Liverpool Fc @ Anfield - Reds Supporters Gatherings

[omnia]

to all u En Rafa Confiamos fans out there...yes u know who u r...i suggest u go read "Above Us Only Sky" by Paul Tomkins...perhaps the biggest Rafa apologist running ard...Tomkins is probably yr 'hero'...this book was written by Tomkins just after those yankee money grubbers had bought over the club...boy was Tomkins' forecast of good things to come well off the mark...but what really took the cake was n still is Tomkins' stick in the mud resolute defence of all things Rafa...his latest victim being Jaime Redknapp...

[Xgenre]

to all u En Rafa Confiamos fans out there...yes u know who u r......

I think you got to get it straight. We are Liverpool fans, not Rafa fans, not Lucas fans. We support the club, period. You are a liverpool fan, so are we. Why type such comments here?

You think we can't see that Rafa isn't doing well or Lucas isn't good enough? The point is we are in a rut now. We should magnify every little strength and minimise every major flaw now to try to get ourselves back on track.

Keep harping about Lucas isn't going to help. Who do you have in mind that can replace even a lousy Lucas? Do we have the money to replace Lucas? If replacing Lucas is a long term goal, the short term goal should be encouraging Lucas to perform because we don't have many others who can be better than him in our squad now. You do know we have a long injury list right?

[bochapsing]

I think you got to get it straight. We are Liverpool fans, not Rafa fans, not Lucas fans. We support the club, period. You are a liverpool fan, so are we. Why type such comments here?

relax bro... just ignore and not replying to such comment lor...

can't believe tat our own fans (and some x-player) turning against own players and manager and whacking them at every chance...

let's wait and see where will lucas be in few years time... i believe many people will have to eat their words... :p:p:p

[Xgenre]

relax bro... just ignore and not replying to such comment lor...

Yes sir I will. ;)

[rahl]

I think you got to get it straight. We are Liverpool fans, not Rafa fans, not Lucas fans. We support the club, period. You are a liverpool fan, so are we. Why type such comments here?

I know bro, some fans 'love' the club so much they will tear it down in order to save it.

I think a couple of weeks AXL said it well. It's not about supporting Rafa or Lucas but the club. I will support any manager and player who come to Anfield with a good heart and gives his best. Any other fan can give 'constructive' criticism of the players and manager (easy to do especially in this Internet age). What makes Pool different is the support for the club.

So far there have been only 3 individuals whom I have said good riddance from Pool - Diouf, Judas and Souness. damn they all rhyme ;)

[beck7777]

I So far there have been only 3 individuals whom I have said good riddance from Pool - Diouf, Judas and Souness. damn they all rhyme ;)

Dont start on Souness, else AXL see liao will make comments again! :p

[bochapsing]

torres may be back against blackburn... and hopeful aquailani plays some part of the game.. and finally tis will more like our 1st XI...

Reina;Johnson,Carragher,Agger,Insua/Aurelio;Kuyt,Macherano,Aquilani,Riera/Beneyoun;Gerrard,Torres...

but guess rafa will still start with lucas and ngog.. with aquilani and torres coming off the bench... afterall, both r coming back from lengthy injury and rafa may not want to risk them..

another piece of good new, Sam Allardyce is back in Blackburn dugout... :p:p:p

~~YNWA~~

[rahl]

but guess rafa will still start with lucas and ngog.. with aquilani and torres coming off the bench... afterall, both r coming back from lengthy injury and rafa may not want to risk them..


About time Aquilani starts too. Only know if someone is fit by playing them.

I'd like to see him and Mascher in midfield. Mascher has impressed me this season - trying to take responsibility as a Argentina captain would do. And his shooting has improved heheh.

[Grounded Eagle]

......torres may be back against blackburn... and hopeful aquailani plays some part of the game..


*SIGH* Torres not playing again tonite :(
He was left behind at Melwood when the team made their way to Blackburn.

[qw2op]

boring match ... :(

[Cum_Luver]

yes,a boring match.
at least 2nd half,more actions.

[rahl]

Another of those matches where we played 11 and only 10 performed in the first half. Rafa made one of his rare moves and brought off Riera just after half time. He was really poor.

Better second half but we didn't deserve to win (and could have lost it in the dying minutes if not for Reina again).

Torres and Aquilani next match pls?

[joew2005]

I m not a die hard fan,but i support The Reds.

I hate say tis,but hv 2 say it.

The gap bet Liverpool & Arsenal,spurs,manc,villa is slowing widening.

Pls STOP it ..... not soon ..... but NOW.

[pirambi]

Rafa almost destructing liverpool. I cant remember any silverware which he got for liverpool(of course hte champions league was due to gerrards sheer brilliance). If this continues, the day is not so for ahead where they will be fighting for relegation:D

[bochapsing]

hope to see aquilani and some young players like pacheco, kelly rather then voronin, deggen etc in action tonite...

as rafa said, let's bow out in style....

btw, we've juve, marseille, wolfsburg and atletico madrid dropping into Europa Cup too... none is going to be an easy opponent...

[The MilkMan]

a very disappointing result for us again.
let just forget about winning something this season and aim for a top 4 finish.

[ProfessorOokami]

I wondered why Rafa didn't deploy Lucas in this match??? Was it that Rafa wanted to prove that with or without Lucas, we still would lose :confused:

[Ninja_Assassin]

I wondered why Rafa didn't deploy Lucas in this match??? Was it that Rafa wanted to prove that with or without Lucas, we still would lose :confused:

Lucas very important player in Rafa's plans. so must rest him for next game against Arsenal :D

[bochapsing]

according to reports in media....

negative:
-another late late goal... we had conceded 3 late goals in CL (2 vs Lyon)
-2 CBs played badly

positive:
-torres came oon as a sub and played well
-aquilani came thru 70 min, showed some nice passes and touches
-pacheco impressed during his 10-20 min sub appearance
-darby decent game till losed his man which led to 2nd goal

let's move on....

[rahl]

according to reports in media....

negative:
-another late late goal... we had conceded 3 late goals in CL (2 vs Lyon)
-2 CBs played badly

positive:
-torres came oon as a sub and played well
-aquilani came thru 70 min, showed some nice passes and touches
-pacheco impressed during his 10-20 min sub appearance
-darby decent game till losed his man which led to 2nd goal

let's move on....

Bro I didn't watch the match but I caught the Lyon match - it would be wrong to blame it on late goals. It seems we had lost control of the match by the time which is really more worrying. And to do so at home is truly disappointing.

As you said, let's move on with a fresh mentality in the league and the remaining cups.

Don't forget, Yossi has been scoring goals and playing well too ;)

[joew2005]

ppl r creating alot of rumours & tensions in The Reds' camp.

Javier Mascherano hasn't commit himself 2 a further contract extension
Mascherano coy over Liverpool contract extension - Barclays Premier League - ESPN Soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=711080&sec=england&cc=4716&cc=4716)

Graeme Souness fears Liverpool downward spiral
Graeme Souness fears for Liverpool downward spiral - UEFA Champions League - ESPN Soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=711009&sec=england&cc=4716&cc=4716)

Rafa Benitez hits back at critics
Rafa Benitez hits back at critics, slams Jurgen Klinsmann - Barclays Premier League - ESPN Soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=711641&sec=england&cc=4716&cc=4716)

It's so easy 4 ppl like jurgen klinsmann & graeme souness 2 talk rubbish abt Rafa's situation now.
Maybe they were trying 2 get him out of the HOT seat @ Anfield,so tat they k take his place.
Like wat Rafa said,both klinsmann & souness hv fantastic records as managers. They hv not won any major hounors as managers themselve.:rolleyes:

[pirambi]

Just a loss to Arsenal will make sure that Rafa Panteez gets out of the hot seat. I guess his ass is already burning.

[rahl]

ppl r creating alot of rumours & tensions in The Reds' camp.

Like wat Rafa said,both klinsmann & souness hv fantastic records as managers. They hv not won any major hounors as managers themselve.:rolleyes:

The media really. The Mascher report is really hoo-ha about nothing.

Did Klinsmann say anything? I thought he was quite diplomatic since being caught in the floodlights.

Souness won us the FA Cup but of course you were talking about major honours heheheh.

[pirambi]

Just a loss to Arsenal will make sure that Rafa Panteez gets out of the hot seat. I guess his ass is already burning.

rafas' ass is so big, thhat it cud serve barbeques for all the gay supporters here:eek:

[GeMiNiZzzzZzz]

The results earlier should do us just about right - Chelsea & Man City both drawing..

BUT, We must WIN tmw to take advantage of this situation if not it will just count for nothing again ;)

[joew2005]

manc drop pts away against Bolton with a 3 - 3 draw. 2 pts drop.
Report: Bolton Wanderers vs Manchester City - English Premier League - ESPN Soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=269853&league=ENG.1&cc=4716)

spurs lost 0 - 1 @ home 2 Wolver.3 pts drop .... @ home.
Report: Tottenham Hotspur vs Wolverhampton Wanderers - English Premier League - ESPN Soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=270049&league=ENG.1&cc=4716)

good chance 2 do catching up ..... :cool:

[pirambi]

Looks like its a week of upsets. so Liverpool just might get thro and
Gays, you have to wait for somemore time for Rafasss Barbeque.:mad:

[Cum_Luver]

match just about to start.
this should be our strongest squad on the field with both Gerrard and Torres starting...

[pirambi]

The day of upsets didnt work for Sunday :mad:... Looks like Glen Johnson is so interested in Rafasss that he deflected towards his own goal, and wat to say abt Arshavins brilliance. All Gays, your Rafass Barbeque party will be inaugurated by none other than the Cheat Xabi......:D . you liverpool Gays are one lucky fellaws. Big Ass of Rafasss coming ur way.. njoy.........

[bochapsing]

another defeat... expect to see more anti-rafa fans coming here to call for his head....

but the team performance is much, much better... i strongly believe tat we are getting back on track with our first team playing... just too bad tat we can take advantage of other teams losing points this weekend..

but lady luck is still not with us... only the referee knew why tat gallas tackle on gerrard was not a penalty (i believe he would say tat gerrard was losing control of the ball at tat moment, which i think it's bullshit!!)... and oso tat unfortunate own goal by johnson...

glad to see no new injuries (except macherano who took a knock), and aquilani and torres getting back to full fitness..

hopefully we are getting over our nightmare of injuries and string of bad lucks...

~YNWA~

[Cum_Luver]

a better performance but still a defeat.
next wednesday,against Wigan,can we win it. i think will be another low scoring and difficult match.

[Alkano]

Utterly guted and disappointed....
Deem as the on the road recovery match....now deem as death blow match..
Now even more grounds to cover for this loss....:(

[rahl]

another defeat... expect to see more anti-rafa fans coming here to call for his head....

but the team performance is much, much better... i strongly believe tat we are getting back on track with our first team playing... just too bad tat we can take advantage of other teams losing points this weekend..



~YNWA~

Good to see a Pool diehard here (compared to that scumbag who only posts in *our* thread).

I'm pretty gutted, not cos we lost but after Arse went 2-1 up, we had no ideas and could not muster a fight back. Did we even have a decent chance after that? I can't think of one.

Ref was shit of course (the more I see of Webb the less I like) and we were unlucky to concede 2, but it's the response that has been missing.

We have set a worrying trend of scoring first and then losing at Anfield.

Only bright spot is the return to fitness of the three - Stevie Torres and AA. Torres must be completely shattered at the end of the match. It will be a long road to full match fitness for them. :(

[bochapsing]

we had no ideas and could not muster a fight back. Did we even have a decent chance after that? I can't think of one.


we used to be famous for fight back during the last few seasons, but this season we have been conceding late goals instead... guess tis is due to players' lack of confidence...

[rahl]

we used to be famous for fight back during the last few seasons, but this season we have been conceding late goals instead... guess tis is due to players' lack of confidence...

Yup, there is a lot of fear among the players.

But to be fair comebacks also require fitness and we should be better positioned when our injured trio get back to 100%. ;)

[beck7777]

we used to be famous for fight back during the last few seasons, but this season we have been conceding late goals instead... guess tis is due to players' lack of confidence...

Yup, there is a lot of fear among the players.

But to be fair comebacks also require fitness and we should be better positioned when our injured trio get back to 100%. ;)

Yes, last season, opponents wont know if they have truly beat us until the final whistle cos we are so good at comebacks..

This season, the belief and confidence is all gone due to the poor run we had..

Of cos as mentioned, fitness play a part...

One thing that worries me about Arsenal game is lack of fire power if Torres is injury again (touchwood)..

Ngog have proved again that, he cant touch, pass or control which is quite worrying give the fact that he is 2nd choice striker...
Something we might correct during the Jan window, that is if we have money... :(

Overall, we really need a good run of like 5-6 games to get back the "feel-good" factor and perhaps, the season will look much brighter for us :D

[pirambi]

Good to see a Pool diehard here (compared to that scumbag who only posts in *our* thread).

I'm pretty gutted, not cos we lost but after Arse went 2-1 up, we had no ideas and could not muster a fight back. Did we even have a decent chance after that? I can't think of one.

:(
U kick on Rafa;s arse everything will be fine.... Btw you too gay... I guess you are much interested in Wenger's arse. thats too small compared to Rafasss.

[pirambi]

wat a bastardous act by masch.. really feel pity for rafasss and liverpool fans.

[rahl]

Must be the worst match I have seen this season.

I don't see any excuses (even with the dubious red) and I hope the team and Rafa won't come up with any tomorrow.

No one out there deserved to wear the Red shirt, including Rafa. He totally gave up the second half, looking at his demeanor.

This must be rock bottom or is that still to come... :(

[GeMiNiZzzzZzz]

Very disappointing game..

Crosses & passes were haywired..
Masch was terrible even before he got send off
Torres was losing the ball so often even tough he tried hard..
Yossi got injure again..
Bottom place possesion was more than us (so wat if we had a man send off)
Pitch was sucks to the core
Everything went wrong ...

...At least Manure got thrash too...;)

[Cum_Luver]

the only consolation is MU also lost.
yap,a very disappointing performance.
with Villa,Man City and Spurs winning,we have a tough task on-hand to secure the 4th place.

[too_hot]

the only consolation is MU also lost.
yap,a very disappointing performance.
with Villa,Man City and Spurs winning,we have a tough task on-hand to secure the 4th place.

initially i also felt the same (consoled that manure also lost) - but then i realised, wats there to be consoled? its not like we're challenging them for the title right? i am more consoled if villa, spurs, city were to lose. we can no longer mentioned ourselves in the same sentence as manure, chelski or arse - and that the painful truth.

with last night's debacle, we will now be 9th in the table if birmigham & fulham win their games in hand.....how did our team become so bbaadddd? wad more excuses do we (or rafa) have?

[y68708903]

i am devastated as you LFC faithfuls...haiz....such disappointment and embarassment, 7th loss and its looking from bad to worst, can somebody console mi as i cant bear to watch another game in tragedy.....:(

[A Simple Man]

i think Liverpool should change a manager,just like what Man City did.

[Frankiestine]

This season form is really making last season excellent run look like a fluke. It is time that the players stop thinking that they are a "BIG CLUB" players and deserves to be the in the best cup competition. LIVERPOOL is a BIG CLUB but the current lot of players sure ain't. At this rate, I don't see them winning anything this season and worse they might not even qualify for any CL spots let alone a spot for UEFA...:(:(

[joew2005]

It ain't over till it's over.
The Reds hv 20 games left 2 grab as many pts as possible.
a few pts lost 4 villa,spurs & manc would see them slip down the table.
a few wins 4 The Reds would see them move up the table.

[hawksbay]

its getting frm bad to worst,we were rubbish,better not even think of 4th plc,jus don t get sucked into relegation battle,its over 4 us,jus stay up n build again 4 next season.we r lacking in confidence, its jus a mess a total mess.jc better pray harder cos god is not listening.reminds me of the last days of gh.haiz hope rafa won t throw in the towel.

[rahl]

jc better pray harder cos god is not listening.reminds me of the last days of gh.haiz hope rafa won t throw in the towel.

god has retired ;)

[pirambi]

the only consolation is MU also lost.
yap,a very disappointing performance.
with Villa,Man City and Spurs winning,we have a tough task on-hand to secure the 4th place.

Talking like a real stupid Liverfool. first wash ur shit then u can worry abt others ... Atleast manu still will be playing champions league this season and probably next season. Dont know where liverpool will end up. They are at the same point differnce from the bottom as from the top. Grow up. U had the same silly satisfaction last season, when liverpool did a double, but finaly wat happend, now you are facing adverse situation than ever before. Cud Rafa be replaced by Mark Hughes... time will tel..

[Frankiestine]

It ain't over till it's over.
The Reds hv 20 games left 2 grab as many pts as possible.
a few pts lost 4 villa,spurs & manc would see them slip down the table.
a few wins 4 The Reds would see them move up the table.

why must the team fate always depends what the results of others? it wouldn't have come to this pathetic state if only they had played like a true RED team...

[Alkano]

My heart sank like the titanic after the dismal performance by pool.
The team is lacking of confidence.
Rafa tactics is not doing well....
Saw him on the bench beside Sammy Lee, not shouting at the guys with his instructions.....
Sad...really sad....:(

[rahl]

why must the team fate always depends what the results of others? it wouldn't have come to this pathetic state if only they had played like a true RED team...

The way we played, even if the other teams drop points (and they will), we won't make Europe and will end up mid-table.

[pirambi]

The way we played, even if the other teams drop points (and they will), we won't make Europe and will end up mid-table.
well said.. thats a true perspective..

[Roman city]

So far, Liverpool's performance has been consistently inconsistent. Gerrard has not been playing too well of late, guilty of some stray passes. Looks like even a top 4 finish would be an uphill task.......I hope, I think, I know......:)

[bochapsing]

god has retired

GOD has not retired... he's still playing in australia... :D:D

sighed... thot we've reached the bottom and couldn't get any worse... but everything tat can go wrong simply went wrong... :(:(

[beck7777]

Some bros here might not agree but I only got 1 word after watching Sat game and that is : Disgraceful :mad:

No character, no fighting spirit, no idea.
Even before Masch got sent off, we look lost after letting in the goal... :mad:

Well, now that Masch is suspended for 4 games, maybe Aqua-man can finally start some matches? :rolleyes:

[SKILLFULL LICK]

Some bros here might not agree but I only got 1 word after watching Sat game and that is : Disgraceful :mad:

No character, no fighting spirit, no idea.
Even before Masch got sent off, we look lost after letting in the goal... :mad:

Well, now that Masch is suspended for 4 games, maybe Aqua-man can finally start some matches? :rolleyes:

I give u my 2 hand plus my 2 feet...TOTALLY AGREE:mad:

[rahl]

Some bros here might not agree but I only got 1 word after watching Sat game and that is : Disgraceful :mad:



Don't see why any fan here would disagree with you bro.

Btw you found out about your rep? :confused:

[Grounded Eagle]

GOD has not retired... he's still playing in australia...

And scoring regularly for the Northern Queensland Fury Team :D

[Grounded Eagle]

i think Liverpool should change a manager,just like what Man City did.

Even if the yankees want to change.... dun tink they have the $$$.
Rafa just signed a new 5 year contract....... to fire him need to pay compensation of 20 million pounds :rolleyes:

[hawksbay]

Even if the yankees want to change.... dun tink they have the $$$.
Rafa just signed a new 5 year contract....... to fire him need to pay compensation of 20 million pounds :rolleyes:

sacking rafa is not the answer to the prob,class is permanent n form is temporary,we need to go on a run of wins during the holiday period if not we r in deep trbl.rafa shd go get van the man during the jan transfer window.

[bochapsing]

sacking rafa is not the answer to the prob,class is permanent n form is temporary,we need to go on a run of wins during the holiday period if not we r in deep trbl.rafa shd go get van the man during the jan transfer window.

yes...
we can't suddenly become a bad team over the summer, just because the loss of alonso... and rafa din turn into a bad manager overnite too...
any team and manager sure will go thru difficult times during their career life, just like u and me...
lets' continue to believe in and support our team...

~YNWA

[beck7777]

Btw you found out about your rep? :confused:


never but it doesnt matter... :p

[Xgenre]

lets' continue to believe in and support our team...

~YNWA

What else can we do? :p

No one jumps out of a plane just because the plane is going through rough turbulence. The only way out is to tighten your seat belt and bear through the journey till smoother days arrive.

Given Liverpool's reputation, I don't think we ever sacked any manager. Every non-performing manager is politely asked to leave right? Did my memory serve me correctly?

Like Houllier... asked to leave at the end of the season.
Evans quit the team right?
Shankly retired.
Kenny resigned.
Not sure about Paisley, Fagan or that Sour man (leave already always talk bad about us)

[rahl]

Like Houllier... asked to leave at the end of the season.



That's an euphemism for sacking bro. I believe Souness was sacked?

Like to say we are different from other clubs in keeping faith with our managers, but it ain't so in the last 20 years. :(

[GeMiNiZzzzZzz]

sacking rafa is not the answer to the prob,class is permanent n form is temporary,we need to go on a run of wins during the holiday period if not we r in deep trbl.rafa shd go get van the man during the jan transfer window.

Sacking Rafa is one thing - getting another manager to change our tactics is the main solution.

We have to get a regular stike partner for Torres before he starts getting frustrated & Rafa does not play with 2 strikers which i seriously think we need to do rather than playing 2 attacking midfielders to support him.

But...we dont have the monies with the 2 yankees..Van could just come in cheap & good i believe so..

[bochapsing]

That's an euphemism for sacking bro. I believe Souness was sacked?

Like to say we are different from other clubs in keeping faith with our managers, but it ain't so in the last 20 years. :(

remember houllier was the 1st manager to be asked to leave.... so souness wasn't sacked... think he got problem with his health then resigned?!

[see see only]

I guess it is the culture of Liverpool and that why me a fan of them :D

Humble, kind-hearted nature, hardworking, etc


:eek: but a bit old fashion liao ... & not aggressive enough comparing to Chelsea & Man City

Anyway still me a die-hard fan of liverpool :D hehe just dont bet on them or against them tat all:(

[A Simple Man]

can forget about playing in Europe next season,the way they are playing right now. better think about how to re-group or re-organise for next season.

[rahl]

Anyway still me a die-hard fan of liverpool :D hehe just dont bet on them or against them tat all:(

Damn where have you been all this while LOL

remember houllier was the 1st manager to be asked to leave.... so souness wasn't sacked... think he got problem with his health then resigned?!

God, you mean he would still have been allowed to continue and destroy Pool further???

[Ninja_Assassin]

I personally feel it is a blessing in disguise if Liverpool dun make it to the CL next season. Without the CL money coming in...... the Yankees' financial situation will be jialat and maybe they'll be forced to let go of LFC :D

[owen10]

saw this news online ... not exactly a Liverpool discussion but more for yr reading pleasure. it's really a sad case ... for all you know, this Liverpool fan may well be a SB bro here. Strange fact was that he hung himself after Pool defeated MU in Oct n not during the recent run of wretched form.

may this fellow Pool bro rest in peace. :(

====

Dec 22, 2009
Gambling addict hangs himself
By Khushwant Singh

IN THE suicide note to his wife, father and close friends, Mr Teo Kok Hun, 33, confessed his addiction to football gambling.

The 33-year-old driver, also known as Zhang Guohan, admitted that this was the main reason why he was always short of money.

His favourite football team was Liverpool and he was wearing the club's red jersey when he hanged himself in the bathroom of his four-room flat in Tampines on Oct 26.

His 30-year-old wife, a travel agent, found his body at 7.30pm, when she returned home from work.

State Coroner Victor Yeo, on Tuesday, returned a verdict of suicide.

Strangely, Mr Teo's death came a day after Liverpool defeated archenemy Manchester United, after a series of four successful defeats to other teams.

[see see only]

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Strangely, Mr Teo's death came a day after Liverpool defeated archenemy Manchester United, after a series of four successful defeats to other teams.

A very very sad story ......

Must have lost a lot, on the match itself for a super liverpool fan that turn into an "Anti-liverpool" :o betting against his fav team but lost $$$$$$$ somemore vs Man U (i guessed only)

It just so sad :(

Tat why, I rather skip liverpool match when i felt that they will lose :D

[see see only]

Damn where have you been all this while LOL



:eek: you mean you dont know .....?

Hiding lah - lost so money betting on liverpool starting from the Arsenal match until now .................................................. .................................................. ................................................:o :o

Last match la gi worse, level half - Jalan jalan jalan jalan jalan jalan ............ until "Black Eye Jack" somemore kana goal by Pmouth :mad:

[Xgenre]

Must have lost a lot, on the match itself for a super liverpool fan that turn into an "Anti-liverpool" :o betting against his fav team but lost $$$$$$$ somemore vs Man U (i guessed only)

It just so sad :(

Tat why, I rather skip liverpool match when i felt that they will lose :D

WE can't assume his death got anything to do with the result of the Liverpool-Man U match. Just because he died wearing our jersey doesn't mean anything. Something non-football related could have happened that drove him to his tragic end.

Let's just leave him in peace. He'll never walk alone.

[see see only]

WE can't assume his death got anything to do with the result of the Liverpool-Man U match. Just because he died wearing our jersey doesn't mean anything. Something non-football related could have happened that drove him to his tragic end.

Let's just leave him in peace. He'll never walk alone.


V True bro - me totally no offence to Mr. T.., a real die-hard liverpool fan....:)

[bochapsing]

wat's happening to us tis season....!!!???

we seem to be in the headlines for all the wrong reasons...!!!

and we're having the worst luck tat one can ever imagine...!!!

:(:(:(

~YNWA

[Lone_Wolf]

wat's happening to us tis season....!!!???

we seem to be in the headlines for all the wrong reasons...!!!

and we're having the worst luck tat one can ever imagine...!!!

:(:(:(

~YNWA

I tink a jinx been placed onto the team..... it's called Lucas Leiva :mad:

[bochapsing]

I tink a jinx been placed onto the team..... it's called Lucas Leiva :mad:

get off the back of this young man...!!!!

had him thrown the beach ball onto the pitch??
or had he caused all the injuries our players had suffered??
was he expected to suddenly turn into superman when all other players were off form??
or was he the referee who had done us all the injustice???

:confused::confused::confused:

[Hurricane88]

wat's happening to us tis season....!!!???

we seem to be in the headlines for all the wrong reasons...!!!

and we're having the worst luck tat one can ever imagine...!!!



~YNWA

Liverpool is going thru a bad patch...poor luck and that's why you see the alot goals concede in the time added on...the luck will change after CNY...:)

[joew2005]

i don't believe tat 1 player k single handed ruin a club's form.
it has got 2 be a team effort.
likewise when the team is down,the whole team(including the manager,back rm staff,owners n etc) has 2 be responsible.
i hope tis team doesn't treat Rafa the way manc treated mark.

[Regaine]

Liverpool is going thru a bad patch...poor luck and that's why you see the alot goals concede in the time added on...the luck will change after CNY...:)

By then it will be too late. We got to start winning the remaining matches now.We can't afford to drop any more points. Hopefully after Rafa had a good talk with some key players , things will turn around . If not we may not even be able to smell 4th spot this season.

[kopties]

get off the back of this young man...!!!!

had him thrown the beach ball onto the pitch??
or had he caused all the injuries our players had suffered??
was he expected to suddenly turn into superman when all other players were off form??
or was he the referee who had done us all the injustice???

:confused::confused::confused:


The answer to your above qns = NO!
But the question should be "What has he done to ALWAYS be in the 1st team anyway!":confused:

[Ninja_Assassin]

The answer to your above qns = NO!
But the question should be "What has he done to ALWAYS be in the 1st team anyway!":confused:

I kinda agree. After analysing last season's matches, it seems that Liverpool often have poor results whenever Lucas was playing. I haven't got time to analyse this season matches yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if the outcome is the same. A jinx is a jinx. Not that Lucas is no good player but most likely his bazhi clashes with that of Liverpool.

[GeMiNiZzzzZzz]

I kinda agree....

If we gotta depend on 8 characters or jinx to support our club - then many ppl are going to be glory hunter already.
I assume you are not a REDs fan are you..if it is..then its truely a pity :rolleyes:

[pirambi]

last year by this time, all liverfools have been taking abt liverpool snatching their 19th epl title, but now :p :D....really pity:eek:

[rahl]

get off the back of this young man...!!!!




Take it easy bro, some pple will always look for scapegoats to blame. It's times like this which differentiates the fans. Let's just keep supporting the team and players and find a way out of the dark. ;)

[rahl]

If we gotta depend on 8 characters or jinx to support our club - then many ppl are going to be glory hunter already.
I assume you are not a REDs fan are you..if it is..then its truely a pity :rolleyes:

There are many glory hunters and every club has them. If we expand our merchandising worldwide to rack up our miserable income, there is going sure to be more.

[GeMiNiZzzzZzz]

There are many glory hunters and every club has them. If we expand our merchandising worldwide to rack up our miserable income, there is going sure to be more.

Then we might have more supporters in here :D

...but how long...

Anyway - a top 4 finish is a heavy task this season for us..the last time we were not in the top 4..we managed to win the CL & push tofees out..this season we just gonna keep winning & just forget about the Europa ..my opinion anyway because we do not have the depth to put full squad in both competition...:o

Hope the news about the Saudi prince who is attending tonight's game against wolves make some movements after the match.;)

[Cum_Luver]

not a very good performance.
the players are lacking confident,hopefully after this win,they will pick-up and grow from strength to strength.
but a win is still a win and 3 pts in the bag.

[rahl]

Then we might have more supporters in here :D

...but how long...

Hope the news about the Saudi prince who is attending tonight's game against wolves make some movements after the match.;)

We'll have less supporters here at the end of the season - not that it's necessarily a bad thing ;)

I won't count my chickens - too many false dawns already...sigh.

not a very good performance.
the players are lacking confident,hopefully after this win,they will pick-up and grow from strength to strength.
but a win is still a win and 3 pts in the bag.

It all hinged on the red card didn't it? At least it came from a good move (which involved Lucas!).

Good to see AA get a run out. Did well with some good passes in midfield but he needs to be cleverer about the tackles and closing down by opposing players.

[bochapsing]

The answer to your above qns = NO!
But the question should be "What has he done to ALWAYS be in the 1st team anyway!"


Answer to ur question: "he was always in the team becos Aquilani was injured, and now MAcherano is suspended..."

now my question is: "wat has he done to deserved to be called a jinx, a disagrace and all sort of names....?"


Then we might have more supporters in here :D

...but how long...


every teams has their share of "Glory Hunters" supporters... but i think we have plenty of die hard supporters too..

i started supporting the reds during thier hay day, seen rush, breadsley, barnes winning titles... and seen them going downhill as well, but i never given up on them, even during our darkest days under souness...

though the 1st english team i watched was man utd (Normal WHiteside? Viv Anderson?), but i ended up supporting Liverpool, simply becos of the fans, the manager, the players, the way they behave, the way they play...


and of cos "You'll Never Walk Alone"

:D:D:D

[bochapsing]

not a very good performance.
the players are lacking confident,hopefully after this win,they will pick-up and grow from strength to strength.
but a win is still a win and 3 pts in the bag.


Overall is not a great performance, but nevertehless it's an important win..
Simply too many wayward passes, mistime run...
Aquilani looked lively and dished out few nice passes..
But Stevie G & esp. Torres r worryingly off their best..

[joew2005]

during these period of bad spell,i would rather fancy tat The Reds played lousy but +3 pts in the bag.
No pt playing well but nil or only +1 pt in the bag.
Next up on 29 Dec 2009 is a big test,away @ villa park.
villa,spurs & manc r the 3 teams tat r challenging 4 the 4th UCL spot with The Reds.
they lost 3-1 @ home against villa on 24 Aug 2009.
it's important (psycologically) tat they win @ villa next tues.

[rahl]

Aquilani looked lively and dished out few nice passes..
But Stevie G & esp. Torres r worryingly off their best..

I thought the commentator made a good point yesterday - that Mascher and Lucas are not finding Stevie with their passes - they can pass sideways and to the flanks but not inside. Hopefully AA can do it better.

Am sure if Mascher is fit, then Lucas will have to make way.

Torres was disappointing though, his attitude has been poor. Rafa needs to have another talk and tell him the best way to get at the defenders is to score.

[Himerus]

have been very disappointed with the results recently.
i think Torres and Liverpool needs another striker,depending on one is not the way to go.
this coming match against Aston Villa,this is a match that we can afford to lose.
last match of 2009,hope we can end 2009 with a win and then carry-on in 2010.

[GeMiNiZzzzZzz]

have been very disappointed with the results recently.
i think Torres and Liverpool needs another striker,depending on one is not the way to go.
this coming match against Aston Villa,this is a match that we can afford to lose.
last match of 2009,hope we can end 2009 with a win and then carry-on in 2010.

I guess u mean we canNOT afford to lose ;)

Yes, as mention, we need another consistant striker to partner torres (he is getting frustrated game to game) & not Babel & Ngog who both to me is not BPL class yet. The dutch lg & english lg is 2 different lgs altogether.

....But..do we have the monies ? :o

[procodin1]

hopefully in jan transfer window.as rumored ruud van nistelrooy will be comming to liverpool.on a pay as u play contract basis,but hes 33 this yr?injury prone striker.but his goal scoring rate r juz fantastic.

[pirambi]

Its a pity that u still liverpool needs a manure to go up their arse

[GeMiNiZzzzZzz]

hopefully in jan transfer window.as rumored ruud van nistelrooy will be comming to liverpool.on a pay as u play contract basis,but hes 33 this yr?injury prone striker.but his goal scoring rate r juz fantastic.

Yup, i do agree that he is a wonderful striker but of course that will depend how rafa is going to use him because he plays exactly the same way as torres - not the goal poacher type but bring the ball from outside of the box to the penalty area.
We shouldnt even think he is former ex-manure player..who cares if we can win with him ;)

btw he was voted as the best striker of the decade by ESPN recently ahead of so many other stikers..that says it all
..But age is catching up i agree & i hope he save his last shot for Liverpool (if he ever come anyway) ..:rolleyes:

[A Simple Man]

Its a pity that u still liverpool needs a manure to go up their arse

it the same with manure,they also have an Reds in Michael Owen.
nowaday,when players reach a certain age - above 30 years old,what they need is first team play and not on the bench.
any reasonable team that offer it,these players will just grab it.
furthermore,next year is World Cup,they will need to play regularly in order to be consider for the national team.

he maybe injury prone and 33,but still consider good as his scoring skill and abilities are still there.

[GeMiNiZzzzZzz]

it the same with manure,....

Hi Mate, you must be new here?
No-one here cares what he say so may i suggest you just ignore him ;)

p/s : or you may just check out all his post in this forum ..

Cheers..:p

[A Simple Man]

Hi Mate, you must be new here?
No-one here cares what he say so may i suggest you just ignore him ;)



yes,i just joined not long ago.
thanks,then think i will put him on my ignore list.

[Cum_Luver]

the next match against Villa will be important cos Gunners just beat Villa by 3-0 and it is a good chance for us to reduce the gap.
hope that Torres will recover his form for this match.

[Lone_Wolf]

......and 33,but still consider good as his scoring skill and abilities are still there.

33 is still ok lah...... Teddy Sheringham was still banging them in regularly at 40 :D

[bochapsing]

Torres was disappointing though, his attitude has been poor. Rafa needs to have another talk and tell him the best way to get at the defenders is to score.

his body language wasn't very positive recently...head was down whenever things are not going his way... (stevie g was another guilty party...)
and defeners are starting to "bully" him again, he was whacked 2 or 3 times in the first 10 min in the wolves match..
hope he will be soon back to his best when he paid back all the tackles by scoring goals...

hopefully in jan transfer window.as rumored ruud van nistelrooy will be comming to liverpool.on a pay as u play contract basis,but hes 33 this yr?injury prone striker.but his goal scoring rate r juz fantastic.

as widely expected, we have no $$ to spend in jan AGAIN... RvN will be a good choice, believe he can still do the job and he knows inside out of epl...
Just hope tat the club can squeeze out some budget somewhere to afford his wages...

[bochapsing]

Hi Mate, you must be new here?
No-one here cares what he say so may i suggest you just ignore him ;)

p/s : or you may just check out all his post in this forum ..

Cheers..:p

tat's the difference btw a man ure supporter and a LIVERPOOL supporter...
enuf said...

cheers....

YNWA

[Xgenre]

during these period of bad spell,i would rather fancy tat The Reds played lousy but +3 pts in the bag..

You are amazing man. The match ended around 3.30am? and you can be posting here at 9am. I think most of us end woke up late on Sunday morning. Old men need more sleep to recuperate from the rigours of supporting Liverpool early in the morning. :p

A good result. 3 points. Performance can be improved, hopefully. Until the sending off, we weren't as dominant. At least Lucas is beginning to play more like Alonso... He gets opponents red-carded. ;)

[pirambi]

it the same with manure,they also have an Reds in Michael Owen.
nowaday,when players reach a certain age - above 30 years old,what they need is first team play and not on the bench.
any reasonable team that offer it,these players will just grab it.
furthermore,next year is World Cup,they will need to play regularly in order to be consider for the national team.

he maybe injury prone and 33,but still consider good as his scoring skill and abilities are still there.

Of course Owen was available even to liverpool on a free loan. But Rafa didnt take him...
Now looking for some cheap strikers. But you miss the cheater Xabi too much

[pirambi]

tat's the difference btw a man ure supporter and a LIVERPOOL supporter...
enuf said...

cheers....

YNWA

yep liverfoolians doesnt know honest tackling.

[snbd]

Hi guys, the common answer when i asked Liverpool supporters why they support and reason was "You never walk alone". But my understanding is that this is a musical song, and not originated from Liverpool. so i will like to know more as to why LFC have such strong connection to this song.

Could someone kindly explain to me? i sincerely wish to know why and many thanks in advance.

btw, Ruud Van wages demand is high.. heard that Spurs and Blackburn wanted him earlier in the summer but he refuses to take pay cut. Hopefully he values world cup more and is willing to take pay cut to Liverpool

[pirambi]

Hi guys, the common answer when i asked Liverpool supporters why they support and reason was "You never walk alone". But my understanding is that this is a musical song, and not originated from Liverpool. so i will like to know more as to why LFC have such strong connection to this song.

Could someone kindly explain to me? i sincerely wish to know why and many thanks in advance.

btw, Ruud Van wages demand is high.. heard that Spurs and Blackburn wanted him earlier in the summer but he refuses to take pay cut. Hopefully he values world cup more and is willing to take pay cut to Liverpool

very simple, only intellectuals can think on their own and walk alone.
and fools walk together following one by one, dont even know what their destination is.

[snbd]

er, I am honestly trying to understand why this song is so strongly connected. Im not trying to start a war of words. Hope things dun get out of hand.

Peace.

[rahl]

er, I am honestly trying to understand why this song is so strongly connected. Im not trying to start a war of words. Hope things dun get out of hand.

Peace.

Bro, just ignore the fool, he IS in here for a war of words (which no one can be bothered with).

Anyway, for a start (Wiki not always right so Pool fansites might be better):
In England, the song's most successful performance was recorded in 1963 by the Liverpudlian Merseybeat group Gerry & The Pacemakers (peaking at number one in the singles chart for four consecutive weeks). It quickly became the anthem of Liverpool Football Club and is invariably sung by its supporters moments before the start of each home game.[2][3] The words "You'll Never Walk Alone" also feature in the club crest and on the Shankly Gate entrance to the stadium.

According to former player Tommy Smith, Gerry Marsden presented Liverpool manager Bill Shankly with a recording of his upcoming cover single during a pre-season coach trip in the summer of 1963. "Shanks was in awe of what he [had] heard. [...] Football writers from the local newspapers were travelling with our party and, thirsty for a story of any kind between games, filed copy back to their editors to the effect that we had adopted Gerry Marsden's forthcoming single as the club song."[4]

Marsden himself told BBC Radio how, in the 1960s, the deejay at Anfield would play the top-ten commercial records in ascending order, with the number one single transmitted last, shortly before kickoff. Supporters standing on the Spion Kop terrace would sing along, but once "You'll Never Walk Alone" dropped out of the top-ten, says Marsden, they continued to sing it.[5][6] The song was later adopted by the Scottish teams Hibernian and Celtic,[3] Dutch teams Feyenoord and FC Twente, the Belgium team Club Brugge,[7] and Japan's F.C. Tokyo.[8]

You'll Never Walk Alone (song) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27ll_Never_Walk_Alone_%28song%29)

[pirambi]

Bro, just ignore the fool, he IS in here for a war of words (which no one can be bothered with).
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do you want to ignore urself

[rahl]

No one to applaud our victory at Villa? Heheh.

Reina kept us in the game but we battled hard all match. Finally showed some character.

Torres proved me wrong (and I'm happy to be proven wrong). No other striker at the club could have struck the ball past Friedel in the dying minutes. ;)

Revenge mission No. 2: Spurs. ;)

[Cum_Luver]

another 3 pts.
end 2009 with a win.
a win is still a win and whether we played good or bad does not matter much. of cos all of us will like to see our team plays good and entertaining soccer but if the end result is no good,then it is no use.

hopefully,we can continue with our winning in 2010.
oh yes,Spurs will be next...

[bochapsing]

No one to applaud our victory at Villa? Heheh.

Reina kept us in the game but we battled hard all match. Finally showed some character.

Torres proved me wrong (and I'm happy to be proven wrong). No other striker at the club could have struck the ball past Friedel in the dying minutes.

Revenge mission No. 2: Spurs.

haven't watched the game.. going home to catch the repeat telecast tonite..

another 6-pointer agst spur coming up... another must-win game..

at least we end the year with a win and something positive...

hope our bad luck ends with the year...

:D:D:D

[beck7777]

I managed to watch the game from 60min onwards(cant wake up :p)

From what I saw, we didnt play well..
Passing was off, lacking of ideas and in fact might have lost the game by at least 2 goals...

I can say we are damn lucky the ball bounced to Torres in injury time for him to score...

BUT results like this show luck is going our way, winning tough and tricky games without playing at our best...

It will also be a huge confidence boost for us, knowing that we can really go on an unbeaten streak if we improve further...

Anyway, it was a top class finish from Torres... :D

[hawksbay]

No one to applaud our victory at Villa? Heheh.

Reina kept us in the game but we battled hard all match. Finally showed some character.

Torres proved me wrong (and I'm happy to be proven wrong). No other striker at the club could have struck the ball past Friedel in the dying minutes. ;)

Revenge mission No. 2: Spurs. ;)

a really big win,well ppl might say we were lucky but i guess we made our own luck,there were some games where we were all over the other team but we ended drawing or losing those games.no one said we were unlucky,i think we deserved the 3 points n it was massive 3 pts 4 us.yes torres the best striker on the planet.

[rahl]

I managed to watch the game from 60min onwards(cant wake up :p)

From what I saw, we didnt play well..
Passing was off, lacking of ideas and in fact might have lost the game by at least 2 goals...



Bro, from that point on, Villa had some chances and were beginning to dominate.

But you saw the closeups? It was a bloody blizzard out there!

Given that this was against the team with the best defence in the league and had beaten the top two (and we also lacking our midfield enforcer), it was a creditable performance from us. ;)

a really big win,well ppl might say we were lucky but i guess we made our own luck,there were some games where we were all over the other team but we ended drawing or losing those games.no one said we were unlucky,i think we deserved the 3 points n it was massive 3 pts 4 us.yes torres the best striker on the planet.

Yes, a massive game and we have another one against Spurs - lost to them first day of the season and we really need to win to put that right!

[pirambi]

Bro, from that point on, Villa had some chances and were beginning to dominate.

But you saw the closeups? It was a bloody blizzard out there!

Given that this was against the team with the best defence in the league and had beaten the top two (and we also lacking our midfield enforcer), it was a creditable performance from us. ;)



Yes, a massive game and we have another one against Spurs - lost to them first day of the season and we really need to win to put that right!
comapring the game which manu played yesterday with the pudlians, it was fair enough to say that the fools dont deserve a place even in the bpl, let alone the champions league. Real shame on the league the way they are playing. and some ppl boasting around :o

[GeMiNiZzzzZzz]

Yes, a massive game and we have another one against Spurs - lost to them first day of the season and we really need to win to put that right!

We need to get past Reading 1st .
I see that as our real chance of a trophy as the i see the Teams in the Europa more challenging here.

..someone comparing scoreline / performance ..something like Brazil Vs Singapore with Italy Vs Germany...if you all get what i mean :D

[bochapsing]

I can say we are damn lucky the ball bounced to Torres in injury time for him to score...

BUT results like this show luck is going our way, winning tough and tricky games without playing at our best...


a really big win,well ppl might say we were lucky .

it's about time for us to enjoy some lucky break....

i won't mind some beach balls scoring goals for us either.... (sorry, simply can't get over tat beach ball goal....)

:D:D:D

[niteowl]

..someone comparing scoreline / performance ..something like Brazil Vs Singapore with Italy Vs Germany...if you all get what i mean :D

Bro GeMiNiZzzzZzz, he's having dementia. Less than 3 weeks ago, the Scums lost to Villa at their home ground 0-1. Among the Top 4 teams, only Scums got the record of not scoring against Villa. That is a record not any team can boast about:eek::rolleyes: Shameless

[pirambi]

Bro GeMiNiZzzzZzz, he's having dementia. Less than 3 weeks ago, the Scums lost to Villa at their home ground 0-1. Among the Top 4 teams, only Scums got the record of not scoring against Villa. That is a record not any team can boast about:eek::rolleyes: Shameless

ha ha ha the boaster comes again. I dont mind playing well and not scoring, rather than playing ugly and scoring, all u have been talking about the beach ball incident which happend a long time ago... shame on all of you......:o
guess u were not invited for the rafasss barbeque:confused:

[pirambi]

We need to get past Reading 1st .
I see that as our real chance of a trophy as the i see the Teams in the Europa more challenging here.

..someone comparing scoreline / performance ..something like Brazil Vs Singapore with Italy Vs Germany...if you all get what i mean :D

yep it was like a italy handball team vs. germany football team:p

[pirambi]

Liverpool has not won the premier league ever and will not win if they continue to play like this. Everyone knows the kind of football fans liverpool has got. no one can ever forget heysel disaster and they almost destructed the english game itself . only because of team like manu, chelsea, and arsenal the epl is growing, and liverfools think that their team are the best, and rafa is the best ever. :p. bunch of fools never walk alone.

[pirambi]

Liverpool has not won the premier league ever and will not win if they continue to play like this. Everyone knows the kind of football fans liverpool has got. no one can ever forget heysel disaster and they almost destructed the english game itself . only because of team like manu, chelsea, and arsenal the epl is growing, and liverfools think that their team are the best, and rafa is the best ever. :p. bunch of fools never walk alone.

Liverpool has not won the premier league ever and will not win if they continue to play like this. Everyone knows the kind of football fans liverpool has got. no one can ever forget heysel disaster and they almost destructed the english game itself . only because of team like manu, chelsea, and arsenal the epl is growing, and liverfools think that their team are the best, and rafa is the best ever. . bunch of fools never walk alone.

[hawksbay]

it's about time for us to enjoy some lucky break....

i won't mind some beach balls scoring goals for us either.... (sorry, simply can't get over tat beach ball goal....)

:D:D:D

lol lol bro i have some beach balls,u can have them if u want.:D

[bochapsing]

DAILY MIRROR

Liverpool are set to complete a loan swoop for Atletico Madrid winger Maxi Rodriguez.

DAILY EXPRESS

Andriy Voronin is set to end a miserable stay at Liverpool with a move to Russia.

THE SUN

Ruud Van Nistelrooy looks certain to join Liverpool in the next few days and his Real Madrid team-mate Rafael van der Vaart could move to Anfield on loan until the end of the season

some "good" transfer rumours....

but sad to see our club have to resort to looking at "loan signings" of fringe / unwanted players of other clubs...

:o:o:o

[rahl]

some "good" transfer rumours....

but sad to see our club have to resort to looking at "loan signings" of fringe / unwanted players of other clubs...



I'll be delighted if Voro only leaves.

We have to work harder to get the dead wood out - given our financial plight, it doesn't make sense for them to get 30k a week for training sessions!

[bochapsing]

players i hope to see their backs:
voronin
deggen (thou he's out of favour, unlikely to let him go esp GJ is injured now)
babel (dun seems to be able to fulfill his potential here, but allow to go only if we can get a good price and also a new back-up striker)

[GeMiNiZzzzZzz]

DAILY MIRROR

Liverpool are set to complete a loan swoop for Atletico Madrid winger Maxi Rodriguez.

THE SUN

Ruud Van Nistelrooy looks certain to join Liverpool in the next few days and his Real Madrid team-mate Rafael van der Vaart could move to Anfield on loan until the end of the season




I have seen Maxi played for Atletico, quite a speedy player - if the deal goes through, it will be good for liverpool as we do not really have any speedy players apart from Yossi.

I have mentioned before, it will be GREAT for Ruud to come here to partner Torres - i can forsee the 2 of them working very well ;)

As for Van de Vaart, it would be difficult to command a regular place for him in the Liverpool Midfield position, which will jeopardise his World cup dreams for the dutch team - however he can easily fit into the 1st eleven in any other squad.

[joew2005]

DAILY MIRROR

Liverpool are set to complete a loan swoop for Atletico Madrid winger Maxi Rodriguez.

DAILY EXPRESS

Andriy Voronin is set to end a miserable stay at Liverpool with a move to Russia.

THE SUN

Ruud Van Nistelrooy looks certain to join Liverpool in the next few days and his Real Madrid team-mate Rafael van der Vaart could move to Anfield on loan until the end of the season

some "good" transfer rumours....

but sad to see our club have to resort to looking at "loan signings" of fringe / unwanted players of other clubs...

:o:o:o

I would luv 2 see Maxi Rodriguez come 2 Liverpool,even on a 6 month loan.
I don't see Andriy Voronin ending a miserable stay @ Liverpool.Instead it's The Reds tat r ending their nitemare with Voronin.He isn't contibuting anything 2 the team. Andrea Dossena k also leave tis club.
I would think tat it's 2 soon 2 let Ryan Babel leave tis club.
Rafa Benitez gets cracking on Liverpool transfer business - Transfers - ESPN Soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=719698&sec=transfers&cc=4716)

Ruud Van Nistelrooy & Rafael van der Vaart looks 2 be a good loan deals 4 The Reds.
Premier League - Paper Round: Real Madrid want Wayne Rooney - Yahoo! Eurosport UK (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/02012010/58/premier-league-paper-round-real-madrid-want-wayne-rooney.html)

no choice if they hv 2 resort 2 loan deals la.
wat do u expect the yankees 2 give out .....

[bochapsing]

players i hope to see their backs:
voronin deggen babel

how can i forget dossena!!!!

I would luv 2 see Maxi Rodriguez come 2 Liverpool,even on a 6 month loan.....

yes, he'ld be a good signing... a 6-mth loan with possibility for signing on free in the summer.. remember he was 1 of the best Arg players in the last world cup.. popping up with some nice goals too..

Just watched match agst Reading..
FT: 1-1, Gerrard's equalize with an intelligent dummy by Kuyt..

Another poor match..
Darby had a nitemare..
Insua had a tough match too..
Torres is still out of sort, and a bit "sulk-ing"... hope to see the usual Torres who repaid those physical tackles with goals...
Gerrard had a poor game too, beside the goal...
:(:(:(

[joew2005]

i realli hope 2 see Maxi Rodriguez,Ruud Van Nistelrooy & Rafael van der Vaart come 2 Anfield, even 4 a short loan spell.
their arrival would give a different option 2 Rafa.
perhaps with regular playtime 2 the players(esp Van Nistelrooy & Van der Vaart),it's also a good opportunity 4 them 2 stack claim 4 a place in their national team.

[rahl]

Just watched match agst Reading..
FT: 1-1, Gerrard's equalize with an intelligent dummy by Kuyt..

Another poor match..


Yup, all credit to Reading for pressing, but it seems if the opposition puts us under pressure and is organised, we can't find a way through. That's not good enough for a top 4 side.

I did see more of Torres today (how far the injury is slowing him is hard to say). But I was disappointed how little he got the ball most of the match. :(

[diandian]

yea... haiz.. nowadays watch pool match quite depressing....

think top 4 finish is really difficult given our current form n morale...

[doppelherz]

samples of our new kits for next season have been leaked.
our Standard Chartered sponsor logo hasn't been decided yet as the company wanna stick to their corporate colors on the kit, but adidas feels it will not look nice.

Home
http://www.railway-cat.co.uk/misc/LFC10H2.jpg

Away
http://www.railway-cat.co.uk/misc/LFC10A2.jpg

Euro 3rd Kit
http://www.railway-cat.co.uk/misc/LFC10T2.jpg

[eeemen]

Bros, something to share, cheers .................YNWA


Rafa’s ridiculed reign at the reds – Opinion | Liverpool FC | Anfield Online (http://www.anfield-online.co.uk/opinion/2010/rafas-ridiculed-reign-at-the-reds/?)



What's Rafa ever done for Liverpool? – Telegraph Blogs (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rorysmith/100004667/whats-rafa-ever-done-for-liverpool/?)

[bochapsing]

Bros, something to share, cheers .................YNWA


Rafa’s ridiculed reign at the reds – Opinion | Liverpool FC | Anfield Online (http://www.anfield-online.co.uk/opinion/2010/rafas-ridiculed-reign-at-the-reds/?)


good article...

thanks for sharing, bro...

YNWA~~

[papamia]

let's hope we can get the players we want asap...MAXI.

hope MATA can come too

[niteowl]

Maxi Rodriguez will come to Anfield after he was signed for £1.5 million ($3.4 million) from Atletico Madrid.:p

[asspanker]

Maxi Rodriguez will come to Anfield after he was signed for £1.5 million ($3.4 million) from Atletico Madrid.:p

i hope rafa has made a good move in reflecting that the club really is down to the pits in the budget room..

come on REDS!! :)

[owen10]

hey bros

Pool vs Spurs - POSTPONED due to bad weather

Five Premier League games called off - Barclays Premier League - ESPN Soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=722250&sec=england&cc=4716)

Have been looking fwd to this clash. Too bad lah.

[Roman city]

Benitez admits failure could lead to Torres sale - ESPNsoccernet

Rafael Benitez has admitted Liverpool could consider an offer for Fernando Torres if they fail to qualify for next season's Champions League.

Torres could be sold if Liverpool fail to reach the Champions League

Liverpool's financial issues have been well documented and it has been suggested that Benitez will only be given a small percentage of the funds raised from selling his fringe players this month.

Nonetheless, Benitez had previously been adamant that Torres would not be sold under any circumstances, saying earlier in the season that he was "not for sale at any price" and that he would leave the club if forced to sell his star striker.

However, with Liverpool's hopes of finishing in the top four still in some doubt, the Spaniard has admitted that - should they fail to reach their target - they would have to consider allowing Torres to leave if Manchester City came in with a £100 million offer.

When initially asked about the situation, Benitez said: "At the moment we have to do the best for the club - and the best for the club is trying to improve the squad."

Pressed further, though, he added: "We would have conversations if we had to decide about this. Finishing in the top four is the key to keeping everyone together."

[rahl]

Better news - in fact best news for a long while: Voronin has left Anfield for 2m pounds ;)

[see see only]

Benitez admits failure could lead to Torres sale - ESPNsoccernet




:eek: sound like he is throwing in the white towel ........... really hope not :eek:

Hope it is just a smoke screen ... to confuse other teams si bo :rolleyes:

[rahl]

It's the beginning of the end surely ;)

Liverpool's Tom Hicks Jnr falls on his sword after email tirade - Barclays Premier League - ESPN Soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=723689&sec=england&cc=4716)

[beck7777]

sound like he is throwing in the white towel ........... really hope not :eek:

Hope it is just a smoke screen ... to confuse other teams si bo


Rafa is smart!

He knows he still have the support of most supporters, if not all as compare to the owners, who have none..

The selling of Torres will surely anger the fans, thus forcing the owners to improve on the money/transfer kitty issue...

So by quoting that he may sell Torres, he actually heap more pressure on the Yankee shits...

It's the beginning of the end surely ;)

Liverpool's Tom Hicks Jnr falls on his sword after email tirade - Barclays Premier League - ESPN Soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=723689&sec=england&cc=4716)

The best "sale" of the season for us so far, much better than Voronin! :D

Hope it is the begining of the end for the Yankees era at Anfield... :rolleyes:

[sex crusader]

How about Lucas? Why is he still around?:(

[ProfessorOokami]

How about Lucas? Why is he still around?:(

He won't sell his son, will he?:(

[Snow-Wolf]

For reasons better known to himself, Rafa seems to fancy Lucas to do the job in central midfield. I really disagree with that as in my humble view, Lucas is well back in the pecking order for the two central midfield slots. I would say he is behind Gerrard, Mascherano and even Aquilani. But there you go, he's the manager and he can do as he well pleases.

BTW, I also disagree with him playing Kuyt and Babel out of position on the wings, especially when they are essentially centre forwards. The other issue I have with Rafa is that he only uses Benayoun sparingly, when he is arguably the most creative player we have this season!!!

Its really fraustrating sometimes to see the team he puts out for games....in my humble view, Rafa is one of those managers who has yet to come to terms with who his best eleven is!!! I hope he gets it right, otherwise, we can kiss a spot in the top four goodbye....in any event, now that we're out of the champions league, i hope we have a really good FA Cup run by winning it, along with finishing in the top four in the league!!! That, in my humble view, would turn this disastourous season around somewhat and build confidence for next season for a renewed push to win the league!

[sex crusader]

He won't sell his son, will he?:(

What a 'son of a cunt' he has!:D

[Xgenre]

Are you guys watching this morning's match against Reading? 3.30am, Ch 24.

These are troubling times for Liverpool. Owners are vulgar shit-heads. Manager doesn't seem to play his best 11 at times (why is benyanoun on the bench?) Players don't seem too interested to fight for the ball (weird, given that this is a world cup year.) Fans frustrated at how the club is run and the team is managed. Stupid cable TV companies fighting to see who can make football fans pay more to watch football.

Despite all these frustrations, I think i will be watching the match, if I can wake up. Will you guys watch? I do know of a few friends who stopped watching liverpool games. 'Gek Sim' to see how our beloved team is struggling.

[rahl]

Of cos I'm watching ;)

Btw has anyone taken up the Singtel offer?

[rahl]

Oops double post.

On the bright side, Maxi is coming. I think a genuine winger will do wonders for us and give more space to Stevie and Nando.

[bochapsing]

Are you guys watching this morning's match against Reading? 3.30am, Ch 24.

Despite all these frustrations, I think i will be watching the match, if I can wake up. Will you guys watch? I do know of a few friends who stopped watching liverpool games. 'Gek Sim' to see how our beloved team is struggling.

of cos...

will never abandon my team....

~~YNWA

[rahl]

And what did we stay up for bros?

Nothing less than a humiliation by Reading...we were well beaten.

Dark clouds are back again.

[see see only]

Are you guys watching this morning's match against Reading? 3.30am, Ch 24.

These are troubling times for Liverpool. Owners are vulgar shit-heads. Manager doesn't seem to play his best 11 at times (why is benyanoun on the bench?) Players don't seem too interested to fight for the ball (weird, given that this is a world cup year.) Fans frustrated at how the club is run and the team is managed. Stupid cable TV companies fighting to see who can make football fans pay more to watch football.

Despite all these frustrations, I think i will be watching the match, if I can wake up. Will you guys watch? I do know of a few friends who stopped watching liverpool games. 'Gek Sim' to see how our beloved team is struggling.

Hope u did not woke up .:eek:........... OMG :mad: After watched the game, me sincerely wish i did not woke up :o

[Xgenre]

of cos... will never abandon my team....~~YNWA

Same here. I will never abandon my team. But still damn disappointing display this morning... My team abandon me perhaps? Sigh...


Hope u did not woke up .:eek:........... OMG :mad: After watched the game, me sincerely wish i did not woke up :o

I woke up and watched from the 60th min onwards. Sigh. I think we almost lost 4-1. The free header in the penalty box and the surging run from their player from their own half could have cost us. Can't imagine we let a player run from his own half and dribble past 3-4 of our players. He even got Caverleri to commit himself first before missing the target by what... 10 cm? It would have been a very beautiful goal.

We really need another good striker. Ngog is everywhere. No one to finish off our limited chances and no one to pressure the defenders into making mistakes. Benayanoun's tackle in the 90th min really deflated the team.

Didn't finish watching the match though. I had arranged to meet a local syt fl at 6.30am. Didn't anticipate extra time. At least I'm glad I got a happy ending this morning.

[pirambi]

hmm Liverpool follows ManU in FA cup.... the season has gone from bad to worse. no hopes of any silverware this season.... and one more bad news.
Rudd Van is in talks with Stoke City... May be he considers stoke a better option than pool.

[owen10]

I stayed up to watch the match this morning.

Ok few seconds left in inj time ... was quite happy we were abt to snatch a lucky win fr Reading ... till that ill-fated silly penalty cost us dear. abit suay cos Yossi juz stuck out his foot n caught d Reading player.

but i guess many fellow Pool fans will agree that Reading played very well n do not deserve to lose the match. we got a lucky goal fr SG's deflected shot. other than that we didnt threaten as much as how Reading exploited our defence time n again. our defence seemed to be back to the old self which we were horrendous at times. Reading could have buried us in normal time if they took their chances. I think we cant give weak excuses such as we lost cos SG n Torres were injured. We have more than enough depth n quality to beat Reading but not the heart.

as a Pool fan i do not like to blast d team i support but this morning i think i ought to agree with the booing home fans. :(

[Frankiestine]

just don't understand what is wrong with the current team, it is basically the same team as last season but they are really making a mockery of the Liverpool FC name..

[bochapsing]

wat a disappointing performance...!!!

outplayed by a championship struggler (with no disrespect to reading, they played well, look nothing like a team struggling in championship) at ANFIELD...!!!

could not find any excuse for the poor performance...
no passion, no desire to win, no determination, no commitment, no confidence... players' heart are simply not there...
wat's going wrong?!
-has rafa lose the players' support n respect??
-are the players affecting by the off the pitch problems??

the players seriously need a big kick on their backside... hope rafa drops some underperformer next game... thou it may backfire, considering our paper thin squad... but i rather see young players losing after putting in their best than the regular losing without a fight... btw, i guess we've seen the last action of Babel in a Liverpool jersey...

i still blame the owners for all these problems.. since day 1 they taken over, we've been hearing only bad news (selling naming right of stadium), lies (klinsmann), empty promises (new stadium), scandals (tom hick jr) etc etc... the only contribution by them is the purchase of torres...
:(:(:(

[bochapsing]

just don't understand what is wrong with the current team, it is basically the same team as last season but they are really making a mockery of the Liverpool FC name..

exactly...

it's almost the same team, barring alonso n aberloa... this same team of players can't turn bad overnight...

guess the problem lies more in the players' heart / mind...

[sex crusader]

aberloa...long time no hear this name. He is out for the season right? I don't remember Rafa sold him.Why is skyrtel not playing? I think he plays better than the danes? can't really remember his name?Why is Lucas still running around like headless chicken?'In Rafa we trust'...i think it's time the Kops think twice about this!:p

[Snow-Wolf]

Bro, Arbeloa was sold to Real Madrid last season.

I agree with you, the manager's role needs to be scrutinized by the fans more closely as our season sinks to newer depths week by week....! Actually, I didn't think it was possible to lose to Reading at home, but there you go....:confused::(

[canthaveenuf]

So sad, another loss at Anfield and out of FA Cup.

Hopefully with this distraction gone, the team can really really focus on getting the 4th place in BPL and win the Europa League.

Hope our new addition Maxi will bring more quality to the team.

Cheers

[canthaveenuf]

Btw has anyone taken up the Singtel offer?

I'm considering. Do you think Singtel will offer a better deal come June during the PC show? Right now, the only thing special is the Football frenzy deal.

Cheers

[Alkano]

Rafa time is up...???!!?.

[Cum_Luver]

another very disappointing performance.
hope that it will not get any worse.

[Frankiestine]

aberloa...long time no hear this name. He is out for the season right? I don't remember Rafa sold him.

Bro he has been sold to Real Madrid along with Alonso...

[rahl]

OMFG
Liverpool striker Fernando Torres sidelined for six weeks - Barclays Premier League - ESPN Soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=725273&sec=england&cc=4716)

At least it's happened now - Rafa, the Yanks, get your asses working and sign some decent replacements NOWWW!!


Fernando Torres sidelined for six weeks

By Soccernet staff

January 14, 2010

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Liverpool's hopes of salvaging a fourth-place finish from what has become a truly dismal season have been undermined by the news that striker Fernando Torres will be sidelined for six weeks, while captain Steven Gerrard is out for a fortnight and midfielder Yossi Benayoun misses up to four weeks.

Fernando Torres walks off past a concerned Rafael Benitez

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Fernando Torres walks off past a concerned Rafael Benitez

• Carragher sorry for Reading loss
• Paper Round: Rafa is responsible
• Report: Liverpool 1-2 Reading
• Harris: Rafa must go

Liverpool's season slumped to new depths on Wednesday night when the club were eliminated by Reading in the third round of the FA Cup and the game at Anfield came at some cost to manager Rafael Benitez as he seeks to fulfil his "guarantee" that the club will finish in the top four this season.

Torres was substituted in the first half at Anfield and scans have revealed that the striker will require knee surgery to repair torn cartilage. The Spaniard, who has scored 12 goals in 15 Premier League appearances this season, will definitely miss, amongst other fixtures, the upcoming games against local rivals Everton, on February 6, and Arsenal four days later.

He is also likely to miss out when Liverpool get their Europa League campaign underway with a two-legged fixture against Unirea Urziceni on February 18 and 25.

To compound Benitez's misery, he will also be without Gerrard, who was substituted at half-time against Reading, and fellow midfielder Benayoun for a period of time.

"Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres both underwent scans earlier today after coming off in the FA Cup tie against Reading," read a club statement.

"Steven has a hamstring strain and will be out for a fortnight, while Fernando has torn a cartilage in his right knee. The injury will require surgery and he is expected to be sidelined for six weeks.

"Yossi Benayoun also suffered a fractured rib in the game and will be unavailable for between three and four weeks."

[Xgenre]

aberloa...long time no hear this name. He is out for the season right? I don't remember Rafa sold him.Why is skyrtel not playing? I think he plays better than the danes? can't really remember his name?Why is Lucas still running around like headless chicken?'In Rafa we trust'...i think it's time the Kops think twice about this!:p

Arbeloa was sold last season when Real Madrid wanted to buy him. Arbeloa came through the ranks from Real Madrid's youth team. As he had only 1 year left on his contract, it was perhaps best we sell him and get some money to buy new players. Skrtel did play last night, as with Daniel Agger. Lucas is supposed to be running around and bossing the midfield. He's supposed to be the defensive midfielder cum playmaker. Unfortunately, he doesn't tackle as well as Alonso. He also don't pass the ball as well as Alonso. But then again, no one else in our team can pass the ball like Alonso.

Looking at how Man City is flourishing after sacking Hughes, I think Rafa's job is under increasing strain. If Mancini isn't doing so well at Man City, maybe there is lesser reason to sack Rafa now.

[bochapsing]

another very disappointing performance.
hope that it will not get any worse.

thot it can't get worse.... but it does...

now torres (6 weeks), gerrard (2 weeks), benayoun (4 weeks) injured in the defeat by reading... along with johnson, riera... lucky marcherano is back from suspension...

next match i think rafa will play aurelio at LM, Aquilani in Gerrard place with Marcherano and lucas as 2 CM and Ngog upfront... personally i would like to see pacheco play some part too...he can't be worse than babel...

[rahl]

thot it can't get worse.... but it does...

next match i think rafa will play aurelio at LM, Aquilani in Gerrard place with Marcherano and lucas as 2 CM and Ngog upfront... personally i would like to see pacheco play some part too...he can't be worse than babel...

Problem is, we will get overrun in midfield and have no height in defence. Maybe Plessis in for Lucas?

[joew2005]

it's so easy 2 call 4 rafa's head when things r bad,esp in current situation.
but would tat help bring back those glory days by simply removing rafa .....
thing started fr somewhere ... sometime ago ... not w/o any reason.
every1(almost every1) was behind rafa when he lead the team 2 a 2nd place finish last season.

[(o)(o) Tuner]

Liverpool has been a disappointment this season. Everything didn't seems to work right after the departure of Xabi Alonso. But that's all an excuse, nobody is indispensable.

Nobody wants to lose, everybody wants to win. But when you don't, you have to be a good loser. You can't blame anybody else but the players themselves. Rafa did well last season and received many warm welcome and support from fans, bosses and players. Simply becos everybody BELIEVE in him, and the BELIEVE is very important.

Look at Arsene Wenger. Why is he so successful in AFC?

[Frankiestine]

Liverpool has been a disappointment this season. Everything didn't seems to work right after the departure of Xabi Alonso. But that's all an excuse, nobody is indispensable.

I guess other then Pepe Reina who has been the only consistent player this season, the rest has actually fell short of their potential.

Hate to say this but thou Ronaldo was the key player for scums last few season but his departure did not disrupt their performance too much all because they have been consistent thou not a single player stood out this season..

[Snow-Wolf]

I do agree with bro Turner that no one player is indispensible in a team of eleven footballers. However, in the case of Alonso, we lost a player who could pull the strings from midfield and spray passes to set up attacks or counter attacks from almost anywhere on the pitch.

When he left, Rafa decided to play Lucas in there and then we went into a system of having two holding midfielders with Mascherano as well, but neither player is able to create from midfield. Mind you I don't mind Mascherano because of his tackling ability and being able to break up or spoil the oppsing team form playing. However, Lucas is not the same. He is but a headless chicken running all over the park and adding little to our overall team play.

That being the case, why oh why doesn't Rafa play Gerrard back in central midfield and drop Lucas to the bench [Gerrerd is in view the only other player we've got right now who can do this job]. Instead, he sticks Gerrard up front with Torres but what good is Gerrard up there if there isn't anyone behind to create and pass the ball to him and Torres so that they can have a goal scoring opportunity??? In short, let Gerrard be the playmaker and pull the strings from deep in midfield!!! :mad:

Also, Alonso left us because Rafa was trying to sign Barry to replace him. Having watched quite a number of Man City matches this season, how Rafa thought that Barry is a more complete and better player than Alonso is an absolute amazement to me!!!! :confused:

All I can say is that it seems to me that Rafa has lost the plot this season. A decent team of footballers do not turn into a team of bad footballers just after one season. In as much as one player doesn't make a football club, especially our beloved Liverpool, one manager also doesn't make a football club either. I believe that the current woes on the pitch can be averted if Rafa just plays his best eleven players and in thier proper positions and forget about his rotation policy. He would do well also not to show blind favourtism to players like Lucas and Kuyt, who in my view are not good enough to play in midfield and right wing respectively.

No disrespect to Kuyt, whom I actually do like beacuse he is hardworking. However, he is not effective on the right. Let him play upfront with Torres (which is his natural position anyway) to knock about the opposite defenders and use his industry to harrass their backline. Actually, come to think of it, when a couple of seasons ago Gerrard was tasked with the right wing job, he actually scored 21 goals, not to mention countless other assists!!! Kuyt is not this type of a creative player like Gerrard. He is a poacher moulded in the ways of the old style centre forward calculated at creating havoc and mayhem for the opposing backline and force mistakes. In any event, I certainly think having Kuyt upfront is better than playing Ngog there.

Btw, I havn't forgotten about the miraculous 3-3 comeback win in Istanbul the first season Rafa came in. Nonetheless, I believe the time has come for the club and Rafa to go their separate ways. Perhaps bringing in a new manager can freshen up the team so that the players can build up the necessary confidence to achieve better results on the pitch. I for one, do not believe that Rafa is the only manager in the world capable of managing Liverpool Football Club!!!! :(

[bochapsing]

Nobody wants to lose, everybody wants to win. But when you don't, you have to be a good loser. You can't blame anybody else but the players themselves. Rafa did well last season and received many warm welcome and support from fans, bosses and players. Simply becos everybody BELIEVE in him, and the BELIEVE is very important.

Look at Arsene Wenger. Why is he so successful in AFC?

i believe in continuity in management.. keep changing management may bring short term success, but u need a stable management team to build up the academy, scout team etc.. and to be successful in long run..

look at real madrid, manager comes and goes... so even with the unlimited budget, they have not been as successful in recent years.. their most successful period is them sticking with del bosquet as manager for the few years (thou oso with the help of unlimited budget)...

but even wenger has not been very succeesul in recent years, he has been giving reasons like "we spend little money... we are having a young team..." but the fact is he had won almost nothing in recent years.. EPL nowadays are not as easy as few years ago liao...

btw guus hiddink is reported off the payroll of abramovic, tat mean he's available... but i dun think he'll be interested in managing a team own by the 2 jokers..I guess other then Pepe Reina who has been the only consistent player this season, the rest has actually fell short of their potential.

Hate to say this but thou Ronaldo was the key player for scums last few season but his departure did not disrupt their performance too much all because they have been consistent thou not a single player stood out this season..

ya man... reina is the only player who is keeping up his good form from last season...

without ronaldo, man utd is missing a "match winner"... tat's y they r losing or drawing many games comparing to last season...

actually this season is the best chance to challenge for the epl title, considering the big teams lost some key players... arsenal (adebayor) man utd (ronaldo, tevez)..

but......

[owen10]

I was wondering what do bros think abt Acquilani's performance so far???

have caught him in bit parts n full performance in d 2 Reading games. so far i dun thk his performance justify the 20m price tag paid. nowhere near. as a commentator said, d Italian is havin difficulty adjusting to the fast pace n physical aspects of the English game. Often he's too slow on the ball n often robbed by opponents. he doesnt react quick enuff when pressured by opponents n often misplaced his passes.

ok to be fair, lets give him a few more games to acclimatise. if he still struggles after 10 full games, Rafa ought to seriously consider if Acqui shd be sold next season. i hope bros here pardon me for my harshness but i think as a pro, n some1 who come with a heavy price tag he must pull up his socks!

[rahl]

I was wondering what do bros think abt Acquilani's performance so far???



Frankly, I thought he did well, given he is short of match fitness.

And let's not bring up the price tag all the time. The real point is, does he add value to our midfield and attack? I would like to see a midfield with Mascher and AA and see how that works.

PS. Talk about being pressured, Yossi can lose the ball and you can also harry Alonso into a mistake or back pass (granted, the lad seems to know how to win red cards for us!).

So pls, in this difficult time, some perspective and support.

PPS. I do think Lucas has been poor in the last few games and needs a rest.

PPPS. My team for Stoke:

Reina
Carragher Agger Skrtel Aurelio
Kuyt Mascherano Plessis/Spearing Maxi
Aquilani Ngog

(Where our goals going to come from?? Time for Riera for be fit)

[bochapsing]

Also, Alonso left us because Rafa was trying to sign Barry to replace him. !

dun understand why people blame rafa for trying to sign barry which resulted in alonso leaving us...

alonso was not playing well in the season before that, wat's wrong with a manager trying to sign another player to replace the under-performed player.. and if rafa sticked to alonso and his form din improve, then he'll be criticsed for favouritism again...

Frankly, I thought he did well, given he is short of match fitness.

And let's not bring up the price tag all the time. The real point is, does he add value to our midfield and attack? I would like to see a midfield with Mascher and AA and see how that works.

PPPS. My team for Stoke:

Reina
Carragher Agger Skrtel Aurelio
Kuyt Mascherano Plessis/Spearing Maxi
Aquilani Ngog

(Where our goals going to come from?? Time for Riera for be fit)

i felt Aquilani did well in the last few game too... give him some time to adjust to the epl...

Rafa line-up:
Reina
Carrager, Skrtl, Agger, Insua
Kuyt, MAcherano, Lucas, Aurelio
Aquilani
Ngog

My preferred line-up:
Reina (hope he's fit, Cavalieri looked nervous and dun look comfortable in coming forward to claim the high balls)
Darby / Degen, CArragher, Agger, Aurelio
Macherano, Aquilani
Maxi, Pacheco (give tat boy a game), Riera (he's back in squad, but dun think is fit to start)
Kuyt
...

dun think we'll ever see babel again... so even riera is back, we're short handed in our left side too.. another option is to play insua in LB and Aurelio in LM... but i think it's time to give lucas and insua a rest...

[sex crusader]

The sight of Lucas make me sick! I often see a headless chicken running all over the field.'In Rafa we trust'....:D Skertel plays so well and i wonder why he is on the bench most of the time.Agger is just an overrated defender in my opinion.'In Rafa can we trust'...:D

[Frankiestine]

Seems like these "one of those days" matches are becoming very very common...another disappointing result..:(

[Cum_Luver]

just cannot hold on to a lead or increase it.
concede a last minute goal and another draw.
very disappointed.

Match Stats shown 0 corner kick for us and 10 corner kicks for Stoke.

[see see only]

just cannot hold on to a lead or increase it.
concede a last minute goal and another draw.
very disappointed.

Match Stats shown 0 corner kick for us and 10 corner kicks for Stoke.

:eek: When is the match stoke vs liverpool huh :rolleyes: ?

Just now me watched the live game ...... Stoke vs "Blackpool" game, "Blackpool" played like shit ...... kana left right centre from Stoke city ... it is so lucky they still manage a draw :confused:

Though "blackpool" star players never oso dont need to play like shit meh ...


:mad: KNNBCCB i think blackpool can played better

[hawksbay]

I do agree with bro Turner that no one player is indispensible in a team of eleven footballers. However, in the case of Alonso, we lost a player who could pull the strings from midfield and spray passes to set up attacks or counter attacks from almost anywhere on the pitch.

When he left, Rafa decided to play Lucas in there and then we went into a system of having two holding midfielders with Mascherano as well, but neither player is able to create from midfield. Mind you I don't mind Mascherano because of his tackling ability and being able to break up or spoil the oppsing team form playing. However, Lucas is not the same. He is but a headless chicken running all over the park and adding little to our overall team play.

That being the case, why oh why doesn't Rafa play Gerrard back in central midfield and drop Lucas to the bench [Gerrerd is in view the only other player we've got right now who can do this job]. Instead, he sticks Gerrard up front with Torres but what good is Gerrard up there if there isn't anyone behind to create and pass the ball to him and Torres so that they can have a goal scoring opportunity??? In short, let Gerrard be the playmaker and pull the strings from deep in midfield!!! :mad:

Also, Alonso left us because Rafa was trying to sign Barry to replace him. Having watched quite a number of Man City matches this season, how Rafa thought that Barry is a more complete and better player than Alonso is an absolute amazement to me!!!! :confused:

All I can say is that it seems to me that Rafa has lost the plot this season. A decent team of footballers do not turn into a team of bad footballers just after one season. In as much as one player doesn't make a football club, especially our beloved Liverpool, one manager also doesn't make a football club either. I believe that the current woes on the pitch can be averted if Rafa just plays his best eleven players and in thier proper positions and forget about his rotation policy. He would do well also not to show blind favourtism to players like Lucas and Kuyt, who in my view are not good enough to play in midfield and right wing respectively.

No disrespect to Kuyt, whom I actually do like beacuse he is hardworking. However, he is not effective on the right. Let him play upfront with Torres (which is his natural position anyway) to knock about the opposite defenders and use his industry to harrass their backline. Actually, come to think of it, when a couple of seasons ago Gerrard was tasked with the right wing job, he actually scored 21 goals, not to mention countless other assists!!! Kuyt is not this type of a creative player like Gerrard. He is a poacher moulded in the ways of the old style centre forward calculated at creating havoc and mayhem for the opposing backline and force mistakes. In any event, I certainly think having Kuyt upfront is better than playing Ngog there.

Btw, I havn't forgotten about the miraculous 3-3 comeback win in Istanbul the first season Rafa came in. Nonetheless, I believe the time has come for the club and Rafa to go their separate ways. Perhaps bringing in a new manager can freshen up the team so that the players can build up the necessary confidence to achieve better results on the pitch. I for one, do not believe that Rafa is the only manager in the world capable of managing Liverpool Football Club!!!! :(

well i think alonso s depature as been underestimated,alot of the players r deavasted that they did not win the league last season n also shocked by xabi leaving pool,this as affected the whole team,sg is the best attacking midfielder in the bpl but he can t do wat alonso can in the middle of the park,sg can t control the game like xabi does n this has hit us n sg hard,all we did last season was talk abt ft n sg but we fail to realise that alonso was the key to our run last season.
alonso kept the team together with short n long passes n always providing an outlet whenever needed which was crucial to the team,i think rafa made a mistake by using alonso as a bait.big mistake i might add but changing the manager to freshen things up is not gonna help us, we shd jus stick out with the spainard like wat the scums did when they fininsed 2nd 1 seaon n finished 7th the following season,we r at our lowest point ever in rafa s reign,i still believe he is the man to bring us our 19th tittle.we reds fans got to jus stick this one out.there is a saying when things go badly even the stray dogs will bark at u.its not fair that ppl r on a witch hunt,ppl like ronnie whelan who only manage swindon town n not won a thing as a manager.

[kopties]

I have this niggling feeling. The season before GH Left us (or rather sacked) he was here with the team. I remembered q'ing for hours just to take picture with the 3 cups.:p And Last season (year 2009) RB brought the team down to sillypore again and this season we are like shit. Maybe our sillypore is a jinx to pool. :eek:

[Xgenre]

Maybe our sillypore is a jinx to pool. :eek:

Basket, you got nothing better to say? :D

Everyone's looking for someone or something to blame for our team's performance this season. Why do we have to blame ourselves? A lot of us can't afford the time or money to visit Anfield. Even if we visit Anfield, I doubt we can see the whole squad in action too. I really hope they don't take another 8 years to come visit us.

Seriously, I don't think our performance is hampered by spending pre-season in Singapore. A lot of other teams spent pre-season out of England too and it didn't affect their performances.

[rahl]

well i think alonso s depature as been underestimated,

Of course bro the Alonso factor has had an impact but it is up to the manager to find a direct replacement or another midfielder who brings a different strength to the team (faster than Alonso, scores more goals etc). See Becks, Ince leaving Scum.

That's the problem and we haven't done that. I have always defended Lucas but he can't plug the hole in the middle.

Coming to Stoke, it was an ugly game and I fear our remaining games will be like that - grind out results with little attacking play - for fuck's sake, surely AA and Maxi now (and Riera) deserve more playing time.

Spurs will be defining for us. If we can beat them, we can build some confidence.

In the long run, what's gonna happen? Torres and Stevie look too injury prone as an attacking pair and Rafa's aim surely now must be to build a team around an alternative with decent backups.

Sigh.

[Xgenre]

Guys, yesterday was a better performance than that morning at Reading. I know the result isn't what we wanted but trust me, we showed more desire and conviction than at Reading. Granted that we are still toothless upfront but look at how hard we tried to gain control of central midfield. Tackles flying everywhere, the pace of the match was terrific for the entire 90 minutes. It was a great way to introduce the BPL to Maxi.

If Man City wins, we will be 7 points behind with 17 matches to go. Still recoverable if we stand behind our team. A lot of us might think Rafa should go. I was reading Soccernet's article on Mourinho. The report says he will only come to Liverpool if the Yankies sold away their shares and a rich investor comes in with a huge transfer budget for him. Ridiculous! If we can get rid of the Yankies and get a huge transfer kitty, then Rafa won't be in such a position! We would have gotten better players right now.

If we are going to sack Rafa and then replace him with someone else and not to give the new manager money to spend, what's the point of sacking Rafa then? The new manager will be as crippled in player purchases as Rafa is. Diffferent guy, same situation.

I felt sorry for Rafa watching last night's match. As the camera zooms in on his face before the match, you can see him trying to maintain a dignified look despite all the job speculation.

1.Here is a guy who declined a high pay package and a great transfer kitty at Real Madrid to stay with us. Somemore he came from Real Madrid.
2.Here is a guy who describes Liverpool as his city. Who has never shown the middle finger to Liverpool fans.
3.Here is a guy working with stupid Americans who wanted to replace him with Klinsman (an inexperienced manager) and denied him a reasonable transfer budget.
4.Here is a guy whose transfer targets are screwed up by Rick Parry. (Get Barry then Keane, says Rafa) but (Rick got Keane and no Barry).

I just wish we can show him half the loyalty he showed us. The problems at Anfield aren't Rafa's doing alone. I don't even think we can put 50% of the blame on him. He's the fall guy in a stupid system (think Parry, Gillet and Hicks). I do wish someone will pick on this and report it in the press. If anything, I blame David Moore for selling to the Americans. If it's a straight off commercial decision, no one can fault him. But David Moore told us that he will screen through prospective buyers to find an owner befitting our club. That's why Thaksin and the Arabs are out. David, you screwed up BIG TIME!

[rahl]

Guys, yesterday was a better performance than that morning at Reading. I know the result isn't what we wanted but trust me, we showed more desire and conviction than at Reading. Granted that we are still toothless upfront but look at how hard we tried to gain control of central midfield. Tackles flying everywhere, the pace of the match was terrific for the entire 90 minutes. It was a great way to introduce the BPL to Maxi.

I just wish we can show him half the loyalty he showed us. The problems at Anfield aren't Rafa's doing alone. I don't even think we can put 50% of the blame on him. He's the fall guy in a stupid system (think Parry, Gillet and Hicks). I do wish someone will pick on this and report it in the press. If anything, I blame David Moore for selling to the Americans. If it's a straight off commercial decision, no one can fault him. But David Moore told us that he will screen through prospective buyers to find an owner befitting our club. That's why Thaksin and the Arabs are out. David, you screwed up BIG TIME!

Nice one bro, and it helped revive my belief in Rafa ;)

Certainly get rid of the Yanks first before we consider what to do with the manager.

It's great Rafa values us so highly, compared to his Valencia time, but ultimately he is judged according to results and he is running out of time and dollars and cents. It's not even about tactics anymore if we don't have a deep squad that can cover for injuries up front.

PS. I'm glad the Italian-loving press got it up their a#$ at Goodison Park last night heheh.

[kopties]

Basket, you got nothing better to say? :D

Everyone's looking for someone or something to blame for our team's performance this season. Why do we have to blame ourselves? A lot of us can't afford the time or money to visit Anfield. Even if we visit Anfield, I doubt we can see the whole squad in action too. I really hope they don't take another 8 years to come visit us.

Seriously, I don't think our performance is hampered by spending pre-season in Singapore. A lot of other teams spent pre-season out of England too and it didn't affect their performances.

Sigh...hearing all these rant on players, manager, management...etc etc etc.. i thought i have come up with an innovative & unique explaination on why we are doing so poorly this season. :D

Next match must wear red colour underwear to watch the match liao. :p

[bochapsing]

1.Here is a guy who declined a high pay package and a great transfer kitty at Real Madrid to stay with us. Somemore he came from Real Madrid.
2.Here is a guy who describes Liverpool as his city. Who has never shown the middle finger to Liverpool fans.
3.Here is a guy working with stupid Americans who wanted to replace him with Klinsman (an inexperienced manager) and denied him a reasonable transfer budget.
4.Here is a guy whose transfer targets are screwed up by Rick Parry. (Get Barry then Keane, says Rafa) but (Rick got Keane and no Barry).

I just wish we can show him half the loyalty he showed us. The problems at Anfield aren't Rafa's doing alone. I don't even think we can put 50% of the blame on him. He's the fall guy in a stupid system (think Parry, Gillet and Hicks). I do wish someone will pick on this and report it in the press. If anything, I blame David Moore for selling to the Americans. If it's a straight off commercial decision, no one can fault him. But David Moore told us that he will screen through prospective buyers to find an owner befitting our club. That's why Thaksin and the Arabs are out. David, you screwed up BIG TIME!

well said, bro...

indeed, rafa could just walk out of liverpool and get a job with similar salary ANYTIME..

rumours in papers saying tat the 2 idoits lining up few names to replace rafa:-

1. MARK HUGHES!!!! - he can't even do the job with unlimited budget...

2. Martin O' Neil - he may be good enuf for challenging (i mean challenge, not winning EPL), but definitely not good enuf for european football.. and both o'neil and hughes won't be able to attract world class players.. just look at man city, they r paying over-the-odd prices and wages to get players...

3. Mourinho - i'm keeping myself neautral abt appoint him.. but he already made himself clear, he'll consider ONLY the 2 idoits sold up..

4. Hiddink - best choice, thou he's not the youngest.. but 1st, he need to get the nod from abramovic thou he's officially off his payroll.. secondly, why he would want to manage a club with so much backroom and finacial problems.. he does not short of offers too..

5. Kenny Dalgish - guess he's fan favourite.. but he's been out of touch from club management for years... and he din do well in his last job too...

why can't those 2 idoits get themselves out of liverpool...??!!!

[rahl]

3. Mourinho - i'm keeping myself neautral abt appoint him.. but he already made himself clear, he'll consider ONLY the 2 idoits sold up..



Actually he didn't, it was the press (aka 'City expert' that made up the story ;)

[bochapsing]

Actually he didn't, it was the press (aka 'City expert' that made up the story ;)

opss... the press again... they seems love to make up stories abt us...

[bochapsing]

Looking at how Man City is flourishing after sacking Hughes, I think Rafa's job is under increasing strain. If Mancini isn't doing so well at Man City, maybe there is lesser reason to sack Rafa now.


PS. I'm glad the Italian-loving press got it up their a#$ at Goodison Park last night heheh.

honeymoon ends early for mancini... he failed his first test... rumours saying tat man city actually planned his appointment such tat he's having a easy "settling in" run of matches...

only consolation of the weekend is tat none of the 4th place contenders won.. spur, villa draw, man city lost... and chelsea won (sorry, but i'm supporting chelsea to beat man utd for the title)...

[Frankiestine]

Rafael is undeniably a great tactician of the game but it works only if his players has the confidence or the motivation to carry out his plans.He has at his disposal some of the greatest players but it is clear what they need now is a dose of motivation which I honestly doubt a motivator he is one....:(

[asspanker]

being reading the senior mates who support our reds thoughts and pls keep supporting no matter what.

we were so close last yr and this yr we suffer the brunt of all jokes and shit from everyone. even my dad is asking me to swap sides & suanning me tt liverpool is playing lousy tis yr. of course i refuse to give up, and probably never give up on our team..

i firmly believe that rafa will bring us to glory but its difficult now no thks to the 2 f dicks owners.. why cant they just sell off and get fuck off?? its creating alot of chaos n i guess even some players are affected psychologically....

i guess we hhave been reli cursed tis yr with the last min giveaway goals . made wins into draws and draws into defeats.. sigh just no lady luck tis yr.. and with the injuries and lack of $$ to get cover. we end up with a defender loaded team@ stoke.

we looked pretty ordinary , much like a lower half table team..

even leeds showed me something vs manu in FA cup..

anyway sacking rafa now wont do any good for us..
lets take 1 match @ a time n keep it tight to the pack for 4th place for now.. it will be v close fight man..

peace for the reds..

[Xgenre]

4 points from 4th spot, with 17 matches remaining. 5 teams fighting for the 4th spot. This will be a close one this season. Let's not give up on our team. I know we are supposed to be challenging for the title this year. Unfortunately, that dream is gone. Hurts man, after 19 years without a league victory.

But losing a title challenge is a different matter from losing the 4th spot. So what if we are out of the Champions League, FA Cup, League Cup? 4th Spot is a different matter altogether. In fact, this could be a blessing in disguise if we could only focus on the challenge for 4th spot (give up the europa league i will say). I remembered we only got 5th spot in 2005 when we are trying to secure 4th spot plus win the Champions League.

If you look at our last 2 games (reading and stoke), we are damn near to victories in both matches, aren't we? Lost 1 match from the last tackle of the game and drew a match from a corner in the last few minutes. If we can beat Spurs this thu morning, we will be much closer. Did you guys see the fire in Carragher's and Krygiakos's eyes in the match against Stoke? I think our players are hungry but sibeh sway at times.

I know we lost Gerrard and Torres. Could be a good thing too. Our attack does focus a lot on Gerrard's brilliance and Torres's trickery, just like how we use to depend so heavily on Heskey passing the ball to Owen (think FA cup against Arsenal). Now that we lost Torres and Gerrard, our opponents also don't know who to mark and how to prepare to defend against us. May be good for us right?

We guys are liverpool fans. Aren't you used to watching us play badly when we are expected to steamroll past our opponents or watching us play brilliantly when expectations of a victory are damn low? :p The last I checked, expectations among liverpool fans seemed pretty low now, so... who knows what kind of performance we might give against Spurs?

Noticed the posts in this thread dried up as our performances sucked. Hope you guys aren't so depressed that you don't wish to do or write anything related to Liverpool. Come on, cheer up!!! We can do it guys!!! Am I walking alone? No way right...?

[hawksbay]

Rafael is undeniably a great tactician of the game but it works only if his players has the confidence or the motivation to carry out his plans.He has at his disposal some of the greatest players but it is clear what they need now is a dose of motivation which I honestly doubt a motivator he is one....:(

motivation?playing 4 liverpool f.c shd be motivation enuf 4 the players,they r paid big bucks jus to do that.still a long way to go.

[rahl]

motivation?playing 4 liverpool f.c shd be motivation enuf 4 the players,they r paid big bucks jus to do that.still a long way to go.

It's about lifting confidence really, rather than motivation to do well. You see the team is working real hard in some matches, just lacking confidence and some additional quality to seal the result.

Motivation is over-rated - players don't play well cos there is some great motivational figure with charisma in the club (the captain is probably more important in this respect than the gaffer).

[hawksbay]

It's about lifting confidence really, rather than motivation to do well. You see the team is working real hard in some matches, just lacking confidence and some additional quality to seal the result.

Motivation is over-rated - players don't play well cos there is some great motivational figure with charisma in the club (the captain is probably more important in this respect than the gaffer).

well the captain is not doing a good job of it,the players really wrked hard against stoke,jus unlucky we cld hold on,all this talk of letting go of rafa is all rubbish,jus let him do the job,we r going thru a bad patch n he will get us out of it.

[asspanker]

its like prof AW went through a spell of 5 yrs or so without any trophy won. but he stuck to his beliefs ans see where they are now. in 2yrs time the gunners are going to really run rings around e blues n devils LITERALLY.

the avg age of their squad is so young i would have thought its a U23/21 team at times. and not EPL!!

back to rafa, sometimes i JUST wish tt he show more enthuaism on the pitch. but he is just uber cool. iceman...

let us know ur emotions at least its more heathly rather bottling it up..

[eeemen]

You'll Never Walk Alone bro Xgenre. Totally agree with your comments!

Anyway, here is some light reading for all YNWA fans >>

Sky Sports | Blogs | The Insider | Benitez bluster (http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,25212,16708_5868994,00.html?)


Is this the man to save Liverpool’s season? | Football Corner (http://www.football-corner.org/2010/01/18/is-this-the-man-to-save-liverpools-season/?)


Liverpool FC managing director says banks won't loan club cash for stadium without new ownership - SportsPro Media (http://www.sportspromedia.com/notes_and_insights/_a/liverpool_fc_managing_director_says_banks_wont_loa n_club_cash_for_stadium_w/?utm_source=Syndication+Websites&utm_campaign=Syndication+Websites&utm_medium=syndication_websites)

Football | News | Premier League | Exclusives | ITV Spy: Sympathy for Benitez4856 - ITV Sport (http://www.itv.com/sport/football/news/premierleague/exclusives/itvspysympathyforbenitez4856/default.html?)

Batting for Rafa and Liverpool (http://soccerlens.com/batting-for-rafa/39268/)


Would axing Rafa be the answer…I’m not so sure | FootballFanCast.com (http://www.footballfancast.com/football-blogs/axing-rafa-answerim?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+ffc_liverpool_blogs+(FFC_Liverp ool_Blogs))

Liverpool - Liverpool: Media Mischief (http://www.liverpool.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=185038)


Spurs - Write Liverpool off at your peril!! (http://www.spurs.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7503342)


Benitez still bargain hunting - The Irish Times - Mon, Jan 18, 2010 (http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soccer/2010/0118/1224262624842.html?)


DES KELLY: Surely it's time to send Rafa Benitez through Anfield's exit door | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1243655/DES-KELLY-Surely-time-send-Rafa-Benitez-Anfields-exit-door.html?)


Axing Rafa is one thing, but who should replace him? | FootballFanCast.com (http://www.footballfancast.com/football-blogs/axing-rafa-replace?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+ffc_liverpool_blogs+(FFC_Liverp ool_Blogs))

FIFA.com - Benitez: We have a good team (http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=1158799.html?cid=rssfeed&att=)



Hope this has not been posted before, enjoy, cheers , YNWA ..........

[pirambi]

I guess other then Pepe Reina who has been the only consistent player this season, the rest has actually fell short of their potential.

Hate to say this but thou Ronaldo was the key player for scums last few season but his departure did not disrupt their performance too much all because they have been consistent thou not a single player stood out this season..

hey scumbag, i guess u r missing the cheater alonso a lot he would play the most ugliest futbal and get points for u.

[asspanker]

gd 1st half. least dirk starts at cf instead of ngog..
aa gt some nice plays n hoe he can get better frm tis...

2-0 finally. nice play overall n although spurs did have a few chances, we still got it more!!rafa u can do it. nites

[Xgenre]

Battling display. It's a performance that is quite similar to the game versus Stoke (full of hunger and running). To beat the 4th placed team in the quest for 4th place is always a good result. Aquilani looks good. Hope Maxi settles in faster. Deegen's not bad, if only he shot more. Wasted man... Glad Kuyt got 2 goals (he should have had 5 goals).

At least I didn't waste my sleep today. :D

[rahl]

I must say I am proud of our team tonight.

Kuyt led the line superbly and despite missing some easy chances deserved the clinching goal. Lots of nerve in taking and then retaking the penalty.

AA was good in the link up and showing a lot of promise.

Credit to the defence and Reina - with Skrtel and Kyrg, we have more presence at the back.

This must be the way forward now - no superstars for one month, the team has got to work like one.

Well deserved win.

[Cum_Luver]

just when we thought that we are dead,the team responded perfectly.
a morale victory for us and Rafa.

[beck7777]

Didnt watch the game until the last 7min.. Cant wake up! :p

But I like what I saw, especially when the team is really wacking Spurs despite mins to go, leading by a goal..

The desire to kill the game off really impressed me...

Nonetheless, its a great result, clean sheet (no last min goal let in :D )...

Plus this weekend is off for us, giving the injuried players more time to recover!!!

[bochapsing]

finally there's something to cheer abt..

not the best performance, but it'a a hard fought victory...

the defense played well.. esp Kyrg, he won everything in the air.. carragher defended well and put in few good crosses too.. although he can dribble, but this guy can cross...

riera made the midfield more balance.. rest of midfireld battled hard..

well done & keep it up...!!!!


~YNWA~~

[cnsing]

[QUOTE=rahl;4493788]
Kuyt led the line superbly and despite missing some easy chances deserved the clinching goal. Lots of nerve in taking and then retaking the penalty.

AA was good in the link up and showing a lot of promise.
QUOTE]

kuyt should play as striker when torres is absent, esp now we have maxi to play in right midfield.

aquilani seems to be more suitable to play in the attacking midfield role (gerrard role), instead of central midfield (alonso role).

[Snow-Wolf]

Hi bros, I am ever so pleased that at least there is something to cheer about after the 2-0 win over Spurs early this morning. Hopefully, this will give the entire team a big lift and they can go on from strength to strength and get the necessary wins and good results in the remaining games so that we will secure fourth and be in the Champions League next season.

Credit where its due, I thought Rafa got his tactics spot on by playing Kuyt at centre-forward, instead of sticking him out wide on the right. Credit to Kuyt too for his usual harworking display. He is indeed so much more effective in his natural position as centre-forward where he can bash himself about against the Spurs backline and create a nuisance of himself to put them off their defending. True enough, his display came with the reward of the double strike to secure all three points. I really hope that Rafa will continue to leave Kuyt to play there regularly, at least until Torres returns!!

I would also like to see Rafa start the next match with Maxi Rodriguez on the right wing and Albert Riera on the left wing so that we will have more width and balance going forward in attack. For now, with Gerrard injured, there is little choice but to stick with Lucas Leiva to partner Mascherano in the centre of the park. Also, with Johnson similarly injured, I wouldn't change Carragher at right back as he is as always solid in defence and ever dependable. I think Kyrgiakos and Skrtel had a fine match last night as well and since they are are doing well in their partnership at the centre of defence, I would not want to tinker too much there and change things when it is going well. I hope Rafa shares the same thoughts as me for the next game, which is away to Wolves this Saturday. As usual, I worry about his tinkering and squad rotation, which in my view is not always necessary and has proved to be ineffective on many occasions thus far. My own view is that for as long as you play with your eleven best players you have at hand at any one time and they are doing well for you, why impose changes. In short, if it ain't broke, don't attempt to fix it!

Hence, with the injuries to the first team regulars we've got right now (no Gerrard, Torres, Benayoun and Johnson) my starting eleven for this coming Saturday's away game against Wolves would be (formation 4-4-1-1) :--

Reina

Carragher-Skertel-Kyrgiakos-Insua

Rodriguez-Mascherano-Leiva-Riera

Aquilani

Kuyt

My subs would be:--
Diego-Agger-Aurelio-Degen-Babel-Ngog-Darby (or Spearing).

Any bros have other suggestions on the formation and players for this Saturday's upcoming away game against Wolves?

[rahl]

carragher defended well and put in few good crosses too.. although he can dribble, but this guy can cross...

riera made the midfield more balance.. rest of midfireld battled hard..






End of first half, Carra easily pushes past the overrated Gareth Bale and wins a corner. There was Mr Liverpool right there. (From the corner, Kuyt had a header cleared off the line and Skrtel hammered a shot over).

Agreed, the balance is key. I agree with Riera and Maxi on the flanks (to be honest, Degen has done extremely well for a free transfer - how many freekicks has he won?)

[asspanker]

End of first half, Carra easily pushes past the overrated Gareth Bale and wins a corner. There was Mr Liverpool right there. (From the corner, Kuyt had a header cleared off the line and Skrtel hammered a shot over).

Agreed, the balance is key. I agree with Riera and Maxi on the flanks (to be honest, Degen has done extremely well for a free transfer - how many freekicks has he won?)


indeed. that was Mr ever dependable carragher. the kop applauded the effort.
although he did seem a bit winded after that run..:p as he's getting up in ages..

but i still feel maybe rafa could have stuck to last season's defensive concentration instead of focusing on attack. Which in turn leads to many goals conceded this year and thus more draws and defeats.

BUt again who am i to say our big boss??

lets keep the momentum going this sat ..

[Xgenre]

End of first half, Carra easily pushes past the overrated Gareth Bale and wins a corner. There was Mr Liverpool right there. (From the corner, Kuyt had a header cleared off the line and Skrtel hammered a shot over).

Sibeh impressive right? Didn't expect him to push forward so suddenly too and with such great pace too. Nobody did. We were lucky we got a corner. Things happened so fast that he crossed without looking to see if any of our players are even in the box! :p Without Gerrard and Torres, I really think teams will find it hard to defend against us. It's hard to practise your tactics when you can't even figure out which liverpool player will be playing and in what role. Who would have guessed that Krygiakos, Skrtel and even Deegen will have so many goal scoring chances?

Even up to the 90th min, before Kuyt scored his penalty, I can't be sure it won't be a draw like at Stoke. Very exciting match. If Spurs had scored, the headlines would have been on our missed chances. A lot of the shots on target are the result of a lot of flowing moves on our side. Ngog should have scored a beauty. Riera had a few headers. Deegen should have been more selfish etc. I'm worried about Kuyt leading the line though. He may not have the legs to play 90 mins for every match till Torres returns. He looks so tired last night.

I was watching Football Focus with John Dykes and Shebby Singh was moaning about how we played Deegen (a defender) at right midfield at Stoke. He says Rafa is negative and blah blah blah without using his brain. 1 commentator (don't know who but seemed very close to Rafa) replied something to the content of 'Did you see the players on Liverpool's bench in that game?' There wasn't any fit right midfielder in Liverpool. Gerrard and Benyanoun are injured. Kuyt is playing upfront. It's Maxi's first game. Who else is there? Can see Shebby shutting up. I think we are really getting a lot of baseless criticisms this season.

[bochapsing]

I was watching Football Focus with John Dykes and Shebby Singh was moaning about how we played Deegen (a defender) at right midfield at Stoke. He says Rafa is negative and blah blah blah without using his brain. 1 commentator (don't know who but seemed very close to Rafa) replied something to the content of 'Did you see the players on Liverpool's bench in that game?' There wasn't any fit right midfielder in Liverpool. Gerrard and Benyanoun are injured. Kuyt is playing upfront. It's Maxi's first game. Who else is there? Can see Shebby shutting up. I think we are really getting a lot of baseless criticisms this season.

nowadays, i dun even bother to watch such Football Show hosted by some "experts" or some ex-players (who din really know the game even when they were playing and now suddenly becoming experts..)

sometime i even turn off the volume during Live matches... i ever heard commentator saying something like... "wat a wonderful pass by XXX, but too bad nobody is there...".. wat a joke!!!

[rahl]

indeed. that was Mr ever dependable carragher. the kop applauded the effort.
although he did seem a bit winded after that run..:p as he's getting up in ages..



Sibeh impressive right? Didn't expect him to push forward so suddenly too and with such great pace too. Nobody did. We were lucky we got a corner. Things happened so fast that he crossed without looking to see if any of our players are even in the box! :p

I was watching Football Focus with John Dykes and Shebby Singh was moaning about how we played Deegen (a defender) at right midfield at Stoke.

After the winning the corner, Carra tells his team (he was captain) to calm down. The bloody bloke!! :D

I thought Degen has been a very interesting option at right midfield and is slowly growing into his role. How many times has he been fouled against? And his attitude is always spot on. All of us were disappointed when he missed the first season with injuries. But hopefully now he can stake a claim to the team as backup to Kuyt or Maxi.

[asspanker]

After the winning the corner, Carra tells his team (he was captain) to calm down. The bloody bloke!! :D

I thought Degen has been a very interesting option at right midfield and is slowly growing into his role. How many times has he been fouled against? And his attitude is always spot on. All of us were disappointed when he missed the first season with injuries. But hopefully now he can stake a claim to the team as backup to Kuyt or Maxi.


i have to say degen impressed in the game but i cant say if he can make more impact and contribution to the team in that role...

unless rafa decides to drop lucas once SG, FT & YB recovers from their injuries. Hate to see rafa revert back to his very 'standard' lineup..

even degen is playing , this shows that babel is really finished at liverpool..

[joew2005]

every game in the EPL is a CUP FINAL match 2 The Reds.

U don't play 4 anything less than a win in a CUP FINAL.

Next cup final match - 26/1 away against Wolves.

[28ahken]

Hey guys! newbie here! and a fan of the reds since 1996!

hopefully the arrival of maxi rodriguez can help add some quality and dept to liverpool wings!

[Snow-Wolf]

Its away to wolves tonight (at 3.45am). Another must win game in the quest for 4th....!

My suggested starting eleven for tonight (with injuries to Torres, Benayoun and Johnson) :-

4-4-1-1

Reina

Carragher - Skrtel - Kyrgiakos - Insua

Maxi -Mascherano - Lucas - Riera

Aquilani

Kuyt

Subs:-

Gerrard (he's just back from injury and I would not take the risk of starting him, but i will consider to bring him on later as an impact substitution only if necessary), Diego, Agger, Aurelio, Babel, Ngog and Darby (or Spearing).

What do bros think? Any other recommendations on the formation tonight?

[Ninja_Assassin]

Hey guys! newbie here! and a fan of the reds since 1996!

hopefully the arrival of maxi rodriguez can help add some quality and dept to liverpool wings!

Maxi is a quality player....... but unfortunately his fitness is not up to BPL standard yet :( ....... will need another 3-4 weeks of training before we can expect to see him play on a regular basis. At present he probably will spent most of his time on the bench.

[Xgenre]

Maxi is a quality player....... but unfortunately his fitness is not up to BPL standard yet :( ....... will need another 3-4 weeks of training before we can expect to see him play on a regular basis. At present he probably will spent most of his time on the bench.

What makes you think so he isn't fit? May be too early to judge if he has the fitness for the BPL. He looks fine so far (30 mins into the match), hopes he lasts. He may also need to get used to the pace of the BPL and the horrible weather. I like how we are attacking now. Much more positive. Our guys are hungry!

Hope to read more about your views. We do need more ninjas and assassins. :p

[Xgenre]

Why did I bother to wake up? I seriously think Rafa just want a draw. Got to be kidding me, we only had 3 shots on goal and 3 shots away on goal playing away at Wolves. How do you explain the benching of Aquilani after his display with Spurs? We were horrible, just pumping long balls one after another. It's not as if there is any targetman on the pitch. Imagine watching a match where Wolves pump a long ball at us. We pumped a long ball back to them. They pump back to us and so forth. Imagine this going on for 10 mins. Nobody remembers how to pass the ball on the field anymore.

Skrtel is lucky to remain on the pitch, after a reckless 2 footed tackle. Insua keeps getting turned. Ngog has little game intelligence. He's another version of Milan Baros. Take the ball and run fast, often blindly without spotting the runs of his team-mates nearby. If we got to rely on him till Torres returns... can't see how we will finish 4th... Gerrard is just terrible. His crosses are 'imaginary'. Cross without looking at where our players are, just cross and hope someone's there. I think Gerrard should be dropped for a few matches to wake him up. We don't lose much attacking edge with him so off-form.

I'm really worried about our team. Rafa used to keep talking about the strenght of the spine of our team and how young our squad's average age is. Well, Gerrard, Carragher, Benyanoun, Kuyt and Riera's average age is close to 30. These players are hard to replace and I really don't think we have the budget to.

Sigh... It's 1 thing to complain we don't have the budget to buy good players. It's another thing to not use your best players when they are fit and available. Can't explain why Benyanoun or Aquilani doesn't play sometimes. Especially when the 11 players on the pitch are lacking attacking ideas.

[rahl]

I'm really worried about our team. Rafa used to keep talking about the strenght of the spine of our team and how young our squad's average age is. Well, Gerrard, Carragher, Benyanoun, Kuyt and Riera's average age is close to 30. These players are hard to replace and I really don't think we have the budget to.



Yup it's no longer true and Rafa realises it - that he has to build a new group of younger players already - the plus here is that we are ready to some extent, with the young players already in our setup.

[sex crusader]

Ask uncle RAfa the stubborn bull!Why is he always like to put Lucas to make up the 11? I think it's time for him to shut up and deliver results.Fourth place is slipping away fast.....:rolleyes:

[Snow-Wolf]

Well, another two points dropped against a team battling for relegation! :(

Obviously the result is dissapointing to say the least, but what gets to me the most is the manner in which the team played last night. I mean if we played well and still got beat or drew because we had no luck or any rub of the green as they say, then thats one thing; but when the team plays like a bunch of conference league footballers....then bollocks!!!:mad:

We just weren't up for it last night. It was a totally scrappy game and we couldn't even string 3 or 4 passes together. There was no width, we gave the ball away too much, there was no creativity and hence, no penetration whatsoever! Even Gerrard had a really poor game by his own usually high standards!!!

We were once "THE TEAM" to beat but where are we now? In truth, nowhere. What can I say, fighting for 4th place??? Even that is not a gimme as it appears that 4th place is drifting away with each game and there really aren't many games left to simply drop points due to totally insipid performances on the football pitch.

Where are we now? Frankly, nowhere. This season had been a complete nightmare and a total disaster albeit due mostly to events happening off the football field! Nevertheless, on account of last nights' performance, the players have to take some criticism as well. Even if we are facing financial problems brought about by the stupid yankee owners, even if we have a bull-headed manager who makes inexplicable choices for his starting eleven and even if we have lost no less than 3 first team regulars to injury, anyone (except the bookies, of course) would have expected no less than 3 points against wolves last night.

Credit to wolves obviously for putting up a spirited performance to gain a share of the points. However, it cannot be said that they were so good on the night that we were denied the win. In my view, we looked like any oridinary mid-table team on the basis of last nights' performance.

Here's the big picture : I am really starting to fear that we will fail to qualify for the Champions League next season and with that, we lose our top stars like Gerrard and Torres, when they leave to find greener pastures and greater honours with the likes of Chelsea, Barcelona and Inter-Milan for example. :eek: If that happens, we will definitely fall away into mid-table mediocrity or worse!!!!:(

I am ever hopeful that we go on a great run and put together a 8 to 10 match winning streak. It remains to be seen whether I hope in vain.

Any bros have comments on this to share? Most importantly, do you see us winning the race for 4th place? Please share your viewpoints...? Thanks.

[asspanker]

with all honesty and possiblity, its gonna be a reality if the team continues playing like some mediorce team.

i just cant get a grip on why rafa keeps playing his 'undroppable' players aka lucas, even SG when they are in poor form, or just recover from innjury.

there are still games to be played verus the top 6 or 7 teams left but seriously.... not getting 4th spot.. is avery real thing to happen...

[Regaine]

Ask uncle RAfa the stubborn bull!Why is he always like to put Lucas to make up the 11? I think it's time for him to shut up and deliver results.Fourth place is slipping away fast.....:rolleyes:

This is my main worry. If we do not even get the 4th spot we will see an exodus of players in the summer. I wonder how long must we wait for the EPL title ???

[Frankiestine]

Damn the owners are going to offload Yossi......looks like the team is heading south...fuck those damn yankees....nothing good has come out since they bought over the team...:mad::mad:

[rahl]

Nervy win over Bolton and we had some luck that we never did in the first half of the season.

Once we scored the second, we looked much better as a team and should have hammered them.

AA was off form but finally got to see Maxi involved in the attacks.

Likely we sign Jones in the last minute of the window?

[bochapsing]

Damn the owners are going to offload Yossi......looks like the team is heading south...fuck those damn yankees....nothing good has come out since they bought over the team...

not only they pocketed the money from sale of dossena & voronin, now they still want to offload yossi..!!!

Nervy win over Bolton and we had some luck that we never did in the first half of the season.

sick of those commentators, keep talking abt how lucky we're to score teh gols and not to concede tat 1-on-1 by tat korean of bolton...

it's abt time for us to enjoy some luck liao....

Likely we sign Jones in the last minute of the window?

nooooo.... hope it's just a rumour... really can't see anything in him...

[GeMiNiZzzzZzz]

nooooo.... hope it's just a rumour... really can't see anything in him...

Somewhat agree that Jones would not really fit into the striker's division in the class of Liverpool.

However - are we going to depend on Babel OR Ngog to lead us during Torres's absence ?

Its worth a try now as we are struggling to fight the the final CL's position..:)

[rahl]

nooooo.... hope it's just a rumour... really can't see anything in him...

Well we do need someone to hold up the ball, free up space for the wingers. Ngog can't do it and Kuyt will work all day but is not athletic enough against a determined defender.

If Jones comes, he will be here as a rough diamond to develop.

[Frankiestine]

Somewhat agree that Jones would not really fit into the striker's division in the class of Liverpool.

However - are we going to depend on Babel OR Ngog to lead us during Torres's absence ?

Its worth a try now as we are struggling to fight the the final CL's position..:)

Jones while not a classy striker is more in the mould of a striker like Drogba..the kind of striker that makes it a nightmare for defenders because of their build...

[David_Villa]

IMHO Liverpool need to sign David Villa!! :)

[GeMiNiZzzzZzz]

Jones while not a classy striker is more in the mould of a striker like Drogba..the kind of striker that makes it a nightmare for defenders because of their build...

Yep - we can only afford him with the resources/monies we have, its worth a try now..

IMHO Liverpool need to sign David Villa!! :)

If only we got the prince of saudi /arab / kuwait...as owners :eek:

[bochapsing]

the mould of a striker like Drogba..the kind of striker that makes it a nightmare for defenders because of their build...


If Jones comes, he will be here as a rough diamond to develop.

he does remind us of a "raw" drogba... but if he does come, we'll cross our fingers and hope rafa can polish this raw diamond and turn him into a younger drogba..
but no matter who liverpool signs, he'll still a liverpool player and i'll give him my full support...

:p:p



but then plenty of fans here will start criticise rafa for signing "potential" again...

IMHO Liverpool need to sign David Villa!! :)

we can't even afford the left leg of villa... ...

[Xgenre]

Liverpool have announced that German youngster Christopher Buchtmann has joined Fulham.

The left-back joined the Academy in 2008 from Borussia Dortmund and was a pivotal part of the side that reached the FA Youth Cup final last season. He was named among UEFA's top 10 stars of the future in May 2009 and made the move to train full-time at Melwood last summer. He also featured for Germany when they won the UEFA U17 European Championship last year.

Liverpoolfc.tv would like to wish Chris all the very best for the future.

We only signed Maxi Rodriguez right? How come we are selling our better youth player? He can play both left-back and left midfield and we do need people in these areas. This guy is fantastic in my Football Manager game. Sigh...

[bochapsing]

Liverpool have announced that German youngster Christopher Buchtmann has joined Fulham.

The left-back joined the Academy in 2008 from Borussia Dortmund and was a pivotal part of the side that reached the FA Youth Cup final last season. He was named among UEFA's top 10 stars of the future in May 2009 and made the move to train full-time at Melwood last summer. He also featured for Germany when they won the UEFA U17 European Championship last year.

Liverpoolfc.tv would like to wish Chris all the very best for the future.

We only signed Maxi Rodriguez right? How come we are selling our better youth player? He can play both left-back and left midfield and we do need people in these areas. This guy is fantastic in my Football Manager game. Sigh...

SHOCKING NEW...!!!!!

can't believe we sold him, should have shot whoever sanction tis deal...!!!

watched him in the U-17 championship last year, he's the star of Germany who won... hope we did insert some buy-back clause somewhere in the deal, else we will regret it and may spend millions of dollar buying him back..
after watching the U-17, i was having high hope in tis chap, feel that together with pacheco, they r the best youngsters we have... thought that he has great potential to break into 1st team or squad very soon..

i can't recall tat we have another better or up and coming young LB or LM...

shocking...!!!



:confused::confused::confused:

[owen10]

I'm really sick with the whole American debacle. hopefully this will end soon. New owners, cash injection, new stadium, new players n Pool starts next season on a fresh note! :)

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Liverpool chase £100m investment before summer
By Soccernet staff

February 3, 2010


Liverpool require a £100 million cash injection before the summer or owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett will face a decision over whether to sell the club when the current debt-refinancing agreement ends in July.

Christian Purslow: Liverpool managing director met with fans' group Spirit of Shankly.

Minutes from a meeting between Liverpool managing director Christian Purslow and supporters' group 'Spirit of Shankly' last month, released on the group's website, suggest that the Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) and Wachovia - the banks with whom Liverpool currently have a refinancing deal - are putting pressure on the club to find £100 million of new investment to help better manage their reported £237 million of debt.

The current refinancing deal with RBS and Wachovia runs out in July and if Liverpool don't meet the £100 million investment figure then it's thought Gillett and Hicks will either have to seek an agreement with a new bank, or put the club up for sale.

Purslow admitted at the meeting that, though a cash injection was a requirement laid down by the banks, no promises had been made and there was no guarantee that investment will be found in time.

"One of our key priorities is to reduce the debt by £100 million," he said. "This is a requirement from our bankers and will allow us to look at more flexible and longer-term refinancing when this investment is brought in. The targeted reduction was agreed by the bank, myself and the owners when I was brought in [as managing director].

"The £100 million will be made by the issuance of new shares, and will not go towards anything else other than paying down the debt, reducing it to £137 million. This new investment will also mean a dilution of the current ownership."

Purslow also revealed that after beginning the search for new investors last year, the number of potential investors has reduced from "25-30" to "five or six" with whom the club are currently in discussions.

"There are no promises [that investment can be secured in July], just an expectation and hope that it can be done in that time," Purslow said. "I cannot guarantee it.

"There had been around 25-30 investors interested, although some were clearly not seriously interested once we had spoken with them. There are now around five or six potential investors with whom we are talking.

"You should rest assured any investor in this economic environment will spend plenty of time understanding Liverpool before committing. I would rather get it right than rush, and our banks and owners agree."

• Two versions of the minutes

There are two versions of the minutes on the 'Spirit of Shankly' official website - one agreed by Purslow and one that includes statements that Purslow denies making - with the supposedly 'un-edited' version containing suggestions by Purslow that Hicks and Gillett could no longer "hang on" to the club because of the banks' "unhappiness" at their ownership and disturbing news for Liverpool fans that there is "no Plan B".

Liverpool chase £100m investment before summer - Barclays Premier League - ESPN Soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=735857&sec=england&cc=4716)

[Xgenre]

I'm really sick with the whole American debacle. hopefully this will end soon. New owners, cash injection, new stadium, new players n Pool starts next season on a fresh note! :)

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[B]Liverpool chase £100m investment before summer

I was reading one of the comments on soccernet's forum. Someone commented... If Man U can raise £500m from the sale of bonds, why can't the 2 yankees raise £100m for liverpool in the same manner? If the 2 yankees really do that, then sigh...

[rahl]

I was reading one of the comments on soccernet's forum. Someone commented... If Man U can raise £500m from the sale of bonds, why can't the 2 yankees raise £100m for liverpool in the same manner? If the 2 yankees really do that, then sigh...

Why should anyone invest now when in a few months' time the Yanks could be forced out, by the bank or by fans? It's a catch-22 situation.

Frankly, I don't see the fans being able to force the Yanks out, at least not without things getting a lot worse. Rafa has used the crisis at the club to maneuver himself into a strong position but that ultimately ties him in with his bosses, and Rafa is still supported by the majority of the fans.

100m is not a great deal of money - look at the debt that has befallen us and this is not considering money for the stadium. It's firefighting and we aren't getting to the heart of the flames.

[Xgenre]

Why should anyone invest now when in a few months' time the Yanks could be forced out, by the bank or by fans? It's a catch-22 situation.

Frankly, I don't see the fans being able to force the Yanks out, at least not without things getting a lot worse. Rafa has used the crisis at the club to maneuver himself into a strong position but that ultimately ties him in with his bosses, and Rafa is still supported by the majority of the fans.

The Yanks have the money. They did sell off some of their American sports franchise. It's just that they don't wish to pump it into Liverpool, which is terrible. Buy a club and watch it struggle financially, I wonder what's the joy in that.

I think there is a strong wave of sentiment in the UK now against some of these foreign owners that buy a club and then pile it with debt. Look at how the Man U and Liverpool fans protest at the matches. I think the British hate the fact that they got screwed by Americans again. There is also the Portsmouth saga that really drives the British up the wall. I don't think we know how bad it is over there in England, since we are quite sheltered from the news in Singapore.

I'm a member of the Shareliverpool fc idea. Don't think the idea will work though. In the latest update, the email urges the British people to pressure their MPs (it's election time in UK) to create a legal framework to manage football clubs. I think the British fears that the soccer clubs will be mismanaged like how the American banks were pre-crisis time. If the clubs fail financially, I think the British people will pressure the government and ask why the Government didn't step in before things got worse.

I just hope our club doesn't suffer too much in the midst of this resolution. We really need money to buy some players.