiss official's comments were met with a less wider derision than they warranted. Only the English were openly appalled by this timidity about racism.

So if the eight-match ban was just England bravely flexing its anti-discriminatory muscle, then they should be celebrated. Except not all are convinced. One suggestion is that the decision is intended more as a mocking of Blatter, using Suarez as a convenient weapon to make a larger and sterner point. As if to say: see, we are truly intolerant of intolerance.

It is innuendo and it can only be punctured by rapidly revealing the three-man commission's findings. What really happened? We deserve to know.

Till then Liverpool will stay incensed. In a statement, the club stated: "We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone". No one else heard their conversation in the goal-mouth, they say.

Does that presume he never said it? Evra told television he was abused more than 10 times; Suarez apparently used the word "negro" once. But, of course, the number does not matter, it is intent.

Either way, the commission believed the Frenchman. Why? We'd like to know.

Reputation often becomes an issue in an accusation, but neither man qualifies for sainthood here. A Football Association hearing in 2008, regarding Evra's fracas with a groundsman, reportedly found his evidence "exaggerated and unreliable".

Furthermore, his own alleged comment during the Suarez match to the referee - "You're only booking me because I'm black" - is intriguing: either he is an over-sensitive soul or subtly intimidating a referee by suggesting a latent prejudice.

This is a fine weapon for Liverpool, till we turn to Suarez and his barbed-wire halo. The Uruguayan has bitten a player, given the crowd the finger, known to dive and had a bust-up with an Ajax colleague.

Did this matter? We wish to know.

To the dubious history of the players, we must add a confusing geography. Suarez hails from Uruguay, where it has been pointed out that its iconic captain at the 1950 World Cup was Obdulio Jacinto Muinos Varela, nicknamed "El Negro Jefe" or the The Black Chief. Perhaps for Suarez, the word "negro", which he called Evra, is not a slur. Wherein we fall into a bewildering world of language, culture, intent, translation.

But, as pundits say, perhaps Suarez - having travelled to play for Ajax - should know words have a different resonance outside his nation. In 2008, for instance, Indian cricketer Harbhajan Singh was accused of calling Australian Andrew Symonds - partly of West Indian descent - a "monkey", to which the occasional ill-advised blogger suggested "monkey" was not a pejorative in India. Irrespective of whether Singh said the word, as an argument it isn't persuasive.

Evidently, the Suarez panel did not buy the semantic argument, for the FA's statement reads, "the insulting words used by Mr Suarez included a reference to Mr Evra's colour". But it's not enough. It's the detail we want to know.

Liverpool have also used the heritage defence, stating "Luis himself is of a mixed-race family background as his grandfather was black". But can we presume this makes him above suspicion? Indeed, even if he is not a racist - and Evra apparently stated Suarez is not - he may be, like Steve Williams was with Tiger Woods in the case of the "black ****hole", guilty of the racial slur.

Was this part of their deliberations? We need to know.

It is an ugly time. Petitions will be written, appeals filed. The divide between clubs is sharp and loyalty is obscuring logic. Suarez constantly sullies skill with stupidity and his strong ban will have even greater resonance if a wise panel breaks down his sins. Publish the findings soon, fellows. State the logic. Stifle the speculation. Football will be better for it.

mr_missile
23-12-2011, 10:09 AM
thanks for the post bro omnia.

i have nothing against you reds fans. i have many very very good friends who are die-hard pool supporters. but me (and my fellow united pals) have never verbally abused each other or the teams we have supported. as i have said many times before, we are all football fans, just that we support different teams. :)

am also shocked by the extent of the ban to be honest. just waiting for the full report to see what the commission had based on to find Suarez guilty.

cheers! :)

omnia
23-12-2011, 10:42 AM
appreciate the reply bro...

regardless that i am an old time reds fan...if Suarez's true intent viz Evra was based on racism then i hv no problem wif the 8 match ban n fine...racism is unacceptable period...however before i come to any firm conclusions one way r another...i wld like to read the tribunal's judgment...

happy christmas!

thanks for the post bro omnia.

i have nothing against you reds fans. i have many very very good friends who are die-hard pool supporters. but me (and my fellow united pals) have never verbally abused each other or the teams we have supported. as i have said many times before, we are all football fans, just that we support different teams. :)

am also shocked by the extent of the ban to be honest. just waiting for the full report to see what the commission had based on to find Suarez guilty.

cheers! :)

mr_missile
23-12-2011, 11:03 AM
appreciate the reply bro...

regardless that i am an old time reds fan...if Suarez's true intent viz Evra was based on racism then i hv no problem wif the 8 match ban n fine...racism is unacceptable period...however before i come to any firm conclusions one way r another...i wld like to read the tribunal's judgment...

happy christmas!

well said bro. a true reds and sports fan. you have my respect bro. :)

am a long time united fan too. days when you reds were the dominant force in the old english 1st division. back then, united were struggling. yet, me and my united pals just got behind them and our support never waivered. i guess it's very much like what you true reds fans are feeling now. no matter how the team is doing, you are right behind them. :)

have a very merry xmas too.

mr_missile
23-12-2011, 05:09 PM
United handed Jones boost

PHIL JONES could be back in action on Boxing Day.

The Manchester United defender went to hospital for X-rays after going off at Fulham on Wednesday with a suspected fractured cheekbone following a clash with Clint Dempsey. That prompted fears he could miss six weeks.

But the injury turned out to be just soft tissue damage.

Now Jones may be OK to face Wigan on Monday, even if it means wearing a protective mask.

That will come as a major boost for boss Alex Ferguson as the Old Trafford treatment table has groaned with crocks for most of the season.

Liebe
27-12-2011, 01:22 AM
5-0 Wigan! TOTAL TRASH! Gloryx2 ManUtd!

mr_missile
27-12-2011, 07:53 AM
Brilliant Berba

Manchester United went level at the top of the Premier League with a 5-0 win over Wigan on Boxing Day, as West Brom held Manchester City 0-0.

Dimitar Berbatov was the United hero as the Bulgarian smashed a hat-trick in the rout over the 10-man Latics.

Park Ji-sung gave the Red Devils an early lead when he converted after good work from full-back Patrice Evra.

The struggling visitors saw striker Conor Sammon shown a straight red card by referee Phil Dowd for raising his arm as he backed into Michael Carrick just before the break.

United soon made their advantage count as Berbatov (40) doubled the lead, with the Bulgarian netting again just before the hour.

Winger Antonio Valencia knocked in a fourth with 15 minutes left, before Berbatov completed his hat-trick from the penalty spot (77) after Antolin Alcaraz had fouled Park.

mr_missile
27-12-2011, 08:18 AM
Evans facing a fortnight out

Sir Alex Ferguson fears Jonny Evans could be out for a fortnight after he departed Manchester United's win over Wigan with a calf injury.

Evans was United's only fit central defender heading into the game and failed to reappear for the second half as Dimitar Berbatov bagged a hat-trick.

And Ferguson confirmed the Northern Ireland defender will not make the New Year's Eve encounter with Blackburn.

"Jonny came off injured. He has a calf injury and will be out for two weeks," Ferguson told BBC Radio Five Live. "We have had a nightmare the last few days. Phil Jones and Chris Smalling have both been ill. Rio Ferdinand called off yesterday with a back injury and Jonny Evans has come off at half-time.

"It does put you under pressure."

Ferguson is hoping Jones and Smalling will have recovered from their problems before the Blackburn game, although with a trip to Newcastle to follow and then the blockbuster FA Cup third round tie with Manchester City at the Etihad Stadium on January 8, it is the wrong time to be affected by an area of the pitch from which skipper Nemanja Vidic will be missing for the rest of the season.

It is the one cloud on a very healthy festive period for United so far.

The Red Devils' second successive five-goal win allowed them to move level on points with neighbours Manchester City, and slice the Blues' goal difference advantage in half.

However, the game turned on Connor Sammon's red card when United were just a goal ahead towards the end of the first half.

Sammon stuck out his arm to try and shield possession, caught Michael Carrick in the face and Phil Dowd promptly sent him off.

"The red card is a shocking decision," said Wigan boss Roberto Martinez.

"There was a little bit of a fight, as there was every time the two players went for the ball. None of them should have been a red card. None of them were malicious. There was no intent.

"If you want to show a red card using those standards, do it, then you will end up with six men each.

"Anyone who has been on a football pitch knows that incident was a normal action.

"I was surprised when he gave the free-kick. To see the red card, I was gobsmacked."

Even Ferguson admitted it was "harsh".

However, his side took full advantage.

Park Ji-sung had already put the hosts in front and within two minutes of Sammon's exit, Berbatov added another, by using tactics Martinez felt were similar to that his own side were punished for.

United cut loose after the interval, with Berbatov adding another followed by an effort from former Wigan man Antonio Valencia.

Making only his second Premier League start of the season, Berbatov wrapped things up with a penalty after Wayne Rooney had stood aside following Antolin Alcaraz's foul on Park, which seemed to take place outside the box.

"It was the right game for Dimitar," said Ferguson. "I needed his height in terms of set-piece play against us and he weighed in with a hat-trick.

"We are really pleased for him. It helps his confidence. He has not had the best start to the season in terms of selection because of the options I have, with (Danny) Welbeck, Rooney and (Javier) Hernandez."

Ferguson will receive the perfect 70th birthday present of a place on top of the Premier League if his side beat Blackburn at Old Trafford on New Year's Eve, 24 hours before Manchester City visit Sunderland.

However, Martinez feels Roberto Mancini's men face a far more considerable test of their mettle over the next few months.

"What Manchester United have is that mentality," said the Wigan chief.

"They adapt to adversity. You can see everyone taking responsibility and using that to get a result.

"That is the biggest strength they have had for 25 years.

"That is why any team that wants to win the league, beyond any sort of money, or any sort of players you want to bring in, need to beat Manchester United mentally. That is the biggest battle."

lacoruna69
27-12-2011, 10:40 AM
Brilliant Berba

Manchester United went level at the top of the Premier League with a 5-0 win over Wigan on Boxing Day, as West Brom held Manchester City 0-0.

Dimitar Berbatov was the United hero as the Bulgarian smashed a hat-trick in the rout over the 10-man Latics.



Just when everyone writes him off....another hat-trick.
The problem is he is not consistent. The next match he could be a wandering soul again.
But Old Fergie will be happy with 3 pts n double joy since Man C, Chelski, Pool fails to win.
Will the Gunners falter tonight against Wolves.....highly possible.
Spurs is away to Canaries......draw??

mr_missile
28-12-2011, 08:25 AM
Just when everyone writes him off....another hat-trick.
The problem is he is not consistent. The next match he could be a wandering soul again.
But Old Fergie will be happy with 3 pts n double joy since Man C, Chelski, Pool fails to win.
Will the Gunners falter tonight against Wolves.....highly possible.
Spurs is away to Canaries......draw??

berba only played agst wigan as saf rested rooney. the rotation paid off with the moody bulgarian bagging a hat-trick. seems like he is continuing from last season the knack of scoring hat-tricks agst the "smaller" clubs. :D

i think saf will bring rooney back into the team to play blackburn on new year's eve. a win will put united on top of the premiership for at least 24 hrs with city playing a day later.

a very good boxing day for united with city, ars, chelski all dropping points.

spurs won their game agst norwich and they are now 3rd in the table, 7 pts behind united and city, but with a game in hand.

they could be a real threat.

mr_missile
28-12-2011, 08:30 AM
Fit-again Ferdinand raring to go

Rio Ferdinand hopes to be fit for Manchester United's clash with Blackburn on Saturday and says he has not felt this good for two years.

The 33-year-old England defender came in for criticism for his performances earlier in the season, but he returned to top form prior to Christmas and is now raring to go again after a niggling foot injury.

Ferdinand - who has featured 17 times in all competitions for United this campaign - was forced to sit out the recent 5-0 wins over Fulham and Wigan, but should be ready to make his return against Rovers at Old Trafford.

"I haven't felt this good for 18 months to two years," said the United centre-half in The Sun. "Playing regular games breeds confidence in your own body and your performances and, as I said, I feel great.

"A lot has been said about individuals in our squad, which is something you come to expect at Manchester United, and I think the criticism has been harsh in some cases.

"I've always said that when I'm playing consistently you will see the best of me."

Ferdinand, who signed for United from Leeds in 2002, added: "The problems I've had the last couple of seasons with injuries have meant I've been getting through games and maybe not able to train, then missing a few games and coming back in.

"That makes it difficult to get a level of consistency, but this season I've played consistently and you can see the rewards of that."

mr_missile
30-12-2011, 07:58 AM
Vidic set for up to 12 months on the sidelines

Agent dismisses Vidic doubts.

Nemanj Vidic's agent has dismissed speculation that the Manchester United defender's latest knee injury could threaten his career.

The 30-year-old is expected to be sidelined for up to 12 months after he ruptured three ligaments in his right knee playing against Basel.

Vidic is to undergo surgery later this week, but Silvana Martina has been quick to deny any fears over his long-term future.

"The first forecasts say it can last for a year, but it is meaningless to talk about the end of his career," he is quoted by the Daily Mail.

"It's a serious injury but club doctors assure us that the recovery will run smoothly and he will be back on the field.

"It will take time to get back into the old rhythm, but there is no doubt that Vidic will be his old self again.

"Nemanja is feeling good. He will be back next year stronger and better."

mr_missile
03-01-2012, 08:31 AM
Red Devils stick to Rooney story

Manchester United have insisted Wayne Rooney missed Saturday's defeat by Blackburn through injury rather than for disciplinary reasons.

Rooney was not even selected as a substitute for the shock 3-2 defeat at Old Trafford, despite Sir Alex Ferguson being forced to name five untested youngsters on the bench.

Instead, the 26-year-old watched the match from an executive box, along with Darron Gibson, who has been mentioned along with Rooney, and currently injured defender Jonny Evans, in relation to a night out that took place on Boxing Day, after the 5-0 win over Wigan.

It has been reported by the Mail on Sunday that Sir Alex Ferguson got wind of the night out, ordered the players to do extra training on Wednesday, which was supposed to be their day off, then told them they would not be involved against Rovers on Saturday.

Rooney and Gibson are reported to have trained in the morning before heading to Old Trafford to see their team-mates fail to assume top spot in the Premier League, as had been anticipated.

The implications of what has been reported could be major for United, and in particular Rooney's relationship with Ferguson.

However, whilst Red Devils officials were aware of the story circulating, there was no official response.

Instead, the club's website continued to report the statement Ferguson made about Rooney's surprise absence to ESPN prior to kick-off.

"Wayne hasn't trained well this week, he's missed a few days and we're hoping that he trains today, tomorrow and, by Wednesday, he should be okay. It's little strains here and there."

Those words suggest the initial fall-out would be limited to a single game, with Rooney - and possibly Gibson, who made his first start of the season against Wigan as United faced a chronic injury list - set to be included at Newcastle in midweek, and the FA Cup tie at Manchester City next weekend.

However, it has not been forgotten Rooney requested a transfer last season amid fears about United's long-term future, only to be eventually talked round and then end the season as a Premier League winner and a goalscorer in the Champions League final.

mr_missile
03-01-2012, 08:34 AM
Suarez evidence was 'unreliable'

Liverpool's Luis Suarez gave "unreliable" and "inconsistent" evidence to the commission investigating claims he racially abused Patrice Evra.

The Football Association released the independent regulatory commission's full written reasons on its website on Saturday evening.

The 115-page document goes into detail of the case and the conversation the two players had during the match at Anfield on October 15.

On December 20, following a lengthy investigation by an Independent Regulatory Commission, the FA announced that Suarez would be banned for eight matches and fined £40,000 for racially abusing Evra.

The ban was suspended pending an appeal by the Merseyside club.

The report stated in its summary: "Mr Evra was a credible witness. He gave his evidence in a calm, composed and clear way. It was, for the most part, consistent, although both he and Mr Suarez were understandably unable to remember every detail of the exchanges between them.

"Mr Suarez's evidence was unreliable in relation to matters of critical importance. It was, in part, inconsistent with the contemporaneous evidence, especially the video footage. For example, Mr Suarez said that he pinched Mr Evra's skin in an attempt to defuse the situation. He also said that his use of the word 'negro' to address Mr Evra was conciliatory and friendly. We rejected that evidence.

"To describe his own behaviour in that way was unsustainable and simply incredible given that the players were engaged in an acrimonious argument. That this was put forward by Mr Suarez was surprising and seriously undermined the reliability of his evidence on other matters.

"There were also inconsistencies between his accounts given at different times as to what happened."

The incident was triggered in the 58th minute of the match when Suarez fouled Evra. Five minutes later the Manchester United defender was marking Suarez at a Liverpool corner, the first time the two players had come together since the foul.

The two players were then involved in a row, and they were spoken to by the referee Andre Marriner.

Evra made a complaint to the referee at the time and after the game, which triggered an FA investigation.

On November 16 Suarez was charged with using abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour towards Evra, including a reference to Evra's ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race.

Between December 14 and December 20 the commission heard evidence about the incident from the match officials and staff from the two clubs including Ryan Giggs, Sir Alex Ferguson and Kenny Dalglish.

The FA's case, according to the report, was that Evra asked Suarez why he had kicked him, to which the forward replied: "Because you are black."

When Evra challenged him to repeat the answer and said he would "punch him", Suarez said: "I don't speak to blacks."

According to the report, Evra then told Suarez he was going to hit him, to which the Uruguay international replied in Spanish: "Dale, negro, negro, negro." That translates to "okay, blackie, blackie, blackie".

Suarez denied the charge. The report stated that Suarez said he "used the word 'negro' in a way with which he was familiar from his upbringing in Uruguay".

The report said: "In this sense, Mr Suarez claimed, it is used as a noun and as a friendly form of address to people seen as black or brown-skinned (or even just black-haired)."

Suarez maintained that when he said "Por que, negro?" to Evra, it was intended in a conciliatory and friendly way. Suarez said this was the only time that he used the word "negro" in his exchanges with Mr Evra during the match.

As part of its investigation, the FA instructed two experts to prepare a written report on the linguistic and cultural interpretations of the words "negro'' and "negros" in Rioplatense Spanish.

Evra also said in his evidence to the commission that Suarez went to touch him and was gesturing at his skin. The report said it looked like Suarez pinched Evra, which the Liverpool player admitted to in his original witness statement to "diffuse the situation".

The language experts concluded that, after analysing Evra's account of the incident, Suarez's use of the words "negro" and "negros" would be understood as offensive in racial terms in Uruguay and Spanish-speaking America. The physical gesture of touching Mr Evra's arm would also, in the context of the phrases used, be interpreted as racist, said the report.

However when the experts looked at Suarez's version of events, they concluded that the terms he used would not be interpreted as racist in Uruguay and Spanish-speaking America.

The commission said in the report that in order to come to a conclusion, it was important to look closely at the credibility and reliability of the witnesses.

Evra, said the commission, was "an impressive witness'' who "demonstrated a measure of balance in his evidence''.

The commission admitted that Suarez was undergoing a stressful time, but said he was "not as impressive a witness as Mr Evra".

In evidence to the commission, Suarez eventually admitted that the pinching of Evra was not an attempt to diffuse the situation.

"This was one example of where Mr Suarez's witness statement was demonstrated to be inconsistent with the facts as shown in the video footage. No satisfactory explanation was given for this inconsistency," said the report.

Another area focussed on in the findings was Suarez's claim that the term he used was "meant in a conciliatory and friendly way".

The commission's members did not agree and stated: "The suggestion that he behaved towards Mr Evra at this time in a conciliatory and friendly way, or intended to do so in using the word "negro", is, in our judgment, simply not credible.''

The commission found that because the conversation took place during "heated exchanges'' which were "confrontational and argumentative" then the interpretation of Suarez's comments to Evra were offensive.

Describing the reason for the severity of the sentence, the commission said: "If professional footballers use racially insulting language on a football pitch, this is likely to have a corrosive effect on young football fans, some of whom are the professional footballers of the future. It also has a potentially damaging effect on the wider football community and society generally. Every professional footballer should be able to play competitive football in the knowledge that references to the colour of his skin will not be tolerated. The same goes for all levels of football.

"Those who are victims of misconduct of this nature should know that, if they complain and their complaint is upheld, the FA will impose an appropriate penalty which reflects the gravity of this type of misconduct."

The commission concluded: "The charge against Mr Suarez was that he used insulting words which included a reference to Mr Evra's colour. We have found that charge proved on the evidence and arguments put before us. The FA made clear that it did not contend that Mr Suarez acted as he did because he is a racist. Mr Evra said in his evidence that he did not think Mr Suarez is a racist.

"Mr Suarez said in evidence that he will not use the word "negro" on a football pitch in England in the future, and we believe that is his genuine and firm intention."

In a statement Liverpool said: "The club can confirm that they received the written reasons from the Regulatory Commission at short notice last night on the evening of the game against Newcastle United.

"The player, the club and our legal advisors will now take the necessary amount of time to read, digest and properly consider the contents of the 115 page judgment and will make no further comment at present."

Liverpool have previously suggested they will appeal and have remained steadfastly behind their player, his team-mates controversially wearing T-shirts with Suarez's face on them prior to the draw at Wigan 11 days ago.

Liverpool have been given until January 13 to respond, meaning Suarez will be free to play in their next three games, including their Carling Cup semi-final, first leg trip to Manchester City on January 11.

mr_missile
03-01-2012, 02:06 PM
my thoughts on the suarez case :

the charge against suarez is "racial abuse" against an opponent. he was not charged for being "racist".

in the findings, it was reported that the word "negro" was uttered by Suarez at least 7 times. and this was not denied by the Suarez. to all who think that the word "negro" has no racial connotations to it, i think they are just lying to themselves.

suarez is thus guilty of racially abusing evra. yes, it's true that evra was also fucking suarez on the pitch. but not on "racial" terms. just like you are fucked "knn" by someone, is it acceptable to you that your mother is abused? i think you'd rather that person utter "fuck you" straight in the face than a "knn".

mr_missile
05-01-2012, 08:14 AM
Magpies blow United off course

Demba Ba and Yohan Cabaye scored spectacular goals to help Newcastle beat Manchester United 3-0 in their Premier League game at St James' Park.

Ba signed off in style as United's hopes of retaining their Premier League title were dealt a fresh blow as they suffered back-to-back league defeats for the first time this season.

Free signing Ba plundered his 15th goal of the campaign in what seems certain to be his final appearance for the Magpies before heading off on African Nations Cup duty with Senegal.

Frenchman Cabaye sealed a first victory over Sir Alex Ferguson's men in more than 10 years with a stunning 47th-minute free-kick with Phil Jones' late own goal simply cementing their seventh place in the table.

Even Wayne Rooney's return from his exile could not spark United into life as Newcastle added to the pain inflicted on his side by lowly Blackburn at the weekend in front of a delighted crowd of 52,299.

Keeper Anders Lindegaard, who has repeatedly warned he had not joined United simply to "pick his nose", was handed a start in place of David de Gea, unlike Magpies midfielder Hatem Ben Arfa, who was named only among the substitutes despite declaring roughly the same sentiment in the run-up to the game.

Pardew sent out his side having seen them win just one of their last eight league games and knowing the challenge of improving on that run could hardly be much more difficult against a wounded United.

However, his players set about their task with a real relish and while they were forced to defend in determined fashion throughout, they did so more than competently with skipper Fabricio Coloccini and Mike Williamson in particularly miserly form.

In addition, they produced enough of an attacking threat not only to keep the champions on their toes, but to take a lead they rarely looked like relinquishing.

Indeed, Pardew's men, having survived an early scare when Coloccini just managed to cut out Ryan Giggs' attempted through-ball to Dimitar Berbatov in the opening minute, took the game to the visitors in the early stages.

Ba was uncharacteristically wasteful when he failed to make a meaningful connection with Danny Simpson's teasing fourth-minute cross, and Cabaye tested Lindegaard's mettle with a shot from distance two minutes later.

The Dane also had to deal with Cheick Tiote's skidding long-range drive, although as United worked their way into the game, it was they who started to threaten.

Tim Krul had to make a smart reaction save from Nani's 12th-minute snapshot, and the keeper managed to claim the rebound before the predatory Rooney was able to pounce.

Berbatov clipped the outside of the post with a deflected header three minutes later, but Newcastle were not content to sit back and defend.

They had been awarded and converted a contentious penalty in the 1-1 draw at Old Trafford in November, and they were appealing for another with 25 minutes gone, this time in vain, after Ba went down in a tangle of legs with Rio Ferdinand, the man whose challenge on Ben Arfa had been ruled illegal on home turf.

But the former West Ham frontman got his chance 12 minutes before the break, and as so often this season, took it in spectacular fashion.

Shola Ameobi climbed high above Phil Jones to flick on Krul's long free-kick and Ba swivelled instantly to smash a right-foot volley high past the stranded Lindegaard.

Ryan Taylor curled a 44th-minute free-kick just over after Tiote had left Rooney for dead with a neat trick and Ba prompted Giggs to foul him 30 yards out.

Lindegaard also had to deal with a nastily dipping Ba effort from distance in injury-time with the Magpies sensing an opportunity.

Jones' first season at Old Trafford has been largely exemplary, but the youngster's difficult evening on Tyneside took a further turn for the worse within seconds of the restart.

He barged Ba to the ground 30 yards out as the striker threatened to run away from him, and Cabaye curled the resulting free-kick in off the underside of the crossbar with Lindegaard once again helpless.

Central defender Williamson headed a 55th-minute Ryan Taylor corner just over with the Magpies pinning the visitors back to thwart their efforts to launch a recovery.

United would have been back in it within four minutes had it not been for old boy Danny Simpson, who somehow managed to block Rooney's point-blank volley from a Nani cross.

The visitors were enjoying their best spell of the game as Newcastle's defending became increasingly desperate.

But with no sign of a breakthrough, Rooney made way for midfielder Anderson with 15 minutes remaining, although United's efforts became increasingly toothless with the home side simply needing to maintain concentration.

That they did, and Jones' miserable evening was complete in the final minute of normal time when he headed Krul's deep free-kick into his own net.

asiancigar
05-01-2012, 08:55 AM
I think our boys are still trying to clear off their X'mas pudding and NY champaign.....

We looked like some 2nd Division team who were without ideas and conviction.....

Take nothing away from Newcastle.... they out played us and seem to want winning more.

6 points lost and SAF is still not buying but instead extending contracts for Giggs and Ferdinand.

Cheerz
AC

mr_missile
07-01-2012, 04:59 PM
Man City v Man Utd preview

Team news for Sunday's FA Cup third-round clash between Manchester City and Manchester United at the Etihad Stadium.

Manchester City are set to be without Mario Balotelli, Gareth Barry and the Toure brothers for Sunday's FA Cup third-round clash against Manchester United.

Striker Balotelli (ankle) and midfielder Barry (suspension) are definitely forced out while defender Kolo and midfielder Yaya Toure have to report for African Nations Cup duty with Ivory Coast.

Manager Roberto Mancini hopes striker Edin Dzeko (knee) and forward Samir Nasri (illness) will be fit to bolster a stretched squad but former United midfielder Owen Hargreaves is not expected to come into contention.

Manchester United will be selecting from the same squad for the game.

Chris Smalling (tonsillitis) is still out, which is likely to mean Phil Jones partnering Rio Ferdinand in defence.

Anders Lindegaard is likely to continue in goal, although Dimitar Berbatov's place is at risk as United look to avoid suffering a third consecutive competitive defeat against their local rivals.

Man City (from): Hart, Richards, Zabaleta, Lescott, Kompany, Savic, Kolarov, Clichy, Johnson, Milner, De Jong, Nasri, Silva, Aguero, Dzeko, Onuoha, Pantilimon.

Man United (from): De Gea, Lindegaard, Amos, Rafael, Ferdinand, Evra, Jones, Fryers, Cole, Carrick, Valencia, Park, Gibson, Anderson, Nani, Giggs, Rooney, Welbeck, Berbatov, Hernandez, Diouf, Keane.

mr_missile
09-01-2012, 09:40 AM
Sir: We should have battered them

Sir Alex Ferguson believes Wayne Rooney is saddled with the curse of Paul Gascoigne and that Manchester United nearly threw away their win over Manchester City

At the end of a tumultuous weekend, which began with reports of a split with his manager so great United were contemplating selling him during the present transfer window, Rooney was the two-goal hero in United's 3-2 FA Cup triumph over 10-man Manchester City at the Etihad Stadium.

After the final whistle, Rooney reiterated his desire to remain with United "for a long time".

However, Ferguson admitted his star man will have to deal with more negative headlines given his status in the game.

"Wayne Rooney is a headline-maker, good or bad," said Ferguson.

"It is the situation that existed many years ago with Paul Gascoigne.

"We have seen the good stuff today but any flaws will be absolutely annihilated by the press. That is what they are like. That is what we are dealing with.

"Today was a magnificent performance."

Yet it is a fact that in October 2010, Rooney requested a transfer amid concerns about United's ambition.

And also, the striker was disciplined over his performance in training immediately after a Boxing Day night out.

"There is no problem with the boy's temperament at all," Ferguson said.

"It is just off-the-field he is going to be spotlighted all the time."

Despite the result, which condemned City to their first home defeat in over 12 months, Ferguson was not happy.

Having watched his side charge into a 3-0 lead, against opponents reduced to 10 men following the dismissal of skipper Vincent Kompany in the early stages of the contest, Ferguson could not believe what he was seeing as City pulled two goals back and then had a handball claim against Phil Jones turned down by referee Chris Foy.

"It was ridiculous," said Ferguson. "We got careless and made City better than they were.

"They went defensive in the second half and waited for us to make mistakes - and we made them.

"Fortunately we scrambled away with a victory. From a position where we should have battered them."

Indeed, his anger at Kompany's red card apart, Blues boss Roberto Mancini was the happier man at the end, believing the outcome should provide confidence from which his side can go on to win the Premier League title.

"This evening is important for the league," he said.

"Now I think we can win the league because of the character we showed.

"United is a top squad in England. At Old Trafford, with 10 men for 40 minutes, they lost 6-1. Today we played for 80 minutes with 10 players, scored two goals and didn't concede any chances.

"It was a fantastic performance.

"If we have the same attitude and same strength every game, we will win the league."

Although he was partly responsible for Sergio Aguero's goal for City, which really made United sweat after Aleksandar Kolarov had reduced the deficit straight after the restart, Paul Scholes helped to bring a measure of composure to United's game near the end.

The Red Devils confirmed their veteran midfielder had come out of retirement just before the teams were announced, with Ferguson confirming the 37-year-old had approached him about resuming his career a few weeks ago.

"The last few weeks, Paul has been training very hard with the reserves and doing a lot of work in the gym," said Ferguson.

"He came to see me and said 'I regret retiring'.

"There are no negatives for me. The players have been delighted. I am delighted. The fans are delighted.

"The last few weeks he has been stepping up his training and been taking part in our training sessions during the week.

"It is a terrific addition to our squad at a very important part of our season."

mr_missile
09-01-2012, 09:47 AM
good win to keep the noisy neighbours quiet for a while and to stop the 2 game losing streak. city lost at home for the first time in 31 games!

great to see rooney scoring and kissing the united badge on his jersey and scholes coming out of retirement to help united.

next round vs pool at anfield. let's see if their fans' reaction there when evra comes out. one fan has already been hauled out by the police for racially abusing an oldham player. this guy's gonna be charged. wonder when is the police going to charge suarez too. ;)

mr_missile
13-01-2012, 08:25 AM
Utd fine rattled 'tense' Rooney

Wayne Rooney has admitted he complained about his recent fine and feels the disciplinary issue affected his performance for Manchester United.

The Red Devils striker was punished due to a lacklustre showing in training following a night out after the club's Boxing Day victory over Wigan.

Rooney missed United's next match against Blackburn on New Year's Eve and produced a subdued display on his return in last week's 3-0 defeat at Newcastle.

However, the England international returned to his best with a brace in the FA Cup win at local rivals Manchester City after acknowledging he was 'tense' after being punished by manager Sir Alex Ferguson.

When asked if he had grumbled about the fine, Rooney told La Repubblica: "Yes, but for reasons that I can't say. I accepted it. But I was tense when I got back on the pitch and I think it showed."

Rooney added: "You can't always agree. Football is made up of all kinds of conflict.

"In a dressing room, between players, between us and the manager, between us and loads of people who don't seem to matter. It's constant and harsh sometimes."

mr_missile
16-01-2012, 07:53 AM
Fergie hails scoring Scholes

Alex Ferguson hailed Paul Scholes after the veteran scored on his return to the Manchester United starting line-up against Bolton.

Scholes made a shock comeback from retirement as a substitute in the FA Cup victory over Manchester City last Sunday and followed it up with the opener against the Trotters at Old Trafford.

The strike - the 151st United goal of his career - came when he turned home a Wayne Rooney cross-shot on the stroke of half time.

United then pushed on and won the game with second half goals from Danny Welbeck and Michael Carrick to move level on points with City at the top of the table, having played a game more.

Ferguson told Sky Sports News: "It's a good scoreline. I think we could have scored more in the first half in particular, we had a lot of great chances, some terrific football we played at times.

"But we had to wait until right on the half time to score the goal and it put us in a great position."

He agreed it was a surprise that Scholes had popped up at the far post for his opener "because at his age and the fact that he has just come back."

He added: "We were looking for him to control centre midfield which he did.

"But he's got the instinct, he's always had the instinct for a goal and he's probably said 'well half time, I'll gamble' and he's opened the scoring for us and that could have been an important goal (in the course of the season)."

Title rivals Tottenham drew against Wolves and Ferguson is relishing the challenge ahead as United go for a 20th title.

He added: "We are in there that's all we can say. We will keep going and you never know where it takes us."

mr_missile
18-01-2012, 04:39 PM
Ferdy: Scholes is still gold

RIO FERDINAND says Paul Scholes is still up with the world's greats even after six months in retirement.
Manchester United hero Scholes, 37, returned to action over a week ago.

And Ferdinand believes only Scholes and some of the top Barcelona stars could be away from the game for so long and return without any trouble He said: "Only a handful of players could do it.

"Iniesta, Xavi, Messi — they're the type of players who look as though they could play football at the drop of a hat at the top level. It's natural to them."

SunSport revealed on January 7 Scholes wanted to come out of retirement.

But the player kept his team-mates in the dark until the FA Cup third round against Manchester City 24 hours later.

Ferdinand said: "He met up with the squad the day before the City game and I asked if he was in the squad. He said he was coming to watch as part of the staff. That's typical Scholesy."

Meanwhile, Scholes could play for GB in the Olympics despite not being on the 191-player 'long-list'.

The out-of-retirement Manchester United ace, 37, would have to contact the FA to be considered for one of three over-age spots or be approached by coach Stuart Pearce.

Fellow 'oldies' David Beckham and Ryan Giggs want to be considered and, as Pearce will not pick any player who has been at Euro 2012, all three have a good chance of featuring.

mr_missile
20-01-2012, 07:55 AM
The Daily Mail claims Danny Welbeck has 'angered' Manchester United by asking for a deal worth around £60,000 a week.

Apparently Welbeck currently earns £15,000 a week, and has been offered a contract that will pay him around £45-50,000, but that isn't enough for his advisors, it says here.

The Mail claims: 'United want to put Welbeck on a similar wage package to the club's other young talents. Defenders Phil Jones and Chris Smalling both earn £50,000 per week, while Tom Cleverley is on £40,000 per week. United feel Welbeck's £60,000-a-week demands are unrealistic as he has not proved himself on a consistent basis yet.'

mr_missile
21-01-2012, 08:17 AM
SAF: Arsenal game will be tight

Sir Alex Ferguson claims there's "no chance" Manchester United will repeat their 8-2 hammering of Arsenal on Sunday.

United emerged triumphant on that stunning afternoon in August, romping to an 8-2 win that condemned Arsenal to their biggest defeat in 114 years.

It was part of a blistering start to the campaign that also saw the Premier League champions score three times against both Tottenham and Chelsea and put five past Bolton at the Reebok Stadium.

Performances have become rather more restrained since as injuries and setbacks made their mark, which is why Ferguson is anticipating a return to the tense battles of the past when United square up to Arsene Wenger's side this weekend.

"It won't be as open as the last time. There is no chance of that," said Ferguson.

"There won't be a lot between the two teams. They have only lost six goals at home this season so we are well aware it is going to be a hard game.

"I just hope we can get the result we want and need."

United may well need an away win because by kick-off they will be six points adrift of Manchester City if the Blues emerge triumphant from their top-of-the-table encounter with Tottenham at the Etihad Stadium.

It is the reverse of fixtures that ended with a combined Manchester victory of 13-3 over north London, although Ferguson has not entertained the idea that Arsenal will be motivated by thoughts of getting even.

"I have never used revenge as part of my motivation," he said.

"It rankles but you have to forget it. I am sure Arsene did that. That is what I would have done anyway."

Instead, Wenger can point to a place on the fringes of the top four as evidence that his side has improved.

Arsenal also have the Champions League knockout phase to look forward to, unlike United, who find themselves in the Europa League.

And, just like Sunday's opponents, they have an old favourite back in their squad, with Ferguson believing Thierry Henry's short stint for his old club is in the same 'no-brainer' category as that which saw Paul Scholes perform a retirement U-turn at Old Trafford.

"There was talk about Thierry Henry coming back last January and it didn't happen," he said.

"To me there are no negatives, similar to what I said about Paul Scholes.

"When I saw them erecting the statue I thought it was a nice lead-in to bringing him back for a short spell.

"You saw how the fans reacted when he scored the goal against Leeds. They were fantastic.

"He is still a great player and most of the current ones weren't there when he was.

"They are going to be motivated and admiring a player who was one of Arsenal's greats."

Ferguson's defensive options have been bolstered by the return of Chris Smalling and Phil Jones.

England striker Danny Welbeck should shrug off the blow he suffered in scoring against Bolton last week to partner Wayne Rooney in attack.

As Ferguson noted, it is the start of a tough run that also includes trips to Chelsea and Tottenham, plus those two encounters with Liverpool, which would increase to three if next weekend's FA Cup fourth-round tie requires a replay.

Ferguson believes it is how United come through these fixtures that will determine the extent of their trophy challenge this term.

"Normally there are quite a few of these big matches at the end of the season," he said.

"But we have had situations in the past where you have a clutch of games against teams who are challenging in the league with you.

"We know it could decide a lot of the season but you just have to cope with it because it is the same for everyone else."

mr_missile
21-01-2012, 08:24 AM
SAF: Cleverley comeback close

Tom Cleverley is in line to make his Manchester United comeback in next month's Premier League encounter with Liverpool on February 11.

The midfielder was one of the major influences behind United's flying start to the season, which earned him England call-ups for the postponed August friendly against Holland and the Euro 2012 qualifiers with Bulgaria and Wales.

Yet, almost immediately, injury intervened.

First the 22-year-old suffered a foot problem during the September win at Bolton, then, on his Premier League reappearance at Everton, Cleverley sustained a blow to his ankle and has been sidelined ever since.

However, Ferguson confirmed he is back on the comeback trail and should be able to play a part in football training within 10 days.

And, if all goes to plan, Cleverley could be fit for match action within a week, which would put him on target to face Liverpool.

"I am hopeful in 10 days' time he will be playing football on the training side of it anyway. That is the plan unless there is any recurrence of the injury," Ferguson said.

"Then we can kick on.

"When he plays properly depends how he does in the training.

"His fitness levels should be fine, so he could cope right away.

"If he can, you are talking about a week."

And that, coming in the middle of a crucial period when United face a succession of top six contenders, could provide the Red Devils with a significant lift.

"It would be a great boost to us," said Ferguson.

"The way that Tom started the season was absolutely phenomenal.

"I have not seen a young player have that impact at our club for a long time.

"He has been a loss because he has something different from everyone else."

joew2005
23-01-2012, 10:37 AM
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/22012012/58/premier-league-paper-round-united-bid-50m-modric.html

Premier League - Paper Round: United to bid £50m for Modric
Sun, 22 Jan 08:04:00 2012

The Croatian star has also been a transfer target 4 Chelsea 4 some time, but Spurs hv so far rejected all offers 4 him.

The Mail on Sunday reports tat United know tat title contenders Tottenham will not allow 1 of their star players 2 leave @ tis stage of a crucial season 4 them, but they will throw the vast sum @ the London club in the summer 2 try & find the midfield lynchpin they're sorely lacking.

Modric could double his current £60,000-a-week earnings @ United without a ruckus, whereas the paper claims the Red Devils' other target Wesley Sneijder needs £250,000 a week 2 match his current salary @ Internazionale - which could cause problems within the dressing room.

Spurs hv slapped a world-record £150m pricetag on Gareth Bale, according 2 the Sunday Mirror.

ManC hv been linked with a move 4 the Wales star aft rumours surfaced of a £50m escape clause in his contract.

However the Stellar Group, who represent Bale, hv confirmed tat no such clause exists - & with the record 4 any transfer being the £80m Real Madrid paid ManU 4 Cristiano Ronaldo, it is unlikely City or any1 else would cough up such a huge fee.

Carlos Tevez is still in negotiations with PSG abt a transfer fr the Manchester club, the Mail reports, but the paper quotes agent Kia Joorabchian saying tat there is "still some way 2 go" b4 any deal is agreed.

The Mirror claims tat he will not play in France & has his heart set on a move 2 1 of the Milan clubs. City had refused 2 entertain the notion of a loan deal 2 Milan, but the paper reckons tat stance has softened with 9 days left in the transfer window: they could allow him 2 join until the end of the season if Milan agree 2 make the deal permanent in the summer.

Tottenham defender Verdan Corluka is the subject of interest fr Serie A side Roma.

Spurs will not allow Croatia midfielder Niko Kranjcar 2 join QPR.

Man Utd r in talks 2 sign Crystal Palace defender Nathaniel Clyne for £3m, according 2 the Manchester Evening News.

Liverpool r trying 2 sign Juventus winger Milos Krasic on a loan deal.

Lazio r set 2 fight United & Liverpool 4 Sporting Lisbon striker Ricky van Wolfswinkel.

Newcastle r desperate 2 sign duo Danny Guthrie - who scored a screamer in the defeat @ Fulham yesterday - & Fabricio Coloccini 2 new contracts.

Stoke hv told striker Kenwyne Jones he will not be allowed 2 make a big-$ move 2 Saudi side Al-Hilal.

Rickey
28-01-2012, 11:36 PM
They're have just been dumped out of the FA Cup by their arch rivals LIV...goalkeeper DDG making silly errors & cost them quite a no of goals & they dun seem to hav consistently good strikers...Whenever they meet Pool, majority of the time they will lose..wat jinx..even minnows like Bolton can beat Pool, why can't the red devils...haiz...Their only hope now is the EPL title, o/w this season they will be trophyless for once...tink SAF oso giv up...sigh

mr_missile
02-02-2012, 05:19 PM
Agent: Veseli wasn't progressing

Frederic Veseli crossed the Manchester divide from City to United because he felt the Blues' priorities have moved from nurturing youngsters.

The 19-year-old was United's only deadline-day signing and will initially link up with Warren Joyce's reserve-team squad before pushing for a chance at senior level.

Skipper of the Swiss Under-17 side crowned world champions in 2009, Veseli hoped to get his chance at City this term after being part of Roberto Mancini's squad for the pre-season tour of the United States.

However, the opportunity never came and as Veseli grew disillusioned, in stepped United, whose manager Sir Alex Ferguson has never been afraid to give youngsters a go.

"These days, Manchester City are chasing titles and major trophies," explained Veseli's agent Adam Bouskouchi said.

"It is difficult for them to have faith in youth because they obviously feel experience is the best way for them to get where they want to go.

"But that attitude didn't help Freddie, who just felt like he wasn't progressing.

"On that pre-season tour, both Roberto Mancini and - director of football - Brian Marwood said how well he had done. But since then, nothing."

In fairness to Mancini, he does not have 12 league titles to fall back on if he gets it wrong.

It cannot be underestimated how much strength that gives to Ferguson, who handed Ben Amos and Paul Pogba their Premier League debuts in Tuesday night's win over Stoke.

"Freddie spoke with several clubs, here and abroad," said Bouskouchi.

"But he wants to be a top player in England and when Sir Alex spoke to him, it made such an impression.

"He is a difficult man to say no to and his track record was enough for Freddie to feel he was making the right choice to join United."

As City are not part of the Premier Reserve League, Veseli is lacking match fitness at present.

However, his aims are clear, both in the short-term and then later in the year, when Switzerland will be amongst the countries competiting at the London Olympics.

"First his challenge is to establish himself at reserve level, then push on for the first team," said Bouskouchi.

"But the Swiss Federation have also been in touch and they are keeping track of him.

"However, they have said Freddie must at least be involved at reserve team level before they could consider him for the Olympics."

S.B.Y.1
06-02-2012, 01:20 AM
Man U still having Bakkwas on the Eve of The End of The Lunar New Year :p

60th minit - Chelsea 3 Man United One :D

Ferguson's CHEWING his gum much faster than Pak's Heartbest

His face is much more REDDER than Rudolf The RED nose Reindeer

S.B.Y.1
06-02-2012, 02:05 AM
Guess it's Bakkwa sharing for Chealsea n Man U :D

Lucky penalties :(

It's Chealsea's lost

badboynani17
06-02-2012, 11:39 AM
Man U still having Bakkwas on the Eve of The End of The Lunar New Year :p

60th minit - Chelsea 3 Man United One :D

Ferguson's CHEWING his gum much faster than Pak's Heartbest

His face is much more REDDER than Rudolf The RED nose Reindeer

haha bro... looks like you posted too early. the game is still not over till the final whistle. See how Utd came back from 3 goals to draw. Whether the penalties were justified or not it's inmaterial. the final scoreline matters.

Well, now have to beat City to remain in the title challenge, if not City may just get their first EPL title and make history. But I hope it will not happen! lol

mr_missile
06-02-2012, 01:03 PM
Guess it's Bakkwa sharing for Chealsea n Man U :D

Lucky penalties :(

It's Chealsea's lost

hahaha pak, lucky penalties? the ref should have given man united one in the 1st half but didn't. guess he was just trying to "make up" for that mistake. :D


United fight back to hold Blues

Wayne Rooney scored two penalties as Manchester United came from 3-0 down to draw 3-3 with Chelsea in the Premier League at Stamford Bridge.

Despite dominating for long periods, United's Stamford Bridge curse looked to have struck again when Jonny Evans put Daniel Sturridge's cross into his own net, Juan Mata scored a superb goal and a David Luiz header flew in off the shoulder of Rio Ferdinand.

But the champions were awarded two penalties, both convered by Rooney, before substitute Javier Hernandez headed home a Ryan Giggs cross to earn the champions a share of the spoils.

It was more dropped points for Chelsea from a winning position as they almost lost at home in the league to United for the first time in 10 years.

Even though he was not playing, John Terry cast a long shadow over proceedings, with the visiting supporters taunting him over his highly-publicised problems.

Chelsea fans predictably showed their backing with chants of "There's only one England captain", while jeering Rio Ferdinand's every touch.

They also had plenty of fun at the expense of David De Gea, who was making his first league appearance of 2012 and whose edginess was betrayed in the eighth minute when he flapped at a cross.

But it was Chelsea who were soon breathing a sigh of relief as two United penalty cries were ignored.

The first saw Ashley Young go down rather easily under pressure from Jose Bosingwa, who got the nod at left-back with Ashley Cole suspended.

Moments later, Danny Welbeck went down after being caught by the trailing leg of Chelsea debutant Gary Cahill, an outraged Sir Alex Ferguson racing onto the pitch as Howard Webb ignored the United appeals.

Replays appeared to show Cahill had won the ball before catching Welbeck, but the decision only fuelled a poisonous atmosphere that included more abusive chants about Terry and Ferdinand.

The football did little to lift the mood until just before the half-hour when Branislav Ivanovic just beat Welbeck to Rooney's cross after a wonderful ball from Antonio Valencia.

Webb brandished his yellow card when Fernando Torres ran into the back of Evans, for whom insult was added to injury nine minutes before half-time when he inadvertently gave Chelsea the lead.

United failed to clear their lines and the ball broke to Sturridge, who got past Evra to the byline and fired in a cross that hit De Gea and then went in off Evans' arm.

Sturridge's vicious drive was repelled by De Gea before Petr Cech was finally called into meaningful action when he got fingertips on Young's curler.

The Chelsea goalkeeper then produced an even better stop on Welbeck's snapshot and Ivanovic was booked for running into Young as United finished the first half on top.

Ferguson had complained in his pre-match interview that the away dressing room was frigid enough to "hang meat in" and the visitors were certainly caught cold at the restart as the home side trebled their advantage inside five minutes.

The second goal took less than 30 seconds, Torres getting clear down the right and whipping in the perfect cross for Mata to lash home a wonderful volley before De Gea could even move.

If that was sublime, the third was unlucky again for United, with Luiz heading Mata's free-kick against the shoulder of Ferdinand and into the net.

However, United, who threw on Hernandez for Young, enjoyed a spectacular reversal of fortune when they were awarded two penalties inside 10 minutes.

The first saw Sturridge adjudged to have knocked over Evra, with Chelsea boss Andre Villas-Boas launching a bottle into the advertising hoarding in disgust before Rooney stepped up to blast the penalty into the top left-hand corner.

Juan Mata and Rooney tested the goalkeeper at either end and Paul Scholes came on for Rafael before Webb pointed to the spot again when Welbeck tripped over the leg of Ivanovic.

This time Rooney went to Cech's left to put United within one goal of another astonishing comeback.

And although Oriol Romeu came on to shore things up and De Gea produced another uncomfortable punch on Michael Essien's drive, Ferguson's men deservedly equalised six minutes from time.

Cech could only parry Rooney's shot out to Ryan Giggs on the left and the veteran crossed for the unmarked Hernandez to head straight through Cech.

Raul Meireles almost snatched it for Chelsea when he nodded Florent Malouda's cross over the top and De Gea produced two stunning stoppage-time saves to keep out Mata's free-kick and Cahill's drive.

S.B.Y.1
06-02-2012, 02:35 PM
[QUOTE=mr_missile;6853775]hahaha pak, lucky penalties? the ref should have given man united one in the 1st half but didn't. guess he was just trying to "make up" for that mistake. :D

Referee fear Ferguson might Chew his gums instead . :D

S.B.Y.1
06-02-2012, 03:26 PM
[QUOTE=mr_missile;6853775]hahaha pak, lucky penalties? the ref should have given man united one in the 1st half but didn't. guess he was just trying to "make up" for that mistake. :D

Referee fear Ferguson might Chew his gums instead . :D

mr_missile
07-02-2012, 08:12 AM
Referee fear Ferguson might Chew his gums instead . :D

hahaha....maybe pak, maybe! :D

oh ya, caught the 2nd half of this morning's game between your pool and spurs. quite a boring draw eh? seems like pool is dropping a lot of points with all these draws at home.

This sat, Feb 11, is the BIG one pak! Pool comes to Old Trafford! ;)

badboynani17
07-02-2012, 10:25 AM
hahaha....maybe pak, maybe! :D

oh ya, caught the 2nd half of this morning's game between your pool and spurs. quite a boring draw eh? seems like pool is dropping a lot of points with all these draws at home.

This sat, Feb 11, is the BIG one pak! Pool comes to Old Trafford! ;)

Super boring game last night! Aiyo, my eyes couldn't stay opened towards the end of the match and buay tahan liao then went to bed.

Yes bro, can't wait for Liverpool to visit Old Trafford this weekend. I'm sure the Red Devils will take revenge! Glory Glory Man Utd!!! :D

shark89
07-02-2012, 12:22 PM
Yes bro, can't wait for Liverpool to visit Old Trafford this weekend. I'm sure the Red Devils will take revenge! Glory Glory Man Utd!!! :D

Bro, let's not talk about revenge. Just let the football do the talking. ;)

Am sure Pool will rather be in our shoes now (even though we are out of Champ League, Carling Cup and FA Cup this season already) as we should be in the Champs League next season barring an unthinkable collapse.

So what if you go on to win the Carling Cup and maybe even go to Wembley again for the FA Cup if you fail to qualify for the Champs League next season?

There is a very distinct possibility that the top 4 will be out of their reach. The top 2 is between City and United. 3rd place seems to be Spurs to lose, leaving the 4th and final spot to be battled out by Chelsea, Arsenal and Pool. I don't see Newcastle lasting the pace.

S.B.Y.1
07-02-2012, 12:33 PM
hahaha....maybe pak, maybe! :D

oh ya, caught the 2nd half of this morning's game between your pool and spurs. quite a boring draw eh? seems like pool is dropping a lot of points with all these draws at home.

This sat, Feb 11, is the BIG one pak! Pool comes to Old Trafford! ;)

Read in the internet that Wrigley's chewing gum factory working 24/7 :D this week ;)

Btw Chewing gumGerson team tel0r - Liverpool 1

mr_missile
07-02-2012, 12:41 PM
Read in the internet that Wrigley's chewing gum factory working 24/7 :D this week ;)

Btw Chewing gumGerson team tel0r - Liverpool 1

hahaha....pak, i like your sense of humour! gd one there!

but i beg to differ on your predicted scoreline. united will win by 2 goals. ;)

mr_missile
09-02-2012, 10:44 AM
De Gea wants to be United great

David De Gea is convinced he will remain at Manchester United for 'many years' as he continues to find his feet in English football.

The 21-year-old goalkeeper arrived at Old Trafford last summer with a big reputation and a billing as a potential star of the future.

A hefty transfer fee and the expectation which accompanies turning out for one of the biggest clubs in the world has weighed heavy on his shoulders at times, with a number of nervy performances leading some to question his prospects of remaining at United long-term.

De Gea, though, maintains complete faith in his own ability and is confident he will prove to be a shrewd acquisition if he is given the time he needs in which to showcase his true ability.

"I have every intention of spending many years at Manchester United," said the Spaniard.

"I want to go on to become a great United keeper and to earn and deserve respect. I want to help United make history."

Part of the problem for De Gea this season has been his lightweight frame, with Premier League opponents having discovered that the best way to rattle him is to get in his face.

He admits that it has taken time for him to grow accustomed to the physicality of life in the English top-flight, but insists he always knew that he was going to face such challenges.

He added: "I think it is fair to say La Liga and the Premier League are the two best leagues in the world.

"But it's well known the style of play here is rather more physical and, as a goalkeeper, you have to be right on it. You have to be attentive all through the match.

"The players coming at you can shoot from any angle and from distance. You need to be aware you might get a shot from distance at any time.

"Having said that, there's a lot of crosses from the sides, a lot of high balls and aerial play. So you have to be able to get in there and block, interfere and stop shots being taken.

"I knew when I was coming to United this was the style of play. So I was pretty much ready and I was already confident."

machoman
12-02-2012, 07:58 AM
Rooney brace sinks Liverpool

Saturday, February 11, 2012 8 hours ago

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Wayne Rooney scored both goals as Manchester United moved back to the summit of the Premiership with a 2-1 over Liverpool at Old Trafford with Luis Suarez replying for the visitors.

With this game being overshadowed with United’s Patrice Evra and Suarez coming face to face for the first time since the Uruguayan served an eight game ban for racially abusing the Frenchman the first-half was low key with the host’s having the majority of the possession but without really threatening to score.

Paul Scholes had Man United’s best chance when he headed straight at keeper Jose Reina but the moment of controversy arrived just before the break as last man Rio Ferdinand, as television replays showed, just got the ball ahead of Suarez who claimed he had been fouled and wanted the England international to see red.

As the whistle blew for the break Suarez angrily kicked the ball into touch sparking a minor incident amongst the players.

The Uruguayan had been the subject of controversy after refusing to shake the hand of Patrice Evra before the game.

But within three minutes of the restart United had scored twice, both by Rooney.

The first followed a Ryan Giggs corner which was flicked-on and Rooney volleyed home. Then Jay Spearing was caught in possession and Antonio Valencia immediately slipped the ball through for the England international to double the host’s lead.

At this stage there seemed no way back for Liverpool who looked disjointed and shocked by the two-goal salvo. The home side easily retained possession and looked to be comfortably playing out time until with ten minutes remaining Liverpool were handed a lifeline.

Substitute Charlie Adam flung over a free kick which hit Ferdinand before falling kindly for Suarez to poke home from close range.

The men from Anfield increased the tempo but it was too late and United clung on for the tree points and their seventh league win over Liverpool at Old Trafford in eight matches.

Referee: Phil Dowd

Venue: Old Trafford

Attendance: 74,844

Man Utd scorers: Rooney 47,49 Liverpool scorers: Suarez 80

machoman
12-02-2012, 08:09 AM
Evra's & Ferninand's "handshake" with Suarez & Evra celebrating in front of Suarez after the match

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badboynani17
12-02-2012, 11:46 AM
Evra's & Ferninand's "handshake" with Suarez & Evra celebrating in front of Suarez after the match

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I love it when Ferdinand refused to shake his hand! What a loser Suarez is!

mr_missile
13-02-2012, 07:54 AM
I love it when Ferdinand refused to shake his hand! What a loser Suarez is!

suarez is an absolute disgrace to the sport. all my friends who are Pool supporters couldn't believe what they saw on TV when suarez refused to shake hands with evra. they too were absolutely disappointed with his unsportmanship and childish behaviour. absolutely disappointed.

let's see if any of the Pool players (and I don't mean those nonsensical rants by the so-called Pool fans in the Pool thread :rolleyes:) have got anything to say about this now.

i sure hope the FA comes down hard on him.

mr_missile
13-02-2012, 07:59 AM
evra too should be disciplined for celebrating the win infront of suarez. that was uncalled for and i believe saf will discipline him.

mr_missile
13-02-2012, 08:05 AM
Reds misled, Suarez and KD sorry

Liverpool say Luis Suarez misled them before refusing to shake Patrice Evra's hand, with the player and Kenny Dalglish having issued apologies.

Manchester United have thanked their rivals for the apologies and insist they want to "move on" from the whole affair.

Liverpool claim Suarez indicated to them he would shake hands with United defender Evra prior to Saturday's Premier League game at Old Trafford before refusing to do so on the pitch.

The Uruguayan, who was banned for eight matches after racially abusing Evra during the league game between the sides at Anfield in October, had been expected to shake hands with the Frenchman, but failed to do so.

On Sunday, Suarez apologised for his actions and Liverpool managing director Ian Ayre also released a statement criticising Suarez's actions.

Later, Reds manager Dalglish apologised for his conduct during his post-match interview with Sky Sports.

Ayre said: "We are extremely disappointed Luis Suarez did not shake hands with Patrice Evra before yesterday's game. The player had told us beforehand that he would, but then chose not to do so.

"He was wrong to mislead us and wrong not to offer his hand to Patrice Evra. He has not only let himself down, but also Kenny Dalglish, his team-mates and the club.

"It has been made absolutely clear to Luis Suarez that his behaviour was not acceptable.

"Luis Suarez has now apologised for his actions which was the right thing to do. However, all of us have a duty to behave in a responsible manner and we hope that he now understands what is expected of anyone representing Liverpool Football Club."

Suarez issued his own apology, which read: "I have spoken with the manager (Kenny Dalglish) since the game at Old Trafford and I realise I got things wrong.

"I've not only let him down, but also the club and what it stands for and I'm sorry. I made a mistake and I regret what happened.

"I should have shaken Patrice Evra's hand before the game and I want to apologise for my actions.

"I would like to put this whole issue behind me and concentrate on playing football."

Dalglish said in a statement: "Ian Ayre has made the club's position absolutely clear and it is right that Luis Suarez has now apologised for what happened at Old Trafford.

"To be honest, I was shocked to hear that the player had not shaken hands having been told earlier in the week that he would do.

"But as Ian said earlier, all of us have a responsibility to represent this Club in a fit and proper manner and that applies equally to me as Liverpool manager.

"When I went on TV after yesterday's game I hadn't seen what had happened, but I did not conduct myself in a way befitting of a Liverpool manager during that interview and I'd like to apologise for that."

United then issued their own statement, which read: "Manchester United thanks Liverpool for the apologies issued following Saturday's game.

"Everyone at Old Trafford wants to move on from this. The history of our two great clubs is one of success and rivalry unparalleled in British football.

"That should be the focus in the future of all those who love the clubs."

Suarez scored in a 2-1 defeat for Liverpool, with Evra appearing to taunt the South American by celebrating right next to him at the end of the match.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson described Suarez as "a disgrace" and suggested he should never play for Liverpool again while Professional Footballers' Association chief executive Gordon Taylor branded Suarez's conduct as "disrespectful, inappropriate and embarrassing".

Taylor added: "If anything, Patrice Evra was the victim and he was prepared to put his hand out.

"These players are expected to be role models but if we have a situation where nobody accepts the findings of hearings and just carries on regardless, all you get is anarchy.

"Now the Football Association have to step in because the whole situation has gone too far.

"Suarez had a chance to put everything to be yesterday, in front of a worldwide audience. The fact that he chose not to is, quite frankly, depressing."

Having already defended his man in the flash TV interview with Sky Sports, Dalglish opted not to make himself available for further discussion on the matter.

On Saturday night, long-time friend Alan Hansen did not say on Match of the Day whether he had spoken to Dalglish prior to transmission.

However, his own observation was withering in its condemnation.

"Liverpool FC made a statement that there would be a handshake," he said.

"Luis Suarez was party to the statement. He knew about it and obviously agreed with it. To snub Patrice Evra was, in my view, totally unacceptable.

"The football club and the manager have given him total and unequivocal support through thick and thin.

"He has let Kenny Dalglish down, the club down and himself down."

badboynani17
13-02-2012, 11:30 AM
Good statement from Suarez. His apology makes my day!!! :D

mr_missile
13-02-2012, 12:24 PM
Good statement from Suarez. His apology makes my day!!! :D

his big boss, the managing director, already very pissed off with him. he still dare not to apologise meh? :rolleyes:

yinyang
13-02-2012, 12:53 PM
Seems Suarez has a bit of history before Pool

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/sunsport_columnists/4124771/Luis-Suarez-row-Steven-Howard-says-Suarez-is-a-sorry-mess.html

shark89
13-02-2012, 01:54 PM
Seems Suarez has a bit of history before Pool

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/sunsport_columnists/4124771/Luis-Suarez-row-Steven-Howard-says-Suarez-is-a-sorry-mess.html

Thanks for the link bro. Suarez is a big joke. Made a fool out of his own club, manager, fellow players and fans who "stood by" him when he was accused "wrongly". BIG JOKE! He should be banned for 16 matches now and then sold to play in Africa! :mad:

mr_missile
16-02-2012, 08:37 AM
Ferguson gives Evra a break

Patrice Evra has been left out of Manchester United's Europa League trip to Amsterdam as a result of his "emotional week".

Evra was missing from the Red Devils squad that flew into the Dutch capital this afternoon, just four days after he was at the centre of the handshake row with Luis Suarez.

And Sir Alex Ferguson revealed he felt the France full-back had been through so much, it was better for him to remain at home.

"We have rested Patrice," said the United boss.

"It has been an emotional week for him and it is the right thing to do."

It was the first time Ferguson has spoken about Saturday's events since he labelled Suarez "a disgrace" and claimed he should be sold.

Since then, Suarez has apologised for his actions, part of a massive Liverpool climbdown that also brought words of contrition from manager Kenny Dalglish and managing director Ian Ayre.

Ferguson admitted he had not spoken to Evra about the weekend events.

However, he did admit to welcoming Liverpool's shift in stance, which he hopes will allow the Merseysiders' unique rivalry with United to advance in a more normal fashion.

"We are all delighted that we have put the matter to an end," he said.

"The two clubs, Manchester United and Liverpool, have too much great history and great rivalry. That is what we are going to concentrate on in the future.

"Both sets of supporters should be pleased and delighted that all we are going to talk about is who is going to win the game.

"Sometimes we will lose to Liverpool, sometimes we will win. But one thing you cannot take away is that both of us need each other."

badboynani17
16-02-2012, 01:55 PM
No Evra how to win Ajax? Fabio is not as good as him leh... ok la, give him a chance to prove himself. Maybe he will shine againt Ajax. And funny why SAF left out Berbatov. He injured meh????

mr_missile
17-02-2012, 11:44 AM
Ash and Chicharito sink Ajax

Goals from Ashley Young and Javier Hernandez gave Manchester United a 2-0 win at Ajax in Thursday's Europa League last-32 first-leg tie.

Young's first United goal since September set the Red Devils on their way to a comfortable victory in Amsterdam.

The last time the England winger found the net was a last-gasp face-saver against Basel at Old Trafford, in a match which Sir Alex Ferguson still looks back on as the draw that cost his team their place in the Champions League.

And, after a poor first-half, the visitors roused themselves after the break and Young's 59th-minute strike came at the end of their most threatening spell, the former Aston Villa man tucking home after Nani's cross had been deflected into his path.

Hernandez added a second five minutes from time to secure a result that will allow Ferguson to take a pragmatic approach to next week's second leg, which, unlike Thursday evening, will be followed four days later by a crucial Premier League game, against high-flying Norwich at Carrow Road.

As Tom Cleverley was handed his European debut after playing just twice since the beginning of September and not at all for over three months, Nani and Phil Jones back after four match absences and Young only just returned from a pre-Christmas injury, it was perhaps no surprise United were so far off the pace.

Too many first touches and passes went astray.

Crossing was a particularly bad area.

Nani sent one corner straight out for a goal kick, failed to pick out a team-mate with one obvious cross and then smashed a shot into the side-netting from an impossible angle as Wayne Rooney and Hernandez screamed for a pass.

On the other flank, Young fared only marginally better and though Cleverley flickered, he could not sustain his impact for any length of time.

As usual then, Rooney was the visitors' main threat, although his 25-yard effort lacked the venom to beat Kenneth Vermeer with the best chance of that tepid opening period.

Ajax played the kind of free-flowing passing football for which Holland is renowned.

Christian Eriksen may be a Dane but it was easy to see why he chose Holland to learn his trade rather than expose himself to the physicality of the Premier League.

Eriksen prodded and probed and tested David de Gea with a couple of pot shots.

Siem de Jong came closest to breaking the deadlock though, also from long-range.

The wide-man's shot was on target though and De Gea needed to stretch to keep it out.

When United last appeared in a European game outside the Champions League, goalkeeper Peter Schmeichel was amongst the scorers.

De Gea never contemplated emulating the great Dane. His stock is starting to rise though and Ajax refused to reduce themselves to pumping their opponents' box with crosses in an effort to expose the Spain star's weakeness under a high ball.

That there was no injury-time reflected a general lack of first-half excitement.

There as a talking point in the final minute though when Miralem Sulejmani went down under Rio Ferdinand's challenge.

Ajax were convinced it was a penalty. Italian referee Gianluca Rocchi decided otherwise, leaving Ferdinand to hobble down the tunnel for his break.

Stand-in skipper for the night in place of an emotionally drained Patrice Evra, Ferdinand was able to return for a second-half United began with far more zip than they had shown previously.

Jan Vertonghen was at full stretch to prevent Young's cross reaching Jones at the far post and Vermeer and Vurnon Anita combined to snuff out an opening that seemed to be presenting itself to Hernandez.

United were definitely turning the screw though and it was no surprise they broke the deadlock just before the hour.

So frustrating so often, Nani for once managed to find a team-mate with a cross that flicked off an Ajax defender.

Young steadied himself after beating Anita, eventually drilling a low shot through a crowd of bodies.

It was Young's fourth goal since his £18million summer move to United from Villa and was followed immediately by Cleverley's departure for Paul Scholes, in the absence of Ryan Giggs the only remaining member of that 1995 UEFA Cup team.

Antonio Valencia's introduction for Young provided the South American with enough time to begin a move that ended with Hernandez exchanging passes with Rooney before slotting home his third goal in as many games and ninth of the season.

Valencia was instantly replaced after taking a knock in the build-up, although it only appeared to be a precaution.

badboynani17
17-02-2012, 05:17 PM
Ash and Chicharito sink Ajax

Goals from Ashley Young and Javier Hernandez gave Manchester United a 2-0 win at Ajax in Thursday's Europa League last-32 first-leg tie.

Young's first United goal since September set the Red Devils on their way to a comfortable victory in Amsterdam.

The last time the England winger found the net was a last-gasp face-saver against Basel at Old Trafford, in a match which Sir Alex Ferguson still looks back on as the draw that cost his team their place in the Champions League.

And, after a poor first-half, the visitors roused themselves after the break and Young's 59th-minute strike came at the end of their most threatening spell, the former Aston Villa man tucking home after Nani's cross had been deflected into his path.

Hernandez added a second five minutes from time to secure a result that will allow Ferguson to take a pragmatic approach to next week's second leg, which, unlike Thursday evening, will be followed four days later by a crucial Premier League game, against high-flying Norwich at Carrow Road.

As Tom Cleverley was handed his European debut after playing just twice since the beginning of September and not at all for over three months, Nani and Phil Jones back after four match absences and Young only just returned from a pre-Christmas injury, it was perhaps no surprise United were so far off the pace.

Too many first touches and passes went astray.

Crossing was a particularly bad area.

Nani sent one corner straight out for a goal kick, failed to pick out a team-mate with one obvious cross and then smashed a shot into the side-netting from an impossible angle as Wayne Rooney and Hernandez screamed for a pass.

On the other flank, Young fared only marginally better and though Cleverley flickered, he could not sustain his impact for any length of time.

As usual then, Rooney was the visitors' main threat, although his 25-yard effort lacked the venom to beat Kenneth Vermeer with the best chance of that tepid opening period.

Ajax played the kind of free-flowing passing football for which Holland is renowned.

Christian Eriksen may be a Dane but it was easy to see why he chose Holland to learn his trade rather than expose himself to the physicality of the Premier League.

Eriksen prodded and probed and tested David de Gea with a couple of pot shots.

Siem de Jong came closest to breaking the deadlock though, also from long-range.

The wide-man's shot was on target though and De Gea needed to stretch to keep it out.

When United last appeared in a European game outside the Champions League, goalkeeper Peter Schmeichel was amongst the scorers.

De Gea never contemplated emulating the great Dane. His stock is starting to rise though and Ajax refused to reduce themselves to pumping their opponents' box with crosses in an effort to expose the Spain star's weakeness under a high ball.

That there was no injury-time reflected a general lack of first-half excitement.

There as a talking point in the final minute though when Miralem Sulejmani went down under Rio Ferdinand's challenge.

Ajax were convinced it was a penalty. Italian referee Gianluca Rocchi decided otherwise, leaving Ferdinand to hobble down the tunnel for his break.

Stand-in skipper for the night in place of an emotionally drained Patrice Evra, Ferdinand was able to return for a second-half United began with far more zip than they had shown previously.

Jan Vertonghen was at full stretch to prevent Young's cross reaching Jones at the far post and Vermeer and Vurnon Anita combined to snuff out an opening that seemed to be presenting itself to Hernandez.

United were definitely turning the screw though and it was no surprise they broke the deadlock just before the hour.

So frustrating so often, Nani for once managed to find a team-mate with a cross that flicked off an Ajax defender.

Young steadied himself after beating Anita, eventually drilling a low shot through a crowd of bodies.

It was Young's fourth goal since his £18million summer move to United from Villa and was followed immediately by Cleverley's departure for Paul Scholes, in the absence of Ryan Giggs the only remaining member of that 1995 UEFA Cup team.

Antonio Valencia's introduction for Young provided the South American with enough time to begin a move that ended with Hernandez exchanging passes with Rooney before slotting home his third goal in as many games and ninth of the season.

Valencia was instantly replaced after taking a knock in the build-up, although it only appeared to be a precaution.

Ajax was weak! I don't find them threatening at all. All their shots went directly to De Gea, easy saves for him except for one curler which De Gea made a spectacular save.

Glory Glory Man Utd! :D

BeCkHaM_
18-02-2012, 02:29 AM
MU won by fine goal keeping from De Gea

mr_missile
18-02-2012, 07:52 AM
Ajax was weak! I don't find them threatening at all. All their shots went directly to De Gea, easy saves for him except for one curler which De Gea made a spectacular save.

Glory Glory Man Utd! :D

MU won by fine goal keeping from De Gea

de gea has played well in the recent games vs chelski, pool and ajax. let's hope this gives him a much needed confidence boost. :)

a good start to the so-called "2nd tier" european games. only setback is the hamstring injury suffered by our in-form winger valencia. he will be out for a month.

but it's great to see nani, young and especially cleverley back from injuries! :)

mr_missile
18-02-2012, 07:53 AM
Valencia injury blow for United

Antonio Valencia is set to be sidelined for around four weeks after sustaining a hamstring injury in Manchester United's 2-0 win at Ajax.

Sir Alex Ferguson confirmed United winger Valencia's injury after Thursday evening's Europa League round-of-32 tie in Amsterdam.

Valencia had only been introduced as a second-half substitute and helped set up Javier Hernandez's match-clinching goal, United's second.

However, the South American was injured in the build-up and was immediately taken off by manager Ferguson.

"He has a hamstring injury unfortunately," Ferguson said. "It will be four weeks."

Ferguson admitted it was a significant setback given the brilliant form Valencia has been in recently.

"It is a bad blow for us," he said.

If there was a positive from Valencia's injury, which will rule him out of the key Premier League showdown with Tottenham at White Hart Lane on March 4, it was that Nani and Ashley Young were amongst those to return to action.

Young marked his first appearance since Christmas with his fourth goal of the season, breaking the deadlock after a dismal first-half display.

"It was Ashley's first game in two months," said Ferguson.

"Nani came back as well, Phil Jones has played a full game, which is good for us and Tom Cleverley has played a bit of football too so bit by bit we are getting stronger."

With Hernandez adding to Young's effort, United can now hit the cruise button for next Thursday's Old Trafford return, which is followed by a trip to Norwich four days later.

However, Ferguson admitted the outcome did not look likely at the interval.

"The result was better than the performance," he said.

"The first half was disappointing. We found it difficult to get rhythm and speed to our game. Ajax pressed the ball very well and played nice football.

"We had to waken up in the second half because we were making it difficult for ourselves.

"The second half improved and we made some good opportunities. We deserved to win and you can't complain too much when you win 2-0 away from home."

Providing they avoid an unexpected disaster next week United will face either Lokomotiv Moscow or Athletic Bilbao for a place in the last 16.

The Russians hold a narrow 2-1 lead after the first leg, raising the potential for a lengthy trip to Moscow in between key Premier League fixtures against West Brom and Wolves.

It is the kind of draining schedule that has caught out so many other teams in the past.

However, Ferguson is hopeful United have the strength to meet the demands.

"Hopefully we have the squad to cope with this competition," he said, contemplating a rare weekend off as United are out of the FA Cup.

"Of course, it is difficult to say because we have never experienced it.

"But there are some very good teams in it, so there is no lack of incentive.

"Winning is a habit too and we are in a good spell just now."

Meanwhile, Hernandez has warned his United team-mates that their progression is not yet assured.

"We know it is a leg of two games. We wanted a great result and thankfully we got the two goals," he told Channel Five.

"We know Ajax is a difficult team, they have history in the European cups.

"We know there is 90 minutes more.

"We can't say we are through yet."

In his TV interview, Ferguson said he was disappointed with his side's performance, but was pleased with the result.

"I'm delighted with the scoreline," he said.

"It was a very ordinary performance from us though. We didn't hit any great heights.

"We improved in the second half and probably deserved to win it in the end.

"I know Ajax can make it difficult with the system they play, but we didn't get any tempo into our game.

"It was not a brilliant performance, but good enough.

"It gives us a good opportunity, but we won't take it for granted.

"But at home at Old Trafford we have a good opportunity to get through."

Ajax coach Frank de Boer was proud of his side's performance but felt small details had gone against them, including Rio Ferdinand's challenge on Miralem Sulejmani at the end of the first-half, which he was convinced should have been a penalty.

"To beat a team like Manchester United, everyone needs to play at 100% and you also need a bit of luck," said De Boer.

"That was not the case tonight.

"The big difference between us and the big European teams is that they only need a small chance to score. We had chances and didn't score.

"I am realistic. I don't think we are going to make it at Old Trafford. But we will go there for the experience and hope to have a fantastic evening."

De Boer also felt star youngsters Jan Vertonghen and Christian Eriksen had come through a very important examination in their development.

"They will definitely reach the level of teams like Manchester United in the coming years," he said.

"They are close now and hopefully we can keep hold of them for as long as possible."

kiko
19-02-2012, 06:00 PM
Actually i feel Pique is a good player at barcelona, i wonder why Ferguson sells him.. can any bros here share ?

mr_missile
20-02-2012, 09:37 AM
Actually i feel Pique is a good player at barcelona, i wonder why Ferguson sells him.. can any bros here share ?

gerard pique has definitely established himself as more than a fine player at barca now.

when he was still at old trafford, he was behind the 1st choice central pairing of vidic and ferdinand. he and johnny evans were being groomed to take over vidic and ferdie. but then his old club barca came calling and fergie could not hang on to him.

now we have young stars jones, smalling and evans to vie for the central defensive roles to take over from vidic and ferdie. not too bad choices lah. ;)

badboynani17
20-02-2012, 11:17 AM
gerard pique has definitely established himself as more than a fine player at barca now.

when he was still at old trafford, he was behind the 1st choice central pairing of vidic and ferdinand. he and johnny evans were being groomed to take over vidic and ferdie. but then his old club barca came calling and fergie could not hang on to him.

now we have young stars jones, smalling and evans to vie for the central defensive roles to take over from vidic and ferdie. not too bad choices lah. ;)

Pique got the opportunities to play in first-11 while at Barca, so he could developed further. If he remained in Utd, if Vidic and Ferdinard are not injured then he has no chance to play. He will be 2nd fiddle to them.

Smalling and Jones are promising young chaps. As for Evans, I think he is still not that reliable during big games, more often making stupid mistakes and get himself sent off. But I can see he is improving.

For permanent replacements for Vidic-Ferdinand pairing, my take will be Smalling-Jones. :D

mr_missile
21-02-2012, 12:33 PM
Smalling and Jones are promising young chaps. As for Evans, I think he is still not that reliable during big games, more often making stupid mistakes and get himself sent off. But I can see he is improving.

For permanent replacements for Vidic-Ferdinand pairing, my take will be Smalling-Jones. :D

pique definitely used his chance at barca well. there are rumours that united are trying to lure him back to old trafford. but i personally think that this is very unlikely to happen.

evans is still improving. with vidic out for the season, he is given the chance to prove to saf he is capable of keeping the central defensive role.

i do agree with u that a smalling-jones partnership may be better. both are younger, tougher and more skilful on the ball. but jones may be groomed to be the next "captain marvel" aka robson. so maybe it will be a smalling-evans partnership.

don't be surprised if sir alex go out and buy an additional defender subotic from Borussia Dortmund at the end of the season though. :)

yinyang
23-02-2012, 12:36 PM
21 February 2012 Last updated at 13:55 GMT

Manchester United boosts revenues and cuts its debt

Manchester United says its revenues for the last six months of 2011 increased to £175m, as it released its latest financial figures.

It is an increase of £18.5m on the Old Trafford club's revenues for the same period last year.

The Premier League club said debt was £439m at the end of 2011, less than the £508m reported 12 months previously.

Last year, United said it would partially float on the Singapore Stock Exchange, but that has yet to happen.

The team, currently second to rivals Manchester City in the Premier League, are also competing in the Europa League.

Match day revenues (up from £52.4m to £54.5m), media revenue (up from £53.7m to £60.9m) and commercial revenue (up from £50.4m to £58.6m) were all ahead.

United were taken over by the Glazer family in 2005 and have had a rocky relationship with many of the fans since then over the level of debt at the club.

A buyback of bonds, sold as part of a £500m refinancing operation two years
ago, helped bring down the latest debt figures.

However, total operating costs - up from £96.9m to £110.8m - and net player capital expenditure - up from £11.7m to £47.9m - both rose.

The latter's rise was due to a summer outlay on players David de Gea, Ashley Young and Phil Jones, as manager Sir Alex Ferguson set about freshening up his team.

Other figures show a bank balance of £50.9m and a £10.4m rise in general capital expenditure, mainly due to upgrading hospitality areas.

Without the lucrative revenue streams garnered from competing in the Champions League, the club is expected to see a decline in income over the next half-year.

yinyang
23-02-2012, 12:38 PM
EUROPA LEAGUE - LAST 32
Venue: Old Trafford Date: Thursday, 23 February Kick-off: 2005 GMT
Coverage: BBC Sport website, BBC Radio 5 live

MATCH PREVIEW

Striker Wayne Rooney will miss Thursday's Europa League second leg tie with Ajax due to a throat infection.

Rooney turned up for Wednesday's training session with the club, but was sent home due to the illness.

United manager Sir Alex Ferguson said he was resting the 26-year-old in the hope he will be available for Sunday's Premier League game at Norwich.
Tom Cleverley is expected to be fit to play 90 minutes after recovering from an ankle injury.

"He has a really bad throat. There were traces of it in Amsterdam and we gave him some medication but it got worse," Ferguson said of Rooney.
"He has been in bed over the weekend and came in today for the first time and we are trying hard to get him right for Sunday."
United go into the game defending a two-goal goal lead over the Amsterdam club from the first leg.
But Ferguson, who watched his side blow a two-goal advantage against Basel at Old Trafford in their doomed Champions League campaign, has refused to take anything for granted.
He said: "The experience we had against Basel, where we were 2-0 up at half-time, that's in our memories.
"I don't think we'll be casual or careless about what we're trying to achieve tomorrow but it's a good lead. You can't dispute that."

talkanythingsg
23-02-2012, 04:43 PM
wow...din know so many MU expert here...
Glory Glory Man Utd....
and we going ..marching...on on on....
:)

shysaint
23-02-2012, 06:02 PM
Must come here often to check it out :)

Once a Devil always a Devil ...

mr_missile
24-02-2012, 12:38 AM
wow...din know so many MU expert here...
Glory Glory Man Utd....
and we going ..marching...on on on....
:)

Must come here often to check it out :)

Once a Devil always a Devil ...

welcome to the united thread bros! do feel free to contribute your comments. i won't say we are experts. but i dare say we are true united supporters.

glory glory man united! :)

shysaint
24-02-2012, 09:32 AM
Man Utd sneak through.

Ajax Amsterdam bravely fought back from a goal down to beat Manchester United 2-1 at Old Trafford but still went out of the Europa League, losing 3-2 on aggregate.

Javier Hernandez gave United the perfect start in the last-32 tie when he scored from an inch-perfect pass from strike-partner Dimitar Berbatov to give his side the lead after just six minutes.

But Ajax never looked like giving up and fought back in a pulsating end to end match. Aras Ozbiliz equalised just before half-time to give the Dutch side hope and the visitors maintained their momentum after the break.

Nani hit the bar for United before Ozbiliz turned provider for Ajax defender Toby Alderweireld with three minutes left to play. One more goal would have made it 3-3 on aggregate and sent the Dutch side through on away goals, but United held on.

Ajax became the first Dutch side to win at Old Trafford but United go through and will play Spanish side Athletic Bilbao in the last 16.

Europa League draw : Games to be played on March 8 and 15.

Metalist Kharkiv v Olympiakos

Sporting Lisbon v Manchester City

FC Twente v Schalke

Standard Liege v Hannover

Valencia v PSV Eindhoven

AZ Alkmaar v Udinese

Atletico Madrid v Besiktas

Manchester United v Athletic Bilbao

badboynani17
24-02-2012, 09:54 AM
Chicharito was sharp and effective in the 1st half and his early 6-min goal said it all! But he was poor in the 2nd half, made quite a handful of mistakes and losing possession unnecessarily. Paul Scholes also made a blunt tackle, rsulting in the 2nd goal from a set-piece.

Other than the assist for Chicharito to score the home side's opening goal, Berbatov was disappointing. He lacked the pace and not really a threat to the Ajax back 4. You see the difference when Welbeck came on, the attack was fast and furious... I just feel that Berbatov does not fit into the system anymore. Rather sad, given his talent and wizardy capabilities...

I wonder y Ashley young played so deep in our own half while Fabio was more often the one speeding up to join the attack. New tactic by SAF???

What you guys think? :)

shysaint
24-02-2012, 10:21 AM
What you guys think? :)

There are always many factors resulting the team performance :

1. Complacency
2. Team Composition for the match for the day
3. Opponent
4. Attitude of the Team plus Opponent as well
5. Players attributes
6. Injuires before and after

Good Example is Barcelona, Players remains the same BUT now lagginf behind Real Madrid by 10 pts ....

Like recent Man Utd vs Liverpool, after 2-0 up, performance drops big time, Luckily Liverpool did not manage to make a come back else it would be a big disappointment.

I cannot deny as fans, we would love to see our team plays good football, BUT then a win is still a win ... hopefully we make it better the next time round.

I just leant a quote:

We are as good as the next event, therefore Man Utd will be as good as the next game if it wins.

Glory Glory Man Utd ....

yinyang
24-02-2012, 02:31 PM
always many factors resulting the team performance :
1. Complacency
2. Team Composition for the match for the day
I cannot deny as fans, we would love to see our team plays good football, BUT then a win is still a win ... hopefully we make it better the next time round.
We are as good as the next event, therefore Man Utd will be as good as the next game if it wins.....
Couldn't have said it better:D Just on this morning's match, cannot take pride in reversal of our fortunes at ToT (Theatre of Dreams) -but for Berbi's exquisite moves resulting in 1st goal.

Your logic's also applys to Ajax's win vs last week's loss;)

yinyang
27-02-2012, 12:37 AM
Old is gold, 2 old boys did great (but scholsey undid his goal by giving it away). Orgasmic left footed goal by gigsy in dying minutes:p

alex18122003
27-02-2012, 02:51 AM
Norwich City 1 United 2
United's title bid was dramatically put back on track by Ryan Giggs' late winner in stoppage time at Carrow Road.

Paul Scholes had threatened to steal the headlines from Giggs on the Welshman's 900th appearance by heading home an early opener that, for so long, looked like being the only goal of the match. Norwich were not killed off and, instead, maintained a foothold in the game when Grant Holt equalised with only seven minutes remaining.

But Giggs had the final say in the dying seconds when tucking home an Ashley Young cross to cap a remarkable spell of pressure after Danny Welbeck looked to have twice passed up the opportunity to take the points.

Giggs flicked over from a Phil Jones cross with six minutes gone and, while that would have been a fairytale start, a goal was still forthcoming a minute later. A steady build-up did not appear to carry too much threat but there was a real sting in the tail when Nani whipped in a teasing cross from the right. Javier Hernandez and Welbeck were unable to get a touch but Scholes arrived on cue to give his nod of approval to the inviting centre.

A splendid move almost brought a second on 16 minutes when Nani and Hernandez ferried the ball to Welbeck but the striker's goalbound shot was expertly tipped away by Ruddy's fingertips with the keeper at full stretch. But Norwich retaliated, with David De Gea matching Ruddy's excellence with a vital block with his right boot to deny Anthony Pilkington,who beat Patrice Evra to advance onto a fine pass by Kyle Naughton.

Hernandez was unable to get any power on his shot after receiving a pass from Welbeck, with Ruddy saving comfortably, but De Gea was arguably busier than his opposite number in the first half. Pilkington's cross was met by a deft header by Holt but the Spanish keeper was equal to it, not only reaching the effort but clutching it safely.

United were not in top gear throughout the opening 45 minutes but looked dangerous when knitting moves together as Scholes and Michael Carrick tried to get a grip in midfield. After the restart, the Reds asserted more control but there were few chances created.

Bradley Johnson drilled wide following a stray pass out of defence by Evra and Andrew Surman had a volley blocked but the champions' defence looked comfortable. United burst into life with another lovely move as Welbeck played a one-two with Giggs but his lob past Ruddy did not carry enough pace on it and Zak Whitbread was able to clear.

De Gea had to be alert to make a spectacular diving catch to cut out a Pilkington centre but Sir Alex's side conjured up another moment of inspiration when Phil Jones' cross was volleyed against the bar by Giggs, who was so close to marking his special day with a goal.

Nevertheless, the Canaries remained in the game and, after a hopeful penalty shout against Scholes, Holt headed off target when left unmarked inside the area. Evra then blocked a Wes Hoolahan cross at point-blank range and escaped more penalty appeals from the home upporters.

It then took a superb save from De Gea, who pushed away an Aaron Wilbraham drive after the substitute was gifted possession by a rare sloppy pass by Scholes, to keep United level but an equaliser had been on the cards when, seconds later, Holt was allowed to turn despite the close attention of three defenders and lash home after Whitbread's header fell to him.

You could almost hear the cheers from the blue half of Manchester. However, the champions mustered a spirited response with Carrick finding plenty of space and opting to pass to Young, whose shot was blocked by Naughton, before Welbeck was guilty of a bad miss when Giggs picked him out, failing to get a touch with his intended header.

Welbeck could only fire against Ruddy's legs during a frantic finale and Elliot Ward almost put through his own net. But Norwich's resistance was ended when Young provided a telling cross and Giggs was in the right place at the right time to make it a dream day for the veteran midfielder.

mr_missile
27-02-2012, 08:38 AM
Norwich City 1 United 2

United's title bid was dramatically put back on track by Ryan Giggs' late winner in stoppage time at Carrow Road.

Paul Scholes had threatened to steal the headlines from Giggs on the Welshman's 900th appearance by heading home an early opener that, for so long, looked like being the only goal of the match.


i had my heart in my mouth when giggs slotted home the late winner. what a game!

next week, spurs at white hart lane! :)

am secretly glad that both rooney and cleverly will be missing the mid-week friendly between england and holland. more time for them to rest and prepare for the spurs game. spurs will surely come out fighting after the mauling they got from the gunners last night.

omnia
28-02-2012, 01:56 PM
curious to get united fans' views on fergie's latest comments after the norwich game...

"Giggsy and Scholesy are the best players this club have ever had"...

better than charlton, best, law, edwards, cantona, keane, beckham, ronaldo etc?...

mr_missile
28-02-2012, 03:54 PM
curious to get united fans' views on fergie's latest comments after the norwich game...

"Giggsy and Scholesy are the best players this club have ever had"...

better than charlton, best, law, edwards, cantona, keane, beckham, ronaldo etc?...

did saf really say that? i must have missed that comment.

i started supporting the club from the late eighties (oh yes, i am THAT old ok? :D), i shall therefore not comment on players like edwards, charlton, best and law who were from another era altogether.

just to name some great players who donned the united shirt from the late 80s to present : hughes, robson, bruce, schmeichel, van nilsterooy, solskjaer, keane, beckham, ronaldo, rooney, and of cos cantona (see my avatar)...... cantona is most special to me. only becos i believe he was the final piece of jigsaw that united needed for the one final push to win the league.

after the 1st win inspired by cantona in 1993, the rest is history. so for me, it is undoubtably king eric.

scholes and giggs....they have my utmost respect for their service and faithfulness to the club. :)

yinyang
28-02-2012, 05:59 PM
of cos cantona (see my avatar)...... cantona is most special to me. after the 1st win inspired by cantona in 1993,.. undoubtably king eric.
scholes and giggs....they have my utmost respect for their service and faithfulness to the club. :)
Think Fergie's comments must be taken in context (after escape in Norwich), not meant to be 'end all' kind of judging or competition in MU illustrious history. Diff era, diff players (as you say too).

Yo, King Cantona's my all time favourite. Playmaker, he can take the collar of an uninspiring game and win for us. :p

omnia
28-02-2012, 11:10 PM
if u r old then i am ancient as i hv seen charlton, best, law n kidd play:D...but not fossilised enuff to hv seen the famous busby babes like edwards n violet:p...

fm a pure football aspect...i can honestly say that i hv yet to see a red devil as good as best...i think ronaldo comes close though...followed by giggs n law...

fm a team playmaker aspect...i wld say charlton, robson, cantona n keane r pretty much all even...

did saf really say that? i must have missed that comment.

i started supporting the club from the late eighties (oh yes, i am THAT old ok? :D), i shall therefore not comment on players like edwards, charlton, best and law who were from another era altogether.

just to name some great players who donned the united shirt from the late 80s to present : hughes, robson, bruce, schmeichel, van nilsterooy, solskjaer, keane, beckham, ronaldo, rooney, and of cos cantona (see my avatar)...... cantona is most special to me. only becos i believe he was the final piece of jigsaw that united needed for the one final push to win the league.

after the 1st win inspired by cantona in 1993, the rest is history. so for me, it is undoubtably king eric.

scholes and giggs....they have my utmost respect for their service and faithfulness to the club.

shark89
29-02-2012, 03:20 PM
curious to get united fans' views on fergie's latest comments after the norwich game...

"Giggsy and Scholesy are the best players this club have ever had"...



My all time United great is Giggs, extra curricular activities outside the football field aside :D.

Who can forget his one man slalom against Arsenal in the FA Cup semi-final of the treble winning year 1999?

United were down to 10 men. Schmeichel had saved a penalty from Bergkamp. Late in the 2nd half of extra time, Giggs got the ball in United's own half, nutmegged Viera, then shashayed his way to the Arsenal penalty box, looked up, and shot the ball into the roof of the net.
What a goal! It was at that moment that I seriously thought that maybe, just maybe, that United could really go for the treble.

More than 10 years down the road and Giggs is still scoring these vital goals for us. For me, it has to be Giggs lah.

shysaint
29-02-2012, 03:25 PM
curious to get united fans' views on fergie's latest comments after the norwich game...

"Giggsy and Scholesy are the best players this club have ever had"...

better than charlton, best, law, edwards, cantona, keane, beckham, ronaldo etc?...

To me All are great players ... they work hard and well as individual and gel well as a Team ...

I can only say that so far, the only player that got the " X-Factor " will be Eric Cantona ...

omnia
29-02-2012, 08:37 PM
wif due respect i think u r too young to remember best...but i do agree that giggs is up there almost wif best...although i think ronaldo is a wee bit better than giggs...
My all time United great is Giggs, extra curricular activities outside the football field aside :D.

Who can forget his one man slalom against Arsenal in the FA Cup semi-final of the treble winning year 1999?

United were down to 10 men. Schmeichel had saved a penalty from Bergkamp. Late in the 2nd half of extra time, Giggs got the ball in United's own half, nutmegged Viera, then shashayed his way to the Arsenal penalty box, looked up, and shot the ball into the roof of the net.
What a goal! It was at that moment that I seriously thought that maybe, just maybe, that United could really go for the treble.

More than 10 years down the road and Giggs is still scoring these vital goals for us. For me, it has to be Giggs lah.

mr_missile
01-03-2012, 08:19 AM
if u r old then i am ancient as i hv seen charlton, best, law n kidd play:D...but not fossilised enuff to hv seen the famous busby babes like edwards n violet:p...

fm a pure football aspect...i can honestly say that i hv yet to see a red devil as good as best...i think ronaldo comes close though...followed by giggs n law...

fm a team playmaker aspect...i wld say charlton, robson, cantona n keane r pretty much all even...

hat's off to u bro to have watched charlton, best, law and kidd play. i could only watch the videos of them. u ancient? haha. as the old chinese saying goes, "the older the ginger, the hotter they get"! :D

what about your Pool players? who, in your opinion, is the best? any one player that you can single out from the long list (please do add in any that i am sure i have missed out) of say, keegan, rush, dalglish, hansen, neal, kennedy, barnes, fowler, macmahon, aldridge, gerrard, carragher, souness, alonso, torres, and do i dare suggest owen? :D

omnia
01-03-2012, 06:20 PM
actually use to like the lesser well known players like steve heighway, jimmy case, terry mcdermott, ray kennedy, ian callaghan etc...also had a soft spot for emlyn hughes, kevin keegan, john barnes, alan hansen n graeme souness...but my all time fav has to be kenny dalglish...best no#7 red ever...

but to be honest based on pure football skill i dont think any reds player past r present cld match george best at his best...best is up their wif the greats like pele, maradona n cruyff...

hat's off to u bro to have watched charlton, best, law and kidd play. i could only watch the videos of them. u ancient? haha. as the old chinese saying goes, "the older the ginger, the hotter they get"! :D

what about your Pool players? who, in your opinion, is the best? any one player that you can single out from the long list (please do add in any that i am sure i have missed out) of say, keegan, rush, dalglish, hansen, neal, kennedy, barnes, fowler, macmahon, aldridge, gerrard, carragher, souness, alonso, torres, and do i dare suggest owen? :D

mr_missile
05-03-2012, 07:57 AM
Young helps United to Lane win

Ashley Young scored twice as Manchester United won 3-1 at Tottenham to move back to within two points of Manchester City in the Premier League.

Tottenham dominated large parts of the game but were lacking in creativity whereas United, when given the opportunities, were simply devastating.

Spurs thought they had taken the lead when Louis Saha's shot flew in off Emmanuel Adebayor but referee Martin Atkinson ruled it out for a handball and from then on, the visitors put the home side to the sword with a display that showed exactly why they are firmly in the hunt for their 20th league title.

Wayne Rooney rose to nod home a Young corner on the stroke of half-time and the former Aston Villa man then went on to add two in the second half - the first an acrobatic scissor kick, and the second a superb curling effort from 30 yards.

Jermain Defoe pulled a goal back three minutes from time but it was too little, too late, with Spurs now 13 points behind City and surely out of the Premier League title race once and for all.

The defeat - their first at home since Manchester City thumped them 5-1 in August - leaves them only four points ahead of Arsenal ahead of a tough run of fixtures.

This fixture has brought about many classics in the past, but this game started off slowly on a soggy afternoon in north London.

The absence of the suspended Scott Parker, injury victim Rafael van der Vaart and the ill Gareth Bale hit Spurs, although Sandro and youngster Jake Livermore did their best to deal with the imposing United midfield.

The visitors dominated the opening 15 minutes with Paul Scholes giving a master class in dictating the play in the middle of the park.

The Red Devils failed to fathom any chances, though, and Spurs soon started to take a grip on proceedings.

Aaron Lennon, recalled to the starting line-up after missing the past six games, rushed forward after cutting in from the flank before Jonny Evans put in a crucial block.

David De Gea then nervously palmed away a shot from Adebayor, who burst forward after picking up Sandro's pass.

The crowd sensed a goal and Lennon continued to cause havoc down the right, whipping over a ball that ricocheted about the box. Tottenham suspected the ball had hit a United hand but Atkinson shook his head.

Younes Kaboul then fired a bullet of a free-kick that went just wide before Rooney ventured forward only at the other end only to be cut out by Ledley King.

Spurs poured forward looking for an opener and they thought they had it in the bag in the 38th minute.

Lennon snuck in to the box and Saha turned his cross straight at Adebayor, who backheeled the ball into the net. However, he controlled the ball with his arm, albeit it appeared unintentionally, and Atkinson disallowed the goal.

The home contingent in the sell-out crowd vented their fury at the referee and their despair deepened on the stroke of half-time as United took the lead.

Sandro saw yellow for a late tackle on Young and the resulting free-kick saw Spurs concede a corner which Young swung in for Rooney to head home with Brad Friedel well beaten.

Spurs came out for the second half fired up, Livermore stinging De Gea's palms with a fierce drive before Kaboul headed narrowly wide.

Benoit Assou-Ekotto skimmed the top of the bar with a wicked curling free-kick as Tottenham upped the pressure but the home crowd were stunned in to silence on the hour as United added a second.

The Spurs defence switched off at a throw-in, allowing Nani to skip in to the box and fire a cross that ricocheted in to the path of Young, who adjusted his body to fire in a fine scissor kick.

Ferguson immediately brought on Ryan Giggs for Scholes and the travelling supporters mocked the home side by chanting "Harry for England".

United were starting to play some sublime football and their third came in the 68th minute in spectacular style.

Tottenham's defence backed off Young and he made them pay by unleashing a brilliant 30-yard strike that flew in over an outstretched Friedel.

More taunts came from the away fans as United threatened to go on the rampage.

Harry Redknapp brought on Niko Kranjcar, Danny Rose and Defoe to freshen things up and the move paid dividends to a minor extent when Defoe pulled back a consolation.

The former West Ham man picked up a wayward ball and advanced towards the United back line before belting home a 25-yard drive.

Spurs continued to push forward but two more goals in the three added minutes was too tall an order and United walked away with all three points.

shysaint
05-03-2012, 09:41 AM
Tottenham 1 United 3

United emphatically cleared a major hurdle in the race for the Barclays Premier League title, posting a priceless victory over Tottenham at White Hart Lane to move within two points of the top of the table.

Wayne Rooney's header in first-half injury-time followed a half of dominance for the hosts, while Ashley Young's brace of brilliant finishes added an almost surreal layer of gloss to the scoreline for Sir Alex Ferguson's champions.

Tottenham were dealt a disservice by the full-time deficit, having bossed matters for the first hour of the game, but found themselves thwarted by a dogged display of resilience from David De Gea and his excellent defence.

Harry Redknapp will also point to a moment of controversy in the first period when Emmanuel Adebayor had a goal contentiously ruled out for handball, but his side were gradually worn down by United's clinical finishing and improved passing in the second half, and had only Jermain Defoe's late consolation goal to show for their considerable efforts.

The Reds welcomed back Rooney after a throat infection, but were without Chris Smalling, the victim of a head injury during England's midweek defeat to Holland. The hosts, meanwhile, were bereft of Gareth Bale (virus), Rafael van der Vaart (ankle) and Scott Parker, who served a one-match ban after picking up a pair of bookings in last weekend's defeat at Arsenal.

Nevertheless, both sides lined up with attacking formations, each spearheaded by two strikers. In the opening exchanges, each of the quartet chanced their arm in alternation. After Louis Saha's scuffed effort dribbled straight at De Gea, Danny Welbeck capped a surging run by blazing over from just outside the area, before Emmanuel Adebayor blasted a 25-yard effort over for the hosts.

The game's first effort of note was executed by Rooney, who curled a powerful effort into Brad Friedel's midriff after impressive approach play from Nani down the right flank. For all the attacking intent on show, however, the first 15 minutes of the game were bitty, with both sides guilty of sloppy distribution.

De Gea produced one such errant pass to inadvertantly forge Tottenham's first glaring opening, but the Spaniard atoned by dropping to his left and parrying away Adebayor's low, curling effort after he had been allowed to advance to the edge of the United area.

As the game's flow coagulated under heavy pressing from both sides, set pieces grew in significance. Spurs were given a free-kick from 25 yards, only for Youne Kaboul to drill just off-target, via a slight deflection, before Rooney hooked a low corner from Young goal-wards, but straight at Friedel. The deadlock remained in-tact, but wavered in an almighty scare for the Reds.

Aaron Lennon, hitherto well-shackled by Patrice Evra on the hosts' right flank, switched sides and motored past Phil Jones. His pull-back was well turned away by De Gea, but Saha's follow-up struck Adebayor on the chest and then the arm and, though the Togolese striker flicked home a finish, referee Martin Atkinson promptly halted play for handball.

The home support loudly bemoaned the decision, which could easily have gone unpunished, and their ire was only heightened when the champions moved into the lead in injury-time. Having been so disjointed in open play, it was fitting that a set-piece yielded reward, as Rooney escaped Kyle Walker to emphatically head home Young's wickedly-dipping corner.

Suitably stung by the unjust nature of their deficit, Spurs began the second period on the front foot. They would have drawn level soon after the restart, but for heroics from both De Gea and Jonny Evans; the Spaniard to instinctively block Jake Livermore's 20-yard effort which deflected off Saha, and the Northern Irishman for subsequently slashing the ball away from a packed goalmouth.

Benoit Assou-Ekotto then curled a 25-yard free-kick against the top of De Gea's crossbar as the hosts continued to boss matters. Yet, despite creaking under pressure at times, United's lead was doubled on the hour-mark - and again it came from alertness at a set-piece.

Jones' quick throw-in found Nani on the Tottenham byline, lurking behind Luka Modric. The Portuguese's cross was turned away from the goal-line by Walker, but Young dealt with the looping ball by brilliantly arrowing a volley inside the far post. Under the kosh but two goals up, Sir Alex Ferguson introduced Ryan Giggs for Scholes.

The Welshman was heavily involved as, incredibly, the Reds moved three goals clear eight minutes later. A sustained spell of passing and possession culminated in Evra slipping the ball to Young, who advanced on goal and exploited Kaboul's reluctance to meet him by curling a stunning, 25-yard effort high into Friedel's top corner.

For once, there would be no late drama; instead a 20-minute spell of dominant possession for the champions. One errant pass from Giggs gave Defoe the opportunity to advance on goal and thump a low, 25-yard effort past an unsighted De Gea, but United otherwise ran down the clock safe in the knowledge that, with 11 league games remaining and the home straight in sight, there will be few greater hurdles to clear.

Extracted from Manutd.com

66cccc66
05-03-2012, 10:37 AM
well done MU.
look like the match on April 30 against City,will be the decider.

shysaint
05-03-2012, 11:43 AM
well done MU.
look like the match on April 30 against City,will be the decider.

Hope Arsenal will do us a favor by beating them first ....

shark89
05-03-2012, 12:40 PM
A good weekend indeed!

Started with the Gunners beating Pool to really wreck the hope of them finishing 4th. Let them continue to celebrate winning the mickey mouse cup! Leave the Champions League to the big clubs. :D Good job RVP!

And last night's win at Spurs despite being outplayed especially in the 1st 40mins. A very good weekend indeed!

mr_missile
06-03-2012, 08:32 AM
...but my all time fav has to be kenny dalglish...best no#7 red ever...



ahhh.....the no.7. so happens my united great also wore no.7! king eric! :D

mr_missile
06-03-2012, 08:35 AM
Hope Arsenal will do us a favor by beating them first ....

bro, when is the game between city and the gunners? at the etihad or the emirates stadium?

man, the names of these stadiums nowadays. give me old trafford anytime! :D

shysaint
06-03-2012, 09:12 AM
bro, when is the game between city and the gunners? at the etihad or the emirates stadium?

man, the names of these stadiums nowadays. give me old trafford anytime! :D

20 Mar : Man City vs Chelsea ( Looks like its a goner for Chelsea unless ... )

08 Apr : Ars vs Man City @ Emirates Stadium

30 Apr " Man City vs Man Utd

That's all the Big Match Available for Chelsea .. rest should not be a Hurdle to them ...


Glory Glory Man Utd ...

yinyang
06-03-2012, 10:51 AM
08 Apr : Ars vs Man City @ Emirates Stadium
30 Apr " Man City vs Man Utd ...
C'mon Van Pussy!:p

badboynani17
06-03-2012, 11:08 AM
City will drop points, definitely. Utd will switch to the highest gear and overtake these assh!@es!! Glory Glory Man Utd! :D

mr_missile
06-03-2012, 12:42 PM
20 Mar : Man City vs Chelsea ( Looks like its a goner for Chelsea unless ... )

08 Apr : Ars vs Man City @ Emirates Stadium

30 Apr " Man City vs Man Utd

That's all the Big Match Available for Chelsea .. rest should not be a Hurdle to them ...

Glory Glory Man Utd ...

the 20 mar game may not be a goner yet bro. with avb gone, the chelski players may just wake up and start playing for the 4th champ league spot! hope for a draw game here.


C'mon Van Pussy!:p

ooohh! that's a good one there bro! hahaha!

this rvp is really a mean scoring machine. he could be giving his best to the gunners now knowing that next season he could well be playing elsewhere.


City will drop points, definitely. Utd will switch to the highest gear and overtake these assh!@es!! Glory Glory Man Utd! :D

let's hope by the time united meet city on 30 Apr, it will be united who are clear on top. :)

mr_missile
08-03-2012, 07:53 AM
Fergie wants Euro improvement

Sir Alex Ferguson wants his Manchester United players to "waken" from their slumbers against Athletic Bilbao to protect their European status.

For so many years United have used their form at Old Trafford as the basis to launch deep inroads into the Champions League. This term has been very different, however.

Ferguson accepts his side never recovered from tossing away a two-goal lead against Swiss outfit FC Basel on matchday two, a further home draw with Benfica helping to condemn them to a group stage exit for the first time since 2005.

But United have found it no easier in the Europa League, where they almost contrived to get knocked out despite at one stage boasting a three-goal aggregate lead to Ajax.

The Red Devils chief accepts if his side want to prolong their stay in the competition, they must do better, especially as they are now facing a team that is fifth in La Liga and have booked a Copa del Rey final encounter with Barcelona in addition to their conquests on the European front.

"It is a game in which we need to waken up," said Ferguson.

"Some of our European form this season has been disappointing. I don't know whether we are making too many changes.

"Obviously I will be playing a strong team tomorrow and hopefully that makes a difference because it is going to be a very difficult game."

Domestically, Sunday's win at Tottenham was United's 10th on the road this term, twice the number they managed in the whole of last season, and leaves them just two points adrift of City having completed their most testing run of fixtures.

"It is going to be an exciting time for the club," said Ferguson.

"We had a fantastic result on Sunday. Hopefully that gives us the impetus to have a real go at this league."

It is why Ferguson is so glad Tom Cleverley has recovered from an ankle injury that has sidelined him for a fortnight and Anderson is in line to make his first start for four months after finally shrugging off a knee injury from which it appears he tried to come back too soon.

"Anderson was a substitute on Sunday and he is back, fit and training very well," said Ferguson.

"He will be involved. It is good to get a player of that quality back for the run-in."

Ferguson confirmed keeper Anders Lindegaard could be ready to resume football training in a fortnight whilst Antonio Valencia, who strained a hamstring in the first leg against Ajax three weeks ago, should be pushing for a return from the beginning of next week.

He might be needed too because evidently Athletic are a strong team.

"They press the ball very well and are not afraid to flood players forward," said Ferguson.

"They are very positive and have a particularly dangerous centre-forward in Fernando Llorente. He is a great header of the ball and his goalscoring record is very good.

"They have very strong self-belief and that is something we have to be prepared for."

Nevertheless, it seems unlikely to produce the 11 goals over two legs which the only previous competitive encounter between the pair served up in 1957.

On that occasion United emerged triumphant thanks to a 3-0 second leg win at Maine Road.

Ferguson freely admits he would accept a third of that number on Thursday.

"I will accept 1-0 tomorrow rather than 2-1 or 3-2 without question," he said.

shysaint
08-03-2012, 08:51 AM
Boss issues wake-up call!

Sir Alex has urged United to "wake up" in European football this season ahead of the Old Trafford encounter with Athletic Club.

The Reds face the side from Bilbao in the Round of 16 in the Europa League, looking to improve on the home showing against Ajax as the Amsterdammers won on the night but lost 3-2 on aggregate.

"It's a very difficult tie," stated the boss. "All the work Bilbao have done has been very impressive. They're a very progressive team in Spain at the moment and it's going to be very difficult for us. We need to waken up, there's not question about that. Some of our European form has been disapppointing.

"But it's an opportunity to progress and we want to take that opportunity, although it's going to need a very good performance."

The manager was honest enough to reflect on the Champions League exit and wonder what may have been the problem, after doing so well to reach three finals in four years.

"I don't know if it's because we're making too many changes in these games," he pondered. "Certainly against Ajax in the second leg we did that. We also made mistakes in the group stages. It's our own fault. The Basel game will always be remembered for the carelessness of our performance.

"We were a bit unlucky against Benfica at home but, at that point, we needed to beat them. It was a disappointment but tomorrow I'm playing a strong team and I hope that makes a difference."

Extract from Manutd.com

mr_missile
10-03-2012, 07:52 AM
Home help on Ferguson's mind

Sir Alex Ferguson admits Manchester United's slack European performances will force him to reassess how to approach games at Old Trafford.

Normally so solid on home soil, United have endured a disastrous campaign.

They only managed to win one of their three home matches in the Champions League and despite dropping into UEFA's secondary competition, the Red Devils have been even worse after the winter break.

Thursday night's defeat to Athletic Bilbao was their second in succession after they almost tossed away a three-goal aggregate advantage against Ajax in the last round.

Even before the game Gary Neville was declaring it was one of those years where United were taking a step back in order for their youngsters to move forward.

And after Thursday night's 3-2 reverse, Ferguson feels a change in attitude is now required.

"We have had a bad year in Europe," he said.

"We conceded three against Basel, two against Benfica, another three against Bilbao and two to Ajax. That tells its own story.

"Maybe it is just one of those years where we are having to restock and assess how we should approach games at home."

Ferguson conceded that without a man-of-the-match display from young goalkeeper David de Gea, the damage could have been even worse.

It was probably the reason why he didn't spend too long dwelling on that fact his team were the victims of an offside goal for Athletic's second, and half his team were arguing at the concession of a bizarre free-kick when the Basque outfit shot down the other end of the field to grab their third.

Far more responsible was Rafael's failure to react after De Gea had denied Oscar de Marcos, allowing Iker Muniain to belt the rebound into an empty net.

It was the low point of a sub-standard defensive display from the hosts, more in keeping with their early season performances which culminated in the horrendous 6-1 derby-day loss to Manchester City.

"There has been that slackness all season," said Ferguson, a view endorsed by midfielder Michael Carrick.

"We have been giving the opposition too many chances, which tells a tale," said Carrick.

"That is not just putting the blame on the defence, it is the team as a unit. We have to defend right altogether. That hasn't been the case."

The strange thing is that the European nightmares have come in the midst of some excellent form on the domestic front.

Since that near fatal wobble against Ajax, United have won at Norwich and Tottenham. Before facing the Dutch giants they saw off Liverpool and came from three goals down to grab a point at Chelsea.

Now they must recover in time to tackle in-form West Brom at Old Trafford on Sunday.

"We are desperate to win the league again and Sunday is the next game," said Carrick.

"It is massive, as they all are, and we will be ready for it."

Chris Smalling is United's main doubt, although with Rio Ferdinand due back anyway, the blow would not be too severe should the England defender not report for duty after the stitches in a head wound originally suffered playing for England reopened.

In theory, United are now embarking on a run of easier fixtures after the tougher tasks just completed.

But Carrick has been around too long to be duped by such talk, especially as West Brom were the only side to leave Old Trafford with any points last term.

"We are satisfied with the situation we are in," said Carrick.

"But just because we have come through a tough two months doesn't mean we will sail through the next two nicely.

"We are not getting carried away and we are not taking anything for granted.

"We know how quickly it can come back and bite us."

machoman
12-03-2012, 12:57 AM
Rooney brace sends Man Utd top of the pile

Monday, March 12

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Manchester United shrugged off the disappointment of the Europa League defeat in midweek to easily collect the three points against ten-men West Bromwich Albion, with a 2-0 success at Old Trafford.

West Brom have never beaten United in the Premier League and once Jonas Olsson saw red for a second bookable offence, with the visitor’s already trailing to a Wayne Rooney strike, that record looked set to continue.

The Red Devils have now won seven of their last eight league games and rarely looked in trouble during this encounter were they dominated for long periods.

The breakthrough for Sir Alex Ferguson’s men came on the stroke of half-time when Javier Hernandez ended a mazy run with a perfect cross for Rooney to finish with the simplest of conversions.

The one moment of alarm for the home side came just after the break when Albion had a good shout for a penalty turned down as Patrice Evra brought down Peter Odemwingie, but the officials were unimpressed.

Shortly after and West Brom were reduced to ten men as Olsson clattered Hernandez for a second yellow card.

United wasted no time in making their numerical advantage count and after Keith Andrews fouled Ashley Young inside the penalty area, Rooney steeped to send former United keeper Ben Foster the wrong way to clinch a critical victory in the light of leaders Manchester City going down at Swansea.

Albion’s run of three successive league wins came to an end, but more importantly United leapfrogged City at the summit of the Premiership to lead by one point with ten games remaining.

Referee: Lee Probert

Venue: Old Trafford

Attendance: 75,598

Man Utd scorers: Rooney 35, 71 West Brom scorers:

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guccirush
12-03-2012, 01:08 AM
Back in August, a comprehensive 4-0 home victory over Swansea got Manchester City's Premier League title challenge off to a flying start. Eight months later, the same opponents have got their revenge and applied the brakes to Roberto Mancini's men - big time.

An 83rd minute Luke Moore header proved enough for the Swans to earn a shock victory over City, just as Manchester United were polishing off a comfortable 2-0 win over West Brom to go top of the Premier League table by a single point with ten matches to play.

City have led, and led fairly comfortably, for some time. But faltering at this stage of the season is not indicative of champions, especially when dealing with an adversary as relentless and experienced as United.

Sir Alex Ferguson and many of his players have been here many times before. The same cannot be said for Roberto Mancini or his expensively-assembled squad, and questions will now be asked as to whether they possess the substance to back up the style and become winners.

With ten matches to play and 30 more points still up for grabs, United's current lead is far from unassailable. But bearing in mind their pedigree at this level, Mancini will be rightly worried to concede the initiative at such a crucial stage of the season.

HAVE YOUR SAY

Will Manchester United previal?

alex18122003
12-03-2012, 02:17 AM
Glory Glory Man Utd

mr_missile
12-03-2012, 07:33 AM
top of the league now but not getting carried away with 10 more "cup finals" to go.

the injuries are clearing up leaving long-term injury players vidic and fletcher still out till the next season. but more importantly, cleverly, anderson, smalling and even valencia are back or will be back to first team action very soon.

as saf questioned earlier this week, "will city blink first?"

just hope that city's defeat to swansea last night is one of their many blinks to come. :D

glory glory man united! and the reds go marching on on on!

Gennaro_
12-03-2012, 10:32 AM
Bro machoman,

lurve your signature, i wonder what's going through his mind?

:D

shysaint
12-03-2012, 12:08 PM
We Are Back !!! We Are Back !!!

We Are Back on Top of the League Table :cool:

badboynani17
12-03-2012, 12:51 PM
top of the league now but not getting carried away with 10 more "cup finals" to go.

the injuries are clearing up leaving long-term injury players vidic and fletcher still out till the next season. but more importantly, cleverly, anderson, smalling and even valencia are back or will be back to first team action very soon.

as saf questioned earlier this week, "will city blink first?"

just hope that city's defeat to swansea last night is one of their many blinks to come. :D

glory glory man united! and the reds go marching on on on!

Well said bro... Man Utd cannot be complacent cos' any slips in the next 10 matches can be disastous. I think this 1-0 defeat for City is a wake up call for them. They will likely to start their engine and go full throttle. So the red devils will feel the pressure, this time from the 2nd placed bitter rival.

It was a joyous moment for all Man Utd fans. Feels so good to be on top of the league table again.... phew! :D

guccirush
13-03-2012, 12:54 AM
City has a much tougher fixture. Hopefully by the derby clash, we will be at least 4 points ahead.

mr_missile
13-03-2012, 12:49 PM
20 Mar : Man City vs Chelsea ( Looks like its a goner for Chelsea unless ... )

08 Apr : Ars vs Man City @ Emirates Stadium

30 Apr " Man City vs Man Utd

Glory Glory Man Utd ...

City has a much tougher fixture. Hopefully by the derby clash, we will be at least 4 points ahead.

on paper, city has a tougher fixture going into the clash with united on 30 apr.

hopefully chelski can take some points off city as they too are fighting for the champ league spot.

the gunners are on song at the moment. they are gunning for 3rd spot now that they are only a point behind spurs.

so hopefully united will keep winning and city keep "blinking" as we march towards the premiership title! :D

mr_missile
15-03-2012, 07:39 AM
Berbatov set for United exit

Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed Manchester United's record signing Dimitar Berbatov is set to leave Old Trafford in the summer.

The £30.75million forward has found first-team places difficult to come by since being left out of the United squad for last season's Champions League final defeat to Barcelona.

And, on the eve of a last-16 Europa League second leg tie with Athletic Bilbao, Ferguson confirmed the Bulgarian is set to leave in the summer.

"His concern is not getting first-team football," said Ferguson.

"At 31, he is looking at first-team football.

"It is difficult for me to guarantee that so it could lead to him looking elsewhere."

Berbatov's contract is due to expire in the summer. However, rather than let the former Tottenham man leave for nothing at the end of the season, they will trigger a one-way clause to extend the deal for a further year.

That would mean United would get a fee for the player, who was linked with former club Bayer Leverkusen during the January transfer window.

However, the Red Devils hierarchy know they would get nothing like the mammoth sum they paid for the striker, whom Ferguson had such high hopes for when he arrived but has never quite managed to fulfil them, despite ending last season as the joint Golden Boot winner.

"We will be taking up the option on his contract but, having had chats with him, I understand he wants to get first-team football," said Ferguson.

"It is something we need to consider at the end of the season. For a player of his age and his ability it is disappointing for him that he is not getting first-team football.

"We will look at the end of the season but until then, he remains at United."

Ferguson confirmed Berbatov is again set to miss out tomorrow as United look to overturn a 3-2 deficit from last week's home encounter.

"He could play tomorrow but I have good options in terms of front players with Javier Hernandez, Danny Welbeck and Wayne Rooney," said Ferguson.

badboynani17
16-03-2012, 10:54 PM
I feel really sad for Berbatov. He is a genius with great control and vision as a footballer. But he only lacks one thing; not speed but opportunities by SAF. He is often kept warming the bench this entire season and I feel unjust for him. He was the top scorer for last season, why shouldnt he start more games this season? I know Chicharito and Welbeck are young and swift but then again, I believe Berbatov can still play behind them as playmaker? Haiz, if I were SAF, I would play him as playmaker since his speed is lacking and front strikers... :mad:

mr_missile
17-03-2012, 07:56 AM
I feel really sad for Berbatov. He is a genius with great control and vision as a footballer. But he only lacks one thing; not speed but opportunities by SAF. He is often kept warming the bench this entire season and I feel unjust for him. He was the top scorer for last season, why shouldnt he start more games this season? I know Chicharito and Welbeck are young and swift but then again, I believe Berbatov can still play behind them as playmaker? Haiz, if I were SAF, I would play him as playmaker since his speed is lacking and front strikers... :mad:

saf tends to play 4-4-2 : rooney is the undisputed 1st striker while it is always a battle for the 2nd forward slot between chicharito, wellbeck, berba and owen (when he's fit of cos. haha). that's why young players like macheda (and mame diouf) have hardly a sniff in as they are so far down the pecking order.

berba's 1st team opportunities were restricted by the form of chicarito last season and then wellbeck early this season. saf said last season when berba finished as joint top scorer in the bpl, that the form of chicharito makes it impossible to drop him and play berba. how many times have chicharito scored late opportunistic goals to snatch a draw or a win for united? sad to say, berba could never have that sort of impact.

so yes, i agree that berba is a very skilful player to have in the squad. but to choose 2 strikers to start a game, i will still choose rooney plus either chicharito or wellbeck. this choice is based on united's attacking game of using our fast wing play through nani, young and valencia crossing into the box for the strikers to create scoring chances. berba is thus always found lagging behind in these instances.

as a playmaker, saf has used giggs, cleverley, scholes and even rooney for that role. again berba is going to find it hard here.

he is a fine player. but he wants consistent first team football just like any other footballer (we are not like our noisy neighbours where the players get paid an obscene amount and yet are more than contented to just plant their backsides onto the bench and stay there :p ) especially at his age. saf understands that and therefore will not stand in his way to find another club in the summer.

united will not lose that much. we can always recall macheda as his loan spell with roma (if i recall correctly) ends also in the summer.

or perhaps saf will go for another big-name striker (but at a massive discount). fernando torres anybody? :p

mr_missile
19-03-2012, 07:35 AM
Wolves 0 v Manchester Utd 5

Wayne Rooney hailed a "great result" for Manchester United after they put their Europa League exit behind them with a 5-0 rout of Wolves.

The home side were already behind to a Jonny Evans goal when Ronald Zubar was sent off for his second bookable offence in the space of 12 minutes, and United took full advantage through Antonio Valencia and Danny Welbeck before the break.

Javier Hernandez scored twice in the second half to complete the rout which leaves United four points clear of Manchester City at the top of the table and Wolves bottom on goal difference.

"It was a great result for us, Thursday [against Athletic Bilbao] was a disappointing night for us all," Rooney told Sky Sports 1.

"We knew it was important we bounced back and bounced back well. Over the last few years coming here has been a difficult game, so to come away with three points so convincingly is a great day for us.

"The most important goal away from home is the first one to quiet the home fans down and then they had a man sent off and we took advantage of that, got a goal quickly after that and from there the game was dead really."

Rooney was named man of the match despite not finding the net himself and added: "You always want to score but we scored five as a team and I'm delighted for Danny and Chicharito to get on the scoresheet.

"We knew it was an opportunity today to score goals and we came in at half-time and spoke about pushing on and scoring more goals and got an extra two in the second half.

"In the Premier League we are playing very well and getting the results we need, so I am sure if we can keep doing that it will be a good season for us."

United manager Sir Alex Ferguson was not about to get carried away with his side's performance, telling Sky Sports 1: "It was okay, I don't think it was anything special. I think we've taken our goals well.

"The finish from Valencia was fantastic. Antonio is back in the team and his form was fantastic today. He's made one for Danny Welbeck before half-time that killed the match.

"It's difficult for them with 10 men, they were honest and kept plugging away but the 3-0 advantage was too much for them."

Asked about the title race, Ferguson added: "Hopefully we achieve what we want to achieve. What's significant today is it's reduced the goal difference by five goals and that's down to three now and it may make a difference at the end of the season. I expect it to go to the wire."

Roberto Mancini's men now play twice before United are in action again, following up Wednesday's encounter with resurgent Chelsea before visiting Stoke next Saturday.

"They (City) have a big game on Wednesday of course," said Ferguson.

"Chelsea are back to form so it will be really interesting.

"The important thing was for us to do our job.

"There are nine games left and we have to keep whittling them down.

"Eventually the games run out and hopefully we will achieve what we want."

The United boss heaped praise on Valencia, who was somehow overlooked for the man-of-the-match prize in favour of Wayne Rooney.

Valencia had been in outstanding form before suffering a hamstring injury against Ajax last month. The Ecuador wide-man appears to have picked up where he left off.

"He could be very important," said Ferguson. "His form before he got the injury was outstanding.

"Now he is back we hope he stays back fit. He is such an honest, hard working player.

"You get two sides to Antonio. He is prepared to work really hard. He can tackle, he can run, but he can also beat a man.

"He has got everything really."

Ferguson could have a joke at Evans' expense after the Northern Ireland international finally broke his duck on his 118th senior appearance - although he did net for Sunderland during a loan spell with the Wearside club in 2007.

"He has waited 14 years for that goal," said the Scot. "I don't think he even scored in the academy.

"But at this point in the season you don't care who scores."

Ferguson said Wolves could have no complaints over Zubar's red card.

However, he wished the Black Country outfit well in their survival quest, hard as it is to see a way out.

"Credit to Wolves," he said. "They are an honest team and that gives them a chance.

"They are down at the bottom in a group of five teams. If they can pick up a couple of wins it could all change around for them.

"They have great support and they are a great football club.

"You just hope that the history they have got, they stay in the league. The Premier Division needs Wolves."

badboynani17
19-03-2012, 12:07 PM
saf tends to play 4-4-2 : rooney is the undisputed 1st striker while it is always a battle for the 2nd forward slot between chicharito, wellbeck, berba and owen (when he's fit of cos. haha). that's why young players like macheda (and mame diouf) have hardly a sniff in as they are so far down the pecking order.

berba's 1st team opportunities were restricted by the form of chicarito last season and then wellbeck early this season. saf said last season when berba finished as joint top scorer in the bpl, that the form of chicharito makes it impossible to drop him and play berba. how many times have chicharito scored late opportunistic goals to snatch a draw or a win for united? sad to say, berba could never have that sort of impact.

so yes, i agree that berba is a very skilful player to have in the squad. but to choose 2 strikers to start a game, i will still choose rooney plus either chicharito or wellbeck. this choice is based on united's attacking game of using our fast wing play through nani, young and valencia crossing into the box for the strikers to create scoring chances. berba is thus always found lagging behind in these instances.

as a playmaker, saf has used giggs, cleverley, scholes and even rooney for that role. again berba is going to find it hard here.

he is a fine player. but he wants consistent first team football just like any other footballer (we are not like our noisy neighbours where the players get paid an obscene amount and yet are more than contented to just plant their backsides onto the bench and stay there :p ) especially at his age. saf understands that and therefore will not stand in his way to find another club in the summer.

united will not lose that much. we can always recall macheda as his loan spell with roma (if i recall correctly) ends also in the summer.

or perhaps saf will go for another big-name striker (but at a massive discount). fernando torres anybody? :p

Good analysis there, bro. Ya, you're right. Perhaps Berba is not much of a impact after all. I bet he can be a first team player in some other clubs like Wolves, west ham etc instead of a big club like Utd. Sad to see him go but it's for his career.

I seriously don't mind Torres cos' he's fast and with the killer instinct. Just that Chelsea's playing style and tactics might not suit him at all. Perhaps it was a wrong move for him to land in Chelsea, should be more effective in other aggressive-attacking teams like Barca, Utd or Arsenal.

Just my 2 cents worth. :D

badboynani17
25-03-2012, 08:07 PM
Man City drew last night! Great! Time for Utd to go 3 points clear! :D

machoman
27-03-2012, 08:29 AM
Man Utd go three clear on top with narrow win over Fulham

Tuesday, March 27, 2012

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Manchester United have gone three points clear at the Premier League table courtesy of a 1-0 victory over Fulham at Old Trafford tonight.

Sir Alex Ferguson’s made it seven wins in a row, and 11 matches unbeaten, by dominating proceedings for large periods of the contest but were thwarted by Cottagers keeper Mark Schwarzer who had a brilliant game with the gloves.

It was a scrappy first half for the most part but United finally edged ahead late in the term when Wayne Rooney slotted his 21st goal of the Premier League campaign. A floating ball from Ashley Young was directed to the back post from the left with Fulham’s Brede Hangeland missing his header before the ball deflected off John Arne Riise and into the path of Jonny Evans who screwed it back for Rooney to fire home.

Schwarzer held an early header from Ryan Giggs before Fulham’s first chance came in the 24th minute when Clint Dempsey’s curler forced an acrobatic save from David de Gea who had to dive full length to his left.

Just after the half-hour mark, Patrice Evra attempted a very agile overhead shot which had Schwarzer scrambling before the Australian came up with a brilliant save early in the second half when Antonio Valencia hammered a bouncing ball goalward from inside the area.

The 53rd minute saw Ashley Young force another top save from Schwarzer with a curling effort from range before the Fulham gloveman continued to keep his side in the match with a couple of brilliant blocks with 15 minutes remaining. First off he denied Young’s cracking volley before following up with a low block from the England winger’s second attempt prior to Hangeland denying Giggs’ effort from the third follow-up in a great escape for the visitors.

In the 89th minute, Fulham had a big call for a late penalty when Michael Carrick clattered into the back of Danny Murphy but referee Michael Oliver waved away the protests as the reigning champions rolled along to keep their noses in front of crosstown rivals Manchester City.

shysaint
27-03-2012, 08:47 AM
Football: The ’Great Dane’ will be in Singapore next week

Peter Schmeichel (File pic)

SINGAPORE: He is Denmark’s most—capped player, a Manchester United legend whom some pundits regard as the best goalkeeper in the history of football.

Peter Schmeichel, nicknamed the "Great Dane", retired in 2003.

From April 1, he will be the brand ambassador of Courts, Singapore’s largest electronic, IT and furniture retailer.

In a media statement released on Monday, Courts revealed that Schmeichel will be a part of their marketing campaigns for both traditional and new media over the next 12 months.

The 48—year—old will be "on duty" when he makes appearances at Courts stores in Malaysia and Singapore from April 7 to 10 .

His community engagement activities in Singapore will include a "Shoot for Hope" charity fund—raiser on April 9 involving S—League side the Courts Young Lions and the Singapore Disability Sports Council, as well as meet—and—greet sessions with fans.

As part of Courts’ 38th anniversary celebrations, 40 lucky customers will also get the opportunity to meet Schmeichel at the retailer’s invitation—only birthday party.

For Courts chief executive officer Terry O’Connor, signing on a football name of such stature will only add excitement for their customers.

Said O’Connor: "He is a renowned football legend and he certainly lends the Courts brand added star power and the partnership is also in line with our commitment to promote football."

In January 2011, Courts signed a two—year deal worth S$1 million — one of the biggest in S—League history — to sponsor the Young Lions.

Soon after that, Courts collaborated with aspiring Major League Soccer franchise the New York Cosmos on their tour of Asia, which saw football legends Pele and Eric Cantona visiting Singapore, along with former American international Cobi Jones.

With the signing of Schmeichel and his programme here, Courts continue to generate a buzz in the local football scene.

Twice voted the World’s Best Goalkeeper (1992 & 1993), Schmeichel won five Premier League titles with United as well as three FA Cups, a League Cup and the Champions League.

He won the European Championship with Denmark in 1992 and was capped 129 times over a 15—year career. —

TODAY

mr_missile
28-03-2012, 08:04 AM
Man City drew last night! Great! Time for Utd to go 3 points clear! :D

[b]Man Utd go three clear on top with narrow win over Fulham



3 points clear with 8 games to go. let's hope the gap gets bigger by the time we go to the ethihad stadium.

if we can be 6 points ahead by then, a draw there would effectively seal the title. imagine winning the title at the home ground of our noisy neighbours. :D

mr_missile
30-03-2012, 02:06 PM
Luck evens itself out - Fergie

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson insists lucky breaks even themselves out over the course of a season.

On Wednesday, Patrick Vieira suggested that United, along with most major clubs in Spain and Italy, benefited from favourable decisions on home soil - although the Frenchman later claimed his comments were taken out of context.

The argument has been reignited following Michael Oliver's failure to award Fulham a last-minute penalty at Old Trafford on Monday for Michael Carrick's clumsy challenge on Danny Murphy.

Ferguson accepts United - who won the game 1-0 - were lucky with that one.

However, he can cite plenty of other instances where his team were wronged.

"From the referee's position, I can see why he didn't give a penalty when Danny Murphy was brought down," he said.

"The ball moved to the angle as Michael Carrick challenged him. From that position, it wasn't clear.

"It was a good claim but City could have had a penalty against them at Stoke for a foul by Gareth Barry.

"Every club gets breaks here and there, you get good ones and bad ones.

"It evens itself out over the season, that will never change."

Ferguson used United's home game against Newcastle in November as an example of a major decision affecting his team, when Rio Ferdinand conceded a penalty for a perfectly fair challenge on Hatem Ben Arfa.

He also has not forgotten how Mario Balotelli escaped a red card for stamping on Scott Parker during Manchester City's win over Tottenham at the Etihad Stadium in January, then scored the match-winning penalty in injury-time.

"We had a terrible decision earlier this season when Newcastle got a penalty and Tottenham could claim the same when Mario Balotelli wasn't sent off and ended up scoring the winning goal," said Ferguson.

"You could go through millions of things like that.

"Maybe smaller clubs feel that (decisions go against them when they play big clubs) but someone said some years ago that we get lots of penalties. It is only averaging out at three a year.

"You can't say that is a lot when you are attacking teams all the time.

"Most managers believe the breaks even themselves out."

Meanwhile, Ferguson confirmed winger Nani would again be missing when United head to Blackburn on Monday.

The Portugal international has missed four games with an ankle injury and was expected to return to training early this week.

"He won't be back until tomorrow and Monday will come too soon," said the United boss.

machoman
03-04-2012, 09:35 AM
Late show sends Man Utd five points clear at the top

Tuesday, April 03, 2012

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Blackburn Rovers sink into the relegation places on goal difference after a 2-0 home defeat to Manchester United who extend their lead at the top of the Premiership to five points over Manchester City.

For 81 minutes it looked as if Blackburn might pick up an unlikely point in their bid to avoid the drop, but United are renowned for their late shows and two goals in the final nine minutes decided the game in favour of the visitor’s.

It is now six games since Rovers defeated Manchester United at home but they battled hard in defence to restrict the league leaders but finally cracked when Antonio Valencia beat keeper Paul Robinson at the far post.

Moments later and the points were secure as United made it ten wins out of their last eleven league games as substitute Ashley Young collected Valencia’s pass to finish with aplomb.

Yet, for all United’s dominance keeper David de Gea made two fine saves at the end of the first half from Grant Hanley and Marcus Olsson to prevent the host’s from taking a shock lead.

City boss Roberto Mancini felt Rovers might nick a point out of this game and he was so close to being proved right but United are relentless and continue their charge for the title.

Referee: Howard Webb

Venue: Ewood Park

Attendance: 26,532

Blackburn scorers: Man Utd scorers: Valencia 81, Young 86

machoman
03-04-2012, 02:56 PM
Man Utd's Last 7 Fixtures:

Apr 8 12:30 GMT Manchester United v Queens Park Rangers Old Trafford Premier League

Apr 11 18:45 GMT Wigan Athletic v Manchester United DW Stadium Premier League

Apr 15 15:00 GMT Manchester United v Aston Villa Old Trafford Premier League

Apr 22 11:30 GMT Manchester United v Everton Old Trafford Premier League

Apr 30 19:00 GMT Manchester City v Manchester United Etihad Stadium Premier League

May 6 13:00 GMT Manchester United v Swansea City Old Trafford Premier League

May 13 14:00 GMT Sunderland v Manchester United Stadium of Light Premier League

mr_missile
09-04-2012, 07:44 AM
United eight clear after OT win

Manchester United took a huge step towards retaining their Premier League title after disposing of 10-man QPR 2-0 at Old Trafford.

For the second time in 24 hours, a side mired in relegation trouble were the victims of a shocking decision as United's march to the title continued.

QPR's hopes of capitalising on Wigan's misfortune on Saturday were virtually ended after 13 minutes when skipper Shaun Derry was sent off for fouling Ashley Young inside the box.

Contact was minimal to start with, that Young was clearly offside when he received Wayne Rooney's through ball just made the call from referee Lee Mason even more farcical.

United should have run up a huge score, such was their overwhelming dominance thereafter.

Instead, they were forced to rely on a second-half piledriver from Paul Scholes to wrap up a win that keeps them on course to clinch a 20th championship.

Their day was made even better after seeing Arsenal sink title rivals Manchester City 1-0 at The Emirates, where Mikel Arteta scored a late winner and Mario Balotelli saw red in stoppage time.

Yet the recriminations from the Old Trafford blunder will last for some time.

Indeed, after this weekend's events, some bosses would argue what should be a thrilling fight to avoid relegation is in danger of being decided by who ends up with the most incompetent officials. That so much in prestige and finance is being risked seems frankly wrong.

The two abysmal decisions that condemned Wigan to defeat at Chelsea were matched by the appalling conclusion reached when Rooney slid his pass through to Young.

The linesman was in exactly the right position too, making his judgement even more mystifying.

Hughes strode the touchline in utter disbelief just as Roberto Martinez had done at Stamford Bridge 24 hours earlier.

Club officials protested vehemently on Twitter, with chief executive Phil Beard likening Young to British Olympic diving hopeful Tom Daley and owner Tony Fernandes declaring simply: "Awful. Spoilt another game". Fernandes also wrote that the club intended to appeal Derry's red card.

Rooney did not care of course, ramming home the spot-kick for his 29th goal of the season.

Behind, down in numbers and without Joey Barton, who is one booking away from a two-match ban, and Bobby Zamora, left on the bench after a recent head cold, QPR found themselves in an impossible situation.

United effectively set up camp around the visitors' penalty area and the only wonder was they had not increased their advantage by half-time.

Rooney brought a couple of decent saves out of Paddy Kenny, first with a curling free-kick, then a chip that was bound for the top corner.

Antonio Valencia was furious that a far more plausible penalty appeal than the one that had been given was turned down after he had been bundled over by Taye Taiwo.

Patrice Evra lashed a shot wide and Danny Welbeck had an effort charged down by Anton Ferdinand as QPR mounted a brave rearguard action.

Selected ahead of Javier Hernandez, Welbeck was eager to do well but was denied a goal at the start of the second half by an offside decision that was far closer than the earlier one.

Welbeck then fired well over from an acute angle, much to the frustration of Sir Alex Ferguson.

As with their previous home game against Fulham, United were failing to make their pressure tell.

Rooney was the next to waste an opportunity, although it was a half-chance, and Kenny needed to make a save.

Rafael should have scored after being brilliantly picked out by Scholes but the young Brazilian panicked, driving his shot straight at Kenny, who had gone down early, the ball then rising up onto the crossbar and bouncing to safety.

Welbeck was set up by Rooney and despite having two goes, failed to beat Kenny, who repelled the initial shot, then gathered the follow-up as it was stabbed goalwards.

It needed an old head to take control and Scholes duly obliged, drilling home from 25 yards after Abel Taarabt had gifted possession to Rafael.

Michael Carrick's ferocious 35-yard shot came crashing back off a post as United tried to improve their goal difference, which Ferguson continues to insist might be significant.

The return of DJ Campbell after three months out with a hamstring injury, could be just as notable for QPR, although that is of small comfort for Hughes, who just like Martinez, stormed away shaking his head at the injustice of it all.

shysaint
09-04-2012, 09:08 AM
ho sei liao ... ho sei liao ...

8 pts CLEAR ....

IF at this period can overtake comeone and then lead by 8 pts .... CONFIRM Champions liao .... :D

omnia
09-04-2012, 11:39 AM
Congrats to the red devils n its fans...

mr_missile
09-04-2012, 12:48 PM
Congrats to the red devils n its fans...

bro omnia, u a bit fast with the congratulations leh. united may be 8 points in the lead with 6 games to play. but we will not be arrogant and jump the gun. :p

we will keep the champange corked in the cooler until it is confirmed that united has won the league this season. and u are most welcome to join us in the celebrations then! ya? :)

omnia
09-04-2012, 02:09 PM
Did u catch the game at the emirates bro?...gunners deserved the victory...more imptly citeh looked like a spent force n macini appeared to run out of ideas...as usual super mario was being his usual
why always me self which just componded the problems...

just cant see citeh bouncing bk after yesterday...also united hv too much momentum n experience to suddenly collapse at this late stage, not forgetting that the ru in still favours united...

Bookies hv stopped taking bets on united n rtly so i sld add...overall united hv once again shown that it understands wat is necessary to win the epl...hats off to fergie n his boys n men...

Enjoy 20#...

bro omnia, u a bit fast with the congratulations leh. united may be 8 points in the lead with 6 games to play. but we will not be arrogant and jump the gun. :p

we will keep the champange corked in the cooler until it is confirmed that united has won the league this season. and u are most welcome to join us in the celebrations then! ya? :)

mr_missile
11-04-2012, 04:15 PM
Did u catch the game at the emirates bro?...gunners deserved the victory...more imptly citeh looked like a spent force n macini appeared to run out of ideas...as usual super mario was being his usual
why always me self which just componded the problems...

just cant see citeh bouncing bk after yesterday...also united hv too much momentum n experience to suddenly collapse at this late stage, not forgetting that the ru in still favours united...

Bookies hv stopped taking bets on united n rtly so i sld add...overall united hv once again shown that it understands wat is necessary to win the epl...hats off to fergie n his boys n men...

Enjoy 20#...

saw the gunners v citeh game. agree that citeh looked jaded and out of sorts. maybe the pressure of being 8 points behind at the start of the game had really affected them.

but also have to give credit to the gunners for a good game against citeh. player for player, save for RVP, citeh would have won hands down. but the gunners were definitely more spirited and willing to chase a seemingly lost cause.

arteta's goal was superbly taken. at 82 mins, it just took the wind out of our noisy neighbours. i must admit i jumped out of my sofa when the ball flew into the net, knowing that united will then surely be 8 points ahead.

but as the saying goes, never count the chickens before they are hatched. so until it is mathematically impossible for citeh to catch us, i will still put the champange on ice. :)

Rated-R
11-04-2012, 06:07 PM
saw the gunners v citeh game. agree that citeh looked jaded and out of sorts. maybe the pressure of being 8 points behind at the start of the game had really affected them.

but also have to give credit to the gunners for a good game against citeh. player for player, save for RVP, citeh would have won hands down. but the gunners were definitely more spirited and willing to chase a seemingly lost cause.

arteta's goal was superbly taken. at 82 mins, it just took the wind out of our noisy neighbours. i must admit i jumped out of my sofa when the ball flew into the net, knowing that united will then surely be 8 points ahead.

but as the saying goes, never count the chickens before they are hatched. so until it is mathematically impossible for citeh to catch us, i will still put the champange on ice. :)

With Man Utd's usual resilient character, they can catch up if rivals are 8-12pts ahead. And now they themselves are 8pts ahead...I doubt they will crumble under pressure.
Many other teams all have crumbled under pressure...but not Man Utd! Go Devils!

mr_missile
12-04-2012, 08:20 AM
City close gap on beaten United

Manchester City moved to within five points of Manchester United in the Premier League as they beat West Brom and the Red Devils lost at Wigan.

Reeling from three games without a win which appeared to gift the title to United, City roared to a 4-0 win over the Baggies with Sergio Aguero scoring twice and Carlos Tevez and David Silva adding further goals.

Sir Alex Ferguson's men, meanwhile, fell to Shaun Maloney's 50th minute strike in a 1-0 defeat at Wigan, a result which moved Roberto Martinez's men out of the relegation zone.

After their controversial loss at Chelsea on Saturday, the Latics scented more injustice when a first half header from Victor Moses was ruled out for an apparent foul on goalkeeper David De Gea.

But Wigan went ahead when Maloney slammed home left-footed from the edge of the box, and the home side survived a late penalty shout to cling on for three crucial points.

9tails4ox
12-04-2012, 08:20 AM
the red devils just lost to wigan in the morning and lead is now dropped to 5 points!

mr_missile
12-04-2012, 08:26 AM
With Man Utd's usual resilient character, they can catch up if rivals are 8-12pts ahead. And now they themselves are 8pts ahead...I doubt they will crumble under pressure.
Many other teams all have crumbled under pressure...but not Man Utd! Go Devils!

i am sure united will bounce back after this morning's shock loss to wigan. the gap is now only 5 points with 5 games to play.

we have just left the door a bit ajar and thus given our noisy neighbours a glimmer of hope. :)

mr_missile
14-04-2012, 12:18 PM
Title race is back on - Fergie

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has admitted that the Premier League title race is back on.

On Sunday evening it seemed to be in the bag for United, who had opened up an eight-point lead with six games remaining over a Manchester City side apparently imploding under Roberto Mancini.

But by Thursday morning there had been a significant shift in fortunes thanks to Wigan's shock win over United at the DW Stadium as the Blues were recording a comfortable victory over West Brom.

As City are in action first this weekend, United's lead could be down to just two points by kick-off of Sunday's encounter with Aston Villa.

And Ferguson concedes his team still has a fight to win.

"The race is back on isn't it?" he said. "They [City] have a chance don't they? They haven't been playing well, they've said that, but a 4-0 win is a good result at this time of the season."

Immediately after that game, City manager Mancini ruled out overhauling United and then continued the reverse psychology ahead of his side's encounter with Norwich by disparaging his own side compared with Ferguson's.

United are not buying it though, with Ferguson electing to stay out of the mind games.

"That doesn't matter to us," he said. "We've all got opportunities to talk about mind games. He [Mancini] has maybe picked the wrong time to say it."

Ferguson faces one of his former players this weekend in old Aberdeen stalwart Alex McLeish.

A series of depressing Villa performances have not done much to soothe relations between McLeish and the club's fans, who were not impressed by the choice of an old Birmingham manager as their new boss last summer.

Along with Blackburn's Steve Kean, McLeish has suffered the most intense in-house abuse in the top flight this term.

Yet it seems everyone is open to scrutiny, including Ferguson, whose decision to rest Paul Scholes for Wednesday night's shock defeat at Wigan was condemned by many supporters on United's own TV channel.

Asked whether the abuse McLeish has received could happen anywhere, Ferguson said: "I think so, yes. It is a change in society.

"I spoke some time ago about the picture of the melee on the pitch between United and Leeds and in the background the fans were completely passive. You wouldn't get that today.

"We did the right thing resting Paul on Wednesday. It may not have looked like that to the fans, but three games in seven days would have been a big ask.

"In games at Old Trafford, well any game really, he controls the tempo of our game and the rhythm of our game.

"We thought with Ryan Giggs' experience in the middle of the pitch that resting Scholesy would have been all right, but as it transpired that didn't show."

The annoyance at one selection by a manager who is trying to win his 13th Premier League title is nothing compared to the anger McLeish's presence has provoked amongst some sections of Villa's support.

During a recent game at Wigan they openly abused the Scot, who, like Kean, has kept his counsel in a dignified manner.

And Ferguson insists if Villa show a bit of patience, they will be rewarded.

"I do have sympathy for Alex," Ferguson added. "I have known him since he was a little kid. When I brought him into the team at Aberdeen he was always a very receptive, intelligent young man.

"He was a great player, has had a good career as a manager and will do a good job at Villa given time, trust and confidence. We all need a pat on the back at times and Alex has done a remarkable job."

Ferguson certainly believes McLeish has been the victim of owner Randy Lerner's demand to reduce the wage bill that built up under Martin O'Neill, coupled with injuries to key men Richard Dunne and Darren Bent.

"There was an imbalance in terms of what is needed in the Premier League," he said.

"You only need a couple of injuries and it is a massive blow. And in Bent you are taking away a goalscorer who gets between 18 and 20 a season. That is a big loss."

machoman
16-04-2012, 02:59 AM
Man Utd restore five-point lead with emphatic win over Villa

Monday, April 16, 2012

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Manchester United have maintained their five-point advantage at the top of the Premier League table courtesy of a 4-0 home win over Aston Villa.

Prior to today’s match, United led crosstown rivals Manchester City by just two points after the pursuers beat Norwich City 6-1 away but Sir Alex Ferguson’s flexed some muscle of their won by putting Villa away in front of a loyal Old Trafford crowd.

The first goal came in contentious circumstances when Ashley Young went down very easily under pressure from Ciaran Clark who had pulled out of the challenge only for the winger to make a meal of the minimal contact with referee Mark Halsey getting sucked in and pointing to the spot. Wayne Rooney stepped up and sent Shay Given the other to make it 1-0 after seven minutes.

Late in the first half, United doubled their lead when Danny Welbeck got on the end of a low Patrice Evra cross from the left wing which eluded all in the box for the striker to slide home at the back post.

With just over 15 minutes left, Rooney grabbed his second for the match, and 24th of the season, when he exchanged passes with Antonio Valencia before rifling a low shot past Given who had been wrong-footed by a deflection off James Collins.

Villa had been saved on a number of occasions by Given, who had come up with a handful of vital blocks to deny the home side, but he was unable to keep out Nani in injury time when the Portuguese squeezed in at the near post after latching onto lovely cushioned ball from Jonny Evans to wrap up the contest in emphatic style.

It was a swift reply from United who lost at Wigan Athletic in the week as they held up their end of the bargain in again going clear of City whilst Villa remain 15th following another disappointing result.

Manchester United: 4 (Wayne Rooney (p) 7’/74’, Danny Welbeck 43’, Nani 90+3’) Aston Villa: 0

Old Trafford, Manchester – 75,138

Yellow cards: MANU - Michael Carrick 9’, Paul Scholes 49’, Nani 90+2’ AV - Gary Gardner 38’, Alan Hutton 51’, Barry Bannan 90+1’

mr_missile
16-04-2012, 08:03 AM
Four-star United ease past Villa

Manchester United pulled five points clear of title rivals City after easing to a 4-0 victory over Aston Villa at Old Trafford on Sunday.

But Ashley Young was branded "a disgrace" by fellow Premier League player Ryan Taylor after the United star was involved in yet another penalty controversy in the hammering of Villa.

Wayne Rooney converted the sixth-minute spot-kick and added another, with Danny Welbeck and Nani also on target as United responded in perfect fashion to Manchester City's six-goal salvo on Saturday to re-establish a five-point lead at the top of the table.

Villa remain in trouble, six points clear of third-bottom Bolton, who also have a game in hand.

But, with four games to go, it is the battle at the top that is concentrating minds, and the behaviour of Young that is provoking ire.

Seven days ago, the former Aston Villa man was at the centre of a diving row when he went down under minimal contact from Shaun Derry.

As the FA upheld Derry's suspension, Young's behaviour was excused, even if his reputation took a knock.

Now there will be more questions about his willingness to bend the rules.

Newcastle's Taylor led the chorus of disapproval, branding Young "an absolute disgrace" on Twitter, adding: "He's the biggest cheat in the league. His antics are a joke."

The comment was hastily removed, although not before reaction had flashed around the world.

England legend Gary Lineker suggested Young could end up with an unwanted reputation if he keeps reacting in this way.

In an era where forwards tend to go down under the slightest contact, Young's theatrical fall did come after he was touched by Ciaran Clark.

Not enough to tip the England man over, though, and the incident did Young little credit.

In the context of relieving the pressure in a title fight that has had new life injected into it by a combination of City finding their form again and United losing at Wigan, it was a present.

Rooney kept his nerve and sent Shay Given the wrong way.

It was his 30th goal of the season and the 10th time he has scored against Given, now top of the list of his favourite keepers.

United dominated thereafter. Given's reaction save denied Welbeck, recalled along with veteran midfielder Paul Scholes, who met two thunderous volleys perfectly.

Given kept out the first, the second whistled wide at astonishing speed.

Though clearly limited, Villa did enough to keep their band of supporters interested and both Clark and Stephen Ireland went close during rare counter-attacks.

United needed a second to calm any remaining nerves and Nathan Baker duly provided a gift shortly before the break.

In allowing Patrice Evra's low cross to run under his leg at the far-post, Baker presumably thought the ball was heading out for a goal-kick.

He was mistaken.

Instead, Welbeck slid in to nudge home from close range, his 11th goal of the season, but only his second since January.

It was a defensive lapse that has been so prominent in Villa's season to date and clearly the finishing line cannot come soon enough.

They do have some tricky hurdles to negotiate yet, though, including a home encounter with Bolton, and the loss of Clark, who was groggily helped off after trying to continue following an accidental clash with Patrice Evra, did not help matters.

His replacement, Emile Heskey, came closest for the visitors not long afterwards.

But after his header was tipped over by David de Gea, Rooney spurned a golden opportunity when he mis-hit a 10-yard effort and sent it bobbling harmlessly wide.

It was not long before another chance came Rooney's way.

And this time it ended up in the net, thanks to a significant deflection off James Collins.

Before Villa could restart, Rooney was replaced by Dimitar Berbatov.

It did not seem to be a change the striker was entirely in agreement with.

However, with the clock ticking down on Berbatov's mercurial United career, the home fans did welcome the Bulgarian enthusiastically.

It was Nani, who had been introduced for Young after an hour, who provided the final flourish, though, finishing Jonny Evans' lay-off in cool fashion before a trademark somersault celebration

mr_missile
17-04-2012, 05:28 PM
Rooney out to be Best man

Rooney, who took his tally to 178, said: “Of course it would be great to surpass him. It will be a fine achievement that I’ll be proud of.

“I can’t really look at that. If it happens then great. I just have to keep myself focused on my game.”

Two more goals for the striker would mean only Bobby Charlton, Denis Law and Jack Rowley have scored more United goals than him.
But Rooney believes his biggest priority is making sure the champions keep rivals Manchester City at bay over the final month of the campaign.

He believes he has to do better and has another milestone in his sights.

The striker has 31 goals for the season — just three behind his best ever campaign in 2009-10.

But boss Alex Ferguson criticised some of his careless play against Villa and Rooney knows that, despite his two goals, his performance was not good enough.

He said: “I hope I can beat my best tally. It is the points that are important but if I can score goals to get those points then I’ll be delighted.

“At times against Villa I was disappointed with myself.

“I have to put that right. Obviously, I’m happy with the goals but the rest of my play wasn’t great.”

Rooney hopes for better when his old club and boyhood favourites Everton visit Old Trafford on Sunday.

United are five points ahead of neighbours City with four to play and things are building up nicely for the derby at the Etihad on April 30.

Rooney added: “If someone had said we’d be five points clear at this stage of the season a month or six weeks ago we’d have been delighted.

“Next week against Everton is a massive game. We need to get three points and that will make for an interesting night at City.”

Like Rooney, United were never at their best against Villa and were grateful to old-stager Paul Scholes for keeping them on course.

The 37-year-old has been a revelation since coming out of retirement in January — and Rooney has urged the midfielder to give it another season.

He said: “Everyone has seen the quality over the years. It’s just fantastic the way he keeps the ball for the team.

“He’s a big, important player for us and, hopefully, he’ll be here for a while.”

mr_missile
18-04-2012, 01:08 PM
heard from some of my united kakis that there are news that united has agreed a deal to sign midfielder nicholas gaitan from benfica in the summer transfer window.

deal is worth 20m pounds cash plus fabio (loan a year) and macheda (permanent).

any bros can confirm this? :)

yinyang
18-04-2012, 11:07 PM
united has agreed a deal to sign midfielder nicholas gaitan from benfica in the summer transfer window.
deal is worth 20m pounds cash plus fabio (loan a year) and macheda (permanent). any bros can confirm this? :)
Yo, see rumor mill mon

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/17724085

mr_missile
19-04-2012, 08:14 AM
Yo, see rumor mill mon

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/17724085

thks for the link bro. just a transfer gossip. gaitan is quite a good player. but i personally prefer eden hazard. or should united buy both? gaitan to eventually replace scholes and hazard taking over giggs? :p

shysaint
19-04-2012, 05:47 PM
Papers: Reds top rich list

19/04/2012 09:30

Mike McGrath writes in The Sun...

United are world's richest

Manchester United have been named the world’s richest club again - and valued at a massive £1.39billion. The Premier League champions topped Forbes magazine’s list for the eighth year in a row following another successful year for manager Alex Ferguson’s men. But neighbours City have still not broken into the top 10 of the rankings, moving up just two places to 13th. The next highest English team after United were Arsenal in fourth, followed by Chelsea in seventh, eighth-placed Liverpool and Tottenham in 11th. Spanish giants Real Madrid are second in the table, followed by their La Liga rivals Barcelona. Germany’s Bayern Munich complete the top five. United landed £103.5million in commercial revenue alone last season. And the Glazer family, who own the club, are thought to be considering putting some of the club on Singapore’s stock exchange which would raise even more funds. United’s value dwarfs the estimated £276.5m of City and their Abu Dhabi owners, headed by Sheikh Mansour.

Meanwhile, the Daily Mirror claims United are stepping up a bid to sign Athletic Bilbao’s £26million-rated midfield dynamo Oscar de Marcos. Sir Alex is apparently sending his "top spy" to watch the powerful prospect in the first leg of Bilbao's Europa League semi-final against Sporting Lisbon in Portugal on Thursday. The Daily Star reckons United have revived their interest in Luka Modric. Sir Alex has made the £40m-rated Tottenham playmaker his top summer transfer target. And Starsport understands United are currently firm favourites to land the Croatian ahead of Chelsea and Manchester City.

Elsewhere, the Daily Mail reports that Reds youngster Bebe has been excluded from first-team training at loan club Besiktas and warned he may never play for them again after he stayed out late in a disco.

Extracts from Manutd.com

A Red Devils
21-04-2012, 02:49 PM
please give ourselves a clap.

we will be champion again. :D

mr_missile
23-04-2012, 11:04 AM
Ferguson: Derby a title decider

Sir Alex Ferguson says Manchester United have given Manchester City the initiative in the title race after a "giveaway" 4-4 draw with Everton.

And Ferguson has labelled next week's Manchester derby as the most important in his entire career after branding the April 30 encounter at the Etihad Stadium a "title decider".

Ten minutes from the end of Sunday afternoon's Old Trafford clash at Everton, it seemed United would be preparing for the ultimate act of revenge after that 6-1 mauling by the Blues in October.

But goals from Nikica Jelavic and Steven Pienaar secured a staggering 4-4 draw for Everton in the latest of a sequence of amazing results this season, which now mean United go to Manchester City knowing if they lose they will surrender the initiative completely.

"Yes, definitely," said Ferguson, when asked if it was the most important derby he has known. "We've given them the initiative, there is no doubt about that.

"It makes the game at the Etihad a really important game. A decider really.

"There has been an expectancy from City that it could be their decider, but it's our decider too."

Twice in the second half United established two-goal leads after initially falling behind to Jelavic's opener.

Wayne Rooney scored two more goals to take his seasonal tally to 33, one adrift of his best tally, and 190 overall, fourth on United's all-time list.

When Danny Welbeck and Nani scored in the space of two minutes around the hour mark, it appeared victory was secure.

But Ferguson was stunned by the collapse of a team that had kept six clear sheets in its previous seven games.

"There were defensive lapses," he said. "Their goals were really soft. It was a real shock for us to defend like that.

"It was a travesty of a result in some ways but we made it difficult for ourselves and if you look at our history we keep doing that.

"We've thrown a game away that we should be coasting. But we didn't so we have given ourselves a difficult task."

Everton manager David Moyes said he felt "insulted" his side's character should have been questioned, even though they twice found themselves two adrift just eight days after they were beaten by old rivals Liverpool in the FA Cup semi-final.

"I am really disappointed people would question their character," said Moyes.

"It is a bit insulting because I would hate to think people either wouldn't understand me or the culture of Everton FC.

"At 4-2, did I think we were going to get back into it? I thought it would be very tough.

"But I felt we would definitely score one more goal, it was whether there would be enough time to get an equaliser."

Moyes conceded his side enjoyed "a bit of luck" when Patrice Evra's header came back off the post before the late drama.

However, the Toffees chief was making no apologies given he was already furious referee Mike Jones had not halted play in the build-up to United's second goal for treatment to Steven Pienaar.

"I was moaning at the referee because he made a decision for them and didn't equal it up for us," he said.

"I couldn't understand it. It was a hard day from that point of view."

Moyes was delighted with the final outcome though, which keeps Everton on track to finish the season above Liverpool, in addition to providing an unexpected twist in the title battle.

"We have reminded people that we are still here," said Moyes.

"We are not a bad team. Since January we have been a very good team.

"When you lose a semi-final against your local rivals it is tough to take.

"The message today was that we were going to go toe-to-toe with Manchester United.

"Only in the last minute were we hanging on a little bit.

"But how many teams are going to get back into it from a position like that at Manchester United?

"It will make next week's game at Manchester City a bit more tidy."

mr_missile
23-04-2012, 11:06 AM
please give ourselves a clap.

we will be champion again. :D

we just made our life very difficult last night, dropping 2 very unnecessary points. now we have to go to the ethihad stadium and avoid defeat against city.

machoman
23-04-2012, 05:12 PM
we just made our life very difficult last night, dropping 2 very unnecessary points. now we have to go to the ethihad stadium and avoid defeat against city.

Very disappointed in the defence last night.

From leading 4-2, they allowed Everton to score 2 goals in the last 10 mins.

:mad::mad::mad:

speedcat7
24-04-2012, 03:58 AM
Dun worry , Should be a draw for the Manchester derby on Mayday .

BTW , Can any bro up my points ?

I think some Liverpool idiot zap me to -1 ...

Thanks !

mr_missile
24-04-2012, 06:19 PM
Very disappointed in the defence last night.

From leading 4-2, they allowed Everton to score 2 goals in the last 10 mins.

:mad::mad::mad:

yes bro. the defence just went to sleep after being 3-1 up and then 4-2. to let in 2 goals in the space of 3 mins and in the last 10 mins of the game is really really disappointing. i couldn't believe my eyes as everton came back to draw 4-4. heartbreaking game indeed. :(

omnia
24-04-2012, 06:56 PM
think rio has to take quite alot responsibility for wat happened...if he continues like this n goes to euro12 in this kinda form think england in big trouble...united really seem to miss vidic at the mo...

As jimmy greaves use to say to ian st john..."its a funny old game saint!"...big game at the etihad mate!

yes bro. the defence just went to sleep after being 3-1 up and then 4-2. to let in 2 goals in the space of 3 mins and in the last 10 mins of the game is really really disappointing. i couldn't believe my eyes as everton came back to draw 4-4. heartbreaking game indeed. :(

badboynani17
24-04-2012, 08:23 PM
Very disappointed in the defence last night.

From leading 4-2, they allowed Everton to score 2 goals in the last 10 mins.

:mad::mad::mad:

It was a disappointing result! A good chance to open the goal difference but wasted...!

Think they really switched off in the last 10 mins. They thought they have won the game but didn't expect Everton to whack in another 2 goals within the last 10 mins.

Cross my fingers, at least a draw against Man City...

mr_missile
27-04-2012, 09:48 AM
think rio has to take quite alot responsibility for wat happened...if he continues like this n goes to euro12 in this kinda form think england in big trouble...united really seem to miss vidic at the mo...

As jimmy greaves use to say to ian st john..."its a funny old game saint!"...big game at the etihad mate!

not only rio bro. the whole defence went to zzzzz. now just got to wake up and do what we need to do at the ethihad stadium. we cannot lose there.

dream888
27-04-2012, 04:32 PM
Both the fullbacks played like crap in the Everton game, hopefully they get back their mojo ASAP. There is no reason why Evra was leaving Nani on his own. What was Evra thinking? Rafeal was totally at fault with the last two goals by Everton. Non existent marking, saw in his eyes that he saw Piemaar snicking inside yet he did not make any move.

mr_missile
30-04-2012, 11:38 AM
Both the fullbacks played like crap in the Everton game, hopefully they get back their mojo ASAP. There is no reason why Evra was leaving Nani on his own. What was Evra thinking? Rafeal was totally at fault with the last two goals by Everton. Non existent marking, saw in his eyes that he saw Piemaar snicking inside yet he did not make any move.

yups bro. rafael and evra were caught napping time and again by everton. rafael may even face the drop with pre-match news of saf mulling over to play jones or smalling at his expense.

tonite's the nite - mother of all manchester derbies. :p

lonesome1
30-04-2012, 09:25 PM
Manchester City 3 - 1 Manchester Utd

My humble prediction!

mr_missile
02-05-2012, 07:54 AM
Manchester City 3 - 1 Manchester Utd

My humble prediction!

thanks for your bold prediction. yes, you got it right as city won but the scoreline isnt as what you wished.

nonetheless, thank you for coming into the united thread to give your "prediction". :rolleyes:

2 more games to go. it ain't over till it's over.

glory glory man united!

dc7176
02-05-2012, 08:59 AM
Haiz... Well i think ever since the american came to the theatre of dreams. it became nightmare for us fans!!

last season win was pure luck n they tried to carry on ridding on their luck this season...

They dont deseved to win the EPL last season and this season neither... :(

we serioulsy need $$ for quality players to compete w the our noisy neighbour!!

machoman
02-05-2012, 09:47 AM
Another disappointing performance from Man Utd.

My friend was correct when he told me before the match that he heard from some sources that Man City will win the derby.

The 2nd part is that Man Utd will still win the EPL title. Let's see if his info is correct.

The fight to the wire is on!

alex18122003
02-05-2012, 12:06 PM
Man U should won the game against Everton last week. At least 3 points clear if we lose to Man City.

mr_missile
02-05-2012, 02:08 PM
Another disappointing performance from Man Utd.

My friend was correct when he told me before the match that he heard from some sources that Man City will win the derby.

The 2nd part is that Man Utd will still win the EPL title. Let's see if his info is correct.

The fight to the wire is on!

the title is now out of our hands. we have to depend first on newcastle this weekend and then qpr next to take points off city for united to be able to have another chance to wrest the title off them. :(

shysaint
02-05-2012, 02:16 PM
the title is now out of our hands. we have to depend first on newcastle this weekend and then qpr next to take points off city for united to be able to have another chance to wrest the title off them. :(

Yeah, UNless we can score a dozen of goals to overhaul in goal difference. :(

jitlong69
06-05-2012, 02:50 AM
After missing all the EPL actions, and reading and seeing this I guess it is all over. The biggest setback was, when they lost to Wigan and how could this be with 4-2 up and when the final whistle blew it was 4-4 with Everton.

I dont want to be a sore loser but I must say "is there more than what we see?"

Bro Machoman, I hope your friend's info is right about the winner of the EPL.

Sad!

dream888
06-05-2012, 07:44 AM
Hoping and praying Newcastle can do us this favor. Just great that Newcastle got Champions league qualification to play for especially with Arsenal drawing yesterday. Let's go Man Utd!!!! But in the first place, no more bobos liao with the Swansea game.

joew2005
06-05-2012, 06:18 PM
http://sg.sports.yahoo.com/news/manchester-united-swansea-city-preview-must-win-clash-075215578--spt.html

ManU - Swansea City Preview: Must-win clash 4 champions aft slipping behind City

ManU hv injury problems, with Jonny Evans & Danny Welbeck both in the treatment room, joining Paul Pogba, Anderson, Nemanja Vidic & Darren Fletcher on the sidelines.

Chicharito should start up front in place of Welbeck, whilst Antonio Valencia could also return 2 the starting XI aft only featuring as a substitute against ManC.

Elsewhere, goalkeeper Anders Lindegaard is also available aft injury & shld make the bench.

Swansea City also hv their own injury worries & will be without Kemy Agustien, Ferrie Bodde & Andrea Orlandi 4 the trip 2 Old Trafford.

Defender Angel Rangel is a doubt with a hamstring problem, but is expected 2 be fit, & Brendan Rogers will be hoping Leon Britton can shrug off a knee problem, while Alan Tate has recovered fr a calf injury.


DID YOU KNOW?
ManU’s defeat 2 neighbours City on Monday saw the champions fail 2 register a shot on target in a game 4 the 1st time in almost 3 years.

The champions’ 1-0 victory @ Swansea back in November saw the Red Devils become the 1st visiting club 2 win @ the Liberty Stadium in the Premier League tis season.

ManU hv won just 1s in their last 4 games (against Aston Villa), in a run tat has seen them pick up just 4 points fr a possible 12 available.

Wayne Rooney has scored as many Premier League goals tis season(26) as the entire Swansea team hv managed @ home in the league.

Rooney will make his 250th Premier League appearance on Sunday; he has scored 198 career goals.

Swansea City hv lost 10 games away fr home tis season. In the Premier League only QPR & Bolton hv lost more.

The Swans hv never won @ Old Trafford. In 8 attempts they hv lost 6 & drawn twice.

Striker Danny Graham has scored more goals tis season(13) than both Chicharito(12) & Danny Welbeck(12).

Brendan Rodgers’ side r on a poor run, having won just 1s in their last 7 games (@ home against struggling Blackburn).

Last time out they squandered a 3-0 lead 2 draw 4-4 with Wolves. Some consolation 4 the Swans came in the shape of Andrea Orlandi's goal which, aft 22 seconds, became the quickest in the Premier League tis season.

ah chim
06-05-2012, 11:37 PM
Man Utd had scored thru scholes now but with man city winning earlier the man Utd players did not celebrate their goals

mr_missile
07-05-2012, 09:40 AM
Man Utd had scored thru scholes now but with man city winning earlier the man Utd players did not celebrate their goals

we threw the title away after the dreadful home draw agst everton when we let in 2 goals in 3 mins in the last 10 mins of the game. :(

dream888
07-05-2012, 02:26 PM
Haiz, even a draw against lowly Wigan would suffice.

Wholesale changes need to be made.

Playing a little fantasy football now
Shopping list:
New main striker, --> Norwich (Grant Holt) ?
2 creative central midfielders, --> Swansea City (Gylfi Sigurdsson) ? Borussia Dortmund (Mario Gotze) ?
New starting right and left backs --> can't think of any Good ones now haha
Maybe new manager too, SAF is already 71 this year, the hair dryer treatment also no power liao.

joew2005
07-05-2012, 09:12 PM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1064668/manchester-united's-sir-alex-ferguson-eyes-spark-of-inspiration?cc=4716

Fergie eyes Spark of inspiration
May 7, 2012

SAF is banking on Mark Hughes coming back 2 haunt ManC on the final day of the Premier League season.

City lead Ferguson's ManU on goal difference with 1 game 2 play & r long odds-on 2 take the title as they face QPR on the final day.

The hope 4 United, who meet Sunderland in their final game, is tat QPR r spurred on by their own battle against relegation & r inspired by Hughes who was axed by City in acrimonious circumstances.

"QPR need a point & they're fighting 4 survival," Ferguson said. "The whole future of the club could be resting on the game & I only wish Sparky was playing.

"But Mark knows his job all right. He was sacked by City in a very unethical way & he'll remember tat."

Ferguson has a passion 4 horse racing & is hoping 4 a dramatic moment similar 2 the 1956 Grand National when Devon Loch fell just yards fr the line with the race in the bag.

"There could be a Devon Loch. You never know," said Ferguson. "Stranger things hv happened in tis game of football.

"They're red-hot fav but we've won the title on 3 occasions on the last day & we don't mind doing it again."



http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/1064500/jolly:-red-devils-dare-to-dream?cc=4716

Red Devils dare to dream
May 6, 2012

Not since Denis Law struck 4 ManC as ManU were relegated @ Old Trafford in 1974 has a backheeled goal appeared so unappreciated by the scorer. As Paul Scholes, born later tat momentous year, flicked United into the lead with masterly expertise, there was barely a flicker of a celebration. No raised arm, no smile, no indication of joy.

Not 4 the 1st time, a glance @ Scholes offered an accurate appraisal of United. There was an air of resignation abt the old timer, a sense tat a scoring a goal, no matter hw skilful, when the Premier League trophy seems headed 4 the Etihad Stadium was the footballing equivalent of winning a minor battle & losing a major war.

But both goalscorers' reaction told a tale in themselves. Scholes was the face of realism, Ashley Young the voice of implausible optimism. When the winger doubled United's advantage against Swansea, he charged in2 the visitors' net, retrieving the ball & haring back 2 the half-way line. It was as though, even with 49 mins remaining, he reasoned tat saving a few seconds could salvage their title bid.

Tis was hope, improbable hope, @ 1s understandable & unrealistic. The extra time produced no dividend, however, United proving profligate as chances 2 chip away @ City's superior goal difference were spurned. Roberto Mancini's men r 8 better off; unless United can defeat Sunderland by 9 or more goals, therefore, they need QPR 2 avoid defeat @ the Etihad Stadium.

"You hv 2 think there's hope," Ferguson said b4 citing, as he often does, the 1956 Grand National, & hoping City will stumble @ the final hurdle. "There could be a Devon Loch. You never know. Stranger things hv happened in tis game of football."

Yet Devon Loch lingers so long in his memory precisely becos it was a 1-off. As he needed 2 be, Ferguson was more bullish 2 the Old Trafford crowd than the post-match interviewers. "Hopefully next week it will be the biggest celebration of our lives," he had said, in a brief end-of-season address. But he did not accompany his players on the lap of honour. United may end their campaign with 89 points, but tat is not enough 2 merit a jubilant trot around the pitch.

It is abt context, & the context is tat United's hopes rest with a striker Ferguson sold, a manager he scorned & a relegation-threatened team. Mark Hughes' QPR r City's remaining opponents. "I just wish Sparky was playing," Ferguson joked.

Even in a year of valiant veterans, depending upon a 48-year-old forward might be stretching credibility a little. As it was, a 37-year-old midfielder broke the deadlock, Scholes ghosting in behind Mark Gower as Antonio Valencia sped past Neil Taylor. The winger set up Michael Carrick, whose sidefooted shot was deftly redirected by his central midfield partner.

Then, when Angel Rangel had slid in 2 block Wayne Rooney's shot, Young guided the rebound in2 the far corner of the net. Wat happened next was noted by Brendan Rodgers. "He sprints in2 the goal 2 get the ball," the Swansea manager said. "Tat tells me he thinks they can get a load of goals."

And, while he praised his side 4 keeping the 2nd half scoreless, they could hv done. The list of United's potential scorers included both full-backs, Patrice Evra & Phil Jones; 1 centre-back, Chris Smalling; plus substitute Tom Cleverley; as well as more regular suspects. All had opportunities, none went in.

United could hv run up a rugby score but profligacy brought symmetry. They, like City did @ Newcastle, won 2-0. A 20th title looks like eluding United, just as Rooney missed out on a landmark of his own. A 34th goal of the season would hv equalled his personal best; instead, on the day he collected a belated 1st caution of the league campaign, he scooped a shot wide when Valencia & Carrick had combined beautifully.

Open & attacking, positive & progressive, tis was more recognisably a United side than the cautious collective beaten @ City on Monday. But tat was a side selected in the fear tat they could not go toe 2 toe with their moneyed rivals. As it is, they still sit side by side on 86 points but proximity looks very painful 4 United.

MAN OF THE MATCH: Ashley Young - Sharp & lively, he was involved in many of United's finest moves & took his goal expertly. Tis was Young's 1st start since the Villa game 3 weeks ago; perhaps the winger's theatrics then persuaded Ferguson 2 remove him fr the limelight but Young showed tat, when he stays on his feet, he has plenty of tricks in his armoury.

MAN U VERDICT: Valencia was excellent, begging the question of why the division's form right winger did not start against City, while Scholes & Carrick impressed in midfield. However, Javier Hernandez proved particularly wasteful in attack & the chances Swansea enjoyed, often involving Gylfi Sigurdsson, showed tat United struggled 2 pick up the Icelander.

SWANSEA VERDICT: Last week's ill-advised flirtation with wat Rodgers had termed a "3-diamond-3" formation was not repeated. Swansea reverted 2 a more familiar 4-2-3-1 & were all the better 4 it. While they could hv conceded more goals, they were also close 2 netting themselves, with David de Gea producing a fine stop 2 deny Danny Graham. They passed the ball with typical confidence & a wonderful debut season in the Premier League could yet end with a top-half finish. There was also time 4 sentiment when Alan Tate, the former United youth player & a stalwart of Swansea's time in the lower leagues, was given a late cameo.

mr_missile
08-05-2012, 06:00 PM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1064668/manchester-united's-sir-alex-ferguson-eyes-spark-of-inspiration?cc=4716

Fergie eyes Spark of inspiration
May 7, 2012



we should never have put ourselves to be in this situation and having to depend on others to take points off city. :(

yinyang
08-05-2012, 06:13 PM
we should never have put ourselves to be in this situation and having to depend on others to take points off city. :(
Yo, fat hope to expect sparky and QPR to do so at Etihad! :( No silver ware this season, excuses to concentrate on EPL when we lost out on league cup, FA and CL kns. No point being #2, but for next seasons's CL

mangoesteam
09-05-2012, 07:55 PM
Sorry guys, this season is a classic case of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. :confused::o

mr_missile
12-05-2012, 12:38 PM
Yo, fat hope to expect sparky and QPR to do so at Etihad! :( No silver ware this season, excuses to concentrate on EPL when we lost out on league cup, FA and CL kns. No point being #2, but for next seasons's CL

i honestly can't see hughes and qpr getting anything out of city at the ethihad. let's just hope that we come back stronger next season.

congrats in advance to our noisy neighbours. enjoy it while u can cos we'll be back! :)


Sorry guys, this season is a classic case of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

haha. well said bro. we really shot ourselves in the foot....throwing away an 8point lead with 6 games to play then. :(

CooLLeh
13-05-2012, 05:02 PM
i honestly can't see hughes and qpr getting anything out of city at the ethihad. let's just hope that we come back stronger next season.

congrats in advance to our noisy neighbours. enjoy it while u can cos we'll be back! :)




haha. well said bro. we really shot ourselves in the foot....throwing away an 8point lead with 6 games to play then. :(

wasted the 8 points ..but hopefully tonite hughes can do a weebit of magic ..but from the looks of it ..seems hard ...can only pray ...:D

badboynani17
13-05-2012, 05:07 PM
Let's be United and pray together.... a draw for City game and a win for United is good enough... :D

jitlong69
13-05-2012, 11:46 PM
i honestly can't see hughes and qpr getting anything out of city at the ethihad. let's just hope that we come back stronger next season.

congrats in advance to our noisy neighbours. enjoy it while u can cos we'll be back! :)




haha. well said bro. we really shot ourselves in the foot....throwing away an 8point lead with 6 games to play then. :(

Refuse to watch the game tonight. What are ManU chances? I dont even give a one per cent chance. But as I saw the results with another 10 mins of normal time to go............ManC trailing OPR 1-2. Some kind of a joke???

ManU leading by a Rooney goal...........what's going on ?????:confused:

10 long long mins to go

mangoesteam
13-05-2012, 11:48 PM
haha. well said bro. we really shot ourselves in the foot....throwing away an 8point lead with 6 games to play then. :(oh..you are beauty! I love to be proved wrong in this case> 2mins more to prove me wrong.

alex18122003
14-05-2012, 01:09 AM
Glory, glory, Man United,
And the reds go marching on, on, on.
Just like the Busby Babes in Days gone by
We'll keep the Red Flags flying high
You've got to see yourself from far and wide
You've got to hear the masses sing with pride
United! Man United!

mr_missile
14-05-2012, 11:14 AM
Glory, glory, Man United,
And the reds go marching on, on, on.
Just like the Busby Babes in Days gone by
We'll keep the Red Flags flying high
You've got to see yourself from far and wide
You've got to hear the masses sing with pride
United! Man United!

lovely song bro! bravo!

we were just not good enough this season. we have no divine right to win the league every year. we have to win it. the title doesn't just fall into our hands.

i remember when we first lost the title to wenger's arsenal. and what did we do? we came back to win it.

we then lost to chelsea under mourinho. we also came back.

we lost to chelsea again under ancelotti. we came back too.

last night we lost to city under mancini. we will come back to reclaim the title. rest assured of that fellow united fans. :)

glory glory man united. the reds will go marching on on on !!!!!

the champ20ns will be back!

omnia
14-05-2012, 01:26 PM
Wat can i say bro...another roy of the rovers moment...another "its a funny old game saint" moment...life imitating art at its best...thrill of victory n agony of defeat...football at its v best...

But i hv been there before, literally...26 May 1989, Anfield, reds v gooners...thomas scoring in stoppage time to give arsenal the title...cried buckets of tears!!...

Here's to nxt season...hoping me reds r up there pushing yr red devils n yr noisy neighbours, now probably even noisier!!

Cheerios





we were just not good enough this season. we have no divine right to win the league every year. we have to win it. the title doesn't just fall into our hands.

i remember when we first lost the title to wenger's arsenal. and what did we do? we came back to win it.

we then lost to chelsea under mourinho. we also came back.

we lost to chelsea again under ancelotti. we came back too.

last night we lost to city under mancini. we will come back to reclaim the title. rest assured of that fellow united fans. :)

glory glory man united. the reds will go marching on on on !!!!!

the champ20ns will be back!

mr_missile
15-05-2012, 01:59 PM
Wat can i say bro...another roy of the rovers moment...another "its a funny old game saint" moment...life imitating art at its best...thrill of victory n agony of defeat...football at its v best...

But i hv been there before, literally...26 May 1989, Anfield, reds v gooners...thomas scoring in stoppage time to give arsenal the title...cried buckets of tears!!...

Here's to nxt season...hoping me reds r up there pushing yr red devils n yr noisy neighbours, now probably even noisier!!

Cheerios

you can say that again bro. last sun's games were an absolutely unbelievable last 5 mins. it was agonising to say the least.

i thought the game vs everton was bad enough, letting in 2 goals in 3mins all within the last 10 mins to drop 2 points.

then it happened all over again. the final whistle just wouldn't blow. 1st the equaliser from dzeko. then the winner from aguero. broke my heart bro. not sure if u literally cried buckets when thomas scored for the gooners with the last kick of the game, but i did weep uncontrollably in my heart. :(

i am sure the win will lift city. yes, they will absolutely be even noisier now. but i am also sure united will come back.

looking forward to u reds to challenge again next season. heard king kenny's reign at anfield may be cut short by the owners though. all the best to u now. cheers!

Cerberus
16-05-2012, 12:14 PM
condolences to all Man U fans.....

does anyone found the youtube video of wayne rooney's winning goal against sunderland?

mr_missile
21-05-2012, 08:00 AM
UNITED SEAL POWELL DEAL

After making a personal visit to watch Nick Powell in action, Alex Ferguson has decided to splash out £4million to sign the Crewe youngster, according to the Mail on Sunday.

The 18-year-old has been a regular in the Railwaymen's first team this season, notching 15 goals in 44 appearances. Powell is another graduate of Crewe's famous academy, run by Dario Gradi, which has produced the likes of David Platt, Danny Murphy, Seth Johnson and Dean Ashton in the past.

The transfer signals United's determination to stick to a policy of building with youth, and in Powell they have signed an excellent prospect who can play both as an attacking midfielder and out-and-out striker.

Crewe will hold onto their star player for the League Two playoff final against Cheltenham on May 27, giving United fans the perfect opportunity to have a look at the club's new signing.

asiancigar
21-05-2012, 10:04 PM
Nick Powell.... who???

Our beloved Red Devils is scrapping the bottom of the barrel..... really pathetic

Cheerz
AC

mr_missile
25-05-2012, 01:43 PM
Who will Hazard choose?

Hazard reveals final three

Belgium star Eden Hazard has confirmed he will be joining either Manchester City, Manchester United or Chelsea for next season.

The Belgium international is set to make his decision in the coming weeks as the Lille star takes into account a number of variables.

He admits that it will depend on how often he will play and where he will play for his new side.

Arsenal and Tottenham had also been linked with a deal for the 21-year-old forward, but he now admits that it will be one of the Manchester giants or Chelsea.

"I do not know when a decision will be made about my future club," he told the Belgian media after training with the national side.

"It will be between Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea.

"The final choice also depends on how much play that I would get and the position where I play.

"Not everyone can say that he can choose from these three clubs."

mr_missile
28-05-2012, 08:14 AM
Nick Powell.... who???

Our beloved Red Devils is scrapping the bottom of the barrel..... really pathetic

Cheerz
AC

here's a short write up of who nick powell is......

Nick Powell Would Be A Coup For United


According to reports, Man United have a £4million deal in place to sign Crewe youngster Nick Powell. Both Matt Stanger and his Grandad think it's a good move...

For the past 18 months my Grandad has been badgering me about the brilliance of Nick Powell.

As a lifelong Crewe Alexandra fan, his support spanning more than 80 years (I'm not allowed to reveal his actual age), he's seen plenty of skillful players turn out for the Railwaymen. But none, he says, have ever had as much potential as the 18-year-old forward linked with a £4million move to Manchester United.

I have to admit, the first time Grandad sang Powell's praises, I thought he may have had a few too many pints of mild. Given the quality players Crewe have produced in the past, it was certainly a bold claim.

I trusted that Powell was good, but was he honestly a better prospect than Dean Ashton, scorer of 74 goals for the Alex in his first five seasons as a professional? "Yes," was Grandad's reply. Better than Danny Murphy, who helped the club climb into the second tier of English football for the first time since 1896 before leaving for Liverpool? "Definitely." Even better than David Platt, who Dario Gradi snapped up as a teenager after his release from Man United and averaged more than a goal every three games before going on to win 62 England caps? "Yes. Matt, how long is this going to go on for? I'm playing bingo in half an hour."

It was emphatic approbation indeed, from a man who once refused to put one of my drawings on the fridge because I'd accidentally coloured over the lines.

After watching the youngster curl in his first senior goal in Crewe's 3-1 win against AFC Wimbledon in October, I could see that Grandad hadn't been exaggerating, unlike his stories about being voted Mr.Cheshire for ten years in a row during his twenties. Here was a player built in the Gradi ethic. Always with his head up, Powell had excellent control, the ability to dribble past defenders and bags of determination.

"With kids we talk about can you get hold of the ball and can you do something with it. Can you keep the ball? Can you pass and move?" Gradi told the Guardian when he was presented with the Contribution to League Football Award in 2011. In his latest prodigy, Crewe's academy chief - who managed the club for over 25 years - has helped nurture those vital and evident attributes.

An England under-18 international, Powell clearly has a bright future ahead of him. After scoring 14 goals in 38 league matches for Crewe this season, he became the first player to pick up all five of the club's end of season awards, including Goal of the Season for this fabulous strike against Gillingham. When a player is acknowledged as being both the Young Player and Player of the Year, you know he's pretty special.

One man who apparently agrees is Sir Alex Ferguson. After receiving glowing reports of Powell from United's scouts, the manager made a personal visit to watch the youngster in action in Crewe's last game of the league campaign against Aldershot. Again Powell didn't fail to impress, helping his side recover from going behind to secure a playoff place.

And despite a gruelling first full season in professional football, the striker saved his best for last, scoring a wonder-goal at Wembley as Crewe achieved promotion thanks to a 2-0 victory over Cheltenham. With just 15 minutes on the clock, Powell picked up the ball on the edge of the area, before turning superbly and rifling across the goal into the top corner. If the move to United is completed, it will prove a fitting leaving present.

"You can't do what Barcelona do if your players aren't as good as their players. Although it looks easy, to receive the ball under pressure, it requires a really high level of skill," Gradi once said. "Plus you can't teach the confidence, the mental side of that kind of play."

Grandad might hold back from suggesting Powell is good enough to play for Barcelona, but should Man United part with the proposed £4million for the 18-year-old's signature, they will acquire a precocious talent with the requisite self-assurance described by Gradi.

Indeed, just over two months ago Powell was younger than the legal drinking age. On May 27 he was given the man of the match champagne following a sparkling performance in the League Two playoff final. Finishing the season as the Railwaymen's top scorer, Powell has already spearheaded one successful project of building with youth. It's now time to play a part in a second.

dc7176
28-05-2012, 06:31 PM
here's a short write up of who nick powell is......

Nick Powell Would Be A Coup For United


According to reports, Man United have a £4million deal in place to sign Crewe youngster Nick Powell. Both Matt Stanger and his Grandad think it's a good move...


hmm... Pardon me, who is this Matt Stanger??:confused::rolleyes:

mr_missile
29-05-2012, 08:14 AM
hmm... Pardon me, who is this Matt Stanger??:confused::rolleyes:

this matt guy is a sports reporter bro. i quoted his article from football365. :D

on a side note, it seems like eden hazard has decided to go for blue next season......the chelski blue that is. sigh.....another potential signing down.....

no disrespect to the players mentioned, but do we really have to go for the 2nd or 3rd tier players like powell, kevin prince boateng, kagawa etc?

and miss out on hazard, gaitan and modric, when we really need that creative spark in midfield? sigh.....

asiancigar
29-05-2012, 08:43 AM
The pathetic financial state we are in.... forget about signing anyone costing more that Euro10million. :mad:

Perhaps, we should recall Van Nisteroy before he really retires....

Cheerz
AC

imom
30-05-2012, 07:16 AM
Hazard said he will choose the club that will give him the most playing time in his no.10 position. Then promptly chooses the club with the most uncertainty - Chelsea does not even have a manager confirmed. :rolleyes:

Can't resist the lure of the glitz and glamour of London, just say so. No need to cook up some half-assed 'footballing' reason. We can all understand being 21 y/o and wanting to be in the capital city instead of a grey, rainy Manchester.

mr_missile
30-05-2012, 08:09 AM
The pathetic financial state we are in.... forget about signing anyone costing more that Euro10million. :mad:

Perhaps, we should recall Van Nisteroy before he really retires....

Cheerz
AC

united are very close to signing kagawa after seemingly losing out on hazard in the report below.

this japanese bloke doesn't come in cheap bro. :)

United close to Kagawa deal - reports


Manchester United are close to agreeing an initial £12m deal to sign Japan midfielder Shinji Kagawa, according to reports in Germany.

Kagawa has long been linked with a move to Old Trafford and now Kicker report that Borussia Dotrmund have agreed to accept just £12m, with the fee rising to £17.5m with add-ons.

The midfielder's agent Thomas Kroth has travelled to Japan this week to discuss the move with Kagawa, who has previously revealed a meeting with United boss Sir Alex Ferguson.

Kagawa cost Dortmund just £275,000 from Japanese club Cerezo Osaka and earns less than £15,000 a week so wages will not be a stumbling block in agreeing personal terms.

He notched 13 goals and 11 assists in the Bundesliga last season as he claimed his second successive Bundesliga winner's medal.

yinyang
30-05-2012, 09:30 AM
...promptly chooses the club with the most uncertainty - Chelsea does not even have a manager confirmed. :rolleyes:
Can't resist the lure of the glitz and glamour of London, just say so. No need to cook up some half-assed 'footballing' reason. We can all understand being 21 y/o and wanting to be in the capital city instead of a grey, rainy Manchester.
How ironic. Folly of youth, and also CL glitter:rolleyes:

dream888
30-05-2012, 12:11 PM
No fish prawn also good. Haizzzz

Pls at least sign some players to increase competition

IBCBen
30-05-2012, 12:14 PM
I think Man Utd is losing its grip on EPL. Now Chelsea and Man City and even Tottenham is catching up.

By the way i am a Chelsea fan.. since Zola, Vialli and Roberto Di Matteo that era. To see that all 3 are now managers already. Times flies

mr_missile
31-05-2012, 12:48 PM
No fish prawn also good. Haizzzz

Pls at least sign some players to increase competition

since chelski has gotten hazard, means they will not be going for modric now.

united should go all out to sign modric for that creative spark that was sorely lacking last season.

kagawa is more of an attacking midfielder. modric is the creative midfielder where he dictates play and pulls all the strings.

if we can get both modric and kagawa, we will definitely be able to put up a fight and wrest back the epl title next season.

dc7176
31-05-2012, 04:35 PM
if we can get both modric and kagawa, we will definitely be able to put up a fight and wrest back the epl title next season.

Wah bro u v optimistic leh!! :)

as long we hav the american as owner, we b goin nowhere... or i mean only way to go is down!! too burden by debts!! :mad:

mr_missile
31-05-2012, 05:57 PM
Wah bro u v optimistic leh!! :)

as long we hav the american as owner, we b goin nowhere... or i mean only way to go is down!! too burden by debts!! :mad:

one must always look ahead bro. as long as sir alex is in charge, we can be sure that united will fight for the title.

last season we spent more than 60m pounds on de gea (18m), jones (17m), smalling (10m) and young (17m).

i am quite sure we could afford to get modric (asking price now is 35m pounds) and kagawa (15m) for a total of 50m. heck, we can even throw in leighton baines for another 8m and not exceed last year's spending. :D

we have also to most likely unload berba (should worth at least 5m), owen (free), and maybe listen to offers for nani (juve rumoured to be interested) if we need to sell to ease the cash outflow.

mr_missile
05-06-2012, 10:28 AM
united is being quoted 32m pounds for modric, 20m pounds each for baines and tiote.

modric for 32m pounds not too unreasonable. but 20m pounds each for baines and tiote? sir alex will surely not pay such money for them.

shysaint
05-06-2012, 05:17 PM
United confirm Kagawa deal

June 5, 2012

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Manchester United have confirmed they have "agreed terms" for the transfer of Shinji Kagawa from Borussia Dortmund.


PA PhotosShinji Kagawa: 71 appearances, 29 goals and 15 assists during his two years at Dortmund


• Man Utd close on Kagawa deal

Dortmund midfielder Kagawa, 23, will join United this summer for a fee reportedly in the region of £16 million, subject to a medical and work permit.

It was reported at the end of May that the Red Devils were closing in on the capture of the Japan international after he was scouted by Sir Alex Ferguson.

A statement on United's official website read: "Manchester United is delighted to announce that it has agreed terms with both Borussia Dortmund and Shinji Kagawa for his transfer to the Club.

"The deal is subject only to the player medical and obtaining a UK work permit. These conditions are anticipated to be completed by the end of June. Further details will be announced in due course."

United defender Rio Ferdinand added on his Twitter account: "Welcome to Shinji Kagawa for his transfer to Man Utd. heres to a succesful time here bro!"

Kagawa signed for Dortmund from Cerezo Osaka in 2010. He lifted the Bundesliga title in his first season at the club before helping them retain the trophy this season and also claim DFB-Pokal glory.

mr_missile
06-06-2012, 09:57 AM
United confirm Kagawa transfer

Manchester United have confirmed they will be signing Japan forward Shinji Kagawa from Borussia Dortmund, subject to a medical and work permit.

United have made their first signing of the summer after confirming they have "reached agreement" to buy 23-year-old Kagawa from the German Bundesliga champions.

Negotiations have been on-going with the Japan international for a number of weeks. The fee is reported to be £12million, rising to £17million depending on various clauses.

The transfer is subject to a medical and work permit, although this is thought to be a formality.

It is not anticipated the deal will be completed until the end of the month as Kagawa is currently on international duty and played in Japan's 3-0 World Cup qualifying round victory over Oman at the weekend.

"Manchester United is delighted to announce that it has agreed terms with both Borussia Dortmund and Shinji Kagawa for his transfer to the club," said a United statement.

"The deal is subject only to the player medical and obtaining a UK work permit. These conditions are anticipated to be completed by the end of June.

"Further details will be announced in due course."

Although the deal has been anticipated for some time, it is good news for United.

On Monday, Eden Hazard explained why he thought Chelsea had "a better project" than the Red Devils, who lost their Premier League crown to Manchester City in agonising fashion last month.

Many United fans are privately concerned about the funds being made available to Sir Alex Ferguson and felt strengthening the midfield area was an absolute imperative.

Kagawa has already done enough in his two seasons in Germany to avoid the fate of Park Ji-sung, who was initially condemned as a "trophy" signing following his arrival from PSV Eindhoven in 2005, designed purely to sell shirts in the lucrative Far East market.

He was named in the Bundesliga's team of the season for 2010-11 despite being absent through injury for half the campaign.

Kagawa then went on to score 16 goals last term, when Dortmund completed the domestic league and cup double.

Ferguson and assistant Mike Phelan made a personal check on the 23-year-old the day before United's final match at Sunderland, when they saw Kagawa grab one goal and create another in Dortmund's 5-2 German Cup triumph over Bayern Munich.

Defender Rio Ferdinand was quick to offer his best wishes on Twitter. "Welcome to Shinji Kagawa for his transfer to Man Utd," he said. "Here's to a succesful (sic) time here bro!"

mr_missile
08-06-2012, 04:47 PM
Transfer Gossips

The Sun says Luka Modric is going to United, who also wants to sign a striker....

MODRIC ON HIS WAY TO UNITED

This has of course been around for a while, and lots of papers (including the Daily Mirror on Thursday) sort of pussy-footed around it, couching it with all sorts of 'Will make a move for' or 'preparing a bid' caveats.

However, The Sun go balls out this morning with: 'LUKA MODRIC is on his way to Manchester United.'

Crivens. The paper reports that United have offered £25million rising to £30million, and will give Modric himself a four-year deal worth £26million. Crivens.

Interestingly, despite the balls out opening statement, there is no mention of Daniel Levy actually accepting the offer, and even contains the further caveat that Modric signed a six-year contract in May 2010, and said he had 'no intention of quitting Spurs.'

Apparently United also want Cheick Tiote and Leighton Baines, but aren't sure about the £20million asking prices for both.


ALSO, HENRIQUEZ

A busy summer for United, it seems.

After signing Shinji Kagawa and with the above deals in mind too, The Daily Mail reports that United have agreed a £3million fee with Universidad de Chile for 18-year-old striker Angelo Henriquez.

The youngster has eight goals in his ten games for the Chilean side, but there could be a few problems ahead yet:

'United hope to gain a work permit for the Universidad forward and will have to go down the 'special talent' route since he has not represented the senior international side.

'Should United suffer a setback in their application they would have to send him on loan to a club in Europe until he forces his way through to the national side.'

dc7176
09-06-2012, 11:17 AM
DONE DEAL: Man Utd agree £25M Modric terms with Tottenham

Manchester United are now finalising terms over a deal for Tottenham midfield schemer Luka Modric.

The Sun says all parties are in agreement: Modric is on his way to Old Trafford.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has offered Tottenham a £25million fee, rising to £30m based on appearances and success.

Modric, 26, will be handed a four-year deal worth £26m.

His wages of £125,000 a week will put him among the big earners at Old Trafford.

Modric has kept up to date with talks while at Euro 2012 with Croatia and will seal the move on his return.

Man Utd boss Ferguson spending won't end with Modric deal

Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson's big spending won't end with Tottenham star Luka Modric.

The Sun says all parties are in agreement: Modric is on his way to Old Trafford for a deal rising to £30m.

United boss Fergie signed Japanese star Shinji Kagawa this week and wants Newcastle’s Cheick Tiote and Everton left-back Leighton Baines — but refuses to match the £20m valuations on each.

dc7176
09-06-2012, 11:27 PM
Man Utd agree £16M Lewandowski deal with Borussia Dortmund

Manchester United have struck terms with Borussia Dortmund for striker Robert Lewandowski.

The Daily Star says United have agreed a £16m deal for the hotshot and will complete the deal after the tournament.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is hoping to pull off a similar coup to the one he achieved with Javier Hernandez.

The Old Trafford outfit snapped up the Mexico striker just before the 2010 World Cup when he went on to make a massive impact.

United are believed to have offered Lewandowski a four-year deal worth around £70,000 a week.

Fergie watched the 23-year-old hitman in action several times last season and wants him to link up with Wayne Rooney.

Fergie has already raided Dortmund for Japan sensation Shinji Kagawa, who has cost United £16m.

It is understood United bosses secured a similar deal for Lewandowski during negotiations with the Bundesliga champions for Kagawa.

mr_missile
22-06-2012, 12:09 PM
DONE DEAL: Man Utd agree £25M Modric terms with Tottenham

Man Utd agree £16M Lewandowski deal with Borussia Dortmund



bro, i don't think the modric and lewandowski deals are done leh. united's official website has only announced nick powell as a confirmed deal.

mr_missile
22-06-2012, 12:10 PM
Rodriguez set for Porto talks

James Rodriguez's agent has admitted he will hold talks with Porto over the winger's future amid fresh claims linking him to Manchester United.

Colombian winger Rodriguez is regarded as one of the brightest young talents in the game after a couple of impressive seasons with Porto and fresh reports have suggested that he is attracting the attention of other clubs.

United are understood to be keeping tabs on his situation and stories in the Portuguese press claim they have made an offer to Porto which has been rejected.

Rodriguez is thought to have a release clause of around £40million in the contract he signed only last year and Porto are standing firm as they want a good price for the 20-year-old.

Rodriguez's representative, Silvio Sandri, has remained coy about his client's future after being quizzed on the subject, but says he will be speaking to Porto soon.

"Really there does not exist any big news about this but it is a subject we need to analyse," Sandri is quoted as saying in O Jogo.

"In a couple of weeks I will fly to Portugal and I expect to have a meeting with the Porto directors to discuss the situation.

"I cannot offer more details because it is a very complex subject."

shysaint
23-06-2012, 05:38 PM
Kagawa seals Reds move

Manchester United announced earlier this month that an agreement with Borussia Dortmund had been reached for the transfer of Shinji Kagawa for an undisclosed fee.

The 23-year-old Japanese midfielder has now passed a medical, obtained a UK work permit and has agreed a four-year contract commencing 1 July 2012.

Sir Alex Ferguson is delighted to be bringing the midfielder to Old Trafford. He told ManUtd.com: “Shinji is an exciting young midfielder with great skill, vision and a good eye for goal. I am delighted he has chosen to come to United. I believe he will make an impact upon the team very quickly as he is suited to United’s style of play. We are all looking forward to working with him."

Kagawa himself can't wait to get started as a Red. He told us: “This is a challenge I am really looking forward to. The Premier League is the best league in the world and Manchester United is such a massive club. This is a really exciting time for me and I can’t wait to meet the team and start playing."

From Manutd.com

Manchester United complete Kagawa signing

The Japanese playmaker has signed a long-term contract with the Old Trafford club after successfully undergoing a medical and gaining a UK work permit.

Manchester United have announced the signing of Shinji Kagawa on a four-year deal.

United have now stated that the Japanese international has passed a medical and obtained a UK work permit.

Sir Alex Ferguson has spoken of his delight that the 23-year-old is on his way to the Red Devils.

"Shinji is an exciting young midfielder with great skill, vision and a good eye for goal," he told ManUtd.com.

"I am delighted he has chosen to come to United. I believe he will make an impact upon the team very quickly as he is suited to United's style of play.

"We are all looking forward to working with him."

Kagawa has also spoken of his excitement at getting started.

"This is a challenge I am really looking forward to," Kagawa told ManUtd.com.

"The Premier League is the best league in the world and Manchester United is such a massive club.

"This is a really exciting time for me and I can't wait to meet the team and start playing."

From Goal.com

shysaint
23-06-2012, 05:40 PM
UNITED BEAT RIVALS TO POWELL SIGNING

The Sweeper has learned that Manchester United beat Liverpool, Tottenham and Fulham in the race to sign wonderkid Nick Powell from Crewe Alexandra.

The 18-year-old forward signed a four-year contract with the Red Devils last week having helped Crewe secure promotion to League One following a play-off final win over Cheltenham.

It is understood that the Premier League trio all offered around the £2 million mark for the teenage sensation but were out-bid by United, who will pay £2m plus performance-related add-ons that could stretch the final deal beyond £4m.

Crewe began rebuffing enquiries from top-tier clubs for Powell at the start of the year but caved in when it became clear that the England Under-18 international made it known that he wanted to move to Old Trafford.

Despite the interest from Sir Alex Ferguson's side, Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester City all closely watched Powell but decided that the young playmaker was not right for them.

- Wayne Veysey

From Goal.com

et911
23-06-2012, 06:48 PM
I think Man Utd is losing its grip on EPL. Now Chelsea and Man City and even Tottenham is catching up.

I am wondering how did Chelsea catch up on the EPL.

Man City (I hate to admit this) and Spurs yes, but Chelsea?? Chelsea is DROPPING further behind, not catching up on the EPL.

JonnyC88
23-06-2012, 10:05 PM
Kagawa sounds like a great deal. Man Utd can probably recoup most of the transfer fee with the jersey sales from Asia.

mr_missile
25-06-2012, 10:35 AM
I am wondering how did Chelsea catch up on the EPL.

Man City (I hate to admit this) and Spurs yes, but Chelsea?? Chelsea is DROPPING further behind, not catching up on the EPL.

they just confirmed di matteo as manager and signed hazard which united wanted.

they have also let go of drogba, which means torres will be the main man from now. he will be supported by young english striker sturridge and porto's hulk is on chelski's radar.

a team made up of cech, terry, mata, hazard and torres as their spine will surely at least challange for a top 4 finish in the EPL i think. :)

shysaint
01-07-2012, 03:23 PM
they just confirmed di matteo as manager and signed hazard which united wanted.

He chooses CHelsea becasue of more playing opportunity ...

et911
02-07-2012, 08:57 AM
they just confirmed di matteo as manager and signed hazard which united wanted.
..
a team made up of cech, terry, mata, hazard and torres as their spine will surely at least challange for a top 4 finish in the EPL i think. :)

Actually I am glad we didnt get hazard, I never seen a player who whore himself to all the clubs. It is obvious it is only money he is after.

Chelsea's aging squad problem is even more serious than United's. With Drogba out and Lampard into his last season (even if they are around, they are old enough), I cannot see Hazard taking the responsibility of the whole team.

Even if Torres hits 20-30 goals next season, I cant see him replacing Anelka+Drogba. They need another striker, a very good striker.

Anyway, I am more concern about Man United. :p

et911
02-07-2012, 08:57 AM
He chooses CHelsea becasue of more playing opportunity ...

and more money.

mr_missile
03-07-2012, 08:36 AM
Anyway, I am more concern about Man United. :p

yeah bro. we all are. :)

just read that united has officially released owen, kuszczak and two other junior players.

we will need to bring in another striker not just to replace owen but most probably berba too. i don't think berbatov will stay on for another season on the bench.

rooney, wellback and chicharito will be the the main 3 strikers. i am hoping saf will give macheda his chance instead of loaning him out.

united's transfer rumours have it that saf is interested to add new boy kagawa's ex-dortmund teammate and polish striker lewandowski to the team.

mr_missile
03-07-2012, 08:45 AM
Rafael signs new United deal

Rafael has signed a new four-year contract with Manchester United, keeping the full-back at Old Trafford until the end of the 2015/16 season.

The 21-year-old Brazilian has been with the Red Devils since 2008, when he left Fluminense with twin brother Fabio to sign for United.

Rafael made 18 appearances last season in the Community Shield, Premier League, Carling Cup, FA Cup and Europa League.

United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has frequently spoken about his high hopes for the brothers and is delighted to have agreed terms with Rafael.

The Scot told the club's official website: "Rafael is one of the club's brightest young prospects; he has no fear of playing and has great belief in himself.

"The boy has developed immensely since joining United, his energy and enthusiasm are a joy to watch. Rafael has all the attributes to become one of the best full-backs in the world and I am delighted he has signed a new contract."

The right-back is equally pleased to have secured his future.

"I am so happy to sign a new contract," Rafael added. "I love playing for Manchester United, there is a great team spirit here and a real desire to win.

"My time here has been unbelievable; winning two league titles, a league cup and a Club World Cup has made me hungry for more trophies. I would like to thank Sir Alex for his belief in me and I would also like to thank the fans for their support."

shysaint
03-07-2012, 11:48 AM
02/07/2012 15:11, Report by Steve Bartram

Two Reds in Team GB

Tom Cleverley and Ryan Giggs have been named in Great Britain's football squad for the London 2012 Olympics.

Team GB coach Stuart Pearce named the United duo in his 18-man squad on Monday after a summer of deliberation. The team will kick off its campaign against Senegal at Old Trafford on 26 July.

Great Britain then faces United Arab Emirates at Wembley before rounding off its Group A campaign against Uruguay in Cardiff's Millennium Stadium.

The top two teams from each group along with the two best third place teams qualify for the quarter-finals. The tournament rounds off with the final at Wembley on 11 August.

Great Britain squad: Butland (Birmingham), Steele (Middlesbrough); Bertrand (Chelsea), Caulker (Tottenham), Dawson (West Brom), Richards (Man City), Rose (Tottenham), Taylor (Swansea), Tomkins (West Ham); Allen (Swansea), Cleverley (United), Cork (Southampton), Giggs (United), Ramsey (Arsenal); Bellamy (Liverpool), Sinclair (Swansea), Sordell (Bolton), Sturridge (Chelsea)

mr_missile
09-07-2012, 08:32 AM
Giggs will captain Team GB

Manchester United midfielder Ryan Giggs will captain the Team GB football side at the 2012 Olympics.

Giggs, one of three overage players in Stuart Pearce's 18-man squad, will be making his first appearance at a major tournament this summer after a lengthy and hugely successful club career.

The highly-decorated Welshman is proud to be representing Britain at the Games and believes he may well soon have another medal to add to his collection.

"Obviously it is a tremendous honour to be part of the Olympics," the 38-year-old said.

"Stuart has obviously given me the captaincy, which is even better so I am really looking forward to it.

"It is a unique experience and one from the start that I wanted to be part of when I got the opportunity.

"I think it just got more and more exciting as the Games got nearer and then when the squads were announced I was obviously really, really proud to be involved.

"We hope we can get gold. That is what the players are hoping for.

"The players are winners and want to do well. You want that gold medal.

"It is going to be tough because a lot of the other nations have picked good players and have got good team.

"It is going to be tough, but we have a good chance."

Giggs had been expected to feature for Team GB alongside former United team-mate David Beckham this summer, but the LA Galaxy midfielder was conspicuous by his absence when the squad was unveiled.

"It is disappointing for David, obviously not being involved," Giggs said of his omission.

"As a friend I am disappointed for him but as a player you just get on with it and just try to enjoy the experience and that is what I am trying to do."

Giggs was also quick to turn attention back to football when asked about the politics surrounding Team GB.

Much had been made of the reluctance of the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish associations to give their blessing to the unified GB team.

As it is, no players have been selected from Scotland or Northern Ireland, although five Welshman, including Giggs, have included in the 18-man squad.

"All I have seen [is what is] in the press, really," Giggs said. "As a player and a Welshman, I just wanted to involved.

"Just like the Welsh lads involved, they're Welsh but we just wanted an opportunity to play for Great Britain in an Olympics on home turf so I think it was a chance we couldn't turn down.

"It was one we're excited about and if other people want to disagree with then that's their prerogative, but as a player I am excited and can't wait."

mr_missile
10-07-2012, 09:25 AM
Loftus Road life for Park

South Korea midfielder Park Ji-sung has joined QPR from Manchester United for an undisclosed fee, signing a two-year deal at Loftus Road.

The 31-year-old is manager Mark Hughes' sixth summer capture, joining Ryan Nelsen, Andy Johnson, Rob Green, Samba Diakite and former Old Trafford team-mate Fabio at Loftus Road.

The ambitious club also claim his signing will "put the QPR brand on a global scale", heading up their attempts to break into the Asian market.

Rangers, promoted in 2011, only escaped relegation from the Premier League on the final day of last season and are determined to avoid a similar struggle next term.

Park leaves United after seven years, during which time he made 203 appearances and scored 27 goals, winning four Premier League titles and the Champions League in 2008.

Hughes said: "On a football level, Ji is someone I have admired from afar for years.

"He wore the red shirt of Manchester United in a distinguished way and he will bring a great deal to the team, I can't wait to start working with him.

"Ji is a motivated guy, he feels there is success ahead of him, he ticks every box. It's a very exciting time for QPR.

"I said at the end of the season we didn't want to be in the same position next season and I stand by that, we are in a better place now."

Park, who arrived in England from PSV Eindhoven in 2005, added: "I know QPR want to improve and have ambitions to reach the next level and I will try my best to help.

"There were other offers but nothing compared to QPR."

yinyang
10-07-2012, 12:43 PM
Loftus Road life for Park

South Korea midfielder Park Ji-sung has joined QPR from Manchester United for an undisclosed fee, signing a two-year deal at Loftus Road."
Good for both ends. After lasting 7 seasons, it's also shelf life with some return on investment at 2mil

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18750029

mr_missile
10-07-2012, 01:13 PM
Good for both ends. After lasting 7 seasons, it's also shelf life with some return on investment at 2mil



the fee may rise up to 5m pounds eventually.

yup. good for park as he needs more playing time and he will get it at qpr. he may even captain them as the reports are saying so far. he's definitely a better captain than barton. still can't forget that he got himself sent off in the game agst city at the end of last season. :mad:

good for united as we got him for only 4m and more importantly, it allows younger players to move up.

dream888
10-07-2012, 10:29 PM
Latest gossip for our new Man Utd Star

http://sg.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/fit-to-post-sports/shinji-kagawa-pornstar-wag-ameri-ichinose-090416853.html

dc7176
11-07-2012, 02:57 PM
Latest gossip for our new Man Utd Star

http://sg.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/fit-to-post-sports/shinji-kagawa-pornstar-wag-ameri-ichinose-090416853.html


She do Raw!! Uncensored!! :eek:

Ameri Ichinose AV link (http://www.thisav.com/video/12272/catwalk-poison-46--%28ae%80%83%8E%80%82%83%83-ameri-ichinose%29.html)

Time to PCC!!!

Getting ready for a new Man Utd Adult Video... :rolleyes::o

dc7176
11-07-2012, 02:59 PM
Loftus Road life for Park

South Korea midfielder Park Ji-sung has joined QPR from Manchester United for an undisclosed fee, signing a two-year deal at Loftus Road.



Thank You Park!! All the best!!

mr_missile
17-07-2012, 08:43 AM
Captain Giggs gutted for Fletcher

Ryan Giggs believes Darren Fletcher would have been in contention for a Team GB spot had it not been for the illness which is hampering him.

Manchester United midfielder Fletcher, suffering with a chronic bowel condition, was forced to take an indefinite break from football in December and is yet to return to training at Old Trafford.

An enforced spell out of action means he was unable to stake a claim for a place in Stuart Pearce's 18-man squad for the 2012 Olympics.

No Scots have made the British squad, but Giggs feels Fletcher would have been a serious contender for an over-age spot had he been fully fit.

The Welsh midfielder, who hopes his club colleague will soon be back in action, said: "Fletch is concentrating on trying to get fit for United so I don't think he would have been thinking too much about missing out on this.

"Hopefully he will just start training and playing again because he is a talent and a really important player for both United and Scotland.

"But I'm sure if he had been playing regularly then Stuart would have had a decision to make because he definitely would have been in the reckoning."

Giggs, who has been named Team GB skipper, is gearing up for his first outing at a major international tournament and admits claiming a gold medal on home soil would rank alongside anything he has achieved so far in his glittering club career.

"I don't like to prioritise medals because every single one means something special," he said. "But, of course, this would be different because you never thought you'd be competing in an Olympics.

"To win a gold medal would be special."

mr_missile
17-07-2012, 08:45 AM
She do Raw!! Uncensored!! :eek:

Ameri Ichinose AV link (http://www.thisav.com/video/12272/catwalk-poison-46--%28ae%80%83%8E%80%82%83%83-ameri-ichinose%29.html)

Time to PCC!!!

Getting ready for a new Man Utd Adult Video... :rolleyes::o

just hope kagawa's legs don't go jelly-like from too much bonking! :D

shysaint
21-07-2012, 09:25 AM
Soccernet.com

By Harry Harris, Football Correspondent

ESPN understands that Manchester United's bid for Arsenal striker Robin van Persie may have been as low as £12.5 million.

• Juve chief hints RVP may cost too much
• RVP seeks swift resolution
• Transfer Blog: On the Move

Van Persie, 28, revealed this month that he does not intend to sign a new contract with Arsenal, with his current deal due to expire in the summer of 2013.

The Netherlands international said his ambitions were not matched by the Gunners, and interest in signing him has subsequently increased.

The BBC had suggested on Friday that Manchester United, Manchester City and Juventus have made offers in the region of £15 million for Van Persie, although Arsenal want a fee nearer £30 million.

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson later confirmed that the Red Devils had, indeed, made an offer for the Dutch striker.

Speaking to MUTV, Ferguson said: "Obviously Arsenal have given out the fact that we've made a bid for him. We try to keep business as close as possible to us until the moment we conclude a deal. There's no point talking about something that might not happen.

"There are other clubs interested in the player. We've shown an interest and that's where we're at at the moment."

Arsene Wenger is thought to be furious that he is being backed into a corner by the club captain and if the Gunners choose to make a stand, they will demand at least double the price United may have so far offered.

Speculation is rife that the clubs are bidding low in the knowledge that Van Persie is making his future at Emirates Stadium untenable.

Manutd.com

20/07/2012 17:35, Report by A Marshall & N Coppack

Boss confirms van Persie bid

Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed making a bid for Arsenal captain Robin van Persie.

The Gunners' skipper has refused to sign a new contract at the Emirates Stadium and is also said to be interesting Juventus and Manchester City.

"Obviously Arsenal have given out the fact that we've made a bid for him," Sir Alex told MUTV.

"We try to keep business as close as possible to us until the moment we conclude a deal. There's no point talking about something that might not happen.

"There are other clubs interested in the player. We've shown an interest and that's where we're at at the moment."

machoman
21-07-2012, 12:47 PM
New Jerseys for Season 2012/13 ( Home )

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01550/manutdkit3_1550173a.jpg

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01506/RIO_532x825_1506779a.jpg