What is True Love?

[MachoDevilX]

I have started this topic just to discuss on what is everyone's opinion of love. I mean True Love. I believe that although we are cheongsters, but we have feelings and conscious as well. I believe that there must be some girls whom we have truly loves and not just plainly to get them to bed. Kindly share your opinions and experiences of "True Love" in this thread. It can be Love stories (either your own or you have taken from somewhere) and it could be anything about Love. Your opinions of what is love and your views of what is love.

I personally find that a lot of young girls nowadays are not able to differentiate someone who truly loves her and someone who is just trying all his means to impress her and take her to bed... A lot of girls nowadays can only see the exterior stuffs and are often being blinded by their so-called love from guys who is just trying to impress them to bed.

From my experiences, if a guy truly loves a girl, it's really quite hard for him to keep his calm since he will tend to treat every words the girl say to him seriously.. And that was when he will becomes paranoid and emotional. Since he loves her, he will tell the girl very frankly what he feels is not right for the girl to do. He wants the best for the person who he truly loves and that was why he will tend to be more nagging and emotional. But then, the girl will feel suffocated and find that the guy is too possessive and trying to control her. And hence, she will try to break free from a guy who truly loves her. If the girl can communicate well with the guy and tell her exactly how she feels, then the situation will be very different and the guy will know that she needs some space of her own...

On the other hand, if another guy appears and always trying to impress the girl by remaining cool and just follow what the girl wants, the girl will thought that this guy loves her more which in fact might not the case. Since what the guy wants is plainly to impress the girl and probably, bring her to bed eventually. Hence he will be able to remain cool and he will be able to follow what the girl wants. Even if he know that the girl has make wrong decisions for certain things, he will not say out since in his mind, it doesn't matters to him as long as he gets the girl eventually. And he just need to keep on impressing her. Is that called loving the girl??? I personally find that the answer is NO. But then, most of the girls will not be able to differentiate between sincere guys who truly loves them and guys who are just trying to impress them.

All the above are just my own personal views of love. It might not be the actual fact. All bros and sis, please kindly share your opinions and views of True Love.

PS: Don't flame me hor.. I think it's a good topic for us to understand love and to share some love stories.

[MachoDevilX]

Here's something that I have found from the Net which I think some bros might have seen it before. Just want to share with everyone...

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If you love someone, let them go. If
they return to you, it was meant to be. If
they don't, their love was never yours to
begin with...

a great love is when you shed tears
and still cares for him & still longs for
him, he begins to love another and yet
you still smile and say " I'm happy for
you " (:

the worst thing in the world is
seeing the one you love with the one
they love.
you always leave the ones who leaves
you and leaves the one who loves you.

loving is not how you forget but how
you forgive, not how you listen but how
you understand, not what you see but
how you feel and not how you let go but
how you hold on.

a guy and a girl can be just friends ,
but.. at one point or another , one of
them will fall for the other , maybe
temporary , maybe at wrong time ,
maybe too late , maybe ..
Just maybe... forever...

If someone comes into your life and becomes a
part of you but for some reasons he couldn't stay,
don't cry too much... Just be glad that your paths
crossed and; somehow he made you happy even
for a while. Time will tell. If he's yours he will surely
come back.Don't throw your back to love when it's
already in front of you. Don't drive it away from you
because if you do, someday you'll think again why
you let love fly away when it was once residing
next to you. Treasure the one who loves you! It's
not easy to find a person who loves you. It's
always more valuable to have a sincere heart. The
greatest regrets in our lives are the risks we did
not take. If you think something will make you.
happy, GO FOR IT. Remember that we pass this
way only once. Time doesn't wait. If you think you
might have found the right one, treasure the
person, don't let that person get away. Don't let
fear hold You back. Give it a try else you might
regret later..."No one other than ourselves know
what can truly make us happy."

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[Deztruct]

its abit lengthy but i find it real touching

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Tree ===

The reason I'm called tree is because I'm good at painting trees. Overtime I start to use a tree on the right hand corner as a trademark for all my watercolors painting. I have dated 5 gals when I was in Pre-U.There's one gal who I love a lot but never dare go after her. She doesn't have a pretty face, doesn't have a good figure, doesn't have outstanding charm. She is just a very ordinary gal. I like her. I really like her. Like her innocent, like her frankness. Like her cuteness, like her intelligence and her fragility. Reason for not going after her is because I felt somebody so ordinary like her is not a good match for me. I'm also afraid that after we are together all the good feelings will vanish. I'm also afraid other's gossips will hurt her. I felt that if she's my gal, she will be mine ultimately & I don't have to give upeverything just for her. The last reason, made her accompany me for 3 years.She watch me chase after gals, and I have make her heart cry for 3 years. She wants to be a good actress and I'm a very demanding director. When I kissed my 2nd girlfriend, she bumped into us. She was embarrassed but smile & say "Go on!" before running off. The next day, her eyes was swollen like a walnut. I purposely didn't want to think about what causes her to cry but laugh at her the whole day. When everybody go back home, she was alone crying in the classroom. She didn't know that I returned from soccer training to get something. I watch her cry for an hour or so. My 4th girlfriend didn't like her. There was once when both of them quarreled. I know that based on her character she's not the type that will start off the quarrel. But I still sided with my girlfriend. I shouted at her and her eyes was filled shocked. I didn't care about her feelings and walked off with my girlfriend. The next day, she still laugh & joke with me like nothing has ever happened. I know that she's very hurt but she didn't know that my heart ache is as bad as hers. When I broke up with my 5th girlfriend, I asked her out. After going out for a day, I told her that I have something to tell her. She told me that coincidentally, she has something to tell me too. I told her about my break up and she told me about her getting together. I know whose the guy. He has been going after her for quite a while. A very cute guy full of energy, lively and interesting. His pursuit for her has been the talk of the school.I can't show her my heart ache but could only smile & congratulate her. When I reach home, the heart ache is so strong that I can't stand it. It's like a heavy weighted stone on my chest. I couldn't breath. Wanted to shout but can't. Tears rolled down & I broke down & cry. How many times have I seen her cry for the man that doesn't acknowledge her presence too. During graduation, I read a sms in my hp. It was send 10 days ago when I broke down and cry. I haven't read it since then.

It says "Leaf departure is because of Wind pursuit. Or because Tree didn't ask her to stay?"

Leaf ===

During Pre-U days, I like to collect leaves. Why? Because I felt that for a leaf to leave the tree she has been relying on for so long it takes a lot of courage. During the 3 years of Pre-U I was on veryclose terms with a guy. Not BGR kind but as buddy kind. But when he had his 1st girlfriend, I learnt a feeling I never should have learnt - Jealousy.The sourness in the heart can't be describe by using a lemon. It's like 100 rotten sour lemon. Sourness to the extreme limit. They were only together for 2 mths. When they broke up, I hide my strong sense of happiness. But after a mth, he got together with another gal. I like him & I know he like me. But why won't he pursue me? Since he love me why he doesn't want to make the first move? Whenever he had a new girlfriend, my heart would hurt. Time after time, my heart was hurt. I begin to suspect that this is a one sided love. If he don't like me, why does he treat me so well. It's beyond what you will normally do for a friend. Liking a person is very heart wrenching. I can know his likes, his habits. But his feelings towards me I can never figure out. You can't expect me a gal to ask him right? Despite that, I still want to be by his side. Care for him, accompany him,love him. Hoping that one fine day, he will come & love me. It's like waiting for his phone call every night, wanting him to send me sms. I know that no matter how busy he is, he will make time for me. Because of this, I waited for him. The 3 years were the hardest to go through & I really want to give up. Sometimes, I wonder should I continue waiting. The pain and hurt, the dilemma accompany me for 3 years. Till the end of my 3rd year, a 2nd year junior begins to go after me.Everyday he pursuit me relentlessly. From outright rejection to a point in time when I felt that I'm willing to let him have a small footing in my heart. He's like a warm & gentle wind, trying to blow a leaf away from thetree. In the end, I realized that I didn't want to give this wind a small footing in my heart. I know this wind will bring this badly battered leave far away & better land. Finally I left tree, but the tree only smile & didn't ask me to stay.
Leaf departure is because of Wind pursuit. Or because Tree didn't ask her to stay?

Wind ====

Because I like a gal called leaf. Because she's so dependent on tree so I have to be a gust wind. A wind that will blow her away. When I first met her, it was 1 mth after I transfer to the new school. I saw a petite person looking at my seniors & me playing soccer. During ECA time, she will always be sitting there. Be it alone or with her friends looking at him. When he talks with gals there's jealousy in her eyes. When he looked at her, there's a smile in her eyes. Looking at her became my habit. Just like she likes to look at him. One day, she didn't appear. I felt something amissed. I can't explain the feeling except it's a kind of uneasiness. The senior was also not there as well. I went to their classroom, hid outside and saw my senior scolding her. Tears were in her eyes while he left. The next day, I saw her at her usual place, looking at him. I walked over and smiled to her. Took out a note & gave to her. She was surprised. She looked at me, smiled & accept the note. The next day, she appeared & pass me a note and left. Leaf's heart is too heavy and wind couldn't blow her away It's not that leaf heart is too heavy. It because leaf never want to leave tree I replied her note with this statement and slowly she started to talk to me & accept my presents & phone calls. I know that the person she loves is not me. But I have this perseverance that one day I will make her like me. Within 4 mths, I have declared my love for her no less than 20 times. Every time, she will divert away from the topic. But I never give up. If I decide I want her to be mine, I will definitely use all means to win her over. I can't remember how many times I have declared my love toher. Although I know she will try to divert but I still bear a small ray of hope. Hoping that she will agree to me my girlfriend. I didn't hear any reply from her over the phone. I asked "what are you doing? How come you didn't want to reply?" She said, "I'm nodding my head". "Ah?" I couldn't believe my ears. "I'm nodding my head" She replied loudly. I hang up the phone, quickly changed and took a taxi and rush to her place & press her door bell. During the moment when she opens the door. I hugged her tightly.
Leaf departure is because of Wind pursuit. Or because Tree didn't ask her to stay?

[MachoDevilX]

Bro, Thanks for sharing. Although I have seen it before but then it's always good to compile such good stuffs together into one single thread.

Just and advice to all bros visiting this thread.
Please do not quote the entire postings since it will be very lengthy and may results in your reps pts being deducted by the moderators

[silverhawk]

the woman I love the most happen to be my ex and once after some drinks, we even checked into a hotel and I did nothing to her but only kiss her. It's not always about sex if you are talking about the woman you love.

[er0s47]

I personally find that a lot of young girls nowadays are not able to differentiate someone who truly loves her and someone who is just trying all his means to impress her and take her to bed... A lot of girls nowadays can only see the exterior stuffs and are often being blinded by their so-called love from guys who is just trying to impress them to bed.

well said

[MachoDevilX]

Originally Posted by silverhawk

the woman I love the most happen to be my ex and once after some drinks, we even checked into a hotel and I did nothing to her but only kiss her. It's not always about sex if you are talking about the woman you love.

I agree with you. If a guy truly loves a girl, he won't think so much about the sex stuffs at the stage before they are married or before their relationship are stable. Of course after married, Sex becomes an essential part of the marriage life.

Sad to say, I personally find that Gentleman always end up in the losing end in a relationship.

[Microsoft]

Yah alot of young girls nowaday first thing first look at how many "C" u have. Fuckup face and shitty character nvm. Got money can oredi. Married leow, regretted, then start looking around 4 tao tau. Sigh. Seen too many of such cases among friends leow. True love is getting harder n harder to find. Make me feel like 葬ing my 心

[MachoDevilX]

Originally Posted by Microsoft

Yah alot of young girls nowaday first thing first look at how many "C" u have. Fuckup face and shitty character nvm. Got money can oredi. Married leow, regretted, then start looking around 4 tao tau. Sigh. Seen too many of such cases among friends leow. True love is getting harder n harder to find. Make me feel like 葬ing my 心

Actually I think not only just the number of "C"s that we have, that attracted the girls. Of course the more "C"s we have, then there will be more different types of girls will be attracted to us. But I find that girls tend to like lots and lots of sweet talk and hence form a layer of web in front of their eyes and tend to be blinded... With lots of pretence and sweet talk by guys who just want to bonk them, they will thought that such guys truly loves them. But once the guys get sick of them, then they will be hurt. But of course, the guys who have achieved their motives will dump them graciously and won't even let the girls know their initial motives. And the girls will again fall for another such guy again and again... Sad to say, this has always been happening.

There are true love in this society but can we really see it when true love approach us? We might not even realise and might even feel frustrated with the person who truly loves us since we will tend to take them for granted.

[Nesta]

hehe bro, good job in making this thread, coz' everyone needs to stop once in a while in their lives and ask themself questions ...

just one thing i want to contribute ... i believe love is just a raw feeling. Becoz' of love, we have bf/gfs, we marry, we stay together, we have kids, we grow old together. But having a r/s, a marriage, cohabiting, kids & companying each other for life, needs much more than love. When there's nothing needed in loving but love, like saving your gf from being washed away by a river (my frd jumped into some river in msia to save his gf altho' he dun treat her well & always flirt with other gals) .. when only the basic element of love is required, it is easy. Love is easy, a great feeling, but life isn't

[Microsoft]

Originally Posted by MachoDevilX

But I find that girls tend to like lots and lots of sweet talk and hence form a layer of web in front of their eyes and tend to be blinded... With lots of pretence and sweet talk by guys who just want to bonk them, they will thought that such guys truly loves them.

Hee! The answer 2 this can be found in ur signature. 色不異空，色不異色，色即是空，空即 是色。

[MachoDevilX]

Originally Posted by Microsoft

Hee! The answer 2 this can be found in ur signature. 色不異空，色不異色，色即是空，空即 是色。

Wah.. Bro. This thread talks about love leh. Can only TCSS a bit hor..Kekeke... Btw, you seems to change your avatar huh? And your signature as well. Since when you like Sun Tsu Bing Fa?

Okay lah... Back to the Topic of Love..

[MachoDevilX]

Originally Posted by Nesta

hehe bro, good job in making this thread, coz' everyone needs to stop once in a while in their lives and ask themself questions ...

Bro, Thanks for your compliments. I have always been reflecting myself on this topic once and then... And hope that more bros and sis can share our experiences and views here.

Btw, thanks for your opinion. I totally agree with you...

[Tai_zi21]

Nice topic started by the thread starter! i do agree that most gers nowdays only go for either looks or by the amount of C u have lor! u may be very rich and yandao,but can u really find a true love? do they just like u based on ur looks or the amount of cash in ur wallet or maybe even the fancy car u r driving? and when u really find that special one already,it not entirely based on sex le! just my humble views here!

[MachoDevilX]

Originally Posted by Tai_zi21

Nice topic started by the thread starter! i do agree that most gers nowdays only go for either looks or by the amount of C u have lor! u may be very rich and yandao,but can u really find a true love? do they just like u based on ur looks or the amount of cash in ur wallet or maybe even the fancy car u r driving? and when u really find that special one already,it not entirely based on sex le! just my humble views here!

Thanks for sharing your views here. Very much appreciated.

I think it's quite sad that such cases are very common in today's society. A lot of girls tend to look for guys who are either rich, yandao or possess superb sweet-talking skills. They tend to miss out guys who can seriously treat them well and treat them with respect which is such a sad thing...