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[orbit_beer]

hi all,personally i think that maybe it be better if boss implement those older samsters who have here for a few years with good record as moderators,can help your job easier too???we have a few older samsters here who are quite helpful and knowlegeable,maybe a poll to vote some as mods??just my idea to hope that it can help this made sammyboy a better forum....cheers!

[sammyboyfor]

Can't do that for the simple reason that too many here combine cyberspace with the real world. They know each other outside of this forum and often meet socially.

You'll notice that when a newbie gets zapped for breaching the rules, the old timers will gang up and zap the newbie further. However, when one of their own gets zapped, they gang up to restore his points!

Moderators need to be impartial and detached from the daily shenanigans that occur amongst members both in the forum and in real life.

Originally Posted by orbit_beer

hi all,personally i think that maybe it be better if boss implement those older samsters who have here for a few years with good record as moderators,can help your job easier too???we have a few older samsters here who are quite helpful and knowlegeable,maybe a poll to vote some as mods??just my idea to hope that it can help this made sammyboy a better forum....cheers!

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

Can't do that for the simple reason that too many here combine cyberspace with the real world. They know each other outside of this forum and often meet socially.

You'll notice that when a newbie gets zapped for breaching the rules, the old timers will gang up and zap the newbie further. However, when one of their own gets zapped, they gang up to restore his points!

Moderators need to be impartial and detached from the daily shenanigans that occur amongst members both in the forum and in real life.

Couldn't disagree with that as .... I'm one of the guilty party????

But all for the fun of it only lah Sam... afterall thsi forum is really fun too, right?

[machoman]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

For all those sex stories and misc sex chit chat.

The other section has been swamped by members exchanging links in a lame attempt to increase their reputation points.

I never realised those worthless reputation points would be such a hot item.

sammy, when you created the new section, my thread entited "*** Fake Moaning*** was inadvertently relocated to the "Exchange" instead of remaining in "Adult Discussions" where it should belong.
Pls do me a favour and shift it back to the relevant section. Thanks in advance.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

I mean, if its worthless to you, all you need to do is ignore it. Why the need to explain it to the rest of the samsters? If it's not important to you, why don't you just ignore it instead of explaining it out to the samsters?

The fact that samsters do "bring it out" to let others know that the rep pts doesn't this or doesn't that to them, actually shows that they do take notice, subconciously, at least.

My 2 cents worth.

So for your 2 cents worth of analysis, reputation points are worth "how much"?

SC

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

Well, if SB forum has 10,000 members, that would mean about 100 people helping to maintain the forums. It's impossible to have 90 out of 100 samsters acting as "moderators".

Sam, infact only has himself and a couple of moderators to help him, so if your stats are anywhere near correct, I think the boss would be more than pleased.

My 2 cents worth.

"Agree with your statement"
When a dog sees his owner, he wags his tail.

And definitely I will get a few more dogs to look after my house to make sure that no one creates havoc "in my house" when I am away.

SC

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

So for your 2 cents worth of analysis, reputation points are worth "how much"?

SC

I'm not saying that rep pts are worth alot or for that matter anything. Even Sam himself has stated that the pts are worthless.

My point is that we see samsters out here claiming that rep pts are not important to them, etc, etc. Why bother to tell others if this is not an important issue to the respective samsters. Then again, the same samsters will also post whenever there is a deduction of their pts. Their post will of course be put in such a way to tell everyone that they couldn't care less if their pts are deducted. If such is the case, why don't just ignore the deduction and why the need to voice it out?

If rep pts don't mean anything at all, then why are there posts mentioning it at all? This include those who says that the pts don't mean anything at all to them and indirectly criticize others who do.

I have never seen anyone that will make a statement about something that is not important to them, not bothered about, etc. On the contrary, there are many who pretended to make statements to say these matters don't bother them.

My 2 cents worth.

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

"Agree with your statement"
When a dog sees his owner, he wags his tail.

And definitely I will get a few more dogs to look after my house to make sure that no one creates havoc "in my house" when I am away.

SC

Since you so nicely equate samsters who helped, directly or indirectly as "moderators" to "dogs", let me help you to put it further.

Samsters, whether knowingly or unknowingly, do moderate as moderation comes in several forms. Let me list a few.

1. You are moderating whenever you deduct a samsters pts to show disapproval of the post.

2. You are moderating whenever you add a samsters pts to show approval of the post.

3. You are moderating whenever you "flame" or criticize a post to show disapproval.

4. You are moderating whenever you "encourage" a certain posts to show approval.

Unless, you have not done any of these, that only you can say you have not assisted in moderation whether knowingly or unknowingly.

I admit that I have. And if you say you haven't, then only a fool will believe you.

By the way, welcome to the kennel club.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

Since you so nicely equate samsters who helped, directly or indirectly as "moderators" to "dogs", let me help you to put it further.

Samsters, whether knowingly or unknowingly, do moderate as moderation comes in several forms. Let me list a few.

1. You are moderating whenever you deduct a samsters pts to show disapproval of the post.

2. You are moderating whenever you add a samsters pts to show approval of the post.

3. You are moderating whenever you "flame" or criticize a post to show disapproval.

4. You are moderating whenever you "encourage" a certain posts to show approval.

Unless, you have not done any of these, that only you can say you have not assisted in moderation whether knowingly or unknowingly.

I admit that I have. And if you say you haven't, then only a fool will believe you.

By the way, welcome to the kennel club.

hahaha, comments taken out of context again.

Anyway, you do see samsters who wag their tails agreeing with every action taken by the "owner".

1. You are moderating whenever you deduct a samsters pts to show disapproval of the post.
I deduct "dogs" who deem rep points as important.

2. You are moderating whenever you add a samsters pts to show approval of the post.
I add samsters who ask me for it, not because of how worthy their post is.

3. You are moderating whenever you "flame" or criticize a post to show disapproval.
That is not moderation. That is freedom of speech. I can voice my opinions on issues of the country, doesn't mean I am "moderating" the country.

4. You are moderating whenever you "encourage" a certain posts to show approval.
Same answer as 3.

As for welcoming me to the kennel club, thats for dogs who wag their tails. I bite, thats why I "stand outside the club".

Anyway, we must be too free talking crap here, unlike dogs who are busy working round the clock in the cyberworld trying to suck up to the owner.

hahaha
SC

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

hahaha, comments taken out of context again.

Anyway, we must be too free talking crap here, unlike dogs who are busy working round the clock in the cyberworld trying to suck up to the owner.

hahaha
SC

Ha Ha Ha. Not taken out of context, but intentionally testing you lah bro...

You're good, and I like that.

Up your reps... (am I moderating?) kekekekeke

[machoman]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

For all those sex stories and misc sex chit chat.

The other section has been swamped by members exchanging links in a lame attempt to increase their reputation points.

I never realised those worthless reputation points would be such a hot item.

sammy, kudos to u for creating this forum. However, the thread "Funny SMS" started by fun4evergood has been inadvertently relocated to the new section,"exchange link plaza''.

Please do a favour and relocate it to "Adult Discussions" where it was originally posted and rightfully belongs.Thanks in advance for your usual prompt action in this matter.

[Brinjal]

Actually this rep points thingy is part of the Vbulletin system. There are certain algorithm within it that can actually be tweaked easily. The webmaster decides if he wants to implement the system. In many sites, the choice has been to omit them. The reason being this obsession with the rep points and the number of frivolous pms to the webmaster which is really annoying. The positive will be handing over the moderation to the general forumers instead of having to ban or disable any account.

[MrDevil]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

I've seen many people commented on the rep points, saying it doesn't matter to them, it's worthless, should be done away with, etc, etc,

I'm just curious that if it really is not important to the particular samsters, or it;s worthless, etc, etc, and that they don't bother about it, that why do these samsters bother even to let others know?

I mean, if its worthless to you, all you need to do is ignore it. Why the need to explain it to the rest of the samsters? If it's not important to you, why don't you just ignore it instead of explaining it out to the samsters?

The fact that samsters do "bring it out" to let others know that the rep pts doesn't this or doesn't that to them, actually shows that they do take notice, subconciously, at least.

My 2 cents worth.

haahahhaa well said, but let's face it... the points do make a difference here for almost everyone.

[master]

Originally Posted by Brinjal

Actually this rep points thingy is part of the Vbulletin system. There are certain algorithm within it that can actually be tweaked easily. The webmaster decides if he wants to implement the system. In many sites, the choice has been to omit them. The reason being this obsession with the rep points and the number of frivolous pms to the webmaster which is really annoying. The positive will be handing over the moderation to the general forumers instead of having to ban or disable any account.

vbulletin indeed is one of the best forum software and the reputation point system is just one of the hacks that vbulletin have...there are plenty of other hacks...depending whether the webmaster wants it to be install or not

check out this link for vbulletin hacks

http://www.vbulletin.org/

[tikus69]

Boss,
Since points so valuable to bros in this SB forum, I thinking you should use the points to tie up with some companies for promotion. Like NTUC linkpoints can used to exchange vouchers and items... SB forum points can used to exchange
CD, hotel stay and more. make earning points difficult so that they become more valuable. like only the moderators can given out points to bros here instead of letting all bros given each other points. You can have advertisments from the sponsors and generate some revenues.

just my ideas. please dont zap me if you think they are stupid ideas.