WeChat Scam

[newyorker88]

Golden rule of cash on delivery applies, never trust payment upfront

[pokagreentea]

Originally Posted by Presidental

they are 100% real girls but they are 100% scammers too.

I Kenna and luckily i smart enough to get my money back.

Mode of operation :
On wechat nearby (i doubt they really in spore at all).

See chio bu, we chee hong guys will proceed to add.

On the same day i taking a flight out of sg, i happen to add many at changi airport.

Few days later one by one reply me and say they at hk. Must be i added them when then in spore and they just return to hk.

Chatted with two.

One was too eager show hand too quickly, ( call her GIRL ONE ) Same day say she doing investment etc.
Smell something fishy so say good luck to her. Didn't msg her much but still keep her on wechat list to see pics etc.

Another one was way smarter.
Really small talk and say she want down to earth man.
Want love. Want a good happy family most important.
Chatted for a few weeks never hint what she doing at all.
Feel she just a simple girl (VERY CHIO again) , and ho seh liao, got chance to hook...

On her wechat, she will show her "fake visiting old folks home pic" every Saturday for a few weeks.
Pics are real but she isn't inside or pic are big group pic, zoom in everyone looks blur.
Her claim is pic taken today at some charity organisations TODAY.
(did some csi on those pic at later stage and realise all are few yrs ago pic posted online)

So Slowly say she doing investment and by then already calls and video call (verified its her) often, and ask me want her help me of not. Without thinking much, thought its real love and can trust her, I did a posb overseas transfer to her company account.

Everything look very legitimate .Need scan passport, nric, etc.

Account was indeed open under my name via a company ALLIED VICTORY GOLD & SILVER INVESTMENT LTD ( http://abullion.hk )

fund was in. i was given a USER ID and password.

Of course as a love scam (i trust her completely tio bo?) , so i told her she help me to invest and make money.
She keep saying once make enough money, she use the profit to fly to spore spend time with me.

Of course she also told me she sometimes authorised by her company to come Singapore to SIGN SOME CONTRACT with some clients, which I thought, ho seh liao, she come to me in spore i wont be scam all the way at HK .. hahaa she keep hinting she will come over as soon as make some good profit.

Then one day, I happen to see wechat moment..

The post by GIRL ONE and GIRL TWO was one after another.. Both showing a same record of some profit they had traded for some guy in their company, trying to lure others like me..

I thought to myself, knn two different girl why post same RECORDS of transaction.

I started to dig, about the company and this two girl.

Company is a real company in HK, deal with trading gold and metals etc.
I dig further and realised many other guys kenna the same trick by this so called brokers!!

1. first they make u fall for them.
2. then ask u open account.
3. then as their BF, you will authorise them to TRADE on your behalf !!??
now come the magic part of the scam..

u think they be expert trying to put in good trades to make u money,
but no lor.. they just anyhow trade and the more transaction there is, the more commission they make.
when everything is gone, they ask u to top up and say next round sure make back.

By the time u at this stage, can say bye bye to your money. Officially they didnt do anything illegal.

this has been going on for quite a few years, and it seems Singaporean cheehong man, like myself, are easy targets.

from website : https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail...=291&t=4844113

分享我個人經驗, 我遇到一位匯凱XX....以投資黃金為主的操盤員, 她常PO出黃金進出場的獲利多少來吸引你投資的慾望, 讓你覺得把資金交給他投資應該不會有問題, 可以有多增加一筆收入, 她們通常要求客戶給予他們權限以便操盤, 授權代理人進行交易。大部分的人只著眼賺更多的錢，而忽視了代理人和交易的佣金收入有密不可分的關係，在不 理價格的情況下不斷進行買賣，使他們的佣金收入增加，而客戶將一無所得，最後落得慘敗的下場。之後，投資代 理人怪罪於市場波動太大, 資金不足無法防守, 所以才會導致虧損, 最後會承諾只要再加碼投資，他便可以追回本金，更可連本帶利一併帶回來…但這都是謊言....只會讓你將錢 投進一個無底洞, 一開始自己會認為是自己運氣不好, 但最近上網才看到其他篇文章與我發生相同的情形, 因此這就是另一種特殊形式的詐騙, 在這趕緊發文希望不要在有人上當了!


From another website : Love scam from hongkong Gold trading brokers.

to those who still believe, hahaha good luck to you.


Meaning to write this for a few months, just that a bro asking about it, so i think better warn others asap.

Sorry for such a lengthy post.

Too bad, i fell into this trap 2 month before u post this. But am really glad u share this around.

Yes. They are a legally registered company, and they make u sign all the legal document stating how much comission they will get and the authorization to let them do trading on ur behalf. Initially there was some profit, but ended up losing in negative. Even ask me to top up more than my initial investment sum and use the tatic of "dont u trust me anymore or have faith in me, i could double ur profit and i just need this one last chance to prove to u"

I believe they are amateur broker who hold meeting everyday to hear the story of what their senior/bosses say and pass down the info to us to make us invest more. Basically, to me the info are kind of useless and based on speculation using history, nothing fundamental to support anything at all which is not in line with my investment style. I believe even a toddler humtum also can give better result on whether the gold price rises or fall.

Lesson learnt :
Make ur own investment so we can blame no one but ownself. I learnt it the hardway losing up to 5 digit..
They are a smart group of people who uses beauty and knowledge to entice guys, there are alot more of these kind of gold investment firm coming up and they earn money regardless of whether u earn/loses as their comission is based on each trading they do for u, so they have no responsibilities on ur hardearn money. If u look deeper, their comission could eventually eat up all the earning u stand to gain if the comission percentage is higher than the suppose profit gain.
I could have done more with the amount lost and have great fun in Geylang. 10000sgd divide by 150per shot is 66 visit, which could have lasted me 16month if i choose to visit on a weekly basis. It was a hard lesson learnt.
Everything they did was legit and i believe i could not get back any money as all the legal document are in place.

I do hope the Bros here would do their own investment if they could. If not, have a proper meetup with the person introducing u the product and know more about it before investing. And to limit urself to the amount invested, dont catch a falling knife.

Lastly, the girl even send a personal printed cup with picture of herself to me by courier all the way from HK in hope of easing my anger and losing all my money. That was the most expensive cup i ever had and a painful one to even use or see.

Cheers and have a nice day.

[lonelywolf]

That is indeed a very expensive lesson to learn .

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by adonis

These scammers are likely in PRC. I must add that the M'sian Police once busted and arrested a syndicate of PRC or were they Taiwanese scammers (I cun't remember) operating in Malaysia. Since they're busy at work, I guess this must be a profitable enterprise for them.

Ow Hong Long is under china. These so call HK girls, you think they are girls? Probably guys at the keyboard. Ever chat with such people about doing business w them, they provided real items, real address n so on. Too bad, I am in the line to know certain rules apply and they cannot export out the items, yet they are so convincing. End of the day, my partner fell for it, I warned him. Lost a few thousand, and got into trouble w the law. The gals? Probably laughing to the banks.

[nex_terday]

Originally Posted by Presidental

they are 100% real girls but they are 100% scammers too.

I Kenna and luckily i smart enough to get my money back.

Mode of operation :
On wechat nearby (i doubt they really in spore at all).

See chio bu, we chee hong guys will proceed to add.

On the same day i taking a flight out of sg, i happen to add many at changi airport.

Few days later one by one reply me and say they at hk. Must be i added them when then in spore and they just return to hk.

Chatted with two.

One was too eager show hand too quickly, ( call her GIRL ONE ) Same day say she doing investment etc.
Smell something fishy so say good luck to her. Didn't msg her much but still keep her on wechat list to see pics etc.

Another one was way smarter.
Really small talk and say she want down to earth man.
Want love. Want a good happy family most important.
Chatted for a few weeks never hint what she doing at all.
Feel she just a simple girl (VERY CHIO again) , and ho seh liao, got chance to hook...

On her wechat, she will show her "fake visiting old folks home pic" every Saturday for a few weeks.
Pics are real but she isn't inside or pic are big group pic, zoom in everyone looks blur.
Her claim is pic taken today at some charity organisations TODAY.
(did some csi on those pic at later stage and realise all are few yrs ago pic posted online)

So Slowly say she doing investment and by then already calls and video call (verified its her) often, and ask me want her help me of not. Without thinking much, thought its real love and can trust her, I did a posb overseas transfer to her company account.

Everything look very legitimate .Need scan passport, nric, etc.

Account was indeed open under my name via a company ALLIED VICTORY GOLD & SILVER INVESTMENT LTD ( http://abullion.hk )

fund was in. i was given a USER ID and password.

Of course as a love scam (i trust her completely tio bo?) , so i told her she help me to invest and make money.
She keep saying once make enough money, she use the profit to fly to spore spend time with me.

Of course she also told me she sometimes authorised by her company to come Singapore to SIGN SOME CONTRACT with some clients, which I thought, ho seh liao, she come to me in spore i wont be scam all the way at HK .. hahaa she keep hinting she will come over as soon as make some good profit.

Then one day, I happen to see wechat moment..

The post by GIRL ONE and GIRL TWO was one after another.. Both showing a same record of some profit they had traded for some guy in their company, trying to lure others like me..

I thought to myself, knn two different girl why post same RECORDS of transaction.

I started to dig, about the company and this two girl.

Company is a real company in HK, deal with trading gold and metals etc.
I dig further and realised many other guys kenna the same trick by this so called brokers!!

1. first they make u fall for them.
2. then ask u open account.
3. then as their BF, you will authorise them to TRADE on your behalf !!??
now come the magic part of the scam..

u think they be expert trying to put in good trades to make u money,
but no lor.. they just anyhow trade and the more transaction there is, the more commission they make.
when everything is gone, they ask u to top up and say next round sure make back.

By the time u at this stage, can say bye bye to your money. Officially they didnt do anything illegal.

this has been going on for quite a few years, and it seems Singaporean cheehong man, like myself, are easy targets.

from website : https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail...=291&t=4844113

分享我個人經驗, 我遇到一位匯凱XX....以投資黃金為主的操盤員, 她常PO出黃金進出場的獲利多少來吸引你投資的慾望, 讓你覺得把資金交給他投資應該不會有問題, 可以有多增加一筆收入, 她們通常要求客戶給予他們權限以便操盤, 授權代理人進行交易。大部分的人只著眼賺更多的錢，而忽視了代理人和交易的佣金收入有密不可分的關係，在不 理價格的情況下不斷進行買賣，使他們的佣金收入增加，而客戶將一無所得，最後落得慘敗的下場。之後，投資代 理人怪罪於市場波動太大, 資金不足無法防守, 所以才會導致虧損, 最後會承諾只要再加碼投資，他便可以追回本金，更可連本帶利一併帶回來…但這都是謊言....只會讓你將錢 投進一個無底洞, 一開始自己會認為是自己運氣不好, 但最近上網才看到其他篇文章與我發生相同的情形, 因此這就是另一種特殊形式的詐騙, 在這趕緊發文希望不要在有人上當了!


From another website : Love scam from hongkong Gold trading brokers.

to those who still believe, hahaha good luck to you.


Meaning to write this for a few months, just that a bro asking about it, so i think better warn others asap.

Sorry for such a lengthy post.

Thank so bro for the warning. I had a few of them on WeChat over the months but nothing happened and deleted them. Then about 2 weeks ago, added another one from people nearby. She replied quite quickly but said she back to Hong Kong. I was thinking she meant she still in SG and already at Changi Airport or something. Chatted for some time on and off over the next few hours and I was wondering how she could still do that when she should be on the plane by now.
A few days later, subject came to her work and she said she dealt in gold trading. Even sent me a photo of her name card, from Sky Million Group Ltd, Senior Business Manager. Not my kind of investment but her photos showed her huge, and I meant huge jugs and pretty face. She asked whether I was coming to HK and I replied no, but may go to Shenzhen. Without hesitation, she said she can go over to SZ to meet me and tell me more about gold trading and let me sign up to open an account. Big bait.
Then just yesterday, saw her on people nearby around Bugis. Took a screen shot and sent it to her and asked her if she was in SG but she replied she was in HK and sent me her location. I was really puzzled how that could happen.
I remember reading somewhere in sbf that you could set your location to another place through some means and fool people you are somewhere else. Otherwise how could she appear here in SG when she is supposed to be in HK. WeChat ID sasayling
Up you 12 for your warning

[jay.lay]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

Golden rule of cash on delivery applies, never trust payment upfront

up u 8 bro

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by jay.lay

up u 8 bro

Wait for me to power up

[Presidental]

Originally Posted by Presidental

they are 100% real girls but they are 100% scammers too.

I Kenna and luckily i smart enough to get my money back.

Mode of operation :
On wechat nearby (i doubt they really in spore at all).

See chio bu, we chee hong guys will proceed to add.

On the same day i taking a flight out of sg, i happen to add many at changi airport.

Few days later one by one reply me and say they at hk. Must be i added them when then in spore and they just return to hk.

Chatted with two.

One was too eager show hand too quickly, ( call her GIRL ONE ) Same day say she doing investment etc.
Smell something fishy so say good luck to her. Didn't msg her much but still keep her on wechat list to see pics etc.

Another one was way smarter.
Really small talk and say she want down to earth man.
Want love. Want a good happy family most important.
Chatted for a few weeks never hint what she doing at all.
Feel she just a simple girl (VERY CHIO again) , and ho seh liao, got chance to hook...

On her wechat, she will show her "fake visiting old folks home pic" every Saturday for a few weeks.
Pics are real but she isn't inside or pic are big group pic, zoom in everyone looks blur.
Her claim is pic taken today at some charity organisations TODAY.
(did some csi on those pic at later stage and realise all are few yrs ago pic posted online)

So Slowly say she doing investment and by then already calls and video call (verified its her) often, and ask me want her help me of not. Without thinking much, thought its real love and can trust her, I did a posb overseas transfer to her company account.

Everything look very legitimate .Need scan passport, nric, etc.

Account was indeed open under my name via a company ALLIED VICTORY GOLD & SILVER INVESTMENT LTD ( http://abullion.hk )

fund was in. i was given a USER ID and password.

Of course as a love scam (i trust her completely tio bo?) , so i told her she help me to invest and make money.
She keep saying once make enough money, she use the profit to fly to spore spend time with me.

Of course she also told me she sometimes authorised by her company to come Singapore to SIGN SOME CONTRACT with some clients, which I thought, ho seh liao, she come to me in spore i wont be scam all the way at HK .. hahaa she keep hinting she will come over as soon as make some good profit.

Then one day, I happen to see wechat moment..

The post by GIRL ONE and GIRL TWO was one after another.. Both showing a same record of some profit they had traded for some guy in their company, trying to lure others like me..

I thought to myself, knn two different girl why post same RECORDS of transaction.

I started to dig, about the company and this two girl.

Company is a real company in HK, deal with trading gold and metals etc.
I dig further and realised many other guys kenna the same trick by this so called brokers!!

1. first they make u fall for them.
2. then ask u open account.
3. then as their BF, you will authorise them to TRADE on your behalf !!??
now come the magic part of the scam..

u think they be expert trying to put in good trades to make u money,
but no lor.. they just anyhow trade and the more transaction there is, the more commission they make.
when everything is gone, they ask u to top up and say next round sure make back.

By the time u at this stage, can say bye bye to your money. Officially they didnt do anything illegal.

this has been going on for quite a few years, and it seems Singaporean cheehong man, like myself, are easy targets.

from website : https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail...=291&t=4844113

分享我個人經驗, 我遇到一位匯凱XX....以投資黃金為主的操盤員, 她常PO出黃金進出場的獲利多少來吸引你投資的慾望, 讓你覺得把資金交給他投資應該不會有問題, 可以有多增加一筆收入, 她們通常要求客戶給予他們權限以便操盤, 授權代理人進行交易。大部分的人只著眼賺更多的錢，而忽視了代理人和交易的佣金收入有密不可分的關係，在不 理價格的情況下不斷進行買賣，使他們的佣金收入增加，而客戶將一無所得，最後落得慘敗的下場。之後，投資代 理人怪罪於市場波動太大, 資金不足無法防守, 所以才會導致虧損, 最後會承諾只要再加碼投資，他便可以追回本金，更可連本帶利一併帶回來…但這都是謊言....只會讓你將錢 投進一個無底洞, 一開始自己會認為是自己運氣不好, 但最近上網才看到其他篇文章與我發生相同的情形, 因此這就是另一種特殊形式的詐騙, 在這趕緊發文希望不要在有人上當了!


From another website : Love scam from hongkong Gold trading brokers.

to those who still believe, hahaha good luck to you.


Meaning to write this for a few months, just that a bro asking about it, so i think better warn others asap.

Sorry for such a lengthy post.

to add on, i didn't sign the authorisation to trade like some Bro did. I play the mind games with her back, letting her think i got more money at later stage for her to con, so she didn't touch my cash so fast.

I read online about similar happening by then, so i quickly smoke the girl and say my father got heart attack and need money urgently, next time when my fix deposit money come back Next month I invest more etc.

I believe she think i got more money to con next month thus didn't touch my money.

I contacted the company thru their online chat ( customer service) and request immediate remittance of all my money back to spore. They did manage to do it within a day or two, Heng they quite efficient. Haha.

Of cos before that i change my password first before the girl can do anything.

Few days later she found out I change password she very angry but i just pretend i don't know anything until i have back all my money, minus the currency exchange losses amounting to sgd300++

I very Heng liao.

To all those Bro who kenna similar story,
Pls make some effort to write your story,

At least post those companies 's name to warn other bros who may be doing a search on those and let them be warn.

These con man really treat as sinkies like easy prey and idiot.

I admit we are gullible + chee hong.

Abit of me think it's karma, for all the girls i up throughout the playing years. Haha

Life goes around in a circle..

P.s: anyone got girl keen in diff room swing, Pls pte msg me.
Couple swing but swap in diff hotel rooms. Haha

[Jay Chou]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

Wait for me to power up

Up u bro. 😊

[MVP24]

wa thanks for sharing!

[stolensocks]

Usually talk cock with them when free, waste their time la

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by stolensocks

Usually talk cock with them when free, waste their time la

Waste their time? Hahaha. They are wasting theirs also. Waiting for the day when they get caught

[JustANewbie]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

Golden rule of cash on delivery applies, never trust payment upfront

Great advice!

[tatata21]

Originally Posted by stolensocks

Usually talk cock with them when free, waste their time la

lol you got a lot of time to waste meh?

Generally if you see those, part-time study want to earn extra $, money/gold investor, you can forget about it. Unless you really think you have too much time. They also can tell if you are easy to cheat most of the times.

The real girls are mostly masseur or locals.

Then there are a few proper girls, mostly locals, who won't anyhow entertain odd messages.

In conclusion, only wechat people you already know to optimise time. Save time and money bros.

[owen10]

Originally Posted by Presidental

they are 100% real girls but they are 100% scammers too.

I Kenna and luckily i smart enough to get my money back.

Mode of operation :
On wechat nearby (i doubt they really in spore at all).

....

Thanks for the lengthy but very insightful FR.
Hope it serves as a good warning to all bros here.

so did u get to meet the gal personally or everything was done online?
when i try to pretend to ask d gal(s) if free, their excuses mostly same. i.e they goin back that day or next day.

so common to see more on WC lately. the gals use same tactics. post pics in FB showing statement how much they made for their clients that day, gifts fr clients after they help them make $$$$, etc.