STDs

[ssd3469]

Originally Posted by SadLoser

Bro I wish to emphasize one thing here- there is nothing wrong with visiting a prostitute. Dun always harbour that mindset like oh I am "forced" to visit a prostitute cos I was rejected by many women or my life is stuck in a terrible state hence I am visiting prostitutes etc. You can be a millionaire today with a trophy wife, but still visit a prostitute.

In my years of cheonging at GL, I have seen all sort of people visiting prostitutes - from doctors to lawyers to CEO. Have you read the case about the underage prostitute who lied about her age and all her clients were exposed. Many of her clients are high profile successful people like school principal, rich businessmen etc. So rich or poor, married or single, many men are visiting prostitutes for a variety of reasons.

My point here is stop berating yourself emotionally. Visiting prostitutes as an outlet for your frustrations is a form of therapy too. If you are going to spend money to make yourself happy, then might as well embrace it fully!

Lastly, its perfectly normal to visit prostitutes but if you are getting health anxiety/concerns, pls do see a doctor (as advised by many bros here). And take the necessary precautions in future so you dun need to worry about such stuff after every session.

I know that some men find friends with benefits when they are not ready for a committed relationship hence by this logic finding a prostitute is not wrong, but because of what I said earlier(that sex is something intimate that should not be casuaully done with strangers), I maintain that it is wrong. Btw going by what I said FWB is not wrong because friend is not stranger...though I have also kept rejecting the idea during growing up years as my conservative upbringing rejected casual sex.

[ssd3469]

Originally Posted by SadLoser

Bro I wish to emphasize one thing here- there is nothing wrong with visiting a prostitute. Dun always harbour that mindset like oh I am "forced" to visit a prostitute cos I was rejected by many women or my life is stuck in a terrible state hence I am visiting prostitutes etc. You can be a millionaire today with a trophy wife, but still visit a prostitute.

In my years of cheonging at GL, I have seen all sort of people visiting prostitutes - from doctors to lawyers to CEO. Have you read the case about the underage prostitute who lied about her age and all her clients were exposed. Many of her clients are high profile successful people like school principal, rich businessmen etc. So rich or poor, married or single, many men are visiting prostitutes for a variety of reasons.

My point here is stop berating yourself emotionally. Visiting prostitutes as an outlet for your frustrations is a form of therapy too. If you are going to spend money to make yourself happy, then might as well embrace it fully!

Lastly, its perfectly normal to visit prostitutes but if you are getting health anxiety/concerns, pls do see a doctor (as advised by many bros here). And take the necessary precautions in future so you dun need to worry about such stuff after every session.

Also, I am sure you have heard of stories like women going on to become prostitutes due to bad family circumstances(financial etc.) Or people going to on to try drugs or smoking(albeit once or twice only) or commit crimes due to hanging out with wrong group. That's why I say I was forced.

[ssd3469]

Originally Posted by SadLoser

Bro I wish to emphasize one thing here- there is nothing wrong with visiting a prostitute. Dun always harbour that mindset like oh I am "forced" to visit a prostitute cos I was rejected by many women or my life is stuck in a terrible state hence I am visiting prostitutes etc. You can be a millionaire today with a trophy wife, but still visit a prostitute.

In my years of cheonging at GL, I have seen all sort of people visiting prostitutes - from doctors to lawyers to CEO. Have you read the case about the underage prostitute who lied about her age and all her clients were exposed. Many of her clients are high profile successful people like school principal, rich businessmen etc. So rich or poor, married or single, many men are visiting prostitutes for a variety of reasons.

My point here is stop berating yourself emotionally. Visiting prostitutes as an outlet for your frustrations is a form of therapy too. If you are going to spend money to make yourself happy, then might as well embrace it fully!

Lastly, its perfectly normal to visit prostitutes but if you are getting health anxiety/concerns, pls do see a doctor (as advised by many bros here). And take the necessary precautions in future so you dun need to worry about such stuff after every session.

Point is I am different from other bros who went prostitutes because some already went at age 18/19 during NSF, for me I am already 33/34 with no options of women. For them they have options with women or at least had time and potential on their side.

[ssd3469]

Originally Posted by SadLoser

Bro I wish to emphasize one thing here- there is nothing wrong with visiting a prostitute. Dun always harbour that mindset like oh I am "forced" to visit a prostitute cos I was rejected by many women or my life is stuck in a terrible state hence I am visiting prostitutes etc. You can be a millionaire today with a trophy wife, but still visit a prostitute.

In my years of cheonging at GL, I have seen all sort of people visiting prostitutes - from doctors to lawyers to CEO. Have you read the case about the underage prostitute who lied about her age and all her clients were exposed. Many of her clients are high profile successful people like school principal, rich businessmen etc. So rich or poor, married or single, many men are visiting prostitutes for a variety of reasons.

My point here is stop berating yourself emotionally. Visiting prostitutes as an outlet for your frustrations is a form of therapy too. If you are going to spend money to make yourself happy, then might as well embrace it fully!

Lastly, its perfectly normal to visit prostitutes but if you are getting health anxiety/concerns, pls do see a doctor (as advised by many bros here). And take the necessary precautions in future so you dun need to worry about such stuff after every session.

Btw I have a side question, when you have a gf and bring your gf to your house, do your parents allow you to bring her to your room? Cause you all might do hanky panky inside, and how do you all circumvent it? Thanks.

[elt0n]

Originally Posted by ssd3469

Btw the prostitute may accidentally make a small tear on your penis head during bbbj with her teeth, I think it is dangerous as HIV and other bacteria can spread through that cause that is cosidered an open wound. I almost got or got an open wound that's why it led me to have this suspicion.

Your dick and her mouth must have a gushing wound and she needs to be infected before it can happen. In this case, you wouldn’t even be proceeding with the sex. Saliva contains many enzymes that destroy the reactors of the virus rendering it unable to infect. That’s why bbbj has virtually zero risk of contacting the virus in real life.

[ssd3469]

Originally Posted by elt0n

Your dick and her mouth must have a gushing wound and she needs to be infected before it can happen. In this case, you wouldn’t even be proceeding with the sex. Saliva contains many enzymes that destroy the reactors of the virus rendering it unable to infect. That’s why bbbj has virtually zero risk of contacting the virus in real life.

oh ya I forgot her mouth needs wound also, what is gushing wound? Means big wound? Why do you say we wouldn't even be proceeding with the sex?

[elt0n]

Originally Posted by ssd3469

oh ya I forgot her mouth needs wound also, what is gushing wound? Means big wound? Why do you say we wouldn't even be proceeding with the sex?

the wound needs to be a very deep cut with blood gushing out from your dick and her mouth for sufficient blood and surface area for the virus to transmit. that is considering that the virus reactors are not damaged by enzymes in the saliva. if there’s such a big wound you would be visiting a hospital and not a whore.

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[junmin95]

Originally Posted by ssd3469

I am curious has anyone set up a thread to discuss about STD before? And possibly make it sticky because of the importance of this. I am currently suffering from an yeast infection just from BBBJ, what medicine can I get over the counter from Guardian store? If I see a doctor will he chide me or scold me for visiting a prostitute? Polyclinic or GP is a better option for STD? If I see polyclinic will he refer me to soewhere else? Really regret chionging. Thanks in advance for answers bros.

yeast infection is not from STD but rather your own hygiene la come on. even a woman without std can give you yeast infection by sex/ bbbj if you/her hygiene not good.

BBBJ generally introduce many kinds of bacteria as mouth itself got their own set of bacteria ecosystem. That's why after bbbj must wash your kkj with warm clean water and mild shower gel to clear out the germs.

this kind of thread only mislead those first time have sex then come here read all the scary nonsense.

Or stick to HJ / CBJ la.

Originally Posted by ssd3469

I keep watching dating tutorial everyday for the past 6 years in the hope of getting a gf but it does not work. Do you know how painful it is? That's why in the end I went to visit a prostitute. I suspect because it has got to do with my otaku/宅男 lifestyle that's why I can't get a gf despite watching a lot of dating tutorials in the past 6 years.

i know what's your problem. you spend your time watching useless dating tutorial instead of finding out how to improve your career.

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Proper advice for those first time readers:

If you have HJ (no bodily fluids) and she suck your nipple / neck - Don't bother test. No risk of STDs at all.

If you have covered (condom) BJ - If you have more than 1 such sessions, I would suggest an annual test as a standard. But only done it once, aiya then don't bother because the risk of getting STD with purely covered BJ is damm damm low.

If you have BBBJ and/or Covered FJ and/or AR (lick kar chng) - Wait 3 months and take STD test at DSC clinic. Make appointment at least 2 weeks before the actual date so that won't cluster f*** the clinic. If you want, can also do at private clinic. Regardless which clinic you go, no doctor will scold you. Doctors are not your parents. They are just medical professionals trying to help you and by profession should not judge you on your sexual actions. How I know? Because doctors at DSC/private GPs tell me themselves.

If you have RAW non protected FJ / AJ - Come on what you thinking? Go and test.

[junmin95]

Originally Posted by ssd3469

This thread was about the STD that i kena recently and advice on what steps I should take. Just a side question of whether should commercial sex be accepted or not? Or should we only have sex with our gf and wife. Maybe not even fwb as FWB is classified under recreational sex, actually sometimes we also have recreational sex with our gf and wife, meaning without the intention of reproducing. But still, should commercial sex be accepted? They will then say even for gf and wife you also pay in the form of dating expenses so it's still a transaction, but gf and wife will care for you ma. Because I keep finding it very hard to get over the hurdle in my mind to accept commercial sex, so was hoping if any bros can change my view.

It's not about wanna chiong don't be scared, is just nice I didn't thought about STD when I chiong(plus other factors).

Originally Posted by ssd3469

Update:

The itch is almost fully gone! I knew the Vagilisl cream would work because mine was yeast infection(another bro told me mine was yeast infection in another thread, cause I went to google yeast infection after that and they recommended Vagilsil cream).Thanks for advice anyway bros. Vagisil Cream costs $17.05 btw, not cheap, but much cheaper than visiting the doctor

the more I read, the more I think you either troll or seriously got some issue to resolve.

Yeast infection is rarely transmitted. It's caused by hygiene issues / imbalance in the body's ecosystem which cause fungal overgrowth. Means I can imagine you are some bui bui / otaku that never shower and wash your bird that's why cause your yeast infection then you think is a STD and keep harping you got STD.

You remind me of this NSmen I met a year ago. He first day introduce himself keep saying everyone dislike him, how he always loner even though he want make friend and keep harping how he no gf. By day 3, I know why he got that problem. if you keep wallop in self-pity and keep feeling the world owe you instead of doing something about it, then you can only blame yourself for it.

E.g. if you want a gf, then go groom, go keep fit and get a good lean body. Most girls don't need 6 packs, just lean and fit with nice clothes will attract them liao. Instead of working blindly from 9 to 6 and OT, think how to progress in career, earn money because with money and a fine body, you get women. It's as simple as that.

If you don't know how to approach/talk to woman, go get a massage. Start at newbie level by talking to ML. You pay for them to massage you / talk to you but if you can't even hold conversation with them, then you really got a social issue.

After ML level, next level is go pub and learn how to chat with stranger. Can start with random cha bor no need to be chio bu. Learn how to be friends with people. Then people will start socialising with you. If you keep telling people how a failure you are, you think people will still want to be your friend meh?

[junmin95]

Originally Posted by ssd3469

When you are horny it is normal to not think of the potential consequences also...just like when people are horny they choose to take off rubber and do, so I am not to be blamed to be honest.

I quote this because for those newcomers / younger ones, if you take out rubber without the consent of the woman even if she is your gf, it's a form of sexual assault. So don't play play hor.

As someone who fucked with FLs/MLs/ONS/ ex-gf, I don't take out my condom unless I asked her for consent. But usually I never have to take out condom because I know it's to protect myself.

[ssd3469]

Originally Posted by junmin95

yeast infection is not from STD but rather your own hygiene la come on. even a woman without std can give you yeast infection by sex/ bbbj if you/her hygiene not good.

BBBJ generally introduce many kinds of bacteria as mouth itself got their own set of bacteria ecosystem. That's why after bbbj must wash your kkj with warm clean water and mild shower gel to clear out the germs.

this kind of thread only mislead those first time have sex then come here read all the scary nonsense.

Or stick to HJ / CBJ la.


i know what's your problem. you spend your time watching useless dating tutorial instead of finding out how to improve your career.

---
Proper advice for those first time readers:

If you have HJ (no bodily fluids) and she suck your nipple / neck - Don't bother test. No risk of STDs at all.

If you have covered (condom) BJ - If you have more than 1 such sessions, I would suggest an annual test as a standard. But only done it once, aiya then don't bother because the risk of getting STD with purely covered BJ is damm damm low.

If you have BBBJ and/or Covered FJ and/or AR (lick kar chng) - Wait 3 months and take STD test at DSC clinic. Make appointment at least 2 weeks before the actual date so that won't cluster f*** the clinic. If you want, can also do at private clinic. Regardless which clinic you go, no doctor will scold you. Doctors are not your parents. They are just medical professionals trying to help you and by profession should not judge you on your sexual actions. How I know? Because doctors at DSC/private GPs tell me themselves.

If you have RAW non protected FJ / AJ - Come on what you thinking? Go and test.

This is not true, because even if I chiong career I will still watch dating tutorials.

[ssd3469]

Originally Posted by junmin95

the more I read, the more I think you either troll or seriously got some issue to resolve.

Yeast infection is rarely transmitted. It's caused by hygiene issues / imbalance in the body's ecosystem which cause fungal overgrowth. Means I can imagine you are some bui bui / otaku that never shower and wash your bird that's why cause your yeast infection then you think is a STD and keep harping you got STD.

You remind me of this NSmen I met a year ago. He first day introduce himself keep saying everyone dislike him, how he always loner even though he want make friend and keep harping how he no gf. By day 3, I know why he got that problem. if you keep wallop in self-pity and keep feeling the world owe you instead of doing something about it, then you can only blame yourself for it.

E.g. if you want a gf, then go groom, go keep fit and get a good lean body. Most girls don't need 6 packs, just lean and fit with nice clothes will attract them liao. Instead of working blindly from 9 to 6 and OT, think how to progress in career, earn money because with money and a fine body, you get women. It's as simple as that.

If you don't know how to approach/talk to woman, go get a massage. Start at newbie level by talking to ML. You pay for them to massage you / talk to you but if you can't even hold conversation with them, then you really got a social issue.

After ML level, next level is go pub and learn how to chat with stranger. Can start with random cha bor no need to be chio bu. Learn how to be friends with people. Then people will start socialising with you. If you keep telling people how a failure you are, you think people will still want to be your friend meh?

My hygiene is good, maybe it is herpes and not yeast infection because I have lumps on both sides of my groin.

[ssd3469]

Originally Posted by nacho

All these STD talks are from the day after.

If the TS, has put in the same amount of thought or risk mitigation, before going for prostitution, all these worries will not happen.

There is no point crying over spilled milk now. Go see doctor.

It was my first or second time going also, thus didn't put much thought to risk mitigation, in addition to the factors explained previously(I think I may have typed the same thing though).

[ssd3469]

Originally Posted by nacho

1) Plain simple English and you don’t understand. So be it.

2) Who in this world does not have difficulties and challenges in life. So don’t think you are the only one going through them now. Especially 2024 will be a very challenging environment for everybody economically.

3) It does not mean when face with difficulties and challenges must go visit prostitutes. I myself do not release my frustrations in this way.

4) When you are here asking for advices and so many brothers spent their time explaining to you, just gathered them and think through before sleep. Arguing or defending what you had done will lead you nowhere. Next time others will not give advice and ignore you.

5) Having a 200 IQ does not mean success to your life. You need EQ to get others to help you to be successful. Which you do not exhibit here.

6) If you still want to defend what you had done were correct or find others not being understanding, you can stop here and go on your way.

I am age 33 without much money nor savings, still living with my parents, you think any woman will still want me? Women see me cannot wait to run away. Don't visit prostitute still wait for what? Even if a woman will want me I may not be able to tahan not being intimate with a woman for another 6 more months to a few years before I find a gf, which is why I say no one can judge me cause they haven't walked my path or be in the situation I am in. Very hard to see myself saving up to $30,000 to find a wife also, much less the $80,000 for a house. Are you able to advice on that? If you are not able to then I don't think you can judge or comment.

There was a dating coach who said those who called in asking for his advice but yet arguing back after he has given them his advice is an asshole, I agree with him, but for my case like I have explained people have not walked my path, and they are not in my difficult situation with regards to visiting a prostitute, the STD advice why I argue back that part I have already addressed previously. Prostitute one I have explained previously as well but I am typing in this post because I wish to add on a few more points.