Gers Are Still Gers

[OceanEleven]

I am both (painter's stroke and humping machine) :D
but for my case I come in extra as a life time undeflatable punching bag.So how's life as a multi-tasker?? Tough huh? :D

[t123]

So how's life as a multi-tasker?? Tough huh? :D
Life is mysterious it comes and goes pretty fast. First there was a temp staff who romp with me in the office. A PRC student. A Nusery teacher. Some lady from another website. A Minah and a one whom I recently gave my heart to. Now, everything seemed too quiet, dun know why? You leh, not afraid da sao make noise or find out you are in here? :o

[Rof|maoxz]

Marriage is not a word. It is a sentence--A life sentence.

Marriage is very much like a violin; after the sweet music
is over, the strings are attached.

Marriage is love. Love is blind. Therefore, marriage is
an institution for the blind.

Marriage is an institution in which a man loses his Bachelor's
Degree and the woman gets her Masters.

Marriage is a thing which puts a ring on a woman's finger
and two under the man's eyes.

Anyone agrees with the statement above? :)

[IreneXXX]

I am both (painter's stroke and humping machine)
but for my case I come in extra as a life time undeflatable punching bag.Hehehe to quote Ivy jie's siggy "all positions are filled" ... He even functions as a spacecraft to send me out of orbit :rolleyes:

punching bag??? :eek:

Though a lil cushioning is great for rides and I'm not even talking about his car!!!

[t123]

punching bag??? :eek:
:( some form of anger managment therapeutic equipment. Can try all you thai-bo, muay thai, silat, etc. I come with a 30day money back guarantee. Thats how my ex see me.

[vesfreq]

To uselessger,

Girls in their 20s think they are high and mighty. What to do? Kenna shot and tekan bad by them. I don't mind, because I know they are like cars. And, cars depreciate by the second and comes with high running costs.

Women, unfortunately, come with high running costs too. ie, your younger peers. Its a very tiring process to date them, u know? wtf, go out one time, after that girl never reply my sms. Its like someone talking to you, but you never bother to reply.

Its total rudeness, I tell you. Gone are the days, where women deserve good respect from men.

Recently also met another .... gal who deserves to be listed in the hall of shame. She has been leading 7-8 something guys on. Guys have been doing all kinds of things to win her favour and crap. In the end, she can go for blind date and proudly declare it to everyone. Its like a slap in the face.

Its complete 100% immaturity. Like seeking for attention all the time. If no one to talk to, she comes to me. wtf! When she finds new bf, she runs off. I'm no spare tyre, but these people are taking me for a fool. :mad:

[spermmann2003]

Women have a disease in them, it was passed down from eve. Adam told me there is no way to totally exterminate it and the only way to curb the disease is to feed the women with sperm, lots and lots of sperm.

[spermmann2003]

Oops forgot to say mine:

At a swimming pool, mid afternoon, not many swimmers around.

I was swimming side stroke, so face was looking at the walking path.

After the swim, my ex pulled a cheeby black face whole day. I asked her why, she say nothing, i knew there was something, so i persisted. In the end, she said:" just now u swim side stroke because you bioing a girl!"

Seriously, i swear to god, there was not a single shit soul my face was looking at during the swim. Tats really my limit and i was speechless for 2 weeks.

[agent010]

Women have a disease in them, it was passed down from eve. Adam told me there is no way to totally exterminate it and the only way to curb the disease is to feed the women with sperm, lots and lots of sperm.

women are cursed to control for their whole lives :p . men? cursed to forget all tt are impt and remember those less impt ones :eek:

[OceanEleven]

Oops forgot to say mine:

I was swimming side stroke, so face was looking at the walking path.
After the swim, my ex pulled a cheeby black face whole day. I asked her why, she say nothing, i knew there was something, so i persisted. In the end, she said:" just now u swim side stroke because you bioing a girl!"
Seriously, i swear to god, there was not a single shit soul my face was looking at during the swim. Tats really my limit and i was speechless for 2 weeks.
Next time dont swim, simply dive in and underwater for the full length, else get her to evacuated the swimming pool area while you swim. :rolleyes:
The few things things that we never fathom......

[Five Stone]

Oops forgot to say mine:
Seriously, i swear to god, there was not a single shit soul my face was looking at during the swim. Tats really my limit and i was speechless for 2 weeks.
Haha, never underestimate the imagination of a woman at the most impossible moment....... :D

[vesfreq]

Haha, never underestimate the imagination of a woman at the most impossible moment....... :D

Thats why girls make good auditors and accountants. *puke* Accountant gfs are a pain to manage. At least, somewhat more frugal than the usual spg.

[t123]

Next time dont swim, simply dive in and underwater for the full length, else get her to evacuated the swimming pool area while you swim. :rolleyes:
The few things things that we never fathom......
Chey, next time better don't do anything lagi best. TMD, in the past I also denied becos I really did not bio anything. CCB, sometimes was pinched near my eye lid somemore.

[OceanEleven]

Chey, next time better don't do anything lagi best. TMD, in the past I also denied becos I really did not bio anything. CCB, sometimes was pinched near my eye lid somemore.
Haha, my friend better, he is short sighted and minimum 500deg each eye, he kanna fxxk jialat jialat when he went swimming with GF, she accused him of bioing gals. For god's sake, he cant see even a bloody elephant charging at him without his glasses. :cool:

[suteerak1099]

its funny at times when they react at the tiniest slip-ups we commit, when they by all graciousness and grandeur be pardoned for their major slip-ups. the guy gets pinched or smacked for looking in general directions, or if not checking blindspot - its man's natural instinct, especially when adopting a more protective/authoratative character when in a relationship

the gal on the other hand, can boldly wow and blow whistles at any or every hot-bod/babyface that passes by. sometimes, even got the cheek to compare and pass sarcastic comments, ie: "dar, time for u to stop downing 6packs, work on those abs - sexy is the man w 6pack abs", "dar, see how loving that hunk is? can carry all the shopping bags for his dear, why cant you??", "dar, look at that guy at the KFC counter, is that his wallet or has he been working out?"...etc

its perfectly alright for them to smack us, while we're charged w assault/abuse for even the slightest teasing spank lol. 天理何在~！

[red-perrier]

its funny at times when they react at the tiniest slip-ups we commit, when they by all graciousness and grandeur be pardoned for their major slip-ups. ....the gal on the other hand, can boldly wow and blow whistles at any or every hot-bod/babyface that passes by. sometimes, even got the cheek to compare and pass sarcastic comments....its perfectly alright for them to smack us, while we're charged w assault/abuse for even the slightest teasing spank lol. 天理何在~！
not to mention the occassional entrapments, so they validate the reasons to smack us more. eg:
ger: "dear, you think that ger chio or not?"
guy: "wah! not bad lah, complexion & features gd - quite chio"
ger: "really meh? more chio than me meh? how about that 1 in the dress?"
guy: "wah! thunder thighs, but complexion & features still gd - quite chio"
ger: "really meh? more chio than me meh?"
guy: "i never compare her with you lah, you ask, so i give honest opinions lor"
ger: "but why you have to say that she's chio?! that means i'm not chio to you anymore lah? grown sick & tired of me liao!"
guy: "no no no, i never meant it that way"
ger: "its ok, fine! no wonder you dont call me as often as before, you're now less concerned about my life!"

to resolve the whole matter, guy need to get on knees to apologize, or buy something to pamper & make up for his MISTAKE(s) lol

[vesfreq]

Haha, my friend better, he is short sighted and minimum 500deg each eye, he kanna fxxk jialat jialat when he went swimming with GF, she accused him of bioing gals. For god's sake, he cant see even a bloody elephant charging at him without his glasses. :cool:

*Plants an anti-personnel mine* Any damn bloody elephant will now be blown into smithereens, if it has the balls to charge forward. :D

Your friend very suay siah.

[red-perrier]

sometimes, things that the woman says/demands can really confuse us big time. and when it comes to sex... whoa hohohoho... it'd hurt where it hurts most.......

scenario: its been months and the man being restless and in dire need of some action intiates it...
guy: dar, r u thinking wat i'm thinking?
ger: wat?? but i dont need it today, no wonder u been sending me those naughty sms all day.
guy: c'mon lah dar, i havent disappointed u, have i?
ger: true, u do know how to make things work both ways, but i'm tired and the time of the month is due soon.
guy: aiyah, u mean we gotta wait till after???
ger: dear, pls lah.. i'm not feeling up to it, dont wanna disappoint u while at it.
guy: sigh...... ok lah... guess i'll just have to go relief it myself.
ger: grin...thanx for understanding dear...love u

scenario: a wk after the mensus, the woman now in need and intiates, dourns the freshly purchased see-thru lingerie to bed...
ger: dear, look at the new lingerie i bought today... u like? <CFM look>
guy: wah! so thin! as good as not wearing anything... dont snatch the quilt from me tonight hor
ger: tsk! aiyah dear... didnt u see the chain of sms i sent u today? <whining>
(guy lying in bed- drifting into sleep)
guy : aiyah, i couldnt. i was in the midst of a conference, didnt read much too.
(ger snuggles up to the guy and blows gently into the ear)
ger: i want to serve u tonight...
guy: huh?? not tonight dar, i'm too tired... the wine and heavy dinner w the clients...<yawn>
(ger flares! and wakes guy up)
ger: how come u dont want?!! just last wk u were asking, then now the time of the month's just past and i'm ready... u decline??
guy: i had a heavy dinner and the wine's making me drowsy... surely u dont want me to spill my dinner on u while we're at it ya??
ger: c'mon, out with it... ! this new lingerie cant even turn u on?? tell me, where else did u entertain your clients?!!
guy: no where, just dinner + wine and sent them back to hotel, b4 i head home...
ger: i don't believe, u men all the same.. when u want it, u just want it.. never bother about our feelings.
(ger whips out the vibrator and storms to the bathroom)
guy: what have i done to upset u... ??

when the man need it, it alright if he doesnt get it... when the woman need it, the man'd die if he didnt give it. :eek:

[andyhp]

here is a VERY ODD one

when girls ask you for their comment for which skirt/top to get, either way also get "tio bua" by them

1) both also nice = they will reply "cant you give a comment?"

2) the left/right one = "why leh?"

my personal experience from answering number 2, "left one. at least it's more happening, it's the current trend now also"

then she reply "knn, you gay or wad?"


moral of the story.. even reply properly also kenna from the girl. might as well dont answer.

[siambu]

According to a medical report, a Ger's decision faculty is somewhat more complexed than that of a guy. A lot of 'what-ifs' but apparently, it goes into an eternal loop with no clear conclusion. :cool:

Cheers
Yo bro ur nick is unique hee hee saw it also in blur ger thread wat does tat means huh? sorry haha

sammy jnr where r u? i cant find ur post lei pm me can? hee hee

sorry off topic hee hee

[Vigour]

After reading all the post for the past morning, i found that some of u guys really gd man, u can joke.......hahaha....
My love one just leave me, i very sad also. but end of the day i found out one thing dont know whether u guys agree anot.
We guys go for Gan Qing, yi qi, but gals go for FEELING.
So oneday if the feeling is not right, that it.

[whitegals]

After the swim, my ex pulled a cheeby black face whole day. I asked her why, she say nothing, i knew there was something, so i persisted. In the end, she said:" just now u swim side stroke because you bioing a girl!"


Next time ask her, would she prefer it if you were bioing a guy? :D

[Five Stone]

We guys go for Gan Qing, yi qi, but gals go for FEELING.
So oneday if the feeling is not right, that it.

Man goes for something that is more practical and within grasp. We can be flexible and blend in with the environment to accommodate to the situation without batting an eyelid; woman on the other hand, will grasp the slightest opportunity to start an outburst of unrealistic stipulation pinning on the finest detail, entailing just next to nothing.

The continuous pursue of the feel good factor dictates in their scope of understanding of a good relationship. And more realistically, the feel good factor applied in only one way – Their way. It never fails to astound the both sexes, yes both sexes, when both see the “amazing talent” of a woman unleashing her supremacy over unfathomable matters, even the she standing beside you will shake her head in disgust while witnessing the unfolding events. But yet the most ironical part is that, she may be disgusted with what she saw but never with what she does given in the same situation. Yes, it is back to the feeling factor again.

End of day, it doesn’t matter with what you do, say, think. What matters is what she feels. :cool:

[oakleyeug]

With the current situation of gals and ladies alike I come across many kinds of gers, some who are all out to cheat you making u robert, some are out to have fun making u their sex dolls, some are out to find love but was cheated by guys too much they give up etc etc....

Men talk Qing Yi which I don think is very true also, if got Qing got Yi then y are we in this website finding out nice places to play? Yi Qi is only among true bros who will listen to you and help u when u r down, help u to climb back when u r down to the rock bottom. Like I mention in one of the thread genie also give up when men wish for a mind to understand gals.

I also don know if penning my thoughts here is rite or wrong but no flaming please. I think I hit rock bottom again.

Oak

[OceanEleven]

A sign in the Bank Lobby reads:

"Please note that this Bank is installing new "Drive-through" teller machines. Customers will be able to withdraw cash without leaving their vehicles. To enable customers to use this new facility the following procedures have been drawn up. Please read the procedure that applies to your own circumstances, MALE or FEMALE, and remember them when you use the machine for the first time."

MALE PROCEDURE
1 Drive up to the cash machine.
2 Put down your car window.
3 Insert card into machine and enter PIN.
4 Enter amount of cash required and withdraw.
5 Retrieve card, cash and receipt
6 Put window up
7 Drive off

FEMALE PROCEDURE
1 Drive up to cash machine
2 Reverse and back up the required amount to align car window to machine
3 Set parking Brake, put the window down
4 Find handbag, remove all contents on to passenger seat to locate card
5 Turn the radio down
6 Attempt to insert card into machine
7 Open car door to allow easier access to machine due to its excessive distance from the car
8 Insert card
9 Re-insert card the right way up
10 Dig through handbag to find diary with your PIN written on the inside back page
11 Enter PIN.
12 Press cancel and re-enter correct PIN.
13 Enter amount of cash required
14 Check make up in rear view mirror
15 Retrieve cash and receipt
16 Empty handbag again to locate wallet and place cash inside
17 Place receipt in back of checkbook
18 Re-check make-up again
19 Drive forward 2 feet
20 Reverse back to cash machine
21 Retrieve card
22 Re-empty hand bag, locate card holder, and place card into the slot provided
23 Give appropriate hand signal to irate male driver queuing behind
24 Restart stalled engine and pull off
25 Drive for 2 to 3 miles
26 Release Parking Brake

[Five Stone]

This is funny. Always see women in queue at ATM, when their turn then start digging in their handbags for the ATM card while the people behind continue to wait.:cool:

[Deep Blue]

This is so true, always see girls in queue wasting time, I saw once there was this woman in queue at the ATM chatting on her mobile and when her turn come, she continue chatting and the guy behind her cut her out and she LL. :cool:

[beck7777]

well before we carry on i believe girls have their fair share to complain about us guys.. eg.. SOCCER!!! beer n why we cant just keep our eyes on them only etc... but then what i read here is so so true! the more we try to undrstand girls the more difficult it gets.... usually i will ask what my girl want... eg "what u wanna eat?" , "wanna catch a show?" etc... of cos the ans is usually 'anything loh"... so when they complain about what i get or what to do, i FxxK her n say dun make noise when u said anything in the 1st place... but then i always try my best to give her what she really want... well bros, what to do? we cant live with them, but i confirm CANT live WITHOUT them! :D

[OceanEleven]

Man are born to please woman, neither are woman born to please man. It is the mutual understand, give and take will go a long way.:)

[vesfreq]

This is so true, always see girls in queue wasting time, I saw once there was this woman in queue at the ATM chatting on her mobile and when her turn come, she continue chatting and the guy behind her cut her out and she LL. :cool:

Thats why I usually go for queues which comprise mainly (or all) guys. For guys, everything is always "chop chop", but girls will always be doing all kinds of stuff .... and hogging the atm. wtf. -_-

Never let a woman decide anything. Decide for yourself and make it final, otherwise waste .... time.

If you don't know what to do, pretend you know.

If she say she has 3 or more suitors, tell her "bring em on". :D

[beck7777]

girls... funny creatures.... what to do? when u have u complain, dun have oso complain... haiz....

[OceanEleven]

Thats why I usually go for queues which comprise mainly (or all) guys. For guys, everything is always "chop chop", but girls will always be doing all kinds of stuff .... and hogging the atm. wtf. -_-

Never let a woman decide anything. Decide for yourself and make it final, otherwise waste .... time.

If you don't know what to do, pretend you know.

If she say she has 3 or more suitors, tell her "bring em on". :D
Yes, bring it on. show me what you got. If you think you deserve someone better then so be it. I will never stop you for a greener pastures. ;)

[suteerak1099]

dont mean to be chauvenistic here. but somehow, across all cultures & religious influences/practices... woman exist to assist/accompany/accomodate Man.

Sad to say, in today's context... its not so much about equal rights/equal standings, in fact fast becoming... Man exist to Serve Woman.

1) its bliss if, "she" is the reason for the man to excel.
2) it becomes tragedy when, "she" is the cause for the man to excel.
(and vice versa)

hence, she's either the pride-rock, or, the stumble block for the man. agree??

[beck7777]

dont mean to be chauvenistic here. but somehow, across all cultures & religious influences/practices... woman exist to assist/accompany/accomodate Man.

Sad to say, in today's context... its not so much about equal rights/equal standings, in fact fast becoming... Man exist to Serve Woman.

1) its bliss if, "she" is the reason for the man to excel.
2) it becomes tragedy when, "she" is the cause for the man to excel.
(and vice versa)

hence, she's either the pride-rock, or, the stumble block for the man. agree??

Yeah bro... in a way you are rite... haiz... not easy to be a man now... :o

[OceanEleven]

dont mean to be chauvenistic here. but somehow, across all cultures & religious influences/practices... woman exist to assist/accompany/accomodate Man.

Sad to say, in today's context... its not so much about equal rights/equal standings, in fact fast becoming... Man exist to Serve Woman.

Well, I dont think that this is that MCP afterall, given the status and the progress of the society nowadays, woman deserve the equal rights as a man BUT only when not the benefits of the weaker sex as well. :cool:

[vesfreq]

After reading all the post for the past morning, i found that some of u guys really gd man, u can joke.......hahaha....
My love one just leave me, i very sad also. but end of the day i found out one thing dont know whether u guys agree anot.
We guys go for Gan Qing, yi qi, but gals go for FEELING.
So oneday if the feeling is not right, that it.

Girls are intellectually imperceptible creatures. Pretty ones are, as far as my office is concerned, either attached/ married or left on the shelf (cos' of some obvious reasons).

Worse is when you don't like her and she like you. But, when you decided to fall for her, she don't you anymore. Honestly, difficult to understand.

There was this girl in my office. She is quite pretty and single. Her colleague hinted me to try. But, whenever I asked her out (for lunch/ dinner/ coffee), its always the same reply "need to do shopping lei." or "got appt with friend".

Finally, on her birthday, her good pal let the cat out of the bag, "oh, she got to meet someone later." That was good enough a clue to me. Someone = one person.

Lesson I always bear in mind is that guy should only put in half of his love for the girl. Never fall too deeply for a girl. Historically, women are a cause of the downfall of great nations and men. For man to fall too deeply for a girl, he will have difficulties recovering, if girl ditch him. It is so damn true. I'm sure a lot of the guys know what it is like.

And, always find out when the girl last break up, cos' you will never want to be the .... "standby" man. :( Yea, I kenna this one before. Girl went back to ex-bf, after I bought her stuff and flowers. -_-

[vesfreq]

moral of the story.. even reply properly also kenna from the girl. might as well dont answer.

Light travels straight. But, mind of a girl always meander and scatters at random.

Allow me to use this analogy (from physics)

Alpha particles travel in straight lines, but has weak penetrating power.
But, gamma particles travel in no fixed patterns, but has tremendous penetrating power. Sounds familiar?

Taken from my nephew's text. :D

One girl (chio bu) used to tell me that girls need to be listened to. So, I tried my best to listen to her whenever she talked to me. One day, she stopped calling me. I checked out her blog.... only to discover that she already had a bf for a while. Listening ear?

Chio bu 2 came into my life. Talked to me often about her problematic bf. Conversation with her almost always carried a strong hint that she wanted advice from me. So, I told her to grow out it. After that, she broke up with her ex. Went back to her ex. And, then broke up with her ex. -_-

Girls don't need answers, sometimes. Pretty ones need some verbal thrashing, occasionally (but, only if you already have someone). Those you don't like, just be frank. Now, I learnt the power of lying. :D

[suteerak1099]

its quite wierd these days, it seems the reasons/objectives of having a spouse has warped. Becoming no different from the good-old match making days. couples married for financial benefits, trend that friends/relatives getting settled down, cant wait to co-own a pathetic pigeon coup... etc. where's the love??

criterias of finding a prospecting bf/gf too is fast becoming an irony of the mental projection often shared in secular conversations too. if its not based on interests/past-times, then its simply just based on sex. guy attracted to the gal's sets of curves, gal attracted to guy's sets of wheels...

from which both, co-exploit 1 another for whatever they're worth... until a new target comes along. sigh.. damn jialat

[OceanEleven]

This rant was written for the Wharton Undergraduate Journal and contributed by another bro. Let us propose a toast to the Nice Guys. :D


Ode to the Nice Guys

This is a tribute to the nice guys. The nice guys that finish last, that never become more than friends, that endure hours of whining and bitching about what assholes guys are, while disproving the very point. This is dedicated to those guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on but restrain themselves to tentative hugs, those guys who hold open doors and give reassuring pats on the back and sit patiently outside the changing room at department stores. This is in honor of the guys that obligingly reiterate how cute/beautiful/smart/funny/sexy their female friends are at the appropriate moment, because they know most girls need that litany of support. This is in honor of the guys with open minds, with laid-back attitudes, with honest concern. This is in honor of the guys who respect a girl’s every facet, from her privacy to her theology to her clothing style.

This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from parties and never take advantage once they’re at her door, for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules in a game where the rules favor cheaters, for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don’t end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated, for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and unjustly abandoned, this is for you.


This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on your cell phone, and when you called her back, she spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she shouldn’t worry about it. This is for that time she interrupted the best killing spree you’d ever orchestrated in GTA3 to rant about a rumor that romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the most repulsive person in the world. And even though you thought it was immature and you had nothing against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and helped her concoct a counter-rumor to spread around the floor. This is also for that time she didn’t have a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing “serious” between the two of you, she dragged you to a party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: “oh, but we’re just friends!” And even though you were invited purely as a symbolic warm body for her ego, you went anyways. Because you’re nice like that.

The nice guys don’t often get credit where credit is due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don’t seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I could logically explain this trend, but I can’t. From what I have observed on campus and what I have learned from talking to friends at other schools and in the workplace, the only conclusion I can form is that many girls are just illogical, manipulative bitches. Many of them claim they just want to date a nice guy, but when presented with such a specimen, they say irrational, confusing things such as “oh, he’s too nice to date” or “he would be a good boyfriend but he’s not for me” or “he already puts up with so much from me, I couldn’t possibly ask him out!” or the most frustrating of all: “no, it would ruin our friendship.” Yet, they continue to lament the lack of datable men in the world, and they expect their too-nice-to-date male friends to sympathize and apologize for the men that are jerks. Sorry, guys, girls like that are beyond my ability to fathom. I can’t figure out why the connection breaks down between what they say (I want a nice guy!) and what they do (I’m going to sleep with this complete ass now!). But one thing I can do, is say that the nice-guy-finishes-last phenomenon doesn’t last forever. There are definitely many girls who grow out of that train of thought and realize they should be dating the nice guys, not taking them for granted. The tricky part is finding those girls, and even trickier, finding the ones that are single.

So, until those girls are found, I propose a toast to all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know you’re sick of hearing yourself described as ubiquitously nice. But the truth of the matter is, the world needs your patience in the department store, your holding open of doors, your party escorting services, your propensity to be a sucker for a pretty smile. For all the crazy, inane, absurd things you tolerate, for all the situations where you are the faceless, nameless hero, my accolades, my acknowledgement, and my gratitude go out to you. You do have credibility in this society, and your well deserved vindication is coming. ;)

[iloveoversea]

The nice guys don’t often get credit where credit is due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don’t seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I could logically explain this trend, but I can’t. But one thing I can do, is say that the nice-guy-finishes-last phenomenon doesn’t last forever. There are definitely many girls who grow out of that train of thought and realize they should be dating the nice guys, not taking them for granted. The tricky part is finding those girls, and even trickier, finding the ones that are single.


Haha This is a nice one.

So what nice guys are suppose to do?

Go GL?:rolleyes:

[Five Stone]

Light travels straight. But, mind of a girl always meander and scatters at random.

Girls don't need answers, sometimes. Pretty ones need some verbal thrashing, occasionally (but, only if you already have someone). Those you don't like, just be frank. Now, I learnt the power of lying. :D
I disagree bro. Girls dont need answers, they just need to hear what they want to hear, irregardless the fact or the truth. To them, the truth is what they think. :o

[suteerak1099]

.......Girls dont need answers, they just need to hear what they want to hear, irregardless the fact or the truth. To them, the truth is what they think. :o come to think of it, sometimes the gals dont even know what question to ask, dont know what they themselves really want etc. without a proper question... i guess there's hardly any logical/rational answer from us guys.

no hard feelings, but just some analogies of our typical sg gals:

she wanna go havoc in md sultan, yet forbids her guy to patronize those haunts. she dourns revealing attire when out partying (strangers feast their eyes & fantasy on), but forbids her guy to even turn his head to glance at another female passing-by (not pretty - pardonable, sexy or pretty - he gets it from her)...

.... and at the end of the day, she sulks saying: "is it too much to as for? all i want is just a man whom i can cherish, and that him to love & protect me... bla bla bla" :p

[iloveoversea]

just some analogies of our typical sg gals:

she wanna go havoc in md sultan, yet forbids her guy to patronize those haunts. she dourns revealing attire when out partying (strangers feast their eyes & fantasy on), but forbids her guy to even turn his head to glance at another female passing-by (not pretty - pardonable, sexy or pretty - he gets it from her)...


Well when i was still serving NS, i got a friend whose gf are like what u just describe. The best method he used are learnt from the army. F&FO (F**K and F**k Off):D

[Deep Blue]

.... and at the end of the day, she sulks saying: "is it too much to as for? all i want is just a man whom i can cherish, and that him to love & protect me... bla bla bla" :p
At some point in time, we will cross this path, time and again we will be lost and find the relation aimless, pointless. At this cross road junction, I can only hope love can hep us alive.:)

[Hound]

I still remember I used to know a girl who i thought was damn happening. She was also damn good in bed. So me being me decided to ask she wanted to do a threesome.... wah lau all hell break loose and even broke up with me saying that I am a pervert, I dont love her etc etc etc Im sure u know the rest what I mean:mad:
A few years later i got to know a guy from work and we became quite close. went to his house one day and saw some home made VCDS he did. Guess what the bitch was in one of them screwing him and his two friends with another gal!!! Imagine my shock!!! Recognised her from the tattoo she had on her body.. So much for being decent and rightous hahaha

[Deep Blue]

A few years later i got to know a guy from work and we became quite close. went to his house one day and saw some home made VCDS he did. Guess what the bitch was in one of them screwing him and his two friends with another gal!!! Imagine my shock!!! Recognised her from the tattoo she had on her body.. So much for being decent and rightous hahaha
It is a small world outsie, people change over time. So much so can be said only......:o

[beck7777]

she wanna go havoc in md sultan, yet forbids her guy to patronize those haunts. she dourns revealing attire when out partying (strangers feast their eyes & fantasy on), but forbids her guy to even turn his head to glance at another female passing-by (not pretty - pardonable, sexy or pretty - he gets it from her)...

.... and at the end of the day, she sulks saying: "is it too much to ask for? all i want is just a man whom i can cherish, and that him to love & protect me... bla bla bla" :p

yo bro you are not the only one... my ex actually got the cheek to scold me for being angry when she said she will be spending sat nite playing mahjong with her ex instead of company me!!!

but when i told her i going with a groups of friends(guys n gals) and 1 of them used to like me alot, she nearly kill me!

so much for the 'equal' treatment...

[suteerak1099]

......so much for the 'equal' treatment... its just wierd i reckon. its quite noticeable that they demand alot from the guys, enjoy all the attention, love & affection etc. but when it comes to reciprocation... more often than not... end up with anti-climax.

not so much of national discrimination, but as i've observed... the upbringing & environment plays a big sublimal part in their behaviour, character & expectations.

correct me if i'm wrong, but its often those that've undergone humbling experiences, or, have less complicated backgrounds, that are likely to demonstrate/reciprocate/display their affection/appreciation for the guy. whilst those that havent.. well... u know the rest.

[suteerak1099]

Haha This is a nice one.

So what nice guys are suppose to do?

Go GL?:rolleyes: not trying to suggest anything here, but sometimes, good things are found in places least expected. rare, but can still be found. :p

[Five Stone]

not trying to suggest anything here, but sometimes, good things are found in places least expected. rare, but can still be found. :p
Lots of effort and time needed but people nowadays prefer to choose the easy way out.......:cool:

[vesfreq]

correct me if i'm wrong, but its often those that've undergone humbling experiences, or, have less complicated backgrounds, that are likely to demonstrate/reciprocate/display their affection/appreciation for the guy. whilst those that havent.. well... u know the rest.

You are right. Character moulding plays a critical role.

Imagine gf is a lawyer. And, guy is a humble mechanic working his a$$ out to support his wheels and pak tor with gf.

Girls look down on guys too easily and they have more reason to do so than not. Comparing bfs seem like a favourite past time among the girls today. Somehow, I think guys are looked upon like groceries in the market.

Hmm...

[xiangso]

[QUOTE=Hound]I still remember I used to know a girl who i thought was damn happening. She was also damn good in bed. So me being me decided to ask she wanted to do a threesome.... wah lau all hell break loose and even broke up with me saying that I am a pervert,
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maybe she did it in the end only after the idea was planted in the head by you....but sadly the guys that come after benefitted......:o

[Five Stone]

Girls look down on guys too easily and they have more reason to do so than not. Comparing bfs seem like a favourite past time among the girls today. Somehow, I think guys are looked upon like groceries in the market.

Hmm...
Come to think about it, you are quite right about this. It seems a favourite past time comparing boyfriends, comparing how rich, how nice, what gift they buy etc. Seems like an neverending vicious cycles and yet the girls never seem to get enough of it. :cool:

[Tanjon2]

Being gers. There was once when I told my wife that I am going drinking with my friends whom she knows, she make a big hoo ha over it.

So I asked her along but she don't want, so I ask her go shopping and I meet her 1 hour later. After that in my car she says I smell like shit with the alcohol on me. Never mind, go home quarrel until like want to divorce. After that cool off.

Sometime down the road, 1 evening she says want to go drinking with her friends and I said "I go drink you make hell lot of noise, now you going with your friend", she says " friend only ma, catch up ma" in my mind I was thinking "ho sei liao" next time I go you cannot complain.

Women are really sometimes full of shit, really sometimes its bcos of family commitment, bo bian. KNN.

[Sureshoot]

:eek:
ya.. think such comparison not very healthy.

[FDSeah]

I am getting marry in 5 months....still feel abit confuse and worry...
As u guys know woman is very scary things....but still man cant live without them so what to do.
Thinking of need to spent so much money on the wedding make me feel head spin...
What do the woman do??Just sit there wait for us man to earn money to feed them!!!

My GF told me that she want to quit her job because she need to perpair for the wedding??Then i ask: how long u plan to rest? GF: 6month loh..
Me: Are u crazy!!!u need 6 month to perpair? who going to feed u in this 6 month?? GF: u loh...
CB!!!F***King CB!! I am working so hard to save as much money as i can for the wedding. Yet she say she need 6 month to rest and perpair for the wedding!!

Dam it!!!

[Five Stone]

[QUOTE=Hound]I still remember I used to know a girl who i thought was damn happening. She was also damn good in bed. So me being me decided to ask she wanted to do a threesome.... wah lau all hell break loose and even broke up with me saying that I am a pervert,
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maybe she did it in the end only after the idea was planted in the head by you....but sadly the guys that come after benefitted......:o
I think in a way she changed over the years, more liberal, open minded but still she is no longer the same girl he once knew.......;)

[vesfreq]

My GF told me that she want to quit her job because she need to perpair for the wedding??Then i ask: how long u plan to rest? GF: 6month loh..
Me: Are u crazy!!!u need 6 month to perpair? who going to feed u in this 6 month?? GF: u loh...
CB!!!F***King CB!! I am working so hard to save as much money as i can for the wedding. Yet she say she need 6 month to rest and perpair for the wedding!!

Dam it!!!

Bro, take it cool.

At least, you are still sensible enough to save money for the wedding. Her point about stopping work for 6 months does sound ridiculous.

If I were in your position (don't follow me), I would spend the money on "kept" women. At least, after all the bonk, still can ask the girl to fly kite or meet another day.

Wives, at the end of the day, are like extra baggage in a SOC run. Motivating to have, at the start of the run. But, damn demotivating to carry, while clearing the low wall. Laggi worse when running to clear the last few hundred meters. :( Wait a min..... there is no last few hundred meters in a marriage, unless got divorce. OMG!

[Blue_gal]

I wil LOVE BLUe UNCLE more after all these!! AND I will WANNA to be a BETTER WOMAN!!!!

but then guys dun burn the whole forest just because of ONE BAD tree you had once had before.... there are still a lots of "GOOD, better.. BEST" woman out there for you! :)

cheer!
BitChy BLue UnCLe!

[axeman24]

I wil LOVE BLUe UNCLE more after all these!! AND I will WANNA to be a BETTER WOMAN!!!!

but then guys dun burn the whole forest just because of ONE BAD tree you had once had before.... there are still a lots of "GOOD, better.. BEST" woman out there for you! :)

cheer!
BitChy BLue UnCLe!

Well I guess BG is right, just because of one bad tree does not mean the rest of the trees are bad just that we have not met see a good one yet :rolleyes:

[vesfreq]

Well I guess BG is right, just because of one bad tree does not mean the rest of the trees are bad just that we have not met see a good one yet :rolleyes:

I like your kind of optimism. However, it carries a bold assumption that one is able to retain his/her faith in meeting a "good one" and he/she lives long enough before the necessity of an unexpected hasty spiritual departure to meet the almighty above the heavens. Sigh....

Optimism, which is never reciprocated with the fruition of one's wait for the "good one", is bound to appreciate into tremendous cynicism towards .... the mentioning of the word "love" or, for that matter, the "right one".

It wasn't about one bad tree, but the many rotten apples. :(

[OceanEleven]

Think of marriage, think of divorce, both once in a lifetime as well (maybe). I wonder do we need to quit our job six months before and prepare for it as well. :cool:

[OceanEleven]

Well I guess BG is right, just because of one bad tree does not mean the rest of the trees are bad just that we have not met see a good one yet :rolleyes:
Why count the eggs before they hatch, why not you stick your head out on the chopping board before you make a comment. Perhaps an experienced you might concur with what we say. ;)

[One Man]

Why count the eggs before they hatch, why not you stick your head out on the chopping board before you make a comment. Perhaps an experienced you might concur with what we say. ;)

I guess to each he own that what I can comment.

[One Man]

Why count the eggs before they hatch, why not you stick your head out on the chopping board before you make a comment. Perhaps an experienced you might concur with what we say. ;)

Sorry double posting

[axeman24]

Why count the eggs before they hatch, why not you stick your head out on the chopping board before you make a comment. Perhaps an experienced you might concur with what we say. ;)

Well bro,

Just to say that it is precisely that I had put my head on the chopping board before that I stand by the comment that I make. I have had a ex who is a divorcee who have told me she have no love forher ex husband and ends up having sex with him when he begs her to go back to him. I have another ex who likes to buy expensive stuff and wants me to pay for it till I own credit card almost 50K which I can be declare bankrucy if I don't pay them back and she broke up with me when I tell her I cannot afford her kind of life style. Yet I still believe there are "good trees" around cos I have personally seen it myself as a few of my friends have found their "good trees" whom they are husband and wife now. So now you tell me whether I have the right to make the comment I did or not :cool:

[Curry Chicken]

Yet I still believe there are "good trees" around cos I have personally seen it myself as a few of my friends have found their "good trees" whom they are husband and wife now. So now you tell me whether I have the right to make the comment I did or not
Bro axeman sad to know about ur sad past...
I agree with u and i sincerely hope u will find that good tree which u r looking for.:)

[OceanEleven]

Well bro,
So now you tell me whether I have the right to make the comment I did or not :cool:
Point noted, bro. I guess I had not seen the light side of the matters so far. Things happening and revolving around me are better left shelfed and forgotten. I hope to see the good trees as well too but been failed too many a time. :)

[axeman24]

Point noted, bro. I guess I had not seen the light side of the matters so far. Things happening and revolving around me are better left shelfed and forgotten. I hope to see the good trees as well too but been failed too many a time. :)

Well bro,

I guess for me the 2 lesson has taught me to be more alert when choosing a gf. I used to dive in on any opportunity that arises but end up it didn't work out. So now I tends to be more passive in terms of relationship cos it helps me to keep a open mind on the gals and also get the feel of how they think of me :D

[OceanEleven]

Well bro,

I guess for me the 2 lesson has taught me to be more alert when choosing a gf. I used to dive in on any opportunity that arises but end up it didn't work out. So now I tends to be more passive in terms of relationship cos it helps me to keep a open mind on the gals and also get the feel of how they think of me :D
Slowly but surely. Take your time in understanding each other, be upfront and honest. Sharing of thoughts is important and never take each other for granted. :)

[suteerak1099]

........My GF told me that she want to quit her job because she need to perpair for the wedding??Then i ask: how long u plan to rest? GF: 6month loh..
Me: Are u crazy!!!u need 6 month to perpair? who going to feed u in this 6 month?? GF: u loh...
CB!!!F***King CB!! I am working so hard to save as much money as i can for the wedding. Yet she say she need 6 month to rest and perpair for the wedding!!

Dam it!!! well, its very simple... many gals these days (especially sg-gals)... to them, the wedding is the only thing they live for. she want to be the prettiest bride in the most unforgetable wedding (regardless of the life-threatening costs incurred)...etc.

if the guy cant afford her dream wedding, he jolly well drop dead. all the hassle and frenzy... but hey! did anyone check to see if the groom-to-be is still breathing (bcos he been fasting to save for the KILLER wedding)??

women are irrational creatures, they live for the 1 day, that 1 special wedding day. to them, there's no life after wedding... they forget in life, its the marriage that's improtant. the wedding is just for formality sake - to tell the world that she's not left on the shelf and expired.

[bhs72]

talking about marriage, this just happened to me today.....

gf: when r we getting registered?
me: erhmmmm......30th next month?

gf smiled and went to work happily.....

after work......

gf: when did u say we will get registered?
me: erhmmmmm...30th next month?

and then i couldn't help but started laughing, since it took her one whole day to figure out that feb has no 30th (din say 29th next month as i wasn't sure if it was leap year or not)....but too bad she didn't think it was funny and the faced had turned really black:rolleyes:

[beck7777]

well i feel in spore no $$ no marry....
and if you plan to have wedding dinner n stuff like that betta start saving now.... :(

[suteerak1099]

well i feel in spore no $$ no marry....
and if you plan to have wedding dinner n stuff like that betta start saving now.... :( saving now?? i believe it should be saving since a long time back. weddings these days just not as simple as it all seems. even the simple photo album/makeover could cost easily 6-7grand.

and with singaporean ethics (alot forget the meaning of RSVP), just imagine a banquet with poor turn out. the only way to avoid having clashed wedding invites on the same wkend... to throw the banquet during lunar 7th mth. this yr has extended lunar 7th mth... doubt there'd be problems booking ballrooms.

[beck7777]

saving now?? i believe it should be saving since a long time back. weddings these days just not as simple as it all seems. even the simple photo album/makeover could cost easily 6-7grand.

and with singaporean ethics (alot forget the meaning of RSVP), just imagine a banquet with poor turn out. the only way to avoid having clashed wedding invites on the same wkend... to throw the banquet during lunar 7th mth. this yr has extended lunar 7th mth... doubt there'd be problems booking ballrooms.


Doubt u have much guest as well bro.... :D

[bunnyrabbit]

but when i told her i going with a groups of friends(guys n gals) and 1 of them used to like me alot, she nearly kill me!

so much for the 'equal' treatment...


Yo bro! damn agree with this statement of yrs! my gal same same lah...

[Blue_gal]

talking about marriage, this just happened to me today.....

gf: when r we getting registered?
me: erhmmmm......30th next month?

gf smiled and went to work happily.....

after work......

gf: when did u say we will get registered?
me: erhmmmmm...30th next month?

and then i couldn't help but started laughing, since it took her one whole day to figure out that feb has no 30th (din say 29th next month as i wasn't sure if it was leap year or not)....but too bad she didn't think it was funny and the faced had turned really black


sorry to read about "the faced had turned really black" but I keep laffing after reading your post.......I am getting "smarter" each time after reading in here..Thank U! :D

Blue Aunt|e really did those stuffs you guys posted in here before, not denying the fact that WOMAN is an unreasonable creature at time..or "most of the time" especially when that time of the month...

Please note that the following might make your blood "BOILED" (yes, you guys)...after reading:

1) Shopping scene -
BA will ask BU, "which shirt is better? The blue or the black color?".
BU will said the blue, but BA will take the black color shirt because BA find black color look nice on BU.
[Reason - BA just want BU look nice, asking is just being polite]

2) Food to makan -
BU will ask, "what we going to makan tonight?".
BA reply, "anything you want lor" at the same time walking toward KFC and looking for seat.
[Reason - BA just want to help you decide and be respondsive, just being polite again]

3) I LOVE YOU -
BA " do you love me?".
BU "yes, I love you."
BA "Why you did not reply sincerely one? I can't feel that you really mean it and you really love me!"
BA angry and walked away.
[Reason - BA just want BU to show more when he said "I love you". It's time for BU to come out new idea when saying "I love you". BA just want BU to learn more]

We can be just one nasty, unreasonable creature in this world.
[B]BUT THEN We can be really nice and caring TOO...its just need some TIME for you to feel it in your heart...

Realtionship is about "giving and taking" from BOTH PARTY....The amount of "giving and taking" depends on HOW MUCH LOVE YOU HAVE FOR HIM/HER...

Not a R/S expert, just want to share my thoughts...GOOD LUCK! :)

cheer~
Bitchy BLue Aunt|e

[tryying]

Cannot tahan girls sometime. This is what I encounter this afternoon.

As I go to a certain salon quite often, I know the girls down there. Got one, 30+, like to wear sexy clothering. Nevermind, maybe is her style n furthermore, she is single. She like to flirt with me n let it be.

Got one time, she mention don't mind to be other mistress since cannot be the 1st. That was the day which I dare myself, want to take advantage of her when no one ard. She rejected, quoting that she not those any how kind. LL lor, in the end, goes into cold war.

This afternoon, let her cut for me as her skill is good (bed one, I don't know). Before cutting, I give her time to cut for other as long queue due to cny. I relax at a chair with my new Osim toy. While relaxing, we chit chat n she say that I willing to spend on a device for eyes only. I say 100+ ok for me since my eyes need a break sometime.

Nevermind that, when come to my turn, she just cut n cut. Then while rinising my hair, she told me that since she cannot be my wife, mistress also nvm. In my heart was thinking, WTF, last time want to naughty with u, u rejected like a decent woman. Today you told me this again? So, i just told her that even friends also can care la. But she slap me lightly n then continue facial. Don't know what does she want. Anyway, since last rejected action from her, I lost interest in her. Now got 2 targets, why should bother abt her even she is ON? Unless she asked me again while we alone, I sure have some plan for her, haha!

Can't stand woman friend sometimes who I know. Yes or No, you sure don't know. The answer will always be MAYBE! :confused:

[xiangso]

[QUOTE=suteerak1099]saving now?? i believe it should be saving since a long time back. weddings these days just not as simple as it all seems. even the simple photo album/makeover could cost easily 6-7grand.

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although i am no married. but based on a recent marriage of a kind relative, she even made profit on her wedding dinner. depends on who you invite and careful planning. anyone can comment whether making money on wedding dinner is common? curious to know

[suteerak1099]

Doubt u have much guest as well bro.... :D have.. plenty of "uninvited" guests aka gd bros who're looking for a feast:D

[suteerak1099]

although i am no married. but based on a recent marriage of a kind relative, she even made profit on her wedding dinner. depends on who you invite and careful planning. anyone can comment whether making money on wedding dinner is common? curious to know yes, SHE made a profit... while the groom suffered big losses. banquet these days very clearcut, when bills come, groom pay... when angbao come, gal side keep her share, guy side keep his share.

what the groom receive in angbao, sufficient to cover perhaps his own side of guest tables. remaining tables for the gal's guests... either he bleed cash on the day itself, or via credit and bleed later to the bank.

dont forget the 4 or 5 figure dowry (commonly comprise of cash + 4 golden gifts) upfront. sometimes, supersticious in-laws may also demand to have customary gifts (to observe tradition/culture)

p.s.: in wedding banquets, going dutch for the billing.. is unheard of.

[TangoRock]

Personal experience & quote from the newspaper once said,

"...it's the gals out there that needs to know that they're married & not the men..." (quote referring to SG gals though... , me now pending divorce)
You think guys are "eating" behind their back? Gals are enjoying their life after marriage much to your surprise...

Like bro Suteerak1099 said, they only live for & look forward to that Wedding Day... the rest is really depending if you meet the right gal.
(Guys who met their right gals, bless ya'all. Those didn't or have not, dun lose heart... we will somehow, someday... the right tree to shelter our hearts )

[beck7777]

Personal experience & quote from the newspaper once said,

"...it's the gals out there that needs to know that they're married & not the men..." (quote referring to SG gals though... , me now pending divorce)
You think guys are "eating" behind their back? Gals are enjoying their life after marriage much to your surprise...

Like bro Suteerak1099 said, they only live for & look forward to that Wedding Day... the rest is really depending if you meet the right gal.
(Guys who met their right gals, bless ya'all. Those didn't or have not, dun lose heart... we will somehow, someday... the right tree to shelter our hearts )

well i guess u'll never really know if the tree is the right 1 till something happen... hmm.... but then how many bros out there did managed to find the right tree? its not easy... i'm not married yet but i have seen happy 1s and marriages that fail around me... guess i can only exprience it myself to really know...

[suteerak1099]

finding the right tree... hmmm, in singapore the "trees" we find are those that uproot/fall during storms - just imagine what happens when monsoon comes along. lately, its also fast becoming a trend that they dont bear fruits.

i know some might disagree, but i suppose to have that right tree for a shelter, might require alot more hereon forth... and that is to sow the seed & wait for that tree to grow. sad to say, when its in full bloom, some cheapskate probably comes along to find shade under the same tree you've painstakingly pruned/groomed.

either that, or to settle for 1 that's still standing but badly battered from the storms, to prune & groom it to be the shady fruit bearing tree.

meanwhile, there's plenty of trees out there.. and i dont see why we continue searching in local soil (for what we may never find - knowing very well that they topple during wet weather), when there's plenty of well rooted shady and/or fruit bearing trees out there in foreign soil... perhaps even virgin forests.

seek and you shall find. ;)

[aikoN79]

i wanna get myself a jap or korean or vietnam tree ~~ local tress too expensive ~ kekeke

[beck7777]

i wanna get myself a jap or korean or vietnam tree ~~ local tress too expensive ~ kekeke

bro.. jap or korean tree wont come cheap either... well i did consider a vietnam tree before... a nice viet tree.... hehe~~~ :D

[SamiHyypia]

indeed.... at this stage of my life, i have already started thinking..maybe when its time to get married, a vietnam tree might be good...local trees...not say dont have good trees la...but its getting lesser and lesser....

[acid]

sigh last nite oso damn pissed wif gf...go to a pub in orchard gf ask drink wad since got 1 for 1...i told her beer...she go order 2x lychee margarita...den play pool ask me to teach her...ask me which ball to shoot...told her which but she die die go shoot other ball...den when she ask me again i dulanz...tell her that she ask i tell her but she got other ideas in mind den ask me for wad...

[vesfreq]

Well bro,

Just to say that it is precisely that I had put my head on the chopping board before that I stand by the comment that I make. I have had a ex who is a divorcee who have told me she have no love forher ex husband and ends up having sex with him when he begs her to go back to him. I have another ex who likes to buy expensive stuff and wants me to pay for it till I own credit card almost 50K which I can be declare bankrucy if I don't pay them back and she broke up with me when I tell her I cannot afford her kind of life style. Yet I still believe there are "good trees" around cos I have personally seen it myself as a few of my friends have found their "good trees" whom they are husband and wife now. So now you tell me whether I have the right to make the comment I did or not :cool:

Women are, in a sense, like cars. Get the wrong car and you are cursed for the next few years, until you decide that you want to sell off the car for a new one.

They depreciate through the course of time. Not necessarily prettier, but to become either more understanding or excessively prone to uncalled for acts of hostility.

I still remember one bro saying this in the same thread. ie, if you pamper the dog too much, you can't stop it from wanting more and can only choose to put down the dog. But, for a woman, if you pamper her too much, she demands for more and you cannot choose to put her down. Yet, one can certainly put her aside. (can't remember the bro's name and the exact wording)

The word "feeling" is so often used by women as a convenient instrument to accept a guy and to reject him minutes later.

I have seen "good" trees before, but they were never mine. Its always because of timing or just that the girl don't have "feeling". AFAIK, the only "feeling" I get these days is throwing money into a new car or PDA. Satisfaction is immediate, but just different from getting a gf.

One high school girl I met said that relationship is about the guy who is most aggressive and competitive winning the girl. Perhaps, this is what the modern girl wants a man to be able to do. IMO, her perspective was nothing more than one about a pack of hungry wolves dashing for a piece of the lamb's flesh.

To each his/her own, I suppose. I think girls are just like guys, in the sense that the former long for mutual respect from the guys as well.

[vesfreq]

indeed.... at this stage of my life, i have already started thinking..maybe when its time to get married, a vietnam tree might be good...local trees...not say dont have good trees la...but its getting lesser and lesser....

Well, it works out like this. You have $200,000 in assets (ie shares and etc), excluding your car and the HDB flat from your parents.

After reading the news of a SPG who had just divorced her Brit husband and getting away with more than half his assets, you (and the rest of the Sammboy guys) think twice, cos' marrying a Viet means minimising the legal risk exposure of the $200,000 worth of assets and you are comfortable with the Viet wife, knowing well that, in all likelihood, she will not run hit you with the Women's Charter.

Good local trees are mostly "chopped" already. Like one day, I saw my friend's friendster testimonial. She is quite sweet looking and mature. But, this testimonial from her friend stated that he is already in the "queue" and the rest of the guys should wait after him.

Oh well....

[suteerak1099]

i wanna get myself a jap or korean or vietnam tree ~~ local tress too expensive ~ kekeke pls be informed that jap/korean trees are not as cheap as perceived. they too have expensive tastes... but then again, in hind-sight... they pale in comparison to our local gals. :p

[suteerak1099]

sigh last nite oso damn pissed wif gf...go to a pub in orchard gf ask drink wad since got 1 for 1...i told her beer...she go order 2x lychee margarita...den play pool ask me to teach her...ask me which ball to shoot...told her which but she die die go shoot other ball...den when she ask me again i dulanz...tell her that she ask i tell her but she got other ideas in mind den ask me for wad... hehehehehe, well thats the trademark for most of our local gals.. they like to 脱裤子放屁 ;)

they ask for the sake of asking, in other words.. they're being polite in doing so. want to make us feel like 大男人，but in they end... they want to have their own say.

[suteerak1099]

One high school girl I met said that relationship is about the guy who is most aggressive and competitive winning the girl. Perhaps, this is what the modern girl wants a man to be able to do. IMO, her perspective was nothing more than one about a pack of hungry wolves dashing for a piece of the lamb's flesh. thats the thing about gals, they're thoughts/rationales change at the turn of the pages in the calendar. 1 moment she enjoys being sought after like a fowl in a hunting game, next moment she enjoys being protected like some priceless gem, then she cotradicts herself in wanting freedom, demands to be treated with respect and not a prize.

they cause the man to lose heart in giving her attention, yet all the more becoming irritating as she demands for more TLC. always on the receiving end, and giving is hardly in their agenda

[siamcutey]

hehehehehe, well thats the trademark for most of our local gals.. they like to 脱裤子放屁 ;)

they ask for the sake of asking, in other words.. they're being polite in doing so. want to make us feel like 大男人，but in they end... they want to have their own say.

Aiya, your Thai Gf also same. 脱裤子放屁

Give her bank account to so many men when she ORD from Cat40 Geylang. Then u come in forum to say your thanks to these sponsors for sponsoring her monthly without her being obligated to return the favour with sex. Then come in here and advised the sponsors to stop sponsoring her as she don't need the money anymore.

And I really think she made u feel like a 大男人, by telling u that the sponsors send her money but she never return the favour with sex. If this case is quoted on a SG girl, u sure say aiya, sure tio bao one, where got no sex.

This world, only your gf is angel.:D

hahaha
SC

[suteerak1099]

in ages past, when marriages were arranged by the parents, guarantees virginity and little or no unnecessary overhead for courtship, prior to the wedding.

decades ago, during the economic strains & recovery, courtship & dating were conducted with mutual respect, either payments going dutch, or taking turns to foot the bill.

today, most gals expect the man to pay, expect the man to shower her with love gifts...etc. giving in return is absent from her list of agenda. and so, she relents to intercourse when the guy requests... (bear in mind, intercourse is suppose to be mutual consent)... and when the relationship fails. she claims the guy to be a "BASTARD"!!

the question then comes to place... who was the BITCH all along??

IMHO, gals these days are becoming more like those in the flesh trade. the only difference is; most in the trade are doing it for the sake of family vs poverty... whilst material gals are doing it for personal gain.

and for that, i reckon those in the flesh trade command better respect, as their primary basis of taking on the job, is bourne of sacrificial love.

[OceanEleven]

There is no much satisfaction derive from a local gal, perhaps unless she herself had went thru sufficient relationship to truly understand the definition of what is involved in a relationship. Many a time she had failed to realize the need and the emotion of a man. We need our own space and have our own downs as well. We need time to lick our own wounds too and not able to tender to all her needs all the time. :cool:

[Five Stone]

I have seen "good" trees before, but they were never mine. Its always because of timing or just that the girl don't have "feeling". AFAIK, the only "feeling" I get these days is throwing money into a new car or PDA. Satisfaction is immediate, but just different from getting a gf.

To each his/her own, I suppose. I think girls are just like guys, in the sense that the former long for mutual respect from the guys as well.
“Good” trees are aplenty. Till the time we manage to find one, we have to continue assiduously to search for it. Even when we found one, we still have to put in the effort and time to groom and nurture her. ;)

[suteerak1099]

Aiya, your Thai Gf also same. 脱裤子放屁

Give her bank account to so many men when she ORD from Cat40 Geylang. Then u come in forum to say your thanks to these sponsors for sponsoring her monthly without her being obligated to return the favour with sex. Then come in here and advised the sponsors to stop sponsoring her as she don't need the money anymore.

And I really think she made u feel like a 大男人, by telling u that the sponsors send her money but she never return the favour with sex. If this case is quoted on a SG girl, u sure say aiya, sure tio bao one, where got no sex.

This world, only your gf is angel.:D

hahaha
SC SC, again i say.. you assume too much. by the way, your contribution seems quite personal and little or nothing to do with the thread topic. suggest you have this post removed... :rolleyes:

[siamcutey]

in ages past, when marriages were arranged by the parents, guarantees virginity and little or no unnecessary overhead for courtship, prior to the wedding.

decades ago, during the economic strains & recovery, courtship & dating were conducted with mutual respect, either payments going dutch, or taking turns to foot the bill.

today, most gals expect the man to pay, expect the man to shower her with love gifts...etc. giving in return is absent from her list of agenda. and so, she relents to intercourse when the guy requests... (bear in mind, intercourse is suppose to be mutual consent)... and when the relationship fails. she claims the guy to be a "BASTARD"!!

the question then comes to place... who was the BITCH all along??

IMHO, gals these days are becoming more like those in the flesh trade. the only difference is; most in the trade are doing it for the sake of family vs poverty... whilst material gals are doing it for personal gain.

and for that, i reckon those in the flesh trade command better respect, as their primary basis of taking on the job, is bourne of sacrificial love.

Is that why the other time your Cat40 girlfriend told you that this customer was a "bastard" due to the reason that their relationship failed?

So who was the bitch all along? Your gf?

If you want to love a WL, go ahead, but don't give us thousands of reasons that you deemed justifiable to substantiate your stand.

U want to say girls in flesh trade command better respect is okay, but look at what kind of girl you have before you come and tell us to give them respect. WLs got many kinds. There are many who don't need to cheat and con, these are the ones that deserved respect hor.

SC

[siamcutey]

SC, again i say.. you assume too much. by the way, your contribution seems quite personal and little or nothing to do with the thread topic. suggest you have this post removed... :rolleyes:

Sorry hor, I don't take back my words. If you are not happy with what I say, kindly use the report post command at the right hand corner and report to Sammyboy. :rolleyes:

SC

[OceanEleven]

today, most gals expect the man to pay, expect the man to shower her with love gifts...etc. giving in return is absent from her list of agenda. and so, she relents to intercourse when the guy requests... (bear in mind, intercourse is suppose to be mutual consent)... and when the relationship fails. she claims the guy to be a "BASTARD"!!

the question then comes to place... who was the BITCH all along??
It is always the case, no matter what happens in the end. Men tends to be the culprit for most failed marriages......:o

[t123]

It is always the case, no matter what happens in the end. Men tends to be the culprit for most failed marriages......:o

I agreed xiao mian yang.:D

[chioer]

Its not that nowadays girls always want their guys to buy this or buy that.... Just that you guys fuck us girls... Whats wrong if we ask you to pay for stuff when we are out? If you cant afford a girl, then dont think of bonking one mahz!

[vesfreq]

Guys, you should read today's Urban.

The two ladies in their 40s are results of them being tao and stuck up when they were younger. It also shows that even if a girl is sweet, she is still an unwanted fabric once age exacts its toll on her.

Historically (and even now), guys will always go for younger girls with fresher looks. This applies regardless of age, for the guys. And, this is where there is true fairness between the sexes. :D

Just imagine a group of bachelors in their 30s in the pub. And, compare that with what you can imagine about a group of spinsters in their 30s loittering in the pub. Yea, its an evil thought. But, the truth is apparent. Girls become ladies and eventually aunties.

For the bunch of guys in their 30s, there is always time to play (of course, assuming unmarried. ) I'm sure plenty of guys here are in their 30s and still playing.

But, what about the girls? For the spinsters' league, its time to step aside. Yea, its sad. Thats where humility is important. If the auntie was tao when she was young, people won't remember that.

Yes, the saying goes like "bad things always spread faster" and usually gets to stay around longer. But, wait a minute, the reason why people (especially guys) won't remember is because there will be more prettier young things coming up every year, not just during the festive seasons.

While the same group of bachelors drinking away for the past 1 or 2 decades are accumulating more wealth, experience and becoming more eligible. :D

[OceanEleven]

Man, like a good old wine, he mellows with age. :D

[suteerak1099]

Its not that nowadays girls always want their guys to buy this or buy that.... Just that you guys fuck us girls... Whats wrong if we ask you to pay for stuff when we are out? If you cant afford a girl, then dont think of bonking one mahz! intercourse has always been something mutual.. and if it costs something, be it gifts or whatsoever.. then... what difference is it to the transactions in the commercial sex scenes??

[siamcutey]

intercourse has always been something mutual.. and if it costs something, be it gifts or whatsoever.. then... what difference is it to the transactions in the commercial sex scenes??

U mean what, if your birthday your friends buy u a present means they want to "fuck" u?

Or if your birthday, your gf buy you a present means she wants you to service her?

If you think that by buying a gift for your gf insinuates that she is no different from a prostitute who gets money from customers, I suggest you just go fcuk prostitutes instead. SG girls don't need men like you. They are self-sufficient. Or you can try targetting your scope on Thai Prostitutes instead.

If you can marry a girl (irregardless of Prostitute or non-prostitute) without forking a single cent in gifts, wedding presents, presents, ceremony, maintenance etc, kindly please come and tell me.

I send you a flower wreath on your wedding day congratulating you on being a Gigolo. :rolleyes:

hahaha
SC

[OceanEleven]

Its not that nowadays girls always want their guys to buy this or buy that.... Just that you guys fuck us girls... Whats wrong if we ask you to pay for stuff when we are out? If you cant afford a girl, then dont think of bonking one mahz!

We are not talking about the sex, sex is nothing but just part of the package that comes along with a relationship. So far I have not come across a relationship that excludes sex. So from your reply seems that buying things is like a form of barter trading for sex. If yes then perhaps you got the wrong point here then. This is not what we a belting out here. No one complain anything about the sex they have with their love ones but rather sometimes the lack of it or simply the strenuous emotional and mental side of the relation they are having now.

“If you cant afford a girl, then dont think of bonking one mahz!”

So can we conclude from your point that your sex group is nothing but a commodity except with the choice to choose to go for the highest bidder? Affordability? I guess many of us here can more than “afford” but sometimes the “returns” are far from pleasing if you allow me to put it in your “terms” of “affording” a girl. All of us here are with someone who we are willing to care, commit and love but it is just that sometimes the emotional tantrums that comes along are overbearing and hence the much complaint we had. Views been posted here and seems that we are not solo singers in this case but so far I have not come across anyone who neither treat his complained target with grievances and hatred nor take them as some barter trade commodity where even casting her away is deem as waste of effort. :cool:

[suteerak1099]

U mean what, if your birthday your friends buy u a present means they want to "fuck" u?

Or if your birthday, your gf buy you a present means she wants you to service her? there you go again... incompetence in comprehension, by all means, please disclaim it. clearly, its not that you dont read, but simply cant read.

my sentiments on the gals mentality on the receiving end (these days): she expects gifts & all the attention, but when its her turn to reciprocate.. she's most likely to give flesh - assuming that its what the guy deserves.

hence, now the growing trend: i'd give you sex, only if you give me what i want.

not ruling out the fact that there are cheerful givers and goodwill presents too, except that the gals simply reciprocate inappropriately...

[asjer]

Frankly, when the guy have tons of "fertilisers" (money, not sperm), he won't have to worry about getting a good tree cos the trees will be flocking to him instead. That's the reality of living in a 1st world society where everything boils down to dollars and cents. Of course the other side of the arguement would be some trees can provide the adequate or expected shade but they are rare and far apart with most standing on other man's properties. Local or foreign soil, the trees are all the same, just up to us as men to decide what kind of trees we really wan to have for the rest of our life cos most trees are deciding already what kind of man they wan to shelter but bottomline is still the same, the one with the most fertilisers gets the most shelter from tree/trees. Hence, what we sow today is what we reap tomorrow, can't blame anyone else except ourselves.

My personal experience was, when i was down and out going after trees on a 2 wheeler, am classified as thick skinned, now when am on my BMW 5 series and ignoring trees cos i have my own tree, am classified as arrogant and proud.



meanwhile, there's plenty of trees out there.. and i dont see why we continue searching in local soil (for what we may never find - knowing very well that they topple during wet weather), when there's plenty of well rooted shady and/or fruit bearing trees out there in foreign soil... perhaps even virgin forests.

seek and you shall find. ;)

[asjer]

It's rare but it's not unheard of. For my wedding and most of my cousins, we made a profit through shared red packets. Furthermore, we chose not to make it glamorous or style even if it happens only once in a lifetime. If the woman married the man out of true love, then she would not compromise years of debts just to repay a day of celebration. If a man is silly enough to give in to his wife to be before marriage, then that man has no one else is blame but himself for his follies. We can pamper our other half but we should never spoil them.



p.s.: in wedding banquets, going dutch for the billing.. is unheard of.

[asjer]

In your own words, just because girls spread their legs, guys should pay for all? :confused: Then what's the difference if compared to prositutes?:confused:

Its not that nowadays girls always want their guys to buy this or buy that.... Just that you guys fuck us girls... Whats wrong if we ask you to pay for stuff when we are out? If you cant afford a girl, then dont think of bonking one mahz!

[OceanEleven]

In your own words, just because girls spread their legs, guys should pay for all? Then what's the difference if compared to prositutes?:confused:
I t may be blunt but her words seems to give others this impression. I hate to say it but could it be this kind of mentality that’s leads to all the contrast and conflicts among the sexes? :confused:

[Deep Blue]

If the woman married the man out of true love, then she would not compromise years of debts just to repay a day of celebration. If a man is silly enough to give in to his wife to be before marriage, then that man has no one else is blame but himself for his follies. We can pamper our other half but we should never spoil them.
Perhaps few can see beyond this point, the power of "Once in a lifetime" is enough to weaken a solid heart. ;)

[siamcutey]

I t may be blunt but her words seems to give others this impression. I hate to say it but could it be this kind of mentality that’s leads to all the contrast and conflicts among the sexes? :confused:

However twarted the mentality of our Local girls may be, it doesn't warrant a reason for SG men to go for Prostitutes instead to find their love.

But sadly this sad fact actually happened to some of our SG samsters who chose to find a WL as their love giving the reasons they cannot click with SG girls.

What a shit of crap reasons. Don't you agree? :rolleyes:

SC

[siamcutey]

there you go again... incompetence in comprehension, by all means, please disclaim it. clearly, its not that you dont read, but simply cant read.

my sentiments on the gals mentality on the receiving end (these days): she expects gifts & all the attention, but when its her turn to reciprocate.. she's most likely to give flesh - assuming that its what the guy deserves.

hence, now the growing trend: i'd give you sex, only if you give me what i want.

not ruling out the fact that there are cheerful givers and goodwill presents too, except that the gals simply reciprocate inappropriately...

Talk so much....
So how about your thai girlfriend who has multiple men sponsoring her monthly with money and she returning the favour with sex....

Like that your girlfriend also no different from the example you quoted above.

U got anything to say over here?

SC

[Deep Blue]

However twarted the mentality of our Local girls may be, it doesn't warrant a reason for SG men to go for Prostitutes instead to find their love.
But sadly this sad fact actually happened to some of our SG samsters who chose to find a WL as their love giving the reasons they cannot click with SG girls.

SC
Perhaps harboring the thoughts of a possible future continue to spurn them on chasing the WLs, given the superficial care and concern is more than often to melt an already broken heart.

[JWNY]

Guys who are going off topic, kindly continue your postings somewhere else and show some consideration towards thread starter. Thanks :)

No malice :D

JWNY

[OceanEleven]

However twarted the mentality of our Local girls may be, it doesn't warrant a reason for SG men to go for Prostitutes instead to find their love.
But sadly this sad fact actually happened to some of our SG samsters who chose to find a WL as their love giving the reasons they cannot click with SG girls.
SC
I believe they are fully aware of the situation they are in, afterall they are the one who are the leading cast in their own world. Be it dream, fantasy or simply a sad fxxk in the end, I guess they do have a choice for themselves. I had seen many couples work things out and being happily together till now but there are failures who lost money, time, emotions too. End of day, who is to judge them. I would rather leave it to them to enjoy what they deem best.:)

[siamcutey]

I believe they are fully aware of the situation they are in, afterall they are the one who are the leading cast in their own world. Be it dream, fantasy or simply a sad fxxk in the end, I guess they do have a choice for themselves. I had seen many couples work things out and being happily together till now but there are failures who lost money, time, emotions too. End of day, who is to judge them. I would rather leave it to them to enjoy what they deem best.:)

I don't think men in such situations are not fully aware of the pitfalls.

Not trying to scold you but if you know your friend is in trouble, will u leave him to enjoy what he deem is best or offer your advice time and time again even he does not like it to the extent that your relationship between you and him is strained?

I tell you, I will choose the latter reason.

If today your own son happens to live in his own world, will you leave it to them to enjoy what they deem best?

Why is it Gers are still Gers? Because it is their perogative and their rights.
Why is it females are the ones to carry the 10mth pregnancy? Because Gers are still Gers.

:D
SC

[suteerak1099]

Frankly, when the guy have tons of "fertilisers" (money, not sperm), he won't have to worry about getting a good tree cos the trees will be flocking to him instead. definately not wrong about that, and boundaries definately not limited to 1st world societies as well. sad to say, when all that attention (wanted/unwanted) comes flooding in... it'd be quite a pain in the neck to filter as well.

Local or foreign soil, the trees are all the same, just up to us as men to decide what kind of trees we really wan to have for the rest of our life cos most trees are deciding already what kind of man they wan to shelter but bottomline is still the same, the one with the most fertilisers gets the most shelter from tree/trees. agreed, and so the saying goes, we know how to choose, others also know how to choose. hence, when seeking, its also important not to be too superficial... dont deny that many local gals these days are self-sufficient. character and all, make compatible gf material... but in terms of prospects as spouse... i'd say there truly are few and far between.

My personal experience was, when i was down and out going after trees on a 2 wheeler, am classified as thick skinned, now when am on my BMW 5 series and ignoring trees cos i have my own tree, am classified as arrogant and proud. sigh, sad but true... and i suppose thats what brings about the term "double standards" as well.

[siamcutey]

dont deny that many local gals these days are self-sufficient. character and all, make compatible gf material... but in terms of prospects as spouse... i'd say there truly are few and far between.

sigh, sad but true... and i suppose thats what brings about the term "double standards" as well.

So in your Humble Opinion, since SG so many gers are buey kan in your eyes, you think which country has a lot of girls with good prospects as spouse???

Thailand is it?:rolleyes:

SC

[suteerak1099]

It's rare but it's not unheard of. For my wedding and most of my cousins, we made a profit through shared red packets. Furthermore, we chose not to make it glamorous or style even if it happens only once in a lifetime. If the woman married the man out of true love, then she would not compromise years of debts just to repay a day of celebration. If a man is silly enough to give in to his wife to be before marriage, then that man has no one else is blame but himself for his follies. We can pamper our other half but we should never spoil them. thanks for the highlight... however it may be, in asian context... many though 'modern', but very much still are influenced by the traditional values... and so customary practices still are prominent these days, let alone; marriage ceremonies, babies' full month observance, funeral rituals...etc.

and for the common issue of 'face', somehow or other.. there's tendency that the male side is obliged to host (foot all/majority of the bill) the function.... so as to be recognised as the good/promising son-in-law.(not forgetting the commonly abused terms: 娶老婆 vs 嫁女儿)

ironic as it gets, marriage is supposed to the be a joyous occassion for the couple, but when family/in-laws come into the equation... things at times get abit more complicated. i've witnessed brewing disputes over the banquet billing/angbao splitting by the parents/in-laws. which truly sets the wedded couple in quite a major fix.

IMO, as long as the wedding is planned & budgeted by the couple alone, frictions are less likely to surface. the key: wedding is just for a day, its the marriage (days that follow) that truly matters.

[suteerak1099]

Talk so much....
So how about your thai girlfriend who has multiple men sponsoring her monthly with money and she returning the favour with sex....

Like that your girlfriend also no different from the example you quoted above.

U got anything to say over here?

SC SC ah SC, you discredit yourself here, there and everywhere, and now you trying to start some flame war here?? in the 1st place, you dont even know my gf, let alone her itinerary... yet you exude much confidence that she's whoring herself to sponsors...

very typical of you to be stereotypical towards victims of circumstance, and you continue ceaseless over trivial issues of receiving goodwill benefits. your incompetence/incapcity to comprehend, does not set the benchmark/quotum that others must follow.

p.s.: would appreciate if you could be more mature - keep your begrudged comments towards me in my "woeful thread, and respect the threadstarter here, by not tarnishing his thread.

and once again proven that you can't read: what i state here doesnt enforce/advocate others to attempt tirakship, but to explore prospects in foreign soil, if its fruitless here. :cool:

[suteerak1099]

I don't think men in such situations are not fully aware of the pitfalls. you assume too much... players should know (or have researched about) the rules of the game before they even suit up to step into the arena. the handicap level high or low, is for them to achieve... and very much redundant for you to be telling them how they play the game.

likewise, in anything and almost everything we do in life has its highs and lows. none can foresee and foretell when will 1 hit the wall, but its the 1 involved who negotiates or engage the hurdles that come along.

if the movie you find yourself seated in, not suitable to your liking or too savage/gut-wrendhing and causing you pain... its not as if you cant walk out of it, and spare yourself the torment. rather than have yourself glued to the seat, eyes peeled... screaming and crying like a disturbed child. (and disrupting others around you)

[suteerak1099]

So in your Humble Opinion, since SG so many gers are buey kan in your eyes, you think which country has a lot of girls with good prospects as spouse???

Thailand is it?:rolleyes:

SC i havent the habit of jumping into conlusions, and i prefer leaving options open. Thailand- bigger in population, rich in resources and potential for economical growth, i wont deny that there's some good potential in settling there. not forgetting the other blooming prospects in the region and other continents.

there's plenty of good yrs ahead, and there's no telling where and when i'd choose to settle eventually... perhaps after all the hype & search, not migrating elsewhere but settle here and with a foreign bride? (not denoting settling here for good)

[siamcutey]

i havent the habit of jumping into conlusions, and i prefer leaving options open. Thailand- bigger in population, rich in resources and potential for economical growth, i wont deny that there's some good potential in settling there. not forgetting the other blooming prospects in the region and other continents.

there's plenty of good yrs ahead, and there's no telling where and when i'd choose to settle eventually... perhaps after all the hype & search, not migrating elsewhere but settle here and with a foreign bride? (not denoting settling here for good)

Yea yea, u always say SIngapore fucked up this and that. Yet you are still in SG

You also say SG girls damn jialat, but u also in SG. Since so jialat, why not migrating elsewhere? but said maybe eventually still settle down here. So many excuses siah. I think u never run out of them



SC

[siamcutey]

you assume too much... players should know (or have researched about) the rules of the game before they even suit up to step into the arena. the handicap level high or low, is for them to achieve... and very much redundant for you to be telling them how they play the game.

likewise, in anything and almost everything we do in life has its highs and lows. none can foresee and foretell when will 1 hit the wall, but its the 1 involved who negotiates or engage the hurdles that come along.

if the movie you find yourself seated in, not suitable to your liking or too savage/gut-wrendhing and causing you pain... its not as if you cant walk out of it, and spare yourself the torment. rather than have yourself glued to the seat, eyes peeled... screaming and crying like a disturbed child. (and disrupting others around you)

So what is the pitfalls when u found out your thai gf really sleeps with her sponsors and have sex with them? U still think Gers are still Gers???

If this is a movie I am sitting through, I can see both the actress and the actor's acting are like shit.
How can the plot of the movie tells us that the girl doesn't sleep with sponsors while the actor keep believing her lies?

hahaha
SC

[siamcutey]

SC ah SC, you discredit yourself here, there and everywhere, and now you trying to start some flame war here?? in the 1st place, you dont even know my gf, let alone her itinerary... yet you exude much confidence that she's whoring herself to sponsors...
very typical of you to be stereotypical towards victims of circumstance, and you continue ceaseless over trivial issues of receiving goodwill benefits. your incompetence/incapcity to comprehend, does not set the benchmark/quotum that others must follow.

p.s.: would appreciate if you could be more mature - keep your begrudged comments towards me in my "woeful thread, and respect the threadstarter here, by not tarnishing his thread.

and once again proven that you can't read: what i state here doesnt enforce/advocate others to attempt tirakship, but to explore prospects in foreign soil, if its fruitless here. :cool:

Mind telling everybody here what you said in your WOes of Tirak thread whereby u were thanking your gf's sponsors??? and believing when she said she no sex with them. So all so kum lan send free money ah. U think this is Wheel of Fortune?? Even WOF also need to answer questions and spin the wheel.

Chey, U were here slamming the SG girls and no one said a thing while I say you, u kaopehkaobu. U don't know what is freedom of speech?

Explore prospects in foreign soil is an alternative not fruitless. Just that one never look hard enough.

SC

[suteerak1099]

..........Chey, U were here slamming the SG girls and no one said a thing while I say you, u kaopehkaobu. U don't know what is freedom of speech?... freedom of speech no doubt.. but only if its in context of the subject matter. from the looks of it... its quite obvious that you're here to start a flame war. needless to say, not giving the thread-starter the due respect of his sentiments for starting this thread.

Explore prospects in foreign soil is an alternative not fruitless. Just that one never look hard enough. whichever it may be; not looking hard enough, good gals hibernating....etc. if it improves the chances by exploring in foreign soil, then so be it... nothing too wrong about it.

thanx

[OceanEleven]

Yea yea, u always say SIngapore fucked up this and that. Yet you are still in SG

You also say SG girls damn jialat, but u also in SG. Since so jialat, why not migrating elsewhere? but said maybe eventually still settle down here. So many excuses siah. I think u never run out of them
SC
Perhaps not a form of excuses but rather the fact of life. Many people bitch about their work, life, figures, wife, husband etc but end of day you dont see them changing all these. Sometimes we need an avenue for letting out. :)

[Deep Blue]

Chey, U were here slamming the SG girls and no one said a thing while I say you, u kaopehkaobu. U don't know what is freedom of speech?
Explore prospects in foreign soil is an alternative not fruitless. Just that one never look hard enough.

SC
To a certain extend, he is quite right about some of the SG gals. The principle of life in SG in about surviving and out live others. Then armed with the mentality of being the weaker sex, then will send us pondering the consequences. :o

[Deep Blue]

I wonder why do man have to put up with the nonsense woman can offer? They seem able to be so readily taking things for granted. Last evening, supposed to pick her up 630pm, reach there 625pm and before hand had called her to be there to wait for me. Due to traffic and location, cannot stop the car by the roadside let alone parking the car there. So upon reaching, did not see her so go for another round again. Came back at 640pm and saw her there waiting already. She hopped in the car and I greeted her with a warm smile and asked her how’s her day. What I got in return was a good lashing……..:cool:

[t123]

becos they are our wives or GFs thats why.

[zhivago]

I wonder why do man have to put up with the nonsense woman can offer? They seem able to be so readily taking things for granted. Last evening, supposed to pick her up 630pm, reach there 625pm and before hand had called her to be there to wait for me. Due to traffic and location, cannot stop the car by the roadside let alone parking the car there. So upon reaching, did not see her so go for another round again. Came back at 640pm and saw her there waiting already. She hopped in the car and I greeted her with a warm smile and asked her how’s her day. What I got in return was a good lashing……..:cool:
thank your lucky stars she's talking to u...

My experience is only a black face throughout the whole nite... But LL have to tolerate oso...

[Dspleof Dumbass]

Fellow Silent Suffer-ers,

Just to say my piece.

When you want to do something you feel like or have differing views, " Why you so selfish one! "

When she wants to do something she wants and you have something to say abt it

" Why cant you be more understanding! "

Exclaimation marks intended!

Sigh! Wat equality?

[jng1103]

... She hopped in the car and I greeted her with a warm smile and asked her how’s her day. What I got in return was a good lashing……..:cool:

I really dont understand. I assume you are the one who is paying for the car, and therefore the proud owner of your OWN car. Having to give your gf/wife a lift, that's a very nice gesture of you.

We are men with pride. Why on earth do we have to swallow our pride for the sake of the lady sitting next to us? If we are capable of owning a car with good income, for god sake, we got plenty of nice women out there to choose for. Just send your woman the strong signal, as I always do. If she keeps making nonsense demands, ask her to pay for the car loans and petrol. Otherwise, get her mouth zipped and sit tight in the car for a damn f**king FREE ride.

If a woman dont have good earning power, I dont see them have any rights to make nonsense noises. The door is always open, if you are up to the standard. Otherwise, bury your graveyard :mad:

[beck7777]

I really dont understand. I assume you are the one who is paying for the car, and therefore the proud owner of your OWN car. Having to give your gf/wife a lift, that's a very nice gesture of you.

We are men with pride. Why on earth do we have to swallow our pride for the sake of the lady sitting next to us? If we are capable of owning a car with good income, for god sake, we got plenty of nice women out there to choose for. Just send your woman the strong signal, as I always do. If she keeps making nonsense demands, ask her to pay for the car loans and petrol. Otherwise, get her mouth zipped and sit tight in the car for a damn f**king FREE ride.

If a woman dont have good earning power, I dont see them have any rights to make nonsense noises. The door is always open, if you are up to the standard. Otherwise, bury your graveyard :mad:

strong words bro! but u do have your point.. i rem when i got my car, my ex ask me why dun put solar film? the car so hot! then when i turn wrong lane (1st time having car so was quite unfamiliar with roads then), she say why u dunno how to drive?! due to traffic ask her wait by roadside so i can pick her up striaght but she never appear on time there.. haiz.. we just wanna be good to our girl and make her happy but it seems when u reach a level they ask for more.. but then when we ask for something they say they cant.. then say we dun understand them.. sometimes it just bullshit.. but then i'm glad i did managed to find a gf now who is so far so good! :D

[jng1103]

strong words bro! but u do have your point.. i rem when i got my car, my ex ask me why dun put solar film? the car so hot! then when i turn wrong lane (1st time having car so was quite unfamiliar with roads then), she say why u dunno how to drive?! due to traffic ask her wait by roadside so i can pick her up striaght but she never appear on time there.. haiz.. we just wanna be good to our girl and make her happy but it seems when u reach a level they ask for more.. but then when we ask for something they say they cant.. then say we dun understand them.. sometimes it just bullshit.. but then i'm glad i did managed to find a gf now who is so far so good!

Never was my intention to insult any bros here. I can only salute those guys who can afford a car with his own hard earned money. *hat off to them* Many times we heard women claimed that, "if our men dont treasure us, we should look for a greener pesture." I believe the same goes for us, MEN.

I am happy that you finally found your true princess who appreciates you. No worry, plenty of women out there who are hunting for good (characters + loaded) men and I think we are at the driver seat if we fulfill the basic requirement, that is to have a strong earning power. Nonetheless, the game is always against our butt.

Hey, Liverpool lost :mad: cheer up, certainly they will come back strong next season :D

[Deep Blue]

If a woman dont have good earning power, I dont see them have any rights to make nonsense noises. The door is always open, if you are up to the standard. Otherwise, bury your graveyard :mad:
Like a car, be it a Nissan, Ferrari, Honda, Benz etc......Will you change your car every now and then when it get a scratch or dent? :cool:

[Deep Blue]

Life still goes on, with or without them.......

[jng1103]

Like a car, be it a Nissan, Ferrari, Honda, Benz etc......Will you change your car every now and then when it get a scratch or dent?

Well, if you cant get rid of the car, you need to make a strong stand that who is the 'boss'. I hate ppl being late for appointment and there was once she was late for 45min without any sms to inform me. Guess what? I make sure she pay for the dinner or else I'd just walk off and go drinking with my kakis. I think we, as men, must always show our women who's having the upper card.

My buddy just bought a car few months ago and complained that his wife's parents always (almost every Sat early morning) asked him to drive them around for groceries, shopping, visiting extended family members, etc... It got too frequent that my buddy nicknamed himself as Ahmad aka driver. :D

[asjer]

Bro, you should had dropped her at the nearest MRT station and let her take the train home. I had the same experience before and the 1st time, i told her that am not obligated to pick her up from work and if she jolly well wanna give me an attitude, she can take other mode of transport. The 2nd time it happened, we were already married and she pregnant with our first kid and i still dump her at the MRT station. I believe that we as human are entitled to have bad days but to vent it on another person is just not logical. Relationship is about compromising and respect, not competing and trying to control one another.

She hopped in the car and I greeted her with a warm smile and asked her how’s her day. What I got in return was a good lashing……..:cool:

[asjer]

Errrr ...... bro, rather fierce rite? :p

Anyway, it's not about cars cos personally, my mrs can very well afford her own car anytime she wants. Think it's more that most men give in to women cos they have this mentality that men are the stronger while women are the weaker sex hence without knowing it, most men tend to give in to women when they start with their weaker sex routine. In the long run, it becomes a habit and an attitude is bred out of it.

My philosophy remains the same, can pamper our women but never ever spoil them.


We are men with pride. Why on earth do we have to swallow our pride for the sake of the lady sitting next to us? If we are capable of owning a car with good income, for god sake, we got plenty of nice women out there to choose for. Just send your woman the strong signal, as I always do. If she keeps making nonsense demands, ask her to pay for the car loans and petrol. Otherwise, get her mouth zipped and sit tight in the car for a damn f**king FREE ride.

[Deep Blue]

Bro, you should had dropped her at the nearest MRT station and let her take the train home. I had the same experience before and the 1st time, i told her that am not obligated to pick her up from work and if she jolly well wanna give me an attitude, she can take other mode of transport. The 2nd time it happened, we were already married and she pregnant with our first kid and i still dump her at the MRT station. I believe that we as human are entitled to have bad days but to vent it on another person is just not logical. Relationship is about compromising and respect, not competing and trying to control one another.
Perhaps I was easy going by nature, I did tell her about my concern and sort out our grievances, she did realise her mistake, anyway, she promised that she will be more understanding. :)

BTW, when can I add points for others?:confused:

[vesfreq]

Never was my intention to insult any bros here. I can only salute those guys who can afford a car with his own hard earned money. *hat off to them* Many times we heard women claimed that, "if our men dont treasure us, we should look for a greener pesture." I believe the same goes for us, MEN.

I am happy that you finally found your true princess who appreciates you. No worry, plenty of women out there who are hunting for good (characters + loaded) men and I think we are at the driver seat if we fulfill the basic requirement, that is to have a strong earning power. Nonetheless, the game is always against our butt.


I just booked my car, recently. I was contemplating between a getz and a lancer. Eventually, settled for a lancer to .... kao char bo. That was what I told a pal, if want to kao char bo, have to expand budget (but not go into deficit) for better options.

You are absolutely right about women. Its all about money. Once the girl gets impressed with guy's earning power, the girl is playing by the guy's rules.

Sad, but true. Even good girls go for guys with higher earning power and potential. These days there are so many younger girls going for guys much older than them, even up to 10 years difference or more. The whole point is, it doesn't matter whether guy young or old. But, simply whether got enough money and, at least, some character.

Girls themselves know that they want someone who is eligible and can spend on them. Its a silly equation and I used to believe that if guy honest (and imbued with all the nice-nice virtues), sure can find good girl to settle down. In Singapore, thats history, cos' without either money or car, guy is not eligible (in most instances) to be in the dating game.

Then again, if girls are that easily motivated by materialism, it is the guys' rights to treat them like call-girls (but don't go overboard too.)

[vesfreq]

My buddy just bought a car few months ago and complained that his wife's parents always (almost every Sat early morning) asked him to drive them around for groceries, shopping, visiting extended family members, etc... It got too frequent that my buddy nicknamed himself as Ahmad aka driver.

This is really unhealthy.

This happened to me recently when I went to showroom to book my car. My parents kept asking about whether car can go m'sia and got 3 brake light. I was like, "WTF!?"

I got this feeling that when guy has car, everyone takes him for a free taxi. And, car is a very personal thing. If his in-laws need to move around, they should take a cab, instead of inconveniencing the poor guy.

Ur friend very lucky to have this nick. lol. I agree with you, like ahmad the driver. :D

[Deep Blue]

Girls themselves know that they want someone who is eligible and can spend on them. Its a silly equation and I used to believe that if guy honest (and imbued with all the nice-nice virtues), sure can find good girl to settle down. In Singapore, thats history, cos' without either money or car, guy is not eligible (in most instances) to be in the dating game.

This is happening every where.....A recent survey in Shanghai, the Shanghai gals demands the guys to have house before they will consider marriage.....:cool:

[Deep Blue]

The 2nd time it happened, we were already married and she pregnant with our first kid and i still dump her at the MRT station.
This is a little too much in a way but I presume she is in the early stages of pregnancy so you bear to leave her at the MRT station. Sometimes when we guys do something bad, the matter will be blown out of proportion when they relate the matter to others. Then all arrows will start pointing at us, again the weaker sex issue come into play. :o

[vesfreq]

Like a car, be it a Nissan, Ferrari, Honda, Benz etc......Will you change your car every now and then when it get a scratch or dent? :cool:

Sigh...

Was just talking with a cousin. He was literally sobbing man and about to get married soon. But, getting married is not the reason why he sobbed.

It was because of his in-laws. They wanted dowry in the form of 20 tables. The in-laws will give him 10k to offset part of the cost of the tables (each table about 1k). But, the catch was that he has to give up all the ang pows (collected during the wedding dinner) to his in-laws.

He was caught by surprise, cos' the in-laws didn't mention about this, in the beginning when they were making preparations months back. Now that the in-laws mentioned, he is in a fix, cos' he has to fork out another 10k and will not have the ang pow money to offset the remaining 10 tables.

I was also puzzled, as dowry is usually just a +++en. It seems like this +++en is a bit too much. He was aware that giving dowry is a tradition, but the way the in-laws interpreted it is like asking for his blood.

My cousin thought of bailing out, yet hesitated cos of his wife to-be.

Guys, what do you think? Does this sound like ur regular dowry? Its a bit extreme, imo. In the first place, wedding preparations (eg, photos) already soaked up quite a lot of his savings. The in-laws aren't doing any to help and, instead, adding salt to the wound. :(

[vesfreq]

This is happening every where.....A recent survey in Shanghai, the Shanghai gals demands the guys to have house before they will consider marriage.....:cool:

Wah!

I think marriage is big biz in Singapore. Almost like incorporating a private ltd co. :D I was telling my cousin (the guy I mentioned in my earlier post) that no pt getting married, since the money save can use for retirement and buy fancier cars to kao char bo. lol

Kao char bo, but not to get so "involved" until obligated to get married.

[Deep Blue]

Sigh...
Guys, what do you think? Does this sound like ur regular dowry? Its a bit extreme, imo. In the first place, wedding preparations (eg, photos) already soaked up quite a lot of his savings. The in-laws aren't doing any to help and, instead, adding salt to the wound. :(
Does his wife to be knows about this? Did she say anything or talk to her parents? From your writing, seems that the parents are selling the daughter, more like making a fast buck from the dinner.

If I am in his shoes, I will postpone the wedding. Call me poor if you want, no money no wedding. Simple as that, I am not going to drain all my savings, max out my cards for a wedding. Wedding is a two-way issue, not all on the guy. Think about it, wedding photos in terms of $3K or more, plus her wedding gown, evening gown etc, ang bao to the “sisters” etc……For we guys, it is just a suit all the way.

I had known a mutual friend, he is doing fine with a decent income but married to a ITE girl. She is drawing a $1K plus salary. For the wedding, he drained all his resources, went for a honeymoon in Japan all because the wife wanted it and now he is paying off the never-ending debts from credit cards. He thought of selling his car but considering his job nature and the good lashing from the wife, he did not do it. Looking at all these, is this worth it? :cool:

[beck7777]

ya agree... no money no wedding... and if i'm the one coming out with all the cash, i rather not marry... y do guys have to pay for everything when marriage is about two person... duhz...and for those in-laws wanna 'sell' their daughters, i cant stand it! and its such a headache... i know of 1 case where the in-laws insist on wedding dinner and willing to fork out the money 1st to make sure there's a wedding dinner... think they scared nobody know their daughter is gatting married.. duhz.. :confused:

[t123]

Wah!

I think marriage is big biz in Singapore. Almost like incorporating a private ltd co. :D I was telling my cousin (the guy I mentioned in my earlier post) that no pt getting married, since the money save can use for retirement and buy fancier cars to kao char bo. lol

Kao char bo, but not to get so "involved" until obligated to get married.

I support what you said, my mum just nagged at me said that I am not having GF. I told her and my dad, that gals at GL are abundance, if KTV also can. I am having phobia to commit, recently, a gal from movie was lamenting why I neber go full throttle after her and I was thinking and worrying too much. My 2 biggest worries, not gotten over my phobia after severely hurt by BGRs before, and this gal is a the DHL jumbo.

[suteerak1099]

Mind telling everybody here what you said in your WOes of Tirak thread whereby u were thanking your gf's sponsors??? and believing when she said she no sex with them. So all so kum lan send free money ah. U think this is Wheel of Fortune?? Even WOF also need to answer questions and spin the wheel.

Chey, U were here slamming the SG girls and no one said a thing while I say you, u kaopehkaobu. U don't know what is freedom of speech?

Explore prospects in foreign soil is an alternative not fruitless. Just that one never look hard enough.

SC friend, i dont know how many times i have to repeat myself about the sleeping with sponsor bit. but i have to re-iterate that its via remittance. and as for sg gals... if you can find bliss, you have my heartiest well wishes. ;)

[iloveoversea]

It was because of his in-laws. They wanted dowry in the form of 20 tables. The in-laws will give him 10k to offset part of the cost of the tables (each table about 1k). But, the catch was that he has to give up all the ang pows (collected during the wedding dinner) to his in-laws.


Well i pity your cousin, as he's gonna have a bunch of blood-suckers for in-laws. Mind you this may only be the beginning.

Frankly speaking a lot of people hold lavishing wedding dinner because of so called "FACE" but it is exactly whats killing us. Wedding is the union of two person who love each other and willing to live together for life. who cares about what others think. i know of someone after deliberating how he should fix his guest list actually gaves up and opt for a buffet style dinner. his motto don't sit together if you don't like each other.

Speaking of "Face", i just attended a wedding dinner hold in a good hotel in China and got my ang bao returned to me a few days later. The guy tell me that he did not take ang bao from anybody as he did not offer gifts to the guest in return. Wonder if its possible for your cousin to cut back on some unnecessary cost and forgo the ang baos from guests. maybe he be better off this way.

[shengge]

This is happening every where.....A recent survey in Shanghai, the Shanghai gals demands the guys to have house before they will consider marriage.....:cool:

Bro,
The situation in China is very much differ from SGP.
The tradition and custom play some parts of it. The main problem living space. Two of my friends, they are living in 2 rooms local flat, ie one living room and one bed room. For Shanghaiese marriage, the in-laws will normally pay for the home appliances, ie. tv, air-con, fridge, rice-cooker, washing machine and etc.
After all, do what you can afford, marriage life is not just about the wedding dinner and house.
One thing cannot deny that, these days girls are looking more towards comfort when looking for their Mr Right.
Cheers!
SG

[benz]

Indeed money can be the root of all evil,
some guys desire the face of angel and bod of a devil,
some girls desire the money and jewellery,
so pick what you desire just remember nothing comes free.

[jng1103]

It was because of his in-laws. They wanted dowry in the form of 20 tables. The in-laws will give him 10k to offset part of the cost of the tables (each table about 1k). But, the catch was that he has to give up all the ang pows (collected during the wedding dinner) to his in-laws.

He was caught by surprise, cos' the in-laws didn't mention about this, in the beginning when they were making preparations months back. Now that the in-laws mentioned, he is in a fix, cos' he has to fork out another 10k and will not have the ang pow money to offset the remaining 10 tables...

Personally, I feel sorry for your cousin. Our lives (esp financially) have been rocky for the results of unstable economy yet his in-laws still poses new burden to him. sigh :(

I think it's OK to have grand wedding ceremony if you are financially prepared. However, if $10K is a big sum to your cousin, I think he does feel the pinch.

Sometimes, we have to ask ourselves what is more important: A grand wedding ceremony or financially secure for retirement? I heard of guys who went all the way to borrow money from credit card to pay for the ceremony and live in debt for the next few yrs. Ask yourself, is it worth? Having a grand ceremony does not equivalent your love for her. A marriage is between two small families, why must we must spend a bomb to invite relatives whom we hardly heard from them for ages?

Good luck to your cousin...

[jng1103]

I had known a mutual friend, he is doing fine with a decent income but married to a ITE girl. She is drawing a $1K plus salary. For the wedding, he drained all his resources, went for a honeymoon in Japan all because the wife wanted it and now he is paying off the never-ending debts from credit cards. He thought of selling his car but considering his job nature and the good lashing from the wife, he did not do it. Looking at all these, is this worth it?

Answer: NOT worth...!!! why?
1. He has drained his $$$ resources and it will take a very long time to payback his debts. During this period of time, he will suffer breakdowns and I forsee more arguments between them will follow suits.
2. I doubt his ITE wife is able to assist financially with her decent $1K++ salary.

What's next? A 4-5 rooms flat? Renovation? Furniture? 42" plasma? The list never ends... Dont worry, our govt will always assist us during the rainy days :D (Progress package is on the way... hehe)

[Deep Blue]

Well i pity your cousin, as he's gonna have a bunch of blood-suckers for in-laws. Mind you this may only be the beginning.

Frankly speaking a lot of people hold lavishing wedding dinner because of so called "FACE" but it is exactly whats killing us. Wedding is the union of two person who love each other and willing to live together for life. who cares about what others think. i know of someone after deliberating how he should fix his guest list actually gaves up and opt for a buffet style dinner. his motto don't sit together if you don't like each other.

"Face" is just superficial matter. Marriage is about being together, spending the rest of their lives caring and loving each other thru thick and thin. Spending excessively on wedding telling the whole world that you are getting married, what does it prove then? Look at the wedding photos, dumping in excess of $5K for an album where the most glamorous moments is on the wedding dinner night after that, it lies somewhere to collect dust. Yes, it is “once in a life time” so need to spend then and luckily for us, it is also “Once in a life time.” :D

[Deep Blue]

Answer: NOT worth...!!! why?

What's next? A 4-5 rooms flat? Renovation? Furniture? 42" plasma? The list never ends... Dont worry, our govt will always assist us during the rainy days :D (Progress package is on the way... hehe)
My sentiment exactly. There are many other finer details in life that w need to look after. Look at the roles and responsibilities, form a simple son of to be a husband, son in law and father maybe. All these needs efforts and most importantly money to finance. You can hate it and detest it but then many of arguments channels from financial matters.

[suteerak1099]

..... You can hate it and detest it but then many of arguments channels from financial matters. finance subconsciously forms the fuel, bread/butter to establishing a family & all. if the woman is the reason for the man to excel, there's bliss. but if the woman's the cause for the man to excel... then something's not quite right.

put it this way, if we know full well that the woman behind us is a good/supportive spouse... she's able to forego the material privileges that may fall short in the gruelling process of building a family.... hence, there's somehow still positive encouragement & reason for excel.

on the contrary, if the woman behind us is 1 who's self manifesting, hard to please, and "content" not in her dictionary... the man can slog his life away, but... enough will never be enough. would that not make a slave of him eventually?

if my obseravations serve to be correct, this is 1 of the few fatal frightening issue that deters alot of us from marriage in sg. and so propels the F&F mentality (where there's little or no emotional attachment).

[Deep Blue]

if my obseravations serve to be correct, this is 1 of the few fatal frightening issue that deters alot of us from marriage in sg. and so propels the F&F mentality (where there's little or no emotional attachment).
Indeed, this is one of the main detering factors in making one to commit. To commit one's love and attention is one thing but all the other financial factors that tied to it is the killer punch. :cool:

[OceanEleven]

Speaking of "Face", i just attended a wedding dinner hold in a good hotel in China and got my ang bao returned to me a few days later. The guy tell me that he did not take ang bao from anybody as he did not offer gifts to the guest in return. Wonder if its possible for your cousin to cut back on some unnecessary cost and forgo the ang baos from guests. maybe he be better off this way.
Cutting back? Seriously I doubt so, it would be a blessing if it does not increase further. Think about the 四点金， pray hard that it does not become 四点钻. When it comes to 接新娘, make sure the 姐妹 knows what to do. I knew once my friend got $999 and the haggling got on for an hour or so where all become tired and pissed off. He almost walks out if not for the intervention of fellow brothers. As for the banquet, request for free flow of beer and alcohol will seriously dent his pockets for I had seem people drink like a goldfish and the servers keep filling the glasses. ;)

[iloveoversea]

Look at the wedding photos, dumping in excess of $5K for an album where the most glamorous moments is on the wedding dinner night after that, it lies somewhere to collect dust. Yes, it is “once in a life time” so need to spend then and luckily for us, it is also “Once in a life time.” :D

Ya, we guys should be glad it a once in a lifetime thing.

But this "once" will often bring repercussion, i.e. debts that need long time to clear, comparison with other people wedding by wife and so on.

Its like marrying a woman, she got pregnant, then you got to pay for your kid and wife. Somehow i felt its more worthwhile if the money is spent on the kids rather on the wedding. Perhaps i'm not that well off thus i think this way:o

[iloveoversea]

When it comes to 接新娘, make sure the 姐妹 knows what to do. I knew once my friend got $999 and the haggling got on for an hour or so where all become tired and pissed off. He almost walks out if not for the intervention of fellow brothers. As for the banquet, request for free flow of beer and alcohol will seriously dent his pockets for I had seem people drink like a goldfish and the servers keep filling the glasses.

Hmmm, it kind of remind me of an incident where the groom brought his matchmaker to pick up the bride. The “sisters” are of course a hard nut to crack. Somehow after a long period of negotiation the matchmaker lady rush up and declare that the auspicious hour is almost over. Thus the groom pick up the bride and its anybody guess where the ang bao is :D

[vesfreq]

I support what you said, my mum just nagged at me said that I am not having GF. I told her and my dad, that gals at GL are abundance, if KTV also can. I am having phobia to commit, recently, a gal from movie was lamenting why I neber go full throttle after her and I was thinking and worrying too much. My 2 biggest worries, not gotten over my phobia after severely hurt by BGRs before, and this gal is a the DHL jumbo.

lol. Bro, my mum never did nag at me about me not having a gf. :D

My colleagues asked whether I got gf. I show them picture of a modified mazda 3 and said, "this is my gf." hehehehe.

I used to have a gf years back. She was sweet, caring and lovely. But, whenever throw tantrums, it was like hell for me. For that 3mth plus of relationship, I was always throwing money at her.

Thk goodness, I ditched her. Today, I don't have any financial commitment and have a car (not a budget car, somemore). I can date anyone and not having to worry about being hammered with many many .... many audit queries.

I thought of buying mazda 3 and then my char bo cousin (abt 30+) made a heck lot of noise. But, after I slammed her that I was paying, she kept quiet. If gf, want to buy anything also must get PR signed approved. Somemore, raised PO, later she can revoke the PO. "tian li he zhai".

Char bo anytime can get. Just make sure can enjoy that new SLK by urself first, b4 being forced to buy a family car. -_-

[vesfreq]

Indeed, this is one of the main detering factors in making one to commit. To commit one's love and attention is one thing but all the other financial factors that tied to it is the killer punch. :cool:

There is just no more incentive to commit to a marriage. Gone are the days when decent guy can hope to marry simple girl and live happily ever after.

Its pretty gross to see in-laws demanding financial "compensation" out of a simple wedding affair.

Yet, the matter is not really about the money, but the integrity of the in-laws and the fact that they were not forthcoming in releasing relevant information to the propecting son-in-law.

Better keep money in FD, where u still can earn some interest, risk free. lol. No need to worry about legal obligations and being hit by some archaic act, which has no bearing with modern society.

[OceanEleven]

Hmmm, it kind of remind me of an incident where the groom brought his matchmaker to pick up the bride. The “sisters” are of course a hard nut to crack. Somehow after a long period of negotiation the matchmaker lady rush up and declare that the auspicious hour is almost over. Thus the groom pick up the bride and its anybody guess where the ang bao is :D
Sometimes I wonder what is so fun in asking for Ang Bao, continue to drag and waste time as well. If the couple can afford then perhaps it's fine but if they already walking on thin line, then I dont see the happiness behind it. :rolleyes:

[OceanEleven]

Bro,
One thing cannot deny that, these days girls are looking more towards comfort when looking for their Mr Right.
Cheers!
SG
Looking for more comfort is acceptable but then if all responsibilities to solely fall on the guys’ shoulders, I think it is pretty unfair then. One has to understand, a sound family does not only lies upon one man and there are many other minor details that require the participation of others as well. If all rest on one’s shoulder, problems bound to appear sooner or later and he will be likely to be burn out faster as well.

[iloveoversea]

Sometimes I wonder what is so fun in asking for Ang Bao, continue to drag and waste time as well. If the couple can afford then perhaps it's fine but if they already walking on thin line, then I dont see the happiness behind it. :rolleyes:

Well maybe its treated as an compensation for the time they spent.

So how we know guys are always on the losing end?

Women's time = money = gifts or dinner

Men's time = brotherhood = beer

So drink up, Cheers:D

[jng1103]

Looking for more comfort is acceptable but then if all responsibilities to solely fall on the guys’ shoulders, I think it is pretty unfair then. One has to understand, a sound family does not only lies upon one man and there are many other minor details that require the participation of others as well. If all rest on one’s shoulder, problems bound to appear sooner or later and he will be likely to be burn out faster as well.

well said bro. The only problem is that our kiasu society has shaped men to over pampered their women with gifts, suprises, etc... for the sake of their women. Some guys even drained their credit card for expensive gifts and overseas vacations. That's silly. This kinda investment is definitely NOT worth it. Many times we heard guys bursted their credit cards for expensive dinners with their 'potential' women and got dumped once they could no longer afford. Sigh...

I got few ladies who seek for comfort lives without a sweat. They wont upgrade themselves with higher education, neither do they save to invest for retirement. Frugal is the last thing comes to their mind. Forget about living below their means, dats impossible. Plain lazy bummers, I would say.

[Reaper]

From my personal point of view...marriage is only about 1 thing.....COMPROMISE:cool:

CHEERS

[Rof|maoxz]

Well maybe its treated as an compensation for the time they spent.

So how we know guys are always on the losing end?

Women's time = $$ = Gifts or dinner = Shopping = Holiday's = tight controlling of hubby's life

Men's time = Dictated by Women

So drink up, Cheers :D

Where's the beer man? :o

[Deep Blue]

From my personal point of view...marriage is only about 1 thing.....COMPROMISE:cool:

CHEERS
If we need to compromise to be together, then why be together in the first place? I would rather think it is more of a sacrifice. Compromise needs to draw lines, set rules, lay grounds, end of day, just another sad relationship to go back to.;)

[Reaper]

bro....to me ...having to compromise is just a nicer way of saying sacrifice.....it all depends on how u define sacrifice..tats all....

isnt being together already a form of compromise on your / her part??? u are giving something up to be together right??

CHEERS

[beck7777]

bro....to me ...having to compromise is just a nicer way of saying sacrifice.....it all depends on how u define sacrifice..tats all....

isnt being together already a form of compromise on your / her part??? u are giving something up to be together right??
CHEERS


i agree.. its a give and take situation.. but of cos cannot 1 side give all while the other party just sit and take... actually there are pros n cons of being attached.. its all personal view.. how many bros here dare say they never complain when they cant find gf but oso complain when attached... its just that which type of girl we end up with... there are some lucky bros here managed to find really sweet and understanding gf while some others are not that lucky.. but for me, marriage is a totally different stories... it seems to me most married bros here have more complains... scary sia... dunno what will happen to me next time when its my turn to get married... :confused:

[OceanEleven]

well said bro. The only problem is that our kiasu society has shaped men to over pampered their women with gifts, suprises, etc... for the sake of their women. Some guys even drained their credit card for expensive gifts and overseas vacations. That's silly. This kinda investment is definitely NOT worth it. Many times we heard guys bursted their credit cards for expensive dinners with their 'potential' women and got dumped once they could no longer afford. Sigh...

Who wants to be constantly giving and giving? Even if one can supply can support, he will have second thoughts, let alone when trying to make ends meet?:cool:

[Toyota Honda]

well said bro. The only problem is that our kiasu society has shaped men to over pampered their women with gifts, suprises, etc... for the sake of their women. Some guys even drained their credit card for expensive gifts and overseas vacations. That's silly. This kinda investment is definitely NOT worth it. Many times we heard guys bursted their credit cards for expensive dinners with their 'potential' women and got dumped once they could no longer afford. Sigh... .

I used to pamper on my last gf so much... I remembered theres this particular prawn noodle stall thats very popular and it comes in $3(small prawns), $5(Big prawns) or $8(King sized prawns). And everytime I go and eat with her, We will spend in total $8. Cos I ordered $5 one for her and I myself eat the $3 as she is one who enjoys good food, especially prawns. At times, I would even give up my prawns for her and eat just the noodles.. Now leh, happy happy just dump me...


Frugal is the last thing comes to their mind. Forget about living below their means, dats impossible. Plain lazy bummers, I would say.
Now I am smart with my current one. Went to Jalan Kayu one late afternoon see her eat one egg prata and another special flavour one for tea time costing $5 while I just down 2 teh tarik in order not to overspend. When she ask if I took heavy lunch, I said I took brunch which costs only $0.70. Say I ate the banana leaf wrapped nasi lemak with cucumber and egg, adding that I told the uncle to take away the fish to deduct $0.50 from the original $1.20pricing in order to save money.. She started weeping right there saying that I sayang her so much, save $0.50 on myself but splurge $5.00 on the special flavoured prata to satisfy her curious appetite. Ended up gave me a sextifying time when we went home.. ;)

[iloveoversea]

Where's the beer man? :o

This remind me of something i just heard

in a pub
Single guy 1: give me a tiger

Single guy 1: give me a baron

Single guy 1: give me a stout

Attached guy 1: can you give me a coke please:eek:

[FDSeah]

Gals is will ask for more...if u give her $10 she will ask for $100 next time..

My gf and i are getting marry soon..and she want to buy acar soon after we marry...i told her that it is abit tight for me if we buy acar after we marry cuse i have spent most of my money at the wedding..Then she say:"then how i go around if i got ababy??" Wait till u buy acar then we have baby!!

Fuck man...must buy car then have baby???what the hell!!!

[OceanEleven]

My gf and i are getting marry soon..and she want to buy acar soon after we marry...i told her that it is abit tight for me if we buy acar after we marry cuse i have spent most of my money at the wedding..Then she say:"then how i go around if i got ababy??" Wait till u buy acar then we have baby!!
Fuck man...must buy car then have baby???what the hell!!!

They never seem to be never short of absurd logic. Need a car to ferry the baby? So what’s next? Buy a house because the dustbin that comes with it is nice? Makes one ponder hard what had all those years of education gone to. :cool:

[Rof|maoxz]

This remind me of something i just heard

in a pub
Single guy 1: give me a tiger

Single guy 1: give me a baron

Single guy 1: give me a stout

Attached guy 1: can you give me a coke please :eek:

I tot coke cost no less den beer?

[Rof|maoxz]

Gals is will ask for more...if u give her $10 she will ask for $100 next time..

My gf and i are getting marry soon..and she want to buy acar soon after we marry...i told her that it is abit tight for me if we buy acar after we marry cuse i have spent most of my money at the wedding..Then she say:"then how i go around if i got ababy??" Wait till u buy acar then we have baby!!

Fuck man...must buy car then have baby???what the hell!!!

At first I tought is ahchar! :eek:

FD, I do not know yours is a local woman. But it seems that if you married a local girl with a traditional and conservative mindset. You can never escape paying for high customary dinner, bridal services, hefty angbaos to the MIL/FIL. At the very least for the malaysian brides, our damage are halved for the currency exchange. As for car, it's monkey see monkey do lah. What justifiable reasons to have a car in order to have a baby? Women do have comical yet dim-witted excuse to yearn for something. It's a "everybody have... So I must also have or excel better" sinkology.

Of course there are good MILs/FILs around.

[suteerak1099]

They never seem to be never short of absurd logic. Need a car to ferry the baby? So what’s next? Buy a house because the dustbin that comes with it is nice? Makes one ponder hard what had all those years of education gone to. :cool: maybe its the education that truly confuses things. those who havent undergone that much education seem to have better sense in balancing preferences for needs vs wants, and tend to make more rational decisions than some with higher education.

[vesfreq]

Gals is will ask for more...if u give her $10 she will ask for $100 next time..

My gf and i are getting marry soon..and she want to buy acar soon after we marry...i told her that it is abit tight for me if we buy acar after we marry cuse i have spent most of my money at the wedding..Then she say:"then how i go around if i got ababy??" Wait till u buy acar then we have baby!!

Fuck man...must buy car then have baby???what the hell!!!

She never talk MRT before? There are scores of couples who lug their babies around in the train. Its just a qn of whether ur gf wants to lug baby around.

If in a hurry, can take cab too. lol :D

[FDSeah]

I am not sure about u guys but for me: I am the one who pay for evrythings wedding,photo shoot,HDB,everything lor...and hae to gave her mom 10table some more wow liao....
Shit man...how about u guys?

[jng1103]

Gals is will ask for more...if u give her $10 she will ask for $100 next time..

My gf and i are getting marry soon..and she want to buy acar soon after we marry...i told her that it is abit tight for me if we buy acar after we marry cuse i have spent most of my money at the wedding..Then she say:"then how i go around if i got ababy??" Wait till u buy acar then we have baby!!

Fuck man...must buy car then have baby???what the hell!!!

I had a similiar encounter with my future mother-in-law. She kept pestering my CO to buy a car coz it's cheap now. I almost smacked her face and asked her to pay for the monthly loans and petrol if she ever asks us to drive her for groceries. Till then, she kept quiet whenever she sees me. I dun give a f*ck care who she is, coz there's no free lunch in this world.

No need to give face. Nowadays, sillypore women are very commanding and crossing the lines. If you dont stop them, they will shit on your head. Period.

[jng1103]

I am not sure about u guys but for me: I am the one who pay for evrythings wedding,photo shoot,HDB,everything lor...and hae to gave her mom 10table some more wow liao....
Shit man...how about u guys?

My ROM should be in the near future. I'd already warned my CO that we will spilt all the bills in 50-50. Well, the only item that I'll pay in full is the wedding ring which costs S$1k++. That's affordable and justifable. If her parents making hoo-hah for ang pao money, I'll just walk away and let her face the consequences.

Guys, our hard earned money shouldnt spend lavishly on the wedding, honeymoon, etc... Otherwise, we may end up like those ah peks at Chinatown, poor and old and waiting for their time to 'go'. Invest wisely... :)

[OceanEleven]

I am not sure about u guys but for me: I am the one who pay for evrythings wedding,photo shoot,HDB,everything lor...and hae to gave her mom 10table some more wow liao....
Shit man...how about u guys?
I don’t understand why pay for everything? It is about two people being together, not one supporting the other. Loving her is one thing, spoiling her is another. Remember the famous quote “What is mine is mine, what is yours also mine.” By providing for all is not showing that you love her but rather digging your own grave and allowing her to be more dependent on you.:cool:

[Five Stone]

I am not sure about u guys but for me: I am the one who pay for evrythings wedding,photo shoot,HDB,everything lor...and hae to gave her mom 10table some more wow liao....
Shit man...how about u guys?
Don’t know about your abilities but I can see this is pretty draining in terms of financial. Look at the sums? HDB down payment, renovations, to furnish it, wedding photos, ang baos, wedding dinner and I bet they will keep the 10 tables ang bao money as well. Well, you better start drawing lines, else end of day you might suffer more than you imagine.

[Five Stone]

She never talk MRT before? There are scores of couples who lug their babies around in the train. Its just a qn of whether ur gf wants to lug baby around.
If in a hurry, can take cab too. lol :D
Done, that's it. They never seems to consider the fact that there are more people out there who are leading a more simpler life. A mother with one kid in hand and pushing another in trolley and catching a bus or taking the MRT. Then think when we can afford to drive them, they will start complaining we are late, or unable to fetch them around etc. So when they can start to be more appreciative towards what we had done?? :mad:

[FDSeah]

As normal gave my gal acall when reach home from work"hello, i am home liao..." gal:"just now mom say u sometime look very gong and ur dressing look so old fashion" me:"what lah at home dress so nice for who to see..."gal:"yah but at least must be look good mah"me:"what ever lah"abit fair up liao...shit..

now i am thinking should i marry this gal??asking for so much still want to complain this complain that...
Feel like telling her we should delay the wedding to next year since they have so much complain about me...so she have some more time to think over.

[jng1103]

-- Masterpiece --

I don’t understand why pay for everything? It is about two people being together, not one supporting the other. Loving her is one thing, spoiling her is another. Remember the famous quote “What is mine is mine, what is yours also mine.” By providing for all is not showing that you love her but rather digging your own grave and allowing her to be more dependent on you.

[jng1103]

-- I cant agree more. Well said --

Done, that's it. They never seems to consider the fact that there are more people out there who are leading a more simpler life. A mother with one kid in hand and pushing another in trolley and catching a bus or taking the MRT. Then think when we can afford to drive them, they will start complaining we are late, or unable to fetch them around etc. So when they can start to be more appreciative towards what we had done??

[jng1103]

Sometimes I really dont understand. sillypore women hate it when we labelled them as 'materialistic'. They arguments are "we do work hard and earn a living (well, how much is left???)", "we can live in a decent HDB", "we can take MRT/Bus", etc...

However, when it comes to dating, they "seldom" offer to pay, they got "jealous" coz their gal frens' hubby driving them around, they "dream" of overseas vacations and hoping their men will pay ALL, etc...

Why is that so? well, they claimed that their income is 'lower' than us. If you notice, they do spend lavishly during their ladies nite out. What does it tell us? :mad:

[suteerak1099]

She never talk MRT before? There are scores of couples who lug their babies around in the train. Its just a qn of whether ur gf wants to lug baby around.

If in a hurry, can take cab too. lol :D others in underdeveloped countries can even go on foot while running errands, administer arduous chores (that might even put us men to shame)... and not as if mishap/ miscarriage is something they disregard.

even in our parents/grand parents days, there werent efficient commuting services available. despite the inconveniences.. livelihood proceeds in good order.

where there's a will, there's a way. inconvenience is just an excuse.

[suteerak1099]

As normal gave my gal acall when reach home from work"hello, i am home liao..." gal:"just now mom say u sometime look very gong and ur dressing look so old fashion" me:"what lah at home dress so nice for who to see..."gal:"yah but at least must be look good mah"me:"what ever lah"abit fair up liao...shit..

now i am thinking should i marry this gal??asking for so much still want to complain this complain that...
Feel like telling her we should delay the wedding to next year since they have so much complain about me...so she have some more time to think over. i think you should clarify to her, that your surname is not "beckham"". you dont have a wardrobe dedicated for undies, home attire, sleep...etc (respectively).

what's the point of look good on the outside, but empty on the inside? 面包能填饱肚子，面子只能乃一下子。

[Rof|maoxz]

My ROM should be in the near future. I'd already warned my CO that we will spilt all the bills in 50-50. Well, the only item that I'll pay in full is the wedding ring which costs S$1k++. That's affordable and justifable. If her parents making hoo-hah for ang pao money, I'll just walk away and let her face the consequences.

It's good to voice out your position at the very beginning. Dun start to keep mum and whimp when you can't handle the situation. :cool:

[suteerak1099]

Sometimes I really dont understand. sillypore women hate it when we labelled them as 'materialistic'. They arguments are "we do work hard and earn a living (well, how much is left???)", "we can live in a decent HDB", "we can take MRT/Bus", etc...

However, when it comes to dating, they "seldom" offer to pay, they got "jealous" coz their gal frens' hubby driving them around, they "dream" of overseas vacations and hoping their men will pay ALL, etc...

Why is that so? well, they claimed that their income is 'lower' than us. If you notice, they do spend lavishly during their ladies nite out. What does it tell us? :mad: well, i guess the better word to use is "too idealistic" or "not realistic". the double standard & coveting of other's achievements/possessions is often in the agenda of squabbles. they forget the possibilities that other couples could probably afford the things, only because they share/combine income for combined expenditures.

which average sillypore man can afford to provide her shelter, ride, flights, shopping...etc (all paid for based on his own pocket limits)??? inspite of the practical providence, they ever so often crave for some sweet pampering of surprise gifts etc. sad to sum things up this way, but most sillypore woman = 末断够

[OceanEleven]

Sometimes I really dont understand. sillypore women hate it when we labelled them as 'materialistic'. They arguments are "we do work hard and earn a living (well, how much is left???)", "we can live in a decent HDB", "we can take MRT/Bus", etc...

However, when it comes to dating, they "seldom" offer to pay, they got "jealous" coz their gal frens' hubby driving them around, they "dream" of overseas vacations and hoping their men will pay ALL, etc...

History told me never be the last to marry among her peers because the marriage can only gets more expensive. First to married, spend $4K on photo. Second to marry, decided to go M’sia for cheap price and different scenery, ended up spending SGD $6K because all photos are nice so don’t know what to choose so in the end took almost all. Third to married, decided to holiday in somewhere else and had the photos taken, final bill, in excess of SGD$10K.

So when your turn comes? God bless you. :cool:

[Reaper]

learnt my lesson the hard way......wont go into details here...tat is why I am still single.......guys will always cry father cry mother wan...dont forget...gers compare......guys also do it....i am not taking sides here....just trying to put thins into perspective......gers will compare u with their frends bf.....we guys will compare her with our frends gf...its just a vicious cycle......it will go round & round.....the one and only reason we are here on earth isto to ensure the continued existence of the human race........it is just that we have elolved along the way into more complicated, not necesarily mire sophisticated beings.......marriage is not a business transaction...its about compromising/sacrificing (watever it is u want to call it) :cool:
some will say why are there double standards wen it comes to gender but hey....tough luck......tats just the way the ball rolls in any "modern" society

CHEERS

[Decold]

my wife lagi worst!!..Had a agrument with her recently. pay for house, household, etc...save like shit for the wedding dinner and her dream honeymoon (SOUTH KOREA!!!), every month only left a pathetic 100-200 plus myself. Still gota help do housework (which i dun mind actually cuz i felt it muz b shared) Yet, she go complain her mom that i sibei nuan and always face the computer instead of her. FUCKK!!!..what the hell?! i weekdays work so sianz come back juz wana have some relaxation. Yet she still need me to entertain her. I every sat make an attempt to go out with her, she still not satisfied. Complained that i luv the computer than luv her. CB, i go out also cow bei said always go out with friends. I stay at home play games also cow bei said i prefer to face computer than her. Lagi tulan, sometimes realli felt does she ever appreciate what i have done for her..:(

[Decold]

my wife lagi worst!!..Had a agrument with her recently. pay for house, household, etc...save like shit for the wedding dinner and her dream honeymoon (SOUTH KOREA!!!), every month only left a pathetic 100-200 plus myself. Still gota help do housework (which i dun mind actually cuz i felt it muz b shared) Yet, she go complain her mom that i sibei nuan and always face the computer instead of her. FUCKK!.what the hell?! i weekdays work so sianz come back juz wana have some relaxation. Yet she still need me to entertain her. I every sat make an attempt to go out with her, she still not satisfied. Complained that i luv the computer than luv her. CB, i go out also cow bei said always go out with friends. I stay at home play games also cow bei said i prefer to face computer than her. Lagi tulan, sometimes realli felt does she ever appreciate what i have done for her..:(

[Deep Blue]

learnt my lesson the hard way......wont go into details here...tat is why I am still single.......guys will always cry father cry mother wan...dont forget...gers compare......guys also do it....i am not taking sides here....just trying to put thins into perspective......gers will compare u with their frends bf.....we guys will compare her with our frends gf...its just a vicious cycle......it will go round & round.....
CHEERS

I have no qualms about the comparing issue but then the path chose and consequences faced are sometimes much more undesirable than one can imagine. We give in just to keep the lips sealed at times but then that in no ground justified when they tried pushing their luck. Guys compare, yes we do. We chose to do it within our own discreet and while drawing conclusions which we seldom enacted on them to change for our likings. Things are different for them. When conclusions are drawn, there must a remedy for it in her way, it is base on her decision to solved the matter. Most of the time, they are kind enough to give us at least two choices – “YES” or “OK”.

It would be nice if they do really understand what is meant by compromising and sacrificing. To her, compromising is when you pick her up after work in Shenton Way while you work in Tuas and the home is in Boon Lay, not forgetting you knock off at 5pm and her at 7pm. To her, sacrificing is when she gave up holidaying in Paris but chose Milan instead at your expense. And the change in destination is unlikely due to financial because you do carry a few credit cards but more because her company refuses her a long leave. :cool:

[Deep Blue]

Many been said and done, time and efforts spend in explaining but end of the day what meant most to them is what they want to hear, not what we had said.

[suteerak1099]

learnt my lesson the hard way......wont go into details here...tat is why I am still single.......guys will always cry father cry mother wan...dont forget...gers compare......guys also do it....i am not taking sides here....just trying to put thins into perspective......gers will compare u with their frends bf.....we guys will compare her with our frends gf...its just a vicious cycle......it will go round & round.....the one and only reason we are here on earth isto to ensure the continued existence of the human race........it is just that we have elolved along the way into more complicated, not necesarily mire sophisticated beings.......marriage is not a business transaction...its about compromising/sacrificing (watever it is u want to call it) :cool:
some will say why are there double standards wen it comes to gender but hey....tough luck......tats just the way the ball rolls in any "modern" society

CHEERS nice analysis of things. well, generally speaking guys have tendency to compare less, at least in terms of standards where spouse is concern. there's also a growing trend in men being disillusioned by the gal he dates for years.

men are likely to be comparing more pratical issues, such that it helps spur themselves and/or the spouse to be for improvements in the relationship. however, when the gals start making comparisons... often for the wrong reasons, namely; to her own benefit/advantage.

bliss is to be attained/achieved only when both parties have mutual understanding, respect, concensus...etc. when 1 party breech this invisible contract, things naturally go adversely wrong...

[suteerak1099]

...sometimes realli felt does she ever appreciate what i have done for her..:( can understand your plight. well, this is a case that happens everywhere (regardless of nationality), but, highly applicable in most sillyporean marriages. some say its the metropolitan/cosmopolitan mentality that woman tend to have such insecurities, but ironically less prominent in cities elsewhere... and its a myth that career orientated woman these days demand such attention.

ultimately the problem lies within the woman herself, for its evident that many a times.. they're confused & dis-orientated in objectives, which leads to irrational thinking, if unchecked grows into non-realistic mentality.. and eventually become overbearing.

how & why we tend to get confused in our congested/overpopullated island city? perhaps its the constant struggle to balance western thoughts & asian values. constant deliberation between mordernizm integrating asian discipline (or vice versa).

[Reaper]

ultimately the problem lies within the woman herself, for its evident that many a times.. they're confused & dis-orientated in objectives, which leads to irrational thinking, if unchecked grows into non-realistic mentality.. and eventually become overbearing.

Dont mens to bang heads here but the the thread reads as "gers are still gers" but has anyone ever thought that "boys will always be boys" and wat seperates the men from the boys is how expensive their toys are.:cool: this is one statement that holds true no matter which society we are in. western or asian.....I have good frends from both and I have seen marriages that work and thoses that dont....most of the time wen push comes to shove, the women get the shorter end of the stick. they get stuck with the kids, blah blah blah.....but marriage is about 2 PERSONS COMING TOGETHER.....if u know at the begining that things will never work out...Y get married?? peer pressure? family pressure? I have learnt it the hard way and been burnt badly....I not an pessemist but just cautious thats all.......or is it as men we feel that we should get something out of all the "investment" we have put in to the realtionship?

I personally feel that the problem is this...women want equal rights...but society till wants to protect them becasue the are the "weaker" gender...go figure...this is one belief that I have had numerous arguments about with "feminist"....Some complain that we men dont treat them in a gentlemanly manner and yet wen we do....they say that we can be overbearing or overly concerned.....I say this...I am wat i am.....you fell in love with me becasue of who I am...not wat u can change me into........

CHEERS

[vesfreq]

learnt my lesson the hard way......wont go into details here...tat is why I am still single.......guys will always cry father cry mother wan
ur statement about "guys will always cry father cry mother". Note in particular, the use of the words "will always". What is ur basis for using these two words? Is it a statistically proven trend? Or just something u seen happening to urself and urself only?

Or is it just something that happened to people around you?

IMO, many a time, people like urself fail to realise that things that happen around you need not be representative of what is really happening to the rest of the male population? Before you can convince anyone of us about ur point (or rather, ur blunt and crude statement about men "cry father cry mother"), it will help if you do not turn to mere mindless unconvincing sweeping statements.

I mean no offense, but ur line is so blunt and reckless that I have to say something.


...dont forget...gers compare......guys also do it....i am not taking sides here....just trying to put thins into perspective......gers will compare u with their frends bf.....

Yea, girls compare their bfs. But, have you thought of their basis for their comparison? Girls' bases for comparison aren't exactly the same as guys'.

Figure this. Why would a girl buy a new pair of heels, although she already has ten other pairs? Ask her and she will say that the rest of the ten pairs (although all black) are of different shades and textures (which are essentially the same in shape and size).

In terms of the way a girl thinks and behaves, she is diametrically different from a guy. Yes, they will compare their bfs. But, what is ur point? Their basis for comparison isn't the same as guys.

Notice what the other thread writers have been saying. The main point is about materialistic and emotionally myopic females. But, how do the girls compare their bfs? Are you aware?

I'm not saying all females, but the typical office working girl would shoot out, "what car is ur bf driving?", "wah! ur bf buy u a diamond ring?", "my date brought me to Chjimes for a romantic dinner" and etc. Imagine now, you are the guy dating this girl and she just compared you with her other suitors, using one basis. ie, what you have in terms of career, money and what have you done to impress her?

If you claim that the guys here compare their gfs in terms of sexual appeal and boobs and only compare these, then of course the guys here are no better. But, have a look at the contents of the posts clearly. The guys here are mostly displeased with what some of these girls are doing, especially in the way they (the girls) define convenience and compromise.


we guys will compare her with our frends gf...its just a vicious cycle......it will go round & round.....the one and only reason we are here on earth isto to ensure the continued existence of the human race........it is just that we have elolved along the way into more complicated, not necesarily mire sophisticated beings.......marriage is not a business transaction...its about compromising/sacrificing (watever it is u want to call it) :cool:
some will say why are there double standards wen it comes to gender but hey....tough luck......tats just the way the ball rolls in any "modern" society

CHEERS
Comparing and redressing grievances are two separate issues. Voicing out concerns is also different from comparing. You really ought to stop ur sweeping statements.

Yes, it is (from ur perspective) a vicious cycle. The Chinese saying goes, "yi zhong mi yang bai zhong ren". While the people you have met may have led you to develop certain beliefs and attitudes towards people (and including life), it need not necessarily mean that all of us (in ur word "we") have evolved into more complicated "beings".

The part about what you want to be and what you choose to ... "evolve" to become is a matter of personal choice. The term here is "self-determination". What you are and you have become is part of what you thought is and, indeed, shapes you into what you are.

You are right, double standards will always persist. Not because we have become more "complicated", but because people have ceased to try to understand and trust each other. Between two married persons, what divides them is not "complicated", but a mere lack of trust, confidence and, to a larger extent, immaturity.

Asking for bigger cars, houses and plastic cards are not considered as signs of maturity.

PS: ur point form is truly "point form" like reading school notes. :p

[Toyota Honda]

bros, just my two cents worth.. So what I said may bnot concur with your opinions..
After my last gf left me, I felt like shit and to think I had always placed her priority in terms of food, money and concern etc. Yes, I fool around outside.. but like what some brothers say ' guys will always be guys'. Look around us.. How many guys doesn't fool around outsidde when they have 1) money and 2) time on hand? I admit I am wrong to have committed the what I would say we men's favourtite hobby "extraaffairs' outside be it pt lover, FLs, WLs etc.. but are we attached and married? Yes, we are! But we know who we want and love afterall.

but the girls? They seem to be blinded with things like expensive gifts, good food, convenient and luxury transports, surface care and concern etc.. thats why they say girls fall in love through their ears.. Any guys who can sian her damn well will get to her pants whether she is already attached or even married! This is now a different society where girls are used to being pampered by their men.. And the root cause is because we men are always trying to get into their good books by being nice to them to out level best. The competition heats up and the guy who can give more wins..

Like I say, this is purely my conjecture and I won'texpect all bros to concur with me...

For the sis, before you try to bombard me, think through if what I said is right.. I believe my stone have hit at least 65% of S'pore girls below age 30.

[OceanEleven]

my wife lagi worst!!..Had a agrument with her recently. pay for house, household, etc...save like shit for the wedding dinner and her dream honeymoon (SOUTH KOREA!!!), every month only left a pathetic 100-200 plus myself. Still gota help do housework (which i dun mind actually cuz i felt it muz b shared) Lagi tulan, sometimes realli felt does she ever appreciate what i have done for her..:(
What else is new under the sun? Think about it, after work come home, no cook dinner and eat packet food outside, need to buy her share as well. This is fine as she is working, ask her what she wants and the answer is “anything”. So you go her an “anything but got blasted for “Why the same food?”. “Why buy this?”. Ok bear with it, did your share of housework and maybe even did her part as well and finally took a shower and settle down for a rest and watch TV, then here she comes telling you she wants to switch to her favorite channel but then she starts blabbering about her bitchy boss or colleagues. You put up with it and pretend to listen to her earnestly for a good half and hour. You dare not comment nor add in anything for experience tells you that your views are not needed. After half an hour, you decide to surf the net because the TV does not interest you and her bitching is getting on your nerves and prefer to stay out of her way to avoid any confrontation. Next thing you know half way thru surfing the net, she came in and gave you a good lashing about neglecting her.

What will you do then? Sort it out with her at the risk of sleeping on the sofa? Or simply let her have her fill then retired to bed? :rolleyes:

[loh69]

my wife lagi worst!!..Had a agrument with her recently. pay for house, household, etc...save like shit for the wedding dinner and her dream honeymoon (SOUTH KOREA!!!), every month only left a pathetic 100-200 plus myself. Still gota help do housework (which i dun mind actually cuz i felt it muz b shared) Yet, she go complain her mom that i sibei nuan and always face the computer instead of her. FUCKK!!!..what the hell?! i weekdays work so sianz come back juz wana have some relaxation. Yet she still need me to entertain her. I every sat make an attempt to go out with her, she still not satisfied. Complained that i luv the computer than luv her. CB, i go out also cow bei said always go out with friends. I stay at home play games also cow bei said i prefer to face computer than her. Lagi tulan, sometimes realli felt does she ever appreciate what i have done for her..:(

Hahah, same sticky situation as you. Wify never satisfied, sometimes, she threaten to smash my com, so I can accompany her. What the Fuxxxx.
After I accompany her liao, she will tell me my presence is not needed......:(

C how woman minds flickle.

[suteerak1099]

........I personally feel that the problem is this...women want equal rights...but society till wants to protect them becasue the are the "weaker" gender...go figure...this is one belief that I have had numerous arguments about with "feminist"....Some complain that we men dont treat them in a gentlemanly manner and yet wen we do....they say that we can be overbearing or overly concerned.....I say this...I am wat i am.....you fell in love with me becasue of who I am...not wat u can change me into....... well, yes gers r still gers.. and boys will be boys. mutual respect, concensus...etc. indeed, are ingredients that make things work out. however, put it this way... if it truly were about equal rights & all, then perhaps its time to do away with the woman's charter.

gals having the shorter end of the stick is just a myth. in present day & time, i've witnessed how a shortlived marraige can turn foul (gal using the woman's charter to her advantage). there're cases where the man loses everything. and have to foot the bill to alimony.. still.

about the changes in personality/character... couldnt agree with you more. love is to accomodate & embrace all that the other party is, and not what he/she should be carved into.

[Deep Blue]

I mean no offense, but ur line is so blunt and reckless that I have to say something.

Yea, girls compare their bfs. But, have you thought of their basis for their comparison? Girls' bases for comparison aren't exactly the same as guys'.

PS: ur point form is truly "point form" like reading school notes. :p
There is nothing wrong in comparing but it must be compared apple to apple. What we bitch about are their behaviors and mindset. Their never ending demands had taken toll on many so hence the unpleasant comments we have here.

Look around here, there are many threads about lousy sex life after marriage, how to maintain the love drive etc, what is this all about? And whom are the ones voicing out? Many a times we try and did our part to solve the problem but it seems that the wives/GFs who are the ones who fail to realized the severity of the matters. Perhaps we are seen to be cant be bothered but then we are pretty rational when it comes to foreseeing the consequences if the problem persists. If they continue not to give a hoot about the problems, what else can we do? Most of the time, we buried ourselves in other forms or relief, be it commercial sex, luxurious toys or even work.

We need to channel our energy from somewhere, don’t we? As the big boys toys, we do it after serious considerations and mind you, this will keep us busy for a long time as well. For eg. A $600 PSP, compare to shoes, bags, clothes etc so which is more then? For us, a cake of soap is enough for a shower, for them, there is the shampoo, conditioner, facial foam, facial scrub, some “miracle” shower gel, body scrub, etc. Also, hot water is a must. Take a look at the cost and time, water and electricity consume? If you ever gonna question them, the usual reply is “Well, if I look good, you will be proud as well right?”. We are not here to peel till the last dollars and cents but it is just more about the finer details in life and hopefully they can be more appreciative. :cool:

[FDSeah]

Well what to do, we lie in spore...I think spore had protected the lady too much liao...i remember that SM LEE siad that he should not hae gave woman so much right then the man...which cause the unbalance rights right in spore..

Look at Japan, they are highly fast moving and high tech country but the woman there is low statue...they listen to what man say..that should be the way right??

[beck7777]

Well what to do, we lie in spore...I think spore had protected the lady too much liao...i remember that SM LEE siad that he should not hae gave woman so much right then the man...which cause the unbalance rights right in spore..

Look at Japan, they are highly fast moving and high tech country but the woman there is low statue...they listen to what man say..that should be the way right??


i think the ladies are gonna totally disagree with you bro.. but in a way you are right.. those talks about man and woman rights are just craps.. its fully exploit but some ladies out there.. always make use of it to make things their advantage but saying woman should have equal rights as guys.. but they can also just turn around and crap like guys are the stronger sex lah.. must be gentlemen lah.. ladies 1st lah.. full of sxxt! might as well ask them all to serve NS compulsary just like us..

i do believe ladies deserve certain respect from us.. (eg giving birth.. its some pain that we guys will never ever experience.. thats why we celebrate mother's day right?) but sometimes they just push it abit too far.. :mad:
just MHO...

[Deep Blue]

Well what to do, we lie in spore...I think spore had protected the lady too much liao...i remember that SM LEE siad that he should not hae gave woman so much right then the man...which cause the unbalance rights right in spore..

Look at Japan, they are highly fast moving and high tech country but the woman there is low statue...they listen to what man say..that should be the way right??
That I would like to differ then. I would prefer an equal society. Banishing them from their rights does not make us any much more superior than they do. It is through understand and accepting then a society will improve and a person will improve. :)

[FDSeah]

That I would like to differ then. I would prefer an equal society. Banishing them from their rights does not make us any much more superior than they do. It is through understand and accepting then a society will improve and a person will improve. :)

I do no agreed with u: If amarry woman had a afair outside and nothing will happen to her another way round if man had a afair and was caught we are in deep shit....woman will get the man 50% of what he own and monthly still have to pay her...

Do u call this fair??
How can this improve man??

[OceanEleven]

I do no agreed with u: If amarry woman had a afair outside and nothing will happen to her another way round if man had a afair and was caught we are in deep shit....woman will get the man 50% of what he own and monthly still have to pay her...
Do u call this fair??
How can this improve man??
This is not fair indeed but then the main issues here are about the attitudes, temperament and their treatment towards us, not really about us having affair outside. :)

[suteerak1099]

what's new...? GIRL Power!

It is a myth that when a son gets married and a new daughter in law arrives in the family, everything changes.

Some daughters in law are well trained and well mannered!!!!!. They don't come to change the family, they are there to............

>The new wife was being welcomed at the husband's home in a traditional manner. As expected she gave a speech:

My dear family, I thank you for welcoming me in my new home and family", she said "Firstly, my being here does not mean that I would want to change your way of life, your routine. No, I will never do that, never in a million years".

"What do you mean my child?" Asked the father in law.

"What I mean dad is (looking at her father in law):

Those who used to wash dishes must carry on washing them.
Those who used to do the laundry must carry on doing it.
Those who cooked shouldn't stop at my account, and Those who used to
Clean should continue cleaning".

"Then what are you here for?" Asked the mother in law.

"As for me, my job is to entertain your son! " :D <

wouldnt it be nice?? :p

[Deep Blue]

I do no agreed with u: If amarry woman had a afair outside and nothing will happen to her another way round if man had a afair and was caught we are in deep shit....woman will get the man 50% of what he own and monthly still have to pay her...

Do u call this fair??
How can this improve man??
This is not about fair then. It is about morals and ethnics. Read the rules before playing the game. ;)

[bunnyrabbit]

This is not about fair then. It is about morals and ethnics. Read the rules before playing the game. ;)

all bros...
please see this link....all the thghts and feelings of the gers are here i suppose...how to satisfy them all??

http://www.singaporebrides.com/forumboard/messages/5/5.html?1143555027

alamak!

[Cummingliao]

i do believe ladies deserve certain respect from us.. (eg giving birth.. its some pain that we guys will never ever experience.. thats why we celebrate mother's day right?) but sometimes they just push it abit too far.. :mad: just MHO...

I thought we celebrate Father's Day too? :confused:

[Cummingliao]

I do no agreed with u: If amarry woman had a afair outside and nothing will happen to her another way round if man had a afair and was caught we are in deep shit....woman will get the man 50% of what he own and monthly still have to pay her...

Do u call this fair??
How can this improve man??

This happened to someone I know. He has filed for a divorce due to his wife's infidelity and his wife did not received a single cent from him under Singapore's court of law. They were childless btw. So in a way, our law is still impartial. :)

[Cummingliao]

all bros...
please see this link....all the thghts and feelings of the gers are here i suppose...how to satisfy them all??

http://www.singaporebrides.com/forumboard/messages/5/5.html?1143555027

alamak!

Wow!!! This forum seems to be even more interesting than Sammyboy. Sorry guys, I think I'm going to shift camp liao. Hahaa... :D

[singamojo]

so bros - when they ask "does this make me look fat" - what to do - run?

[singamojo]

dont know if you saw this alredi - if so my apologies...

How to Make a Woman Happy

It's not difficult to make a woman happy. A man only needs to be:

1. a friend
2. a companion
3. a lover
4. a brother
5. a father
6. a master
7. a chef
8. an electrician
9. a carpenter
10. a plumber
11. a mechanic
12. a decorator
13. a stylist
14. a sexologist
15. a gynecologist
16. a psychologist
17. a pest exterminator
18. a psychiatrist
19. a healer
20. a good listener
21. an organizer
22. a good father
23. very clean
24. sympathetic
25. athletic
26. warm
27. attentive
28. gallant
29. intelligent
30. funny
31. creative
32. tender
33. strong
34. understanding
35. tolerant
36. prudent
37. ambitious
38. capable
39. courageous
40. determined
41. true
42. dependable
43. passionate
44. compassionate

WITHOUT FORGETTING TO:

45. give her compliments regularly
46. love shopping
47. be honest
48. be very rich
49. not stress her out
50. not look at other girls

AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU MUST ALSO:

51. give her lots of attention, but expect little yourself.
52. give her lots of time, especially time for herself.
53. give her lots of space, never worrying about where she goes

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT:

54. Never to forget:
· birthdays
· anniversaries
· arrangements she makes


HOW TO MAKE A MAN HAPPY:

1. Bring food
2. Show up Naked

[singamojo]

apologise if u seen alredi - but i think pretty funny

How to Make a Woman Happy

It's not difficult to make a woman happy. A man only needs to be:

1. a friend
2. a companion
3. a lover
4. a brother
5. a father
6. a master
7. a chef
8. an electrician
9. a carpenter
10. a plumber
11. a mechanic
12. a decorator
13. a stylist
14. a sexologist
15. a gynecologist
16. a psychologist
17. a pest exterminator
18. a psychiatrist
19. a healer
20. a good listener
21. an organizer
22. a good father
23. very clean
24. sympathetic
25. athletic
26. warm
27. attentive
28. gallant
29. intelligent
30. funny
31. creative
32. tender
33. strong
34. understanding
35. tolerant
36. prudent
37. ambitious
38. capable
39. courageous
40. determined
41. true
42. dependable
43. passionate
44. compassionate

WITHOUT FORGETTING TO:
45. give her compliments regularly
46. love shopping
47. be honest
48. be very rich
49. not stress her out
50. not look at other girls

AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU MUST ALSO:

51. give her lots of attention, but expect little yourself.
52. give her lots of time, especially time for herself.
53. give her lots of space, never worrying about where she goes

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT:
54. Never to forget:
• birthdays
• anniversaries
• arrangements she makes

HOW TO MAKE A MAN HAPPY:

1. Bring food
2. Show up Naked

[ytytytyt]

HOW TO MAKE A MAN HAPPY:

1. Bring food
2. Show up Naked


LOL!!:D :D

[suteerak1099]

typical lady & her shower
1. Take off clothing and place it in sectioned laundry basket according to lights and darks.
2. Walk to bathroom wearing long dressing gown. If you see your husband along the way, cover up any exposed flesh and rush to the bathroom.
3. Look at your womanly physique in the mirror and stick out your gut so that you can complain and whine even more about how you're getting fat.
4. Get in the shower.
5. Look for facecloth, armcloth, legcloth, long loofah, wide loofah and pumice stone.
6. Wash your hair once with Cucumber and Lamfrey shampoo with 81 added vitamins.
7. Wash your hair again with Cucumber and Lamfrey shampoo with 81 added vitamins.
8. Condition your hair with Cucumber and Lamfrey conditioner enhanced with natural crocus oil. Leave on hair for fifteen minutes.
9. Wash your face with crushed apricot facial scrub for ten minutes until red raw.
10. Wash entire rest of body with Ginger Nut and Jaffa Cake body wash.
11. Rinse conditioner off hair.
12. Shave armpits and legs. Consider shaving bikini area but decide to get it waxed instead.
13. Scream loudly when your husband flushes the toilet.
14. Turn off shower.
15. Squeegee off all wet surfaces in shower. Spray mould spots with Mould and Mildew Remover.
16. Get out of shower. Dry with towel the size of a small African Country.
17. Wrap hair in super absorbent second towel.
18. Check entire body for the remotest sign of a blemish.
19. Return to bedroom wearing long dressing gown and towel on head.
20. If you see your husband along the way, cover up any exposed areas and then rush to bedroom to spend an hour and a half getting dressed.

:p

[Red_Perrier1099]

typical lady & her shower
.......
.......
:p

Bro, good effort.

Wish I could up you for the effort. ;)

[OceanEleven]

typical lady & her shower
:p
Married such woman, if she is nice and gentle then all is fine but if she is demanding and bitchy, then god bless you. :D

[vesfreq]

Married such woman, if she is nice and gentle then all is fine but if she is demanding and bitchy, then god bless you.

Few are nice and gentle. I think even my barber is more nice and gentle than most of the gals in my office. :D

Every month got their silly moods. wtf. Now, I drive down the street without gf. Feeling damn good, cos' don't have to answer silly phone calls from girls complaining not happy or feeling moody.

[solidrock]

Few are nice and gentle. I think even my barber is more nice and gentle than most of the gals in my office.

Every month got their silly moods.
She has to be very "nice and gentle" or there goes another customer. :)

When you are "in the red", it means you are in financial debt; you are in big trouble.
When she is "in the red," it means you'll be in bigger trouble than if you were in debt! :D

Heck, when Elder Aunt comes visiting, Sweet Young Things turn into MONSTERS!

They must think we must be quite dumb, because we still marry them.

[vesfreq]

She has to be very "nice and gentle" or there goes another customer.

When you are "in the red", it means you are in financial debt; you are in big trouble.
When she is "in the red," it means you'll be in bigger trouble than if you were in debt!

Heck, when Elder Aunt comes visiting, Sweet Young Things turn into MONSTERS!

They must think we must be quite dumb, because we still marry them.

They think we are dumb, but we confirm that they must be doubly dumb. :D

Did anyone read the recent papers about the young japs not getting married, cos of lack of financial .... "stability"?

I was telling one friend. Get gf so mah fan, need to entertain her and keep her happy. Eventually, might have to sign on the dotted line and even see her change.... ie to take the hubby for granted.

Worse is that SG girls are so prone to spending excessively on nail .... slimming and etc .... kind of aesthetic enhancement procedures. And, when guy buy one set of rims to enhance car safety and handling on the road, girl can make a big fuss over it.

Bro, u r absolutely right. If girl is in the red, it is deeper red for the guy. Provision of financial contributions is, somehow, what females think guys are ... morally obligated to do. Of course, failing which means that the guy(s) concerned is incapable of providing "emotional and financial security".

I got one pair of hands, but I choose to sign cheque ... not to pay for a girl's spa slimming treatment. Rather pay for my spoiler and see the girl's crossed look. :D If must waste money, I rather waste on something I like (not what she likes). Love is ... unconditional. It is selfish.

[suteerak1099]

.........Heck, when Elder Aunt comes visiting, Sweet Young Things turn into MONSTERS!

They must think we must be quite dumb, because we still marry them. thats why the same old saynig goes, when a man marry a woman, he loses his Bachelor's while she on the other hand attains her Master's. hehehe :eek:

[suteerak1099]

-joke to share- (reference from FHM joke column - some time ago)

man's talk between a son & father;-

boy: dad, i'm curious to know how much it cost to afford a car?
dad: well, typically around the range of 70k++ to 120k++ (depending on your taste of ride)
boy: dad, then how much does it cost to afford a wife?
dad: good question son, i really dont know... as of today, i'm still counting...:(
boy: oh! :eek:

[solidrock]

If girl is in the red, it is deeper red for the guy. Provision of financial contributions is, somehow, what females think guys are ... morally obligated to do. Of course, failing which means that the guy(s) concerned is incapable of providing "emotional and financial security".
When I mentioned, "when she is 'in the red," I meant when she is having her menses.... LOL! That's when she'll become uncontrollable because her hormonal change will wreak havoc with her normal behaviour.

If you are her bf or hubby, get out of her way unless you want to be a willing dartboard for her frustrations....:eek:

[suteerak1099]

.......Did anyone read the recent papers about the young japs not getting married, cos of lack of financial .... "stability"? well, japs do have a freaking high standard of living, its almost impossible to afford cab ride to destinations not unless its on the company's account. (even that is subject to approval for reimbursements).

commuting via the trains already can be a hefty cost, and particularly the reason why most commuters prefer to commute during the un-earthly hours (peak hour charges too pricey).

in some cases, getting settled is as good as going diving with an anvil tied round the neck.

I was telling one friend. Get gf so mah fan, need to entertain her and keep her happy. Eventually, might have to sign on the dotted line and even see her change.... ie to take the hubby for granted. getting gf is mah fan, but it'd be a killer if her spots reveal after putting the pen to the paper.

(invisible terms & conditions): her $ is her $, you $ is her $ too... :eek:

Worse is that SG girls are so prone to spending excessively on nail .... slimming and etc .... kind of aesthetic enhancement procedures. And, when guy buy one set of rims to enhance car safety and handling on the road, girl can make a big fuss over it. some minor expenditure on cosmetics & stuff, still quite bearable - end of the day, she wants to doll up & look pretty for her man.

but when it crosses the line, where she frequents the spa more than the parents/in-laws. indulge in extravagance on her 'wants' instead of domestic 'needs' etc... expect the man to be supporting all other bills except her's (occassionally asking for maintenance/allowance) something really is wrong. i tell you, the ladies card is the ultimate killer for any given circumstance.

I got one pair of hands, but I choose to sign cheque ... not to pay for a girl's spa slimming treatment. Rather pay for my spoiler and see the girl's crossed look. :D If must waste money, I rather waste on something I like (not what she likes). Love is ... unconditional. It is selfish. if she's entitled her rights to satisfy her 'wants', rightly so... she's no right to gripe when the man deos his part for the 'needs' for domestic/transportation maintenance.

[suteerak1099]

how women these days take things for granted?

1. she's been spoon fed all the while (in the comfort of her dad's household). domestic chores/errands/duties taken care of by the almighty mother/maid

2. she thinks credit card bills will automatically dissolve/disintegrate at the end of the month (when she realizes there's need to return the bank - she goes to her dad), but once married.. her man succeeds this role. (perhaps, thats the reason why most parents hurry their daughters to marry fast/early when they come of age)

3. she thinks domestic chores/duties are to be fulfilled by the mother/maid, so its absurd to expect her to lift her (expensive manicured fingers) to do simple things at home

4. she thinks she married a superman, so he's expected to be the all-rounder. 1 who can fetch the bacon, feed her, as well as her folks (sometimes forgetting that the man's folks exist), pay for the maid's levy (but often the maid is summoned to nurse her folks), leave the parental duties to the man and/or maid - so she got her personal time to go shopping...etc

5. she gets jealous when the children's affection grow for the maid and not her. some driven to the extreme where she abuses the maid, because her man dotes on the maid a little.

6. she thinks the hdb apt is fully paid for (and comes fully furnished), once the pen is put to the paper

7. she thinks less time spent at home = less or zero utility bills liable

8. she thinks air-con is FOC, and she can leave it on 24/7, if conserve abit, she use it as excuse to spend time in places where there's air-con

9. excessive use/exposure to air-con gives her the sacred right to indulge in beauty/spa - because the skin is dry

10. she thinks our cars are like matchbox/hotwheel toy cars from toy shop, no need maintenance upon purchase. she kicks up a big fuss that we overspend on the fuel consumption/mileage (forgetting that 60%-75% of it is clocked for ferrying her from point A to point B - sometimes to point C, D, E, F...etc)

[suteerak1099]

Few are nice and gentle. I think even my barber is more nice and gentle than most of the gals in my office. :D

Every month got their silly moods. wtf. Now, I drive down the street without gf. Feeling damn good, cos' don't have to answer silly phone calls from girls complaining not happy or feeling moody. gentle and nice?? lol, you dont say.. lady-boys can be more mild & gentle (though their physic still a tinge masculine) :D

and lady-boys dont have that cranky time of the month..LOL

[EtherC]

My PHD(Permanent Head Damage) thesis on the differentiation of Men & Women:


Women do not come from Venus nor do men come from Mars. Men and women are essentially from 2 alternate realities and the operating physics of each gender's realities are drastically different but with some overlapping aspects. Women operate in a Ptolemaic system while men operate in a Copernican reality and Sex is the wormhole that joins the 2 realities. In a men's dimension basic universal forces include: honor, logic, duty, ROI-return on investment, efficiency, toys, power & wealth. Emotion exists only as a weak interacting force. In the women's dimension there is only 1 Unifying Force: emotion.

If you are a man trying to survive in a woman's dimension beware of strong emotional flux that may occur every nanosec/millisec/sec/min/day/month/year/decade/century/millenia etc. Slipshod protection measures against Emotional Flux results in men being torn to shreds. Time is also relatively malleable in the female universe as the Unifying Force of Emotion distorts the time-space fabric hence a span of 5mins measured in the men's universe may be distorted to 30mins. Electromagnetism which is essentially communicated by the particle named honor in the men's universe is non-existent in the female universe. Resultant phenomenon from lack of honor is: under the belt catfights, cry-rape/molests and queue cutting. Due to the overwhelming Unifying Force of Emotion, distances in the female universe are of no linear consequence. This in turns leads to Efficiency & Logic approaching zero. To understand these phenomenon of non-linear distance please direct your attention to the following diagram:

Men's Universe:

West------ Central ------ East

Tuas-------Toa Payoh ---- Changi
Pt A-----> Pt B --------> Pt C

(PS: Positive identification of Efficeny and Logic as non-zero entities)

Women's Universe:


Central ---- West ------- North

Tuas------ Changi ------ Kranji
Pt A<------- Pt C -------> Pt D

(Ps:Sometimes they get it right owing to probability, hence Logic is non-zero but Efficiency is approaching zero.)

Conclusion:

When venturing into the women dimension, men are advised to travel in a sound-proof spaceships equipped with thick skin shields and nag-filters. Men must be aware that in a Ptolemaic system she is the center of the Universe. Hence pilot your shuttle into constant orbit around her planet. For fuel efficiency, pampering and good humor are excellent fuel additives. Wearing a Patience helmet will also protect men from the harmful radiation emitted during Emotion Flares. Do not attempt Logic and Efficiency in a women’s reality as this will result in antimatter which invokes violent reactions. Good luck, femnauts!

I would like to extend my gratitude to the bros in Sammyboy Forum for their contributions which inspired this paper. Hope you guys enjoyed it.

[OceanEleven]

If you are her bf or hubby, get out of her way unless you want to be a willing dartboard for her frustrations....:eek:

You can run but you can never hide.......:D

[Five Stone]

Worse is that SG girls are so prone to spending excessively on nail .... slimming and etc .... kind of aesthetic enhancement procedures. And, when guy buy one set of rims to enhance car safety and handling on the road, girl can make a big fuss over it.


It reminds me of a friend complaining to me. He stay in Woodlands and his wife made him drive all the way to Seng Xiong Supermarket because the milo is 20 cents cheaper and maggie mee 30 cents cheaper than NTUC......:rolleyes: What never occurs to them is that the petrol and parking cost does not justify the savings.

End of day I really wonder if they know their maths. All the manicure, pedicure, gels, creams, pills etc adds up compare to us wanting an Xbox 360............:cool:

[Ah Seng]

What to do.........that's why before married think twice hard.......want to F*** then please don't hiam lor...........:cool:

[gilagila100]

When I mentioned, "when she is 'in the red," I meant when she is having her menses.... LOL! That's when she'll become uncontrollable because her hormonal change will wreak havoc with her normal behaviour.

If you are her bf or hubby, get out of her way unless you want to be a willing dartboard for her frustrations....:eek:

Hehe ... heard this story from a fren tat heard it on a radio talk show about women's period ... most guys wld call in and explain tat becoz of hormonal changes n other biological factors, women will be moody n unreasonable ...

but one lady called and said sometin tat blew all of them off ... she said "How happy can u feel when u hav a piece of damp and sticky pad downunder for the whole day ?" :cool:

[vesfreq]

It reminds me of a friend complaining to me. He stay in Woodlands and his wife made him drive all the way to Seng Xiong Supermarket because the milo is 20 cents cheaper and maggie mee 30 cents cheaper than NTUC......:rolleyes: What never occurs to them is that the petrol and parking cost does not justify the savings.

End of day I really wonder if they know their maths. All the manicure, pedicure, gels, creams, pills etc adds up compare to us wanting an Xbox 360............:cool:

I wonder if pedicure is a word invented in modern time? All these stuff damn financially sinful.

Xbox 360 good what. At least, u play at home, she won't have to worry about u playing bunny on the bed with some other girl. lol.

Ur friend wife very "thoughtful". Parking already 1 buck at least. Goodness me.

u guys should watch 1 litre of tears. A jap drama. Makes me wonder why Singapore women (most) cannot be half as noble.

[vesfreq]

What to do.........that's why before married think twice hard.......want to F*** then please don't hiam lor...........:cool:

Hahah. Think not just twice hard, but triply hard, before evening signing on the dotted line.