To all those who travel to JB

[Stud00]

Dear Bros and Sis,
do have a read at this.
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/singa...153412363.html

[joew2005]

every country hv their own rules & laws.
they indeed did not get their passport chop b4 entering my.
they only came back 2 the ICQ half an hour after entering my.
the my authority hv the right 2 accuse them of entering my illegally.

the issue on being ordered 2 strip & do squats with their hands on their ears @ a detention centre,it might not be normal but not necessary illegal in my.

but it remains 2 be seen where the fine paid has gone 2 ...

if ppl do not appreciate visitors entering their country 2 boast up their tourism,then perhaps the visitors could consider giving that a miss.

[curry_mutu_man]

The traffic is just tooooo heavy, i guess i will wait for a while to see how it goes before driving in again

[harahara88]

Sorry to ask but do we need to fill up the white card and get our passport stamped ?

[son101]

Need to check that passport is chopped before proceeding .

[bochapsing]

advice: "take care of yourself...."
check ur own passport after taking back from counter, before u leave the complex...
encountered once, we realised tat the officer din chop my gf passport, stopped car immediately and walked back to the counter to get it chopped...

[singexpat]

Originally Posted by joew2005

every country hv their own rules & laws.
they indeed did not get their passport chop b4 entering my.
they only came back 2 the ICQ half an hour after entering my.
the my authority hv the right 2 accuse them of entering my illegally.

the issue on being ordered 2 strip & do squats with their hands on their ears @ a detention centre,it might not be normal but not necessary illegal in my.

but it remains 2 be seen where the fine paid has gone 2 ...

if ppl do not appreciate visitors entering their country 2 boast up their tourism,then perhaps the visitors could consider giving that a miss.

Bro, Agree with ur statements totally.. Seems like you are a seasoned traveller?

Saw a number of nasty comments on the race, intelligence etc.. BUT people here forgot its THEIR Country.
Situation could be worse in other places (e.g. Africa, Vietnam, Thailand etc)

[bochapsing]

Originally Posted by singexpat

Bro, Agree with ur statements totally.. Seems like you are a seasoned traveller?

Saw a number of nasty comments on the race, intelligence etc.. BUT people here forgot its THEIR Country.
Situation could be worse in other places (e.g. Africa, Vietnam, Thailand etc)

totally agree with bro joew2005 & singexpat...

it may not be "right", but it's THEIR country...

and things could be even worse in other places...

[Johnston]

hello hello hello has no one remembered the case of the chinese woman made to strip and squat and the accompanying handphone clip?

I saw it all those years ago and goddamn if it wasnt real

[joew2005]

http://my.news.yahoo.com/dap-says-nu...015317737.html

DAP says nude squat case ‘humiliating’, demands Home Ministry response

KUALA LUMPUR, June 14 — The DAP has demanded tat the Home Ministry respond 2 reports tat 2 Singaporean women were handcuffed & made 2 do squats naked by Malaysian immigration officials.

Ipoh Barat MP M Kulasegaran said tat the act was “humiliating” & “ridiculous,” while Bakri MP Er Teck Hwa said the incident would give other countries the perception tat Malaysia was a “lawless” country.

“You cannot do tis, why subject these women 2 tis form of interrogation, it is humiliating,” Kulasegaran told The Malaysian Insider.

Batu Gajah MP Fong Po Kuan had brought the matter up earlier 2 deputy home minister Datuk Abu Seman Yusop, but Abu Seman had declined 2 offer a response as Fong’s question was not included in the list during question time.

“I tried 2 bring it up, but the deputy minister did not answer [my question],” Fong told The Malaysian Insider.

“People won’t 1 2 come 2 our country anymore if tis kind of practice occurs ... tis will affect the country’s image as a tourist destination.

“The Home Ministry must give a response, they must investigate wat happened,” Er added.

2 Singaporean women who drove 2 JB 4 supper were questioned by Malaysian immigration officials, handcuffed, thrown behind bars & made 2 do squats while naked, the Singapore Straits Times reported 2day.

The 2 women said they had driven in2 JB without getting their passports stamped, thru an unmanned immigration lane.

Following their punishment, they were allowed 2 return 2 Singapore aft 48 hours with a warning.

Now back in Singapore, both women say they will never go back 2 Malaysia.



the politicians in my k say tis is wrong,tat is wrong & etc.
but the 2 women were so unfortunate tat they didn't get their passport stamped the 1st time round.
when they gone back half hour later,they were arrested 4 entering my illegally.
nothing done k relieve the women of the treatments they received there.

[cheongsterjon]

it is absurb to ask two ladies who have yet to be convicted to do such a punishment...doing squats while naked..

[Stud00]

All countries has their own sets of rules.
But personally i think, that this is overboard. But then again, i wont expect our useless MFA or Singapore Embassy to do anything. Their mere existence is to provide new passports for those that hv lost them and bring ur dead body back. Thats about it. Thats MFA/Singapore Embassy for you.

[PleasureEmpire]

As long as u make sure ur passports are stamped, everything will be fine.

The other girl goes in quite often with frens, she shld have known better than just to drive thru withoit getting the passports stamped.

[Chriskeong]

confine them is enough
y need to go to the extend of strip naked
2 sg men go kill
now 2 sg ladies go kn insult
like tat cant be friendly country liao

[joew2005]

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/singa...153412363.html

Malaysia investigates alleged abuse of S'porean duo at customs

UPDATE

The Johor Immigration Department says it has completed its probe in2 the alleged mistreatment of 2 Singaporeans by immigration officers @ the JB customs checkpoint last week.

But when asked 2 comment, department director Mohd Nasri Ishak said, "Please wait 4 the decision by the department headquarters & the (home) ministry."

He declined further comment, reported Malaysian news portal Malaysiakini, as he said he did not 1 2 contradict anything the headquarters might say.

However the case -- which saw 2 Singaporean ladies being strip-searched & ordered 2 do squats in the nude while being detained -- has sparked widespread outrage among Singaporean netizens.

Since it was 1st posted late on Tuesday evening, the story has been shared on Facebook over 3,000 times & drawn over 700 comments.

Some hv called 4 a boycott of shops in Johor Bahru while others called 4 the MFA 2 launch a proper investigation in2 the alleged abuse.

Yahoo! Fit-to-Post reader SH commented, "As consumers & tourists, we should vote with our pockets, boycott poor service shops & countries which do not appreciate our tourism dollars."

Another reader Koh wrote, "Is the MFA doing something abt tis ? Tis is a common trick of Malaysian Immigration 2 extort money fr Singaporeans. Why do we need 2 go 2 JB to save money. Patronize a country tat obviously do not welcome you?"

Yet others questioned why the 2 ladies ventured up 2 JB 4 supper @ such a late hour.

Reader Patriot wrote, "1.30am going 2 JB 4 supper just 2 ladies ? Must be out of your mind right? Singapore got so many night haunts 4 supper & yet you choose JB."

The 2 Singaporeans in question were reportedly detained by Malaysian law enforcement officers in JB early last Thursday morning aft they were accused of entering Malaysia illegally.

The pair were also ordered 2 strip & do squats with their hands on their ears for 10 times when they were sent 2 a detention centre.

The ordeal happened when Lim Lili & Zhan Tingting (not their real names) drove across the Causeway 4 supper @ abt 1:30am. When they reached the Malaysian customs checkpoint, both women inadvertently did not get their passports stamped.

According 2 Lianhe Zaobao, Lim said she had entered a lane tat displayed a green light which signalled tat the lane was in operation.

Lim recalled seeing tat the lane had no immigration officer @ the counter & it was @ tis point tat they didn't get their passports stamped. Zhan then alighted 2 purchase a "Touch N Go" prepaid card 2 pay 4 their entry in2 Malaysia.

As it was their 1st time experiencing the new biometric scanner @ the counter, Lim used the intercom & tried 2 ask another officer 4 help. Both waited @ the counter for 5 mins b4 they decided 2 move on as Lim thought tat there would be another counter 4 them 2 scan their fingers.

But instead, they drove in2 JB without getting their passports stamped & fingerprints scanned. Realising something was wrong, Lim drove her car back 2 the customs 2 obtain an entry chop 4 their passports.

However, when reached the customs at 2am, they were accused of entering Malaysia illegally & questioned by Malaysian law enforcement officers.

"When my statement was taken, both of us tried 2 explain ourselves & requested 4 them 2 check with Singapore's immigration department 2 check their departure timings & CCTV footage 2 clarify tat 1s we knew there was a mistake, we quickly turned back," said Zhan.

The officers then curtly informed them of the offence & punishment, emphasising the RM10,000 (S$4,069) & jail term.

Both women were detained in a room until 5pm on 10 June & were only allowed 2 make a phone call each.

1 of them called a friend while the other spoke 2 her brother, who contacted the Singapore High Commission in Malaysia & the MFA.

"Somebody with a higher rank came & started speaking 2 us in Malay. A translator told us if we were willing 2 accept a fine of RM3,000 (S$1,220) 2 resolve the situation," said Zhan.

"And becos we were so tired, we agreed 2 pay the fine & we signed an agreement tat was in Malay," Zhan added.

Officers led the 2 women 2 an ATM machine 2 withdraw cash 2 pay the fine. But the women received another shock when the officers suddenly said tat they will be sent 2 a detention centre in Pontian district & will be detained 4 up to 14 days.

Lim then asked the officers, "I thought we already settled the case?"

They were later handcuffed & sent 2 the women's division @ the detention centre. Lim & Zhan met a female officer who ordered a strip search. Both women were made 2 strip & do squats with their hands on their ears for 10 times b4 they were allowed 2 change in2 their prison uniforms.

Zhan said: "The place was dirty & smelly, the roach-infested room was 2-3rds of the basketball court, no bed, 4 wooden walls, with 50 people in it."

"We were treated like criminals even b4 we were pronounced guilty, it was humiliating. Most of the detainees were Filipinos & Indonesians without passports. We were the only Singaporeans."

Aft a night in the centre, the officers woke them up at 5am to do the Islamic morning prayers.

She said in the span of 24 hours, besides eating & praying, we were stuck in the room. When it was time 2 eat, we did not hv forks & spoons & ate with our hands. We did not dare 2 finish eating, but the rest of the detainees told us 2 finish becos if we did not, the officers will punish us."

At the detention centre, the 2 of them were bitten by mosquitoes & bugs the whole night. Zhan's hands & legs had red spots & her whole body hurt while Lim's back & neck were bitten, & her skin was red & itchy.

Both women were detained @ the centre for 24 hours b4 another immigration officer transferred them back 2 the Malaysia customs & detained them 4 another 6 hours.

Zhan said tat other immigration officers mocked them & asked if the detention centre was like a 5-star hotel.

On Friday night, an official handed both woman a warning letter & informed them tat they will not be charged, jailed or fined.

When Lim went 2 retrieve her car, she saw it was badly scratched & damaged. They were also told by an immigration officer who handled their departure proceedings tat they would not be able 2 enter Malaysia easily next time.

Looking back, Zhan acknowledged their mistake but said, "Tis is only a trivial mistake. Does it warrant a need 2 detain us @ the detention centre?"

The pair angrily added: "Next time even if you invite me over 2 Malaysia I wouldn't 1 go in!"

They were worried tat the incident would affect their jobs, & wanted 2 remind their friends 2 be more careful when travelling 2 Malaysia.

Under their lawyer's advice, the pair might seek compensation fr the Malaysian authorities.

Tis is not the 1st time Malaysian authorities hv been accused of abusing their power. In November 2005, another woman was made 2 perform nude squats.

According to police, the nude squats r meant 2 dislodge any hidden illicit drugs but the incident led 2 the formation of an independent commission, which subsequently recommended tat the practice be stopped.